History always sleeps on Pau. They act like because kobe won the first three with Shaq and the next two without that he won the next two by himself. Pau was incredible, and they had a great set of elevated role players like Odom, Bynum, and Fischer. Oh and a top 5 all time coach.
Nah, Nash, Kobe, Dwight at least had the consideration that your three stars had to be able to do different things. Point guard, Forward, Center.
But here we have ball shooting guard, shooting guard, forward, all of which do the same thing and take dumb shots.
Has to be unless I’m forgetting of another failed big 3.
The original Nets big 3 were all old and washed
The most recent Nets big 3 wipes the floor with our mid 3.
>when all three of them played
And getting Kyrie to play was the hardest shit of all. That's why Harden gave up and KD lost another year of his god-like abilities.
It seems like KD and Book are cut from the same cloth. They love to ball, but don't necessarily seem to have that competitive fire that drives some of the greats. I think Paul had that and was able to get it out of Book, but with KD they are just "chilling" playing their game without much fire or intensity. It's especially evident when the young scrappy teams come to play and it throws them completely off.
We messed up getting another 2 guard. Beal is fucking awesome but these guys cannot get the best out of each other. Unless it’s just all on Vogel. If we got the KP and jrue holiday package 😭
Ideally, you don't need a 1 if you have an offensive scheme that the team can follow. Problem is, it doesn't seem like this team has that offensive scheme.
What's happening with the Suns is not about the BIG 3, it's about the fact that you can't build a bench on veterans but you have to have a mix of players and more importantly bring in young promising players and give them space. Im sick we have Nassir and he plays only in garbage time…
They suck together if we all want to admit the truth. The only one worthy is Durant who plays both sides of the floor. Booker is a bg zero when he has height guarding him and Beal is just not that guy.
Yup. Face it ya’ll, suns best chance of all time was against bucks, no one was gonna beat the bulls. Suns are cursed.
They’ve been bad all year, and their future is awful. I would literally trade all of them to get draft picks back and turn towards future.
Up 2-0 and choked the finals away. Game 5 at home choked that away. Game 6 was tight in the 4th. That’s going to haunt the suns for a long long time. Then being the 1 seed the year after just to slapped I’m games 6 and 7 by the mavs ain’t a curse the players aren’t built like that they fold under pressure time and time again.
lol allen got hurt that's the real worry here. iso play doesn't cut it any more in this league and shootings harder with all the physicality they're allowing, to make up for all the shooting that's taken over the league. On top of that give minny credit they have a great team on the defensive end. On the suns to figure out how to make the 2nd and third pass and have it end up in an open big 3 member. Different ball game at home and for the love of god play bol bol, his length alone is better than EG.
It would be nice to make A pass without turning it over or passing it at the last second to a defensively draped teammate. There’s zero picks or attempts at getting each other open off the ball.
Beside the warriors and heat every other super teams has failed. And heat at least made the finals their first year before losing and warriors won back to back their first 2 years
My concern is that I've seen very little improvement. I gave them the benefit of the doubt with all the injuries, but they have had quite a few games at "full strength" now and things look pretty much the same.
I think that's disingenuous. They were like the 11th seed on Christmas day following the embarrassing Mavs loss, facing the hardest SoS for the rest of the season and they played well above .500 ball and got the 6 seed.
They had limited time with Brad KD and Book together. Our last 10 games we went 7-3 against virtually all playoff competition.
KD & Beal only played 41 games together this year, idk how many of those book was in too but that's literally less than half a season at "full strength"
People here saying “Kobe Nash Dwight” clearly don’t know what happened. Kobe tore his Achilles and didn’t play in the playoffs but willed the team there anyways when Dwight and Nash was injured in the regular season. We have all 3 healthy currently in the playoffs, it would be embarrassing if we got swept
Who would have thought clearing the roster and keeping two players and adding another max player SG when we already had a max player SG and not bringing in an elite PG and also adding a brand new coach to a bunch of new players would have some issues?
These guys have no clue what their roles are or how they fit in together. That's due to coaching and time playing together.
Not yet… won’t be the first time young team drops 2-0 lead vs. veteran team (kings last year the freshest example)… and there’s still an outside chance for next year… strangest things happened (not that I have much, if any, faith in either scenario, but just saying).. so, on the way there I would say
Beal was never going to be "big" anything. Trading for his ridiculous and redundant contract instead of doing everything to get a real PG + better defenders was the absurd thing, this shit is nowhere near "most disappointing" when it's not a surprise to anyone but the most committed homers.
First it was that abomination of IT, Tragic, and Bledsoe. Now it's Book, Beal, and KD.
I never want to hear about a "3" when it comes to their roster construction ever again.
One of my all time favorite WINNING team was that of Isaiah Thomas, Joe Dumas, John Salley, Dennis Rodman and Bill Laimbeer. I'm talking back to back championships with not one Superstar among them. They were a no nonsense "team first" winning attitude. The prime Detroit Pistons.
Although Chauncy Billups, Ben Wallace and Rip Hamilton were pretty damn good too with back to back championships 👍
I think the 2013-14 Nets big 3 was the worst big 3 of all time. The age of the super team is over and the Suns are late to the party. No point in blowing up the team since Brooklyn has our draft picks.
Until we’re eliminated from playoffs, posts like this are so unnecessary and irrelevant. You’re just letting your emotions take over before you can make a conclusive judgement. I understand from the naked eye it’s looked underwhelming but I urge you all to save your takes for the post season, if In 2-3 games we’re in Cancun then go all out but it’s not worth it until then. We’ve all go high anxiety running so I think it’s important to hold tight until we can be conclusive. Of all the fans in recent years, we know that a 2-0 lead means virtually nothing.
the title of the post is “disappointing” the fact that they were great together and just couldn’t get on the court at the same time just adds to the disappointment
We are the Nash-Kobe-Dwight lakers. That’s who we are. It’s time to accept it.
They didn’t mortgage their future though when building that team.
The fanbase also had some championships to lessen the blow.
They gave up a fucking boatload for Nash.
You give up 2 Firsts and 2 Seconds every time for Nash. No one could've foreseen he was literally one injury from getting washed.
The lakers are perpetually mortgaging their future to win now and it works
Cause every free agent wants to sign with them. The Heat are the only ones that rival them in free agency, and even that’s not that close.
Yes for sure living in LA is a huge factor but so is playing with superstars and LA always has 1.
They did, those picks for Nash were super valuable, one of them even became Mikal Bridges lol
And then we threw Bridges away....so dumb
Oh they absolutely did
Yes they did, but it was protected picks and they were so ass the following years they kept the picks
That was a big 4. They had Pau too!
History always sleeps on Pau. They act like because kobe won the first three with Shaq and the next two without that he won the next two by himself. Pau was incredible, and they had a great set of elevated role players like Odom, Bynum, and Fischer. Oh and a top 5 all time coach.
Not that bad
Ah yes, that was very disappointing
Nah, Nash, Kobe, Dwight at least had the consideration that your three stars had to be able to do different things. Point guard, Forward, Center. But here we have ball shooting guard, shooting guard, forward, all of which do the same thing and take dumb shots.
Has to be unless I’m forgetting of another failed big 3. The original Nets big 3 were all old and washed The most recent Nets big 3 wipes the floor with our mid 3.
The OG nets big three would be the closest comparison. The Nets gave up a haul for Pierce and KG. Not too far off of our current status.
Durant Kyrie Harden worse
Not even close that team was ridiculous when all three of them played
Yeah, but they didn't accomplish shit either
One kyrie injury from making the finals tho, which is way more than the mid 3 has done
You say that as if their game translated to that, lol. They were dominant as all hell when they actually got to play together.
>when all three of them played And getting Kyrie to play was the hardest shit of all. That's why Harden gave up and KD lost another year of his god-like abilities.
The worst big three was to cut the lead to 42
I see what u did here.
Dwight nash kobe was easily more disappointing imo. There was plenty of hesitation surrounding our big 3 prior to the season.
Having current Bradley Beal doesn’t make it a big 3
WE ARE SOFT WITH NO FIRE OR TOUGHNESS!!!!!
It seems like KD and Book are cut from the same cloth. They love to ball, but don't necessarily seem to have that competitive fire that drives some of the greats. I think Paul had that and was able to get it out of Book, but with KD they are just "chilling" playing their game without much fire or intensity. It's especially evident when the young scrappy teams come to play and it throws them completely off.
I think I agree
..we play tough...sometimes...we are just a cumbobulated mess, turn over machine
Kyrie, Harden and KD being unstoppable when they were on the floor together but never being on the floor together is more disappointing IMO
Isn't it more disappointing to have our 3 all on the floor and still being mid?
Maybe. Though the Hakeem-Pippen-Barkley Rockets were pretty ugly.
We messed up getting another 2 guard. Beal is fucking awesome but these guys cannot get the best out of each other. Unless it’s just all on Vogel. If we got the KP and jrue holiday package 😭
This is what people were saying in the offseason but got called haters
Ideally, you don't need a 1 if you have an offensive scheme that the team can follow. Problem is, it doesn't seem like this team has that offensive scheme.
I saw the vision but instead we have hot potato pick n roll
I mean, I'd love a hot potato pick n roll than ISO all day everyday. At least Pick and Roll can potentially create a 5 on 4 or 4 on 3 advantage.
Westbrook, PG, and Melo on the Thunder
Melo was washed by them stop
that was hardly a big 3
Kobe, Nash and Dwight Howard
Bradley Beal refused to shoot because he was worried about his his 3-pt%. That guy doesn't deserve to be anywhere near a hypothetical "big 3".
What's happening with the Suns is not about the BIG 3, it's about the fact that you can't build a bench on veterans but you have to have a mix of players and more importantly bring in young promising players and give them space. Im sick we have Nassir and he plays only in garbage time…
Remember the Lakers with Shaq, Kobe, Karl Malone, Gary Payton etc? I thought that team was like the next Dream Team when it was announced haha
At least they made the finals 
They suck together if we all want to admit the truth. The only one worthy is Durant who plays both sides of the floor. Booker is a bg zero when he has height guarding him and Beal is just not that guy.
Who’s the third?
Who’s the first?
It's Beal, Bol, and Allen (outside of that garbage last two weeks)
Big 0- more like it
Yup. Face it ya’ll, suns best chance of all time was against bucks, no one was gonna beat the bulls. Suns are cursed. They’ve been bad all year, and their future is awful. I would literally trade all of them to get draft picks back and turn towards future.
Up 2-0 and choked the finals away. Game 5 at home choked that away. Game 6 was tight in the 4th. That’s going to haunt the suns for a long long time. Then being the 1 seed the year after just to slapped I’m games 6 and 7 by the mavs ain’t a curse the players aren’t built like that they fold under pressure time and time again.
lol allen got hurt that's the real worry here. iso play doesn't cut it any more in this league and shootings harder with all the physicality they're allowing, to make up for all the shooting that's taken over the league. On top of that give minny credit they have a great team on the defensive end. On the suns to figure out how to make the 2nd and third pass and have it end up in an open big 3 member. Different ball game at home and for the love of god play bol bol, his length alone is better than EG.
It would be nice to make A pass without turning it over or passing it at the last second to a defensively draped teammate. There’s zero picks or attempts at getting each other open off the ball.
Its hard to know when its only their first year together, in the 2nd game, of the first round of the playoffs. I guess we will have to wait and see.
People forget most "superteams" ( not saying the Suns are one) typically didn't win their first year together
Beside the warriors and heat every other super teams has failed. And heat at least made the finals their first year before losing and warriors won back to back their first 2 years
My concern is that I've seen very little improvement. I gave them the benefit of the doubt with all the injuries, but they have had quite a few games at "full strength" now and things look pretty much the same.
I think that's disingenuous. They were like the 11th seed on Christmas day following the embarrassing Mavs loss, facing the hardest SoS for the rest of the season and they played well above .500 ball and got the 6 seed. They had limited time with Brad KD and Book together. Our last 10 games we went 7-3 against virtually all playoff competition. KD & Beal only played 41 games together this year, idk how many of those book was in too but that's literally less than half a season at "full strength"
The FKN Big 3 needs to wake up
Different game when we play at home. Their role players won’t be that good.
Not to sure about that, their role players have a role.....and they play it.
Easy when your at home
Yeah I agree...but when you play a lot of iso with mediocre defense, it becomes a lot harder to rely on that against a team with dedicated roles.
If the Series doesn’t 6 yeah
People here saying “Kobe Nash Dwight” clearly don’t know what happened. Kobe tore his Achilles and didn’t play in the playoffs but willed the team there anyways when Dwight and Nash was injured in the regular season. We have all 3 healthy currently in the playoffs, it would be embarrassing if we got swept
payton malone o’neal and bryant? but that’s 4 and also ireland dont hoop. no expectations no disappointment
Who would have thought clearing the roster and keeping two players and adding another max player SG when we already had a max player SG and not bringing in an elite PG and also adding a brand new coach to a bunch of new players would have some issues? These guys have no clue what their roles are or how they fit in together. That's due to coaching and time playing together.
Not yet… won’t be the first time young team drops 2-0 lead vs. veteran team (kings last year the freshest example)… and there’s still an outside chance for next year… strangest things happened (not that I have much, if any, faith in either scenario, but just saying).. so, on the way there I would say
Beal was never going to be "big" anything. Trading for his ridiculous and redundant contract instead of doing everything to get a real PG + better defenders was the absurd thing, this shit is nowhere near "most disappointing" when it's not a surprise to anyone but the most committed homers.
First it was that abomination of IT, Tragic, and Bledsoe. Now it's Book, Beal, and KD. I never want to hear about a "3" when it comes to their roster construction ever again.
Durant = most disappointing “big 1” of all time
Could be worse, we could have had Carmelo Anthony, D Rose, and Porzingis. Brandon Jennings was the third best player on that putrid Knicks team lolol
Meh doomers lol
Giannis hurt kyrie on purpose, otherwise a ring….
One of my all time favorite WINNING team was that of Isaiah Thomas, Joe Dumas, John Salley, Dennis Rodman and Bill Laimbeer. I'm talking back to back championships with not one Superstar among them. They were a no nonsense "team first" winning attitude. The prime Detroit Pistons. Although Chauncy Billups, Ben Wallace and Rip Hamilton were pretty damn good too with back to back championships 👍
The most poorly constructed big 3 at least.
Top 3 flops.
No because everyone saw this coming from miles away.
Soft 3
I think the 2013-14 Nets big 3 was the worst big 3 of all time. The age of the super team is over and the Suns are late to the party. No point in blowing up the team since Brooklyn has our draft picks.
It's impressive how little they care
nope. theres been many more. Hell the Rony Siekaly, Glen Rice, Grant Long, Mookie Blaylock, Steve Smith was pretty disappointing.
LeBron’s era was tainted by this diva “king”. I hate anything with Big 3. Bunch of soft ass players
Not even remotely close
Until we’re eliminated from playoffs, posts like this are so unnecessary and irrelevant. You’re just letting your emotions take over before you can make a conclusive judgement. I understand from the naked eye it’s looked underwhelming but I urge you all to save your takes for the post season, if In 2-3 games we’re in Cancun then go all out but it’s not worth it until then. We’ve all go high anxiety running so I think it’s important to hold tight until we can be conclusive. Of all the fans in recent years, we know that a 2-0 lead means virtually nothing.
didn’t see KD, Kyrie and harden ?
They nearly went to the finals if not for injuries and a big toe. This suns team is definitely the biggest disappointment
And suns would've 1000% smashed the Nets into the ground that year.
Doubt it. They were blowing out the Bucks in that series until Kyrie got hurt
and then what happened ?
The 3 of them were never bad when they played together. They were actually extremely good. Just couldn’t stay healthy.
Yeah wasn't their record like 18-2 or some shit when they played together?
the title of the post is “disappointing” the fact that they were great together and just couldn’t get on the court at the same time just adds to the disappointment
ehh when they were on the court together they were amazing, basically a KD foot away from a chip