Well, those stories have always been written by human brains. It's probably time we let the humanoid lab grown robot brain give it a try, they may have a more original take on the matter.
The robobrain research facility in .. was that the Mechanist DLC for fallout 4? Stuff of nightmares. The journal entries detailing the response of the implanted brains was awful.
I forget where but I've read organic neural networks are going to blow away what we have today. If you think about the human brain and it's size it sounds reasonable to assume
This is what I’ve been waiting for.
Always felt dumb to make chip brains for AI when we have an alternate architecture.
Sure it is dystopian and weird as hell. But it was always obvious.
There's a paywall. Is there any verifiable evidence this is real?
That thing kind of looks fake. Not saying that it is, but it's just a pink blob with a plastic stick coming out of it. Did they grow it to have a nervous system capable of i/o by just jabbing a f$$king nail in it and it's just good to go, or is there a whitepaper on this explaining that they grew different types of nerves around diodes on the thing sticking out of the top of it?
Looks like a cheap movie prop. I mean a lot of real things *do* look like cheap movie props, I just am wonder what the odds are that this is bullshit?
Ok cool. It's peer reviewed outside of a Chinese university so it's probably real (not new, the US is doing this too but I haven't seen anyone implement it in a robot). The tech is real even if the photos were fake, anyway.
The use of this for medical purposes is amazing, this could be a game changer in that context.
The use of this technology for "computing" however is egregiously unethical, whether the China or the US or anyone is doing that. That's not computing it's interfacing with a *real human brain* that is being forced into a disembodied existence and has the very real potential to develop (and damn well could already be experiencing) *real* human suffering. If it were "computing" you wouldn't need to rely on a biological black box to accomplish it.
This isn't "computing" it's a disgusting indifference to human pain and a crime against humanity. This will lead to unfathomable suffering if it is further pursued as a compute platform.
A *Human Being* is not a computer, it doesn't matter if it is functionally indistinguishable, it very much IS distinguishable ethically. This is slavery.
Instead of developing computational hardware and processes that are physically incapable of the potential to experience literal human suffering, all they have done is find a hack to disembody existing known, biological intelligence.
Again, medically, this is potentially very useful. This could enable something where you have a parallel clone of your brain made out of your brain tissue that is kept alive but kept inactive, and it seems that this would be a pathway to physically migrate existing brain activity to that substrate as a means of transferring your sentience to a new brain/body etc. I can get behind that.
But to consider using this a "computing platform" is fucking atrocious. It's a living, human brain, not a simulation of one, and if you want to ask "well why don't you care about the simulated ones" well then maybe we should ask that too? That doesn't make it ok to use human brains as computers it just makes our use of massive LLMs and other networks as commercial products questionable. LLMs are not sentient, a human brain is, and an "organoid" that is sufficiently developed to the point it matches or surpasses a human brain, that is then forced into an existence of labor, servitude, or simply being a research platform for any use other than medical is heinously unethical.
Never seen a sci-fi story where this ends well
Emotions have tormented you all of your life. Now you will be set free. This is your liberation
Well, those stories have always been written by human brains. It's probably time we let the humanoid lab grown robot brain give it a try, they may have a more original take on the matter.
All it keeps saying is "kill me" over and over again.
South park PETA episode...
*"Creator, what is my purpose?"*
You pass butter.
You should read the Murderbot Diaries
Well…… f**k. Not much else to say.
Ah, yes, the Robo-Brain as made famous by the Fallout franchise
The robobrain research facility in .. was that the Mechanist DLC for fallout 4? Stuff of nightmares. The journal entries detailing the response of the implanted brains was awful.
Didn’t they use the brains of prison inmates?
War. War never changes.
You mean the robo brain made famous by the spy kids franchise
Oh, sweet! Man-made horrors beyond my comprehension
The cyborg age is starting.
Cylons
Krang!
That’s a bit much. Okay, stop 🛑
Just another organoid
Mary Shelley would like a word.
It’s fine. Just some wholesome tinkering. Nothing to concern yourself with.
That seems cruel. 🙁
Yeah? You feel bad for the artifical brain?
How?
Noice!
And so it begins.
This has been my thought almost every other week for too many years already… We’re such a dumb, self annihilating bunch. Just can’t help ourselves.
Paywall pinhead
Some people need everything handed to them... https://archive.ph/njqiF
That’s a hard nope from me, dawg.
That is the most Chinese-ass idea what the fuck?
JFC, that looks disturbing as fuck, like the first 15 minutes of some scifi horror movie that doesn't end well.
So a cymek? Did no one read all the sci-fi about this being a SUPER bad idea?
# oh Krang, nice
Can it play doom?
I feel like maybe humanity should collectively put the kaibosh on this kind of stuff or shit is gonna get real weird, real quick.
This is literally Robocop lol
No, Robocop was an actual human originally, this is Murderbot.
Oh hi SecUnit.
Gives all new meaning to "Jar Head".
I refuse to believe the Doctor never figured out that Earth was really Skaros all along.
"You have 5 seconds to comply"
Open the pod bay doors HAL
I forget where but I've read organic neural networks are going to blow away what we have today. If you think about the human brain and it's size it sounds reasonable to assume
This is what I’ve been waiting for. Always felt dumb to make chip brains for AI when we have an alternate architecture. Sure it is dystopian and weird as hell. But it was always obvious.
Now if it was a hybrid ape-human brain… that would be something
Servitors.
This scientists are monsters. Put them in a jail.
Cyborg, Robocop, now Communist?
I have no mouth, and I must scream
There's a paywall. Is there any verifiable evidence this is real? That thing kind of looks fake. Not saying that it is, but it's just a pink blob with a plastic stick coming out of it. Did they grow it to have a nervous system capable of i/o by just jabbing a f$$king nail in it and it's just good to go, or is there a whitepaper on this explaining that they grew different types of nerves around diodes on the thing sticking out of the top of it? Looks like a cheap movie prop. I mean a lot of real things *do* look like cheap movie props, I just am wonder what the odds are that this is bullshit?
Paywall removed: https://archive.is/njqiF
Ok cool. It's peer reviewed outside of a Chinese university so it's probably real (not new, the US is doing this too but I haven't seen anyone implement it in a robot). The tech is real even if the photos were fake, anyway. The use of this for medical purposes is amazing, this could be a game changer in that context. The use of this technology for "computing" however is egregiously unethical, whether the China or the US or anyone is doing that. That's not computing it's interfacing with a *real human brain* that is being forced into a disembodied existence and has the very real potential to develop (and damn well could already be experiencing) *real* human suffering. If it were "computing" you wouldn't need to rely on a biological black box to accomplish it. This isn't "computing" it's a disgusting indifference to human pain and a crime against humanity. This will lead to unfathomable suffering if it is further pursued as a compute platform. A *Human Being* is not a computer, it doesn't matter if it is functionally indistinguishable, it very much IS distinguishable ethically. This is slavery. Instead of developing computational hardware and processes that are physically incapable of the potential to experience literal human suffering, all they have done is find a hack to disembody existing known, biological intelligence. Again, medically, this is potentially very useful. This could enable something where you have a parallel clone of your brain made out of your brain tissue that is kept alive but kept inactive, and it seems that this would be a pathway to physically migrate existing brain activity to that substrate as a means of transferring your sentience to a new brain/body etc. I can get behind that. But to consider using this a "computing platform" is fucking atrocious. It's a living, human brain, not a simulation of one, and if you want to ask "well why don't you care about the simulated ones" well then maybe we should ask that too? That doesn't make it ok to use human brains as computers it just makes our use of massive LLMs and other networks as commercial products questionable. LLMs are not sentient, a human brain is, and an "organoid" that is sufficiently developed to the point it matches or surpasses a human brain, that is then forced into an existence of labor, servitude, or simply being a research platform for any use other than medical is heinously unethical.
Seriously! Seems fake to me. Or at most it’s just an organic circuit network.