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England squad managed to get this far despite Southgates efforts to crash out. under a semi competent manager this side should winning by 3-4 goal margins. doesn't matter what's in defence that front 4 + rice/Palmer/mainoo should be scoring from all parts of the pitch.
instead we have terrorism
It was fine until about the 60th minute and then the whole team had a collective realisation that they were supposed to be playing a lot worse than they currently were
Lol Im a critic of Southgate but can't people just enjoy a win to take us to the semifinal of a major tournament. Wasn't even a particularly boring match.
Critic of southgate? It may have been boring until this game but while he’s winning your criticism falls on deaf ears. I’d love it if England just pounded every team but I’ll also take a slow, plodding boring march to victory if that’s what it takes.
I love seeing the pure euphoria that has people embracing complete strangers out of sheer joy.
Guy at the front is hugging anyone and everyone, that's what footballs all about.
I had a season ticket at United, and my first game was the 4-3 with City when Michael Owen scored in the last minute. I hugged a total stranger. I was like: shit, will it be like this every week?
Yeah ? I've never seen those... I only tend to watch games at home or in pubs.
edit: Unless you mean like public viewings in market squares ? I've done this, but this looks better because it's enclosed imo.
Tour and Taxis in Brussels comes close to this one, but they are mostly in open air and more in cities.
But of you go to these you mainly go for the ambiance, a lot of people aren’t really interested in the game. Which can suck if you are.
Assuming this is the Croydon one I went there for one of the World Cup KO matches.
They offered out ponchos for people because of the beer that gets thrown around 😂
The country is very split on this. The type of person to go to one of these fanzone things generally will be very positive and desperate for England to do well. Loves having some beers and getting all hyped up and into the spirit of the occasion. Whilst I'm not crazy enough to go to one of these things I fall into this camp mostly. I enjoy being positive about at least one thing in this country (we don't have a lot to be positive about tbh) and plus this current team is extremely likable I think (if a bit frustrating lol).
But rest assured there will also be a lot of people watching at home dourly expecting them to lose and complaining out loud / in whatsapp groups / on the internet the whole way through about how boring it is and how they know better than the manager. There is definitely a contingent that I think deep down don't want to see them do well and enjoy being right when they don't.
I assume it's similar in other countries but don't know?
It’s the pure British experience.
One minute it’s completely hopeless and you’re all getting ready to send Southgate in shackles to Australia, just cause.
The next you’re absolutely certain you’ll win it all and prove your complete supremacy over all football, ignoring 60 years of evidence to the contrary.
I’m not saying you’re sane over there, but it sure is fun to watch!
In the place we watched a few lads were trying to get actual England chants going but the only one that really got everyone singing was "we're fucking shit".
If not arrogant why Ingliss fan say "it IS coming home"?
They should instead chant "I am really really hoping we do win this tournament, oh yes I do indeed!" This chant would be more precise and humble.
I'm hoping our next chant can involve some complex ball progression ideas we collectively would like to see adopted. If we get the right tune going I think we could cut out Gareth altogether
> You won, say whatever you want.
You make it sound like we are calling for a greater serbia or something. This is our song about how we always fuck up in tournaments lmao
Tears for heroes dressed in gray. No plans for finals day, stay in bed, drift away.
The opening bloody lyrics say we've already lost and we get called arrogant for it lmao
This is what I don't get. The whole song is a cock-eyed look at how England are a bit shit. It's not an egotistical thing to sing. It's ironic and fun.
Continentals fundamentally do not understand self depreciation, they are a serious people. This song to them does come across as England fans think they are going to win the Euros (which we are).
Other countries don’t indulge in self-deprecation, sarcasm and irony to the same self-flagellating level as the English - so it really does just look like blind arrogance to different cultures, and people who speak different languages, looking in from the outside.
It’s such an obviously tongue in cheek song too which makes the hate for it so much more hilarious
Literally every other nation gets these posts and everyone says how much they love it, then it’s England’s turn and everyone turns into sour cunts again, it’s hilarious
‘What’s that? A song by comedians that’s entirely about England being shite and joking how long it’s been since we won?
Absolute arrogance of them to have self deprecating jokes !!!🇮🇹🇮🇹🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸’
Ah yes, the arrogance of a song written by comedians about how shite England are.
> Tears for heroes dressed in grey.
> **No plans for final day.**
> Stay in bed, drift away
The main thing about it is the ‘it’s coming home’ song people think we are being really big headed but it’s literally only sung tongue in cheek in a self deprecating way.
After all, the ‘it’s coming home’ song was song about the euros being played in England in 96’ football coming home was meant to be the tournament not like winning the whole thing.
Yep, also the song is all about keeping an optimistic belief despite repeated pain.
It says, “England’s gonna throw it away, gonna blow it away” and “thirty years of hurt never stopped me dreaming”
This isn’t arrogance, it’s encouraging a dream.
Honestly that fucking song was the worst thing to happen to England 😂 Even if we aren’t in the final we sing it, then possibly lose again and we all go back to regularly scheduled gloom.
I swear that song is cursed.
Spain still looking the best although they have to get by the immovable and infrequently scoring France.
Who knows? France beat Spain on pens after 120' goalless draw and then do the same to England in the finals? It would be amazing if France win the whole thing without scoring a goal.
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By unpopular demand we persist, you will enjoy Southgate ball, you will waste 90mins watching it lol
This game didn't make me want to kill myself, it was a slight improvement.
Mild torture was enough today, definitely an improvement.
I love how that's where we are in this abusive relationship with Southgate's terrorball. Stockholm Syndrome has taken effect the further we get.
England squad managed to get this far despite Southgates efforts to crash out. under a semi competent manager this side should winning by 3-4 goal margins. doesn't matter what's in defence that front 4 + rice/Palmer/mainoo should be scoring from all parts of the pitch. instead we have terrorism
It was fine until about the 60th minute and then the whole team had a collective realisation that they were supposed to be playing a lot worse than they currently were
Speak for yourself
come on man it was better than slovakia or slovenia
Better than 70% of England games I've watched in the past 20 years tbf, we've always been a bit shit and boring.
Absolutely. Came out attacking for once and had the majority of possession.
That's a very low bar tbf
Our first shot on target came fifteen minutes earlier! It'll happen in the 65th next game and 50th in the final
Let's gooooo
swiss games have been great to watch this tournament. sad to see them leave.
>sad to see them leave. Not when its us winning!
No this was sad for everyone and football itself.
England Vs France final? Most boring match of all time
Just skip straight to the penalties, save us all the hassle
We've had to endure 240 minutes in the knockouts alone
360 it is then
120*
*120 mins plus stoppage time, thank you very much.
God everyone in reddit is so fucking miserable.
Literally! Anyone would think Southgate had skinned a cat in front of the entire stadium with the way he keeps getting shit on
Lol Im a critic of Southgate but can't people just enjoy a win to take us to the semifinal of a major tournament. Wasn't even a particularly boring match.
Critic of southgate? It may have been boring until this game but while he’s winning your criticism falls on deaf ears. I’d love it if England just pounded every team but I’ll also take a slow, plodding boring march to victory if that’s what it takes.
That would be more entertaining to watch tbh
This reminds a lot on my Croatia. 1-1 Japan and Brazil and also 1-1 Denmark and Russia.
Croatia Russia was 2:2 and penalties wasn’t it?
90 more like 120 of the Southgate masterclass
>you will waste 90mins watching it lol Not sticking around for the extra time and pens?
Who has more penalty trauma, the Netherlands or England
I mean I wouldn't say the penalties are a waste of time.
I love seeing the pure euphoria that has people embracing complete strangers out of sheer joy. Guy at the front is hugging anyone and everyone, that's what footballs all about.
I'm not sure I've ever experienced the type of joy that makes me want to take off my top and swing it around my head. Fair play to those who do.
Flair checks out for the past decade
I had a season ticket at United, and my first game was the 4-3 with City when Michael Owen scored in the last minute. I hugged a total stranger. I was like: shit, will it be like this every week?
Oh don’t worry it was like that for me at the cup final just gone i hug the stranger next me about 2 times and we didn’t speak a word to eachother
brother did you watch the fa cup final!
r/soccer public enemy number one
Whats funny is that most of the hate for England comes from people with PL flairs.
Damned Brits, they ruined Britain!
no chance theyre english lol
tbh i thought self loathing is an english past time?
it is but this subreddit is full of people who follow English clubs but absolutely hate the English.
You’ve just made an enemy for life!
It's almost as if they're mostly plastic fans from countries with shit leagues.
People who enjoy watching football aren't allowed here
Facts ,they list be seething them poor souls
I'd fucking love to watch a game in such a venue. Looks class.
You haven't seen the price of drinks there
I'm well aware. But given that after every goal the beer goes flying everywhere you've got a good chance to end up with a refilled cup.
you'd be waiting quite awhile to have your cup refilled watching us
But only once per game this tournament.
It's London and a day out
We have these in Belgium. We just don’t have the results to make people happy
Yeah ? I've never seen those... I only tend to watch games at home or in pubs. edit: Unless you mean like public viewings in market squares ? I've done this, but this looks better because it's enclosed imo.
Tour and Taxis in Brussels comes close to this one, but they are mostly in open air and more in cities. But of you go to these you mainly go for the ambiance, a lot of people aren’t really interested in the game. Which can suck if you are.
This is boxpark. A food court essentially. ( indoor food market) that has a Dj on and some evenings with fat tv for events like this .
Assuming this is the Croydon one I went there for one of the World Cup KO matches. They offered out ponchos for people because of the beer that gets thrown around 😂
Coming home status: it's
flights booked, suitcase packed, on the way to the airport…
Booked it, packed it, fucked off.
Get the vindaloo ready mate
I've got the bucket ready
Can I introduce you, please, to a lump of cheddar cheese
It’s called matar paneer.
Mum ✅ Dad ✅ Etc
the vinyl sphere is returning to its place of origin
Congratulations England fans you have suffered enough to earn this.
I might be biased, but I feel like Swiss fans have suffered enough as well.
We need more please
You dont really deserve it tbh
Stop being nice to us, you’re ruining the narrative
Most civil Chelsea/Barca fan interaction ever recorded.
Oh don’t worry, I DM’ed him calling him a POS
So, people genuinely like their NT. Online opinion makes it look like they want to lose for the 'I told you so' gimmick.
You can really tell who goes outside and who doesn't
>You can really tell who goes outside Normal people >who doesn't The overwhelming majority of redditors
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The country is very split on this. The type of person to go to one of these fanzone things generally will be very positive and desperate for England to do well. Loves having some beers and getting all hyped up and into the spirit of the occasion. Whilst I'm not crazy enough to go to one of these things I fall into this camp mostly. I enjoy being positive about at least one thing in this country (we don't have a lot to be positive about tbh) and plus this current team is extremely likable I think (if a bit frustrating lol). But rest assured there will also be a lot of people watching at home dourly expecting them to lose and complaining out loud / in whatsapp groups / on the internet the whole way through about how boring it is and how they know better than the manager. There is definitely a contingent that I think deep down don't want to see them do well and enjoy being right when they don't. I assume it's similar in other countries but don't know?
the funniest thing about falling ass backwards all the way into the final is the anguish it causes everyone on this subreddit. every single game
The people in the 'Germany going Home' thread saying England will regret this against Switzerland must be fuming
They'll be the ones saying Switzerland were never good in the first place
England is going to win this thing by individual brilliance, while being a shit team
https://imgur.com/fI7u4Zo
Better than France winning it with 0 goals in the whole competition although that would be funny
England 0 - 1 France (88' Walker OG)
I'll take it any day of the fucking week
A win is a win
It’s the pure British experience. One minute it’s completely hopeless and you’re all getting ready to send Southgate in shackles to Australia, just cause. The next you’re absolutely certain you’ll win it all and prove your complete supremacy over all football, ignoring 60 years of evidence to the contrary. I’m not saying you’re sane over there, but it sure is fun to watch!
>It’s the pure British experience It's definitely English specific.
I can find the doom and gloom elsewhere, it’s the instant switch to ‘coming home’ that is pure magic.
Yeah, because everyone is too shite to expect anything close to a SF, save individual wonder-runs, like Wales that one time.
In the place we watched a few lads were trying to get actual England chants going but the only one that really got everyone singing was "we're fucking shit".
If not arrogant why Ingliss fan say "it IS coming home"? They should instead chant "I am really really hoping we do win this tournament, oh yes I do indeed!" This chant would be more precise and humble.
I'm hoping our next chant can involve some complex ball progression ideas we collectively would like to see adopted. If we get the right tune going I think we could cut out Gareth altogether
England lives inside r/soccer rent free
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indeed. france, holland, and spain just sat in their chairs and said "jolly good show" and thats it.
Fair, I don't want to be the celebration police. You won, say whatever you want.
> You won, say whatever you want. You make it sound like we are calling for a greater serbia or something. This is our song about how we always fuck up in tournaments lmao
The words that sum up what this song actually means isn’t it’s coming home, it’s > Thirty years of hurt, never stopped us dreaming
everyone seems to know the score, they've seen it all before, they just know, they're so sure, that Englands gonna throw it away gonna blow it away
This is when redditors read these lines and instantly become Modric clones screaming ‘arrogance’
Tears for heroes dressed in gray. No plans for finals day, stay in bed, drift away. The opening bloody lyrics say we've already lost and we get called arrogant for it lmao
We should probably update the years cus it's been nearly 60 now
Fifty eight years doesn’t really roll off the tongue as well
its okay, itll be 2 years of hurt for the next time its sang in 2026
The “it’s coming home” bit was the fact it was the first international tournament back in England since 1966
This is what I don't get. The whole song is a cock-eyed look at how England are a bit shit. It's not an egotistical thing to sing. It's ironic and fun.
if they havent got it by now they never will lol
It has to be explained to clueless twats every fucking tourney.
Continentals fundamentally do not understand self depreciation, they are a serious people. This song to them does come across as England fans think they are going to win the Euros (which we are).
They didn't say /s at the end of it so redditors couldn't understand that it was sarcastic
Other countries don’t indulge in self-deprecation, sarcasm and irony to the same self-flagellating level as the English - so it really does just look like blind arrogance to different cultures, and people who speak different languages, looking in from the outside. It’s such an obviously tongue in cheek song too which makes the hate for it so much more hilarious
It’s context dependent. As we’ve made the semis it’s less ironic. And who cares? Let’s have a good time
The amount of people I have to explain that to about the song in Portugal is crazy
You are doing the lords work Joao
I whistle this song constantly during the euros and the world cup, my mind just goes there, I can't help it, but thankfully people do not ask me why!
My man!
This sub staunchly refuses to acknowledge the actual meaning of that song, and instead choose the arrogance narrative as it lets them hate us lol
Literally crazy to me how people never understand the song. The whole point is that it never comes home but it always is.
If you don't win this time round then at the World Cup in 2 years time that song will be smack in the middle of present day and your victory in 1966.
Not a problem cos we're winning both
>say whatever you want. I got my first erection age 12, looking at bras on the mannequins in Marks & Spencer.
is this Boxpark in Croydongrad?
Aye.
Somebody needs to let them know reddit says we can't enjoy winning because we've had a lucky draw. I'm sure they'll be more modest next time.
The English are still in it my god
We’re as surprised as you are.
More so, in fact.
Inject this clip right into my fucking veins
How arrogant 😡
Literally every other nation gets these posts and everyone says how much they love it, then it’s England’s turn and everyone turns into sour cunts again, it’s hilarious
It's the anti-english police, they're everywhere lol
England fans celebrating a win. r/soccer gonna gave a stroke at this one.
‘What’s that? A song by comedians that’s entirely about England being shite and joking how long it’s been since we won? Absolute arrogance of them to have self deprecating jokes !!!🇮🇹🇮🇹🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸’
No Fun League
Ah yes, the arrogance of a song written by comedians about how shite England are. > Tears for heroes dressed in grey. > **No plans for final day.** > Stay in bed, drift away
WE STILL BELIEVE
You are England, you are NOT allowed to believe! (That privilege is reserved for everyone else).
I didn't see a single person congratulating Switzerland for a good match and apologising for beating them, a disgusting lack of class.
I bet the cunts didn’t even stay behind and clean the dressing room or send a card. Classless wankers
how dare they, most disrespectful fans in the world
look at them having fun its so arrogant!
How dare they celebrate winning
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guys guys guys ....has anyone made a really really unfunny comment about Southgate being a terrorist yet?!?
I always sort these threads by controversial. Some of you people are such fucking dipshits 🤣
What its all about😍
If any other country celebrated like this, it would be fine. But for some reason England aren't allowed?
This thread is like a hundred people making this comment and nobody actually complaining about the England fans.
It started...
How dare they celebrate
The main thing about it is the ‘it’s coming home’ song people think we are being really big headed but it’s literally only sung tongue in cheek in a self deprecating way. After all, the ‘it’s coming home’ song was song about the euros being played in England in 96’ football coming home was meant to be the tournament not like winning the whole thing.
Yep, also the song is all about keeping an optimistic belief despite repeated pain. It says, “England’s gonna throw it away, gonna blow it away” and “thirty years of hurt never stopped me dreaming” This isn’t arrogance, it’s encouraging a dream.
🏴 🍑🧨Sir Gareth's army bringing it home for King and country. 🏴 🍑🧨
Netherlands and Spain?
Jinx it.
Me and me Mum and me Dad and me Gran...
It’s what we deserve after playing well for approximately the first 30 minutes of the tournament against Serbia
Higher the climb, steeper the fall
Tale as old as time. England reaches the semifinal, loses on penalties.
Incoming angry comments
They can't keep getting away with this
The reaction to this from non-English people is going to completely normal as usual I expect
They won so whatever
They are getting murdered by Spain
I fucking love football
Terrorism coming home? Get the air defence ready lads
Honestly that fucking song was the worst thing to happen to England 😂 Even if we aren’t in the final we sing it, then possibly lose again and we all go back to regularly scheduled gloom. I swear that song is cursed.
I personally think it's fucking hilarious as it creates so much meme potential
Welp. There goes the curse again.
😂🤦🏻♂️
Is this Croydon or Wembley
I'm getting déjà vu, no idea why
England is playing like 💩. I can believe so many stars and they can’t play together; just terrible.
Spain still looking the best although they have to get by the immovable and infrequently scoring France. Who knows? France beat Spain on pens after 120' goalless draw and then do the same to England in the finals? It would be amazing if France win the whole thing without scoring a goal.
Havent come home so long, practically homeless now
That means its not coming home again!
Not if Southgate has something to say about it
Against Spain? No chance
Pure limbs
We will be gone at the semis. Awful watch. I feel bad for the neutrals
It would be very funny for England to win it all with the football they've been playing. 2016 Portugal on steroids.
White smoke ruined a potential meme template