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Seems crazy to end a long college season and jump right into another. High level athletes still need that off season rest period to recover. Hope she stays healthy and kicks some ass.
When it’s not a league with huge league min contracts many athletes compete in multiple different leagues year round. They don’t always have the luxury of a long offseason
Baseball. Minor league rookie baseball was $4,800 (minimum) a year in 2023. It's now $19,800 a year. AAA was $17,500 (minimum) in 2023. It's now $45,800 a year.
I know the team will put them up in hotels or help them find people that are willing to host the player for the season and then they will all go play in another league in the offseason but yeah it’s way more for the love of the game and the dream than for the money
They’re more like the top .001%, but it doesn’t matter.
How much does a top .001% basoonist make? Or a top .001% bridge player?
A lot of people are really really good at something that doesn’t pay very well.
I think you’d be surprised at how much a top .001 basoonist or bridge player would make. I’m more familiar with bridge, don’t know exact numbers but I would think 500K/yr is not unreasonable for the best pros. Granted they’re working year round instead of 4-6 months
If you took the pay of the rest of the 99% and gave it to the top 1% (which would make it analogous to professional sports), they would absolutely be comparable lol.
A better comparison would be university / college professors or ones with lots of research under their belt since there more of the 0.01% of their field
Sure but wnba players aren't anywhere near the top 1% for professional basketball players. Ncaa d1 players are far better and aren't earning a wage for it.
Being off isn’t the right word but staying at home base and training vs training all the time while also having to play competitive games while also having to travel non stop across the country is not the same
I make that with no post secondary degree while sitting on my ass most of the day. They need to be paid more. No way I worked as hard as these girls have, I should not be making a comparable wage to them
They bounce balls around a court trying to throw them inside a circle while 40 people watch in between scrolling shorts on their phones. If you value your own contributions less than that, then fair enough i guess
I like when ppl say it's not fair the men get paid more. The wnba stands are empty. Hopefully CC will give some boost to attendance and the entire roster of all the teams will benefit from it.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mollybohannon/2024/05/02/wnba-ticket-sales-up-93-compared-to-last-year-report-says/
Sales across the WNBA are up 93% compared to this time last year, StubHub said in its report, citing “a growth trend that we’ve seen for the sport across the last few years.”
Sales for the defending champions, the Las Vegas Aces—which also drafted Iowa standout Kate Martin—have increased about 190% compared to this time last year, sales for the New York Liberty have increased about 30% and sales for the Fever, Clark’s team, have increased more than 13x, StubHub said.
The Chicago Sky, which drafted LSU’s Angel Reese and South Carolina’s Kamilla Cardoso, has seen its sales triple last season’s, StubHub said.
It pisses off so much when they cry about people making noise while they are trying to hit the ball. Cry baby ass pussies for sure. If Randy Johnson can throw a ball 100 miles an hour and then Sammy Sosa can hit that same ball 600 feet literally outside the stadium while 50,000 people are screaming then surely, Tiger can play putt putt with some noise in the background. I'll die on this fuck golf hill with you dawg.
She's an incredible athlete, good teammate, and seems like a solid human being. I hope the media continues to focus on her and bring more attention to the WNBA. She has a good attitude about being in the spotlight and I hope that doesn't change with the extra pressure being a top level star in that league.
She definitely seems like that type of person who can change things for the better like Tiger Woods did for golf and have a real impact on kid's dreams. Seriously, who ever expected to read an article about a preseason WNBA game? She deserves respect for having that ability.
She has major pull. The pirated streaming site I use had the game listed and most people were watching it instead of the cavs/magic game yesterday. If that’s not star power idk what is
Don't think they meant it as a comparison of talent, but of the ability to change the perception of a sport/league. I wasn't around to see him come onto the golf scene, but what I've heard is that Tiger shook golf from being an unimaginably boring spectator sport to something with a compelling angle to it that kept people actually watching rather than having it on in the background.
In case you want to read it, it hate all the garbage ads (ps your iPhone hast this ability. It’s called “reader mode”). :)
Caitlin Clark completes her only objective for first WNBA preseason game with Indiana Fever
WNBA rookie Caitlin Clark laid out her objective for her first-ever start with the Indiana Fever and seemed to meet what she set out to achieve on Friday night in the preseason
Caitlin Clark attempted step-back 3-pointers in her WNBA preseason opener with the Indiana Fever.
Caitlin Clark wanted one thing Friday night: to look and feel like herself. She certainly seemed to live up that expectation in her first Indiana Fever appearance, scoring 21 points in 28 minutes against the Dallas Wings in a 79-76 WNBA preseason defeat.
“I don’t think it’s any statistical measurements, it’s just a feel as a basketball player,” Clark said before the contest. “Did you go out there, did you work hard, did you give it every single thing you had? I want to step on the court, then I want to leave the court tonight feeling that I played like Caitlin Clark, I played like I have my entire life.”
As any shooter would attest, knocking down a couple of early shots does wonders for one's overall confidence. Clark, one of the best women's basketball snipers on the planet, hit three of her first four 3-pointers to quickly settle in. She lived up to the moment.
"We played really hard," Clark said after the game. "Really great atmosphere for women's basketball. ... The pace was amazing, that's fun basketball that people like to watch. Overall, definitely what I expected."
Clark's first triple came several steps behind the arc - a distance she often released from during her decorated NCAA career at Iowa. The Hawkeyes put a decal on their home court during the final stretch of their season to show the wild distance of Clark's record-setting 3-pointer that put her past Kelsey Plum in the history books.
She'd enjoyed practicing with Fever teammates over the past week but looked forward to Friday night's showdown with the Wings.
“Obviously, there’s so much you can do in practice, but you become very familiar with what other teams are doing,” she said via the Indy Star. “They’ll do some stuff that we don’t do. Coming into this game, you can scout and know some things of what they’re going to do, but they’re going to do some new stuff, they’re going to do some different stuff, but I think more than anything, coaches said, ‘Don’t be surprised by anything they do.’”
The main difficulty Clark faced Friday night was foul trouble. She picked up a fourth whistle in the third quarter, limiting her time on the court in the second half. The 22-year-old might also be slightly disappointed with the five turnovers she committed.
However, giveaways have always been something her coaches have lived with to an extent, as the freedom she plays with also enables spectacular plays that demoralize opponents. The fact she even tried to whip cross-court passes and take step-back jumpers in her first game can be taken as a symbol of fearlessness.
Clark swished a 3-pointer with about five minutes left in regulation, her fifth make of the contest. She cooly sunk two free throws with one minute to go. After Clark had a shot swatted with 26.7 seconds left, though, Dallas standout Arike Ogunbowale drilled a game-winner at the other end.
Clark attempted a heave at the buzzer that fell short but still finished 5-of-13 from beyond the arc and 6-of-15 overall.
I know its just pre-season, but this should start putting an end to "Wait to you get to the bigs". NBA has been saying that about College players every damn March of my life, yet they never seem to be correct. The play player has Pro talent, they gonna show it, and leave it on the floor.
I hope the same for all of the women who wowed us, and kept us coming back to the TV, this and last year into some of the greatest tourney games in history.
Women's college players staying for 4 years probably helps them also helps that Clark is a generational talent. Most players do struggle their first year or sometimes longer, the gap between average college and pro talent is huge.
I mean G league players average like 30 and 15 and barely sniff a roster spot in the NBA. Theres levels to it so Im not sure preseason is a good measuring stick.
Sure but again, you already said it, it’s just preseason. She was playing against a lot of people who won’t even make the roster
I have no doubt she will do the same thing in the regular season but it shouldn’t be ignored that this was a preseason game, kinda like NBA summer league almost lol
I get it, i'm overly excited for her, Reese and a bunch of others. There has been some amazing college womens basket ball, and as a larger group, they could help advance the sport.
I don’t know if this headline is just the soft bigotry of low expectations or just that she’s so under the microscope right now that we’re gonna start seeing the constitution of her morning BM in the headlines as well. She could have the most coveted deuces since Tom Brady’s.
Sorry your word soup wasn't clear. Can you expound on how that being her only objective this preseason is the soft bigotry of low expectations? Because now that I'm rereading your pointless comment it seems like you just wanted to shoehorn that phrase into your statement.
Did it feel good using your pointless-phrase-of-the-day?
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The objective was to "look and feel like herself". Saved you a click and a boring article.
You are doing lords work, and I thank you
Bruh, you just cost the WNBA like forty clicks. How is the game supposed to grow!
You're not going to like the answer...
Electrolytes
*Okay. Hey, a couple of us guys were wonderin', uh if we'd go family-style on her.* Edit: to be clear, not on Caitlin
It’s what Caitlin craves
All this account does is post articles from The Mirror. Wtf
Thank you for your service.
My objective is to have fun and make friends :)
Could a goal get anymore female.
Seems crazy to end a long college season and jump right into another. High level athletes still need that off season rest period to recover. Hope she stays healthy and kicks some ass.
When it’s not a league with huge league min contracts many athletes compete in multiple different leagues year round. They don’t always have the luxury of a long offseason
Yeah, that nike deal really helped her out in that department. 70k a year for a traveling professional althlete is rough.
Baseball. Minor league rookie baseball was $4,800 (minimum) a year in 2023. It's now $19,800 a year. AAA was $17,500 (minimum) in 2023. It's now $45,800 a year.
Yeah my local ball club is independent league ball and I think they make max 15k a season
Jesus you could easily spend that whole $15k on recovery and shit. Goddam
I know the team will put them up in hotels or help them find people that are willing to host the player for the season and then they will all go play in another league in the offseason but yeah it’s way more for the love of the game and the dream than for the money
Jfc no kidding. I assumed AAA was making at least $40-60k. Never thought it was this low
70k in 4 months isnt bad money though. Most people I know would be happy to make that
Most people also aren’t at the top 1% of what they do
And most people work in industries that make a TON more revenue than 60 mil a year
60M is kind of pitiful.
Well it’s not actually $60mm, it’s $200mm. Not huge by professional sports standards but still a decent amount of money
Also $200M revenue does not equal $200M profit, which those other industries would never survive with decades of unprofitability.
Not to mention with that revenue, the league is still losing money.
They’re more like the top .001%, but it doesn’t matter. How much does a top .001% basoonist make? Or a top .001% bridge player? A lot of people are really really good at something that doesn’t pay very well.
I think you’d be surprised at how much a top .001 basoonist or bridge player would make. I’m more familiar with bridge, don’t know exact numbers but I would think 500K/yr is not unreasonable for the best pros. Granted they’re working year round instead of 4-6 months
Doesn’t matter how good you are if nobody is buying.
Tell that to classroom educators who work more than double that for less pay in a career that actually matters.
Well they’re probably not in the top 1% of what they do either
1% of them are and they still don’t paid as a reflection of their skill.
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He said classroom educators, which when including non college professors I can promise you is not 110k.
If you took the pay of the rest of the 99% and gave it to the top 1% (which would make it analogous to professional sports), they would absolutely be comparable lol.
A better comparison would be university / college professors or ones with lots of research under their belt since there more of the 0.01% of their field
In any profession that encompasses 1% or less of the population, they are.
Sure but wnba players aren't anywhere near the top 1% for professional basketball players. Ncaa d1 players are far better and aren't earning a wage for it.
Where do you think alot of wnba players come from?
D1 men's players are going to be that 1 percent.
That’s not an apples to apples comparison. WNBA players are in the 1% of what they do which is play women’s basketball.
Well now you're just subdividing it into a specific part of what they do. They play basketball. And they're far from the best in the world at it.
It’s more like .001%
this is such a clown take. she isn't "off" for 8 months. She's literally working year round on her game otherwise she wouldn't be a professional.
Being off isn’t the right word but staying at home base and training vs training all the time while also having to play competitive games while also having to travel non stop across the country is not the same
I think you severely underestimate how much work it is to be a professional.
What are you supposed to do for the other 8 months though?
It very much depends on where you live.
I make that with no post secondary degree while sitting on my ass most of the day. They need to be paid more. No way I worked as hard as these girls have, I should not be making a comparable wage to them
Something tells me that what you do provides more value which is why people are willing to pay you for it
Honestly, not really. I’m just unionized
They bounce balls around a court trying to throw them inside a circle while 40 people watch in between scrolling shorts on their phones. If you value your own contributions less than that, then fair enough i guess
Considering that most people make way less than this and she plays a game. I don’t think that sounds rough at all. It isn’t even year around.
I’m sorry what? Her wnba salary is $70k a year? Damn might as well go work at the local panda express
The league loses money and is subsidized by the NBA. That’s the only reason they even get paid at all.
I like when ppl say it's not fair the men get paid more. The wnba stands are empty. Hopefully CC will give some boost to attendance and the entire roster of all the teams will benefit from it.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mollybohannon/2024/05/02/wnba-ticket-sales-up-93-compared-to-last-year-report-says/ Sales across the WNBA are up 93% compared to this time last year, StubHub said in its report, citing “a growth trend that we’ve seen for the sport across the last few years.” Sales for the defending champions, the Las Vegas Aces—which also drafted Iowa standout Kate Martin—have increased about 190% compared to this time last year, sales for the New York Liberty have increased about 30% and sales for the Fever, Clark’s team, have increased more than 13x, StubHub said. The Chicago Sky, which drafted LSU’s Angel Reese and South Carolina’s Kamilla Cardoso, has seen its sales triple last season’s, StubHub said.
Sweet!
Her salary is a small part of her actual income. However, the WNBA job is essential. Without her WNBA gig, she won’t be making the big bucks
"I’m sorry what? Her wnba salary is $70k a year? Damn might as well go work at the local panda express" Do what you love or do what you hate.
Even a lot of mlb guys play winter ball
baseball is for golf players who can run
and reddit is for idiots who can write
And for pussy golfers who think that counts as a sport
It pisses off so much when they cry about people making noise while they are trying to hit the ball. Cry baby ass pussies for sure. If Randy Johnson can throw a ball 100 miles an hour and then Sammy Sosa can hit that same ball 600 feet literally outside the stadium while 50,000 people are screaming then surely, Tiger can play putt putt with some noise in the background. I'll die on this fuck golf hill with you dawg.
Brittney Griner…
Pro women's basketball players rarely get much of a break because in addition to the W they often play overseas.
An overseas team once paid Diana Taurasi more to *not* play during a WNBA season
It will be the best practice she can pick up
Is this sarcastic? She’s got the most media attention ever and is getting paid. If she held off I’d bet she’d lose millions of dollars.
She's an incredible athlete, good teammate, and seems like a solid human being. I hope the media continues to focus on her and bring more attention to the WNBA. She has a good attitude about being in the spotlight and I hope that doesn't change with the extra pressure being a top level star in that league. She definitely seems like that type of person who can change things for the better like Tiger Woods did for golf and have a real impact on kid's dreams. Seriously, who ever expected to read an article about a preseason WNBA game? She deserves respect for having that ability.
She has major pull. The pirated streaming site I use had the game listed and most people were watching it instead of the cavs/magic game yesterday. If that’s not star power idk what is
Lol i can’t tell if this is sarcasm or not.
Did you just compare her to one of the greatest golfers of all time?
Don't think they meant it as a comparison of talent, but of the ability to change the perception of a sport/league. I wasn't around to see him come onto the golf scene, but what I've heard is that Tiger shook golf from being an unimaginably boring spectator sport to something with a compelling angle to it that kept people actually watching rather than having it on in the background.
Without hesitation.
Bold move.
These aren’t official games yet either, who knows what she will score in her nba debut but the eyes will be on
Good on her for not putting undue pressure on herself!
In case you want to read it, it hate all the garbage ads (ps your iPhone hast this ability. It’s called “reader mode”). :) Caitlin Clark completes her only objective for first WNBA preseason game with Indiana Fever WNBA rookie Caitlin Clark laid out her objective for her first-ever start with the Indiana Fever and seemed to meet what she set out to achieve on Friday night in the preseason Caitlin Clark attempted step-back 3-pointers in her WNBA preseason opener with the Indiana Fever. Caitlin Clark wanted one thing Friday night: to look and feel like herself. She certainly seemed to live up that expectation in her first Indiana Fever appearance, scoring 21 points in 28 minutes against the Dallas Wings in a 79-76 WNBA preseason defeat. “I don’t think it’s any statistical measurements, it’s just a feel as a basketball player,” Clark said before the contest. “Did you go out there, did you work hard, did you give it every single thing you had? I want to step on the court, then I want to leave the court tonight feeling that I played like Caitlin Clark, I played like I have my entire life.” As any shooter would attest, knocking down a couple of early shots does wonders for one's overall confidence. Clark, one of the best women's basketball snipers on the planet, hit three of her first four 3-pointers to quickly settle in. She lived up to the moment. "We played really hard," Clark said after the game. "Really great atmosphere for women's basketball. ... The pace was amazing, that's fun basketball that people like to watch. Overall, definitely what I expected." Clark's first triple came several steps behind the arc - a distance she often released from during her decorated NCAA career at Iowa. The Hawkeyes put a decal on their home court during the final stretch of their season to show the wild distance of Clark's record-setting 3-pointer that put her past Kelsey Plum in the history books. She'd enjoyed practicing with Fever teammates over the past week but looked forward to Friday night's showdown with the Wings. “Obviously, there’s so much you can do in practice, but you become very familiar with what other teams are doing,” she said via the Indy Star. “They’ll do some stuff that we don’t do. Coming into this game, you can scout and know some things of what they’re going to do, but they’re going to do some new stuff, they’re going to do some different stuff, but I think more than anything, coaches said, ‘Don’t be surprised by anything they do.’” The main difficulty Clark faced Friday night was foul trouble. She picked up a fourth whistle in the third quarter, limiting her time on the court in the second half. The 22-year-old might also be slightly disappointed with the five turnovers she committed. However, giveaways have always been something her coaches have lived with to an extent, as the freedom she plays with also enables spectacular plays that demoralize opponents. The fact she even tried to whip cross-court passes and take step-back jumpers in her first game can be taken as a symbol of fearlessness. Clark swished a 3-pointer with about five minutes left in regulation, her fifth make of the contest. She cooly sunk two free throws with one minute to go. After Clark had a shot swatted with 26.7 seconds left, though, Dallas standout Arike Ogunbowale drilled a game-winner at the other end. Clark attempted a heave at the buzzer that fell short but still finished 5-of-13 from beyond the arc and 6-of-15 overall.
I know its just pre-season, but this should start putting an end to "Wait to you get to the bigs". NBA has been saying that about College players every damn March of my life, yet they never seem to be correct. The play player has Pro talent, they gonna show it, and leave it on the floor. I hope the same for all of the women who wowed us, and kept us coming back to the TV, this and last year into some of the greatest tourney games in history.
Women's college players staying for 4 years probably helps them also helps that Clark is a generational talent. Most players do struggle their first year or sometimes longer, the gap between average college and pro talent is huge.
I mean G league players average like 30 and 15 and barely sniff a roster spot in the NBA. Theres levels to it so Im not sure preseason is a good measuring stick.
Sure but again, you already said it, it’s just preseason. She was playing against a lot of people who won’t even make the roster I have no doubt she will do the same thing in the regular season but it shouldn’t be ignored that this was a preseason game, kinda like NBA summer league almost lol
I get it, i'm overly excited for her, Reese and a bunch of others. There has been some amazing college womens basket ball, and as a larger group, they could help advance the sport.
Skimmed through article. She wanted to feel herself before the game and apparently she did
5 of 13 from beyond the arc have your teammates floppin like a mf in 2K, bruh.
38% from 3 not bad for her first run
and they were deep 3s, like 3-5ft behind the line
I don’t know if this headline is just the soft bigotry of low expectations or just that she’s so under the microscope right now that we’re gonna start seeing the constitution of her morning BM in the headlines as well. She could have the most coveted deuces since Tom Brady’s.
The Mirror is a crap news organization, so not shocking if their headline is word salad
Huh? Scoring 21 is a low expectation?
Where in the **headline** does it say anything about scoring 21? How about you read before you react?
Sorry your word soup wasn't clear. Can you expound on how that being her only objective this preseason is the soft bigotry of low expectations? Because now that I'm rereading your pointless comment it seems like you just wanted to shoehorn that phrase into your statement. Did it feel good using your pointless-phrase-of-the-day?