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Yeah I still remember the time in primary school when I lost marks for getting the correct answer to 52 * 78 but the question said estimate. Made me wary for the rest of my academic life
> 5205 * 7893
Expanding on that a little, if I see that I'm not gonna have a clue what the right answer is, but like, maybe I don't need to know. Maybe I only need the order of magnitude, because I need to compare it to something, or maybe only the first couple digits are significant. if I round to 5000 \* 8000, I know 5 \* 8 is 40, 1000 \* 1000 (the orders of magnitude) is 1,000,000, so it's in the ballpark of 40 million. That takes a few seconds, compared to working out the whole problem. That's the skill they're building when they ask you to *estimate*
I'm reminded of an xkcd what-if article where Randall does some very extreme estimation and at one point writes "don't tell anyone I said it's ok to do math like this" or some such.
Yeah lol the mole of moles
> I can pick up a mole (animal) and throw it.^^[citation ^^needed] Anything I can throw weighs one pound. One pound is one kilogram. The number 602,214,129,000,000,000,000,000 looks about twice as long as a trillion, which means it’s about a trillion trillion. I happen to remember that a trillion trillion kilograms is how much a planet weighs.
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> … if anyone asks, I did not tell you it was ok to do math like this.
youre right on estimation being important, but the way they do it is a pain because they dont teach proper estimation methods. im about a third through maths on the back of an envolope by rob eastway, and i have learned a lot about estimation that they never teach you in schools.
Not even, albeit it’s not what was asked indeed. But kids are really bad at approximations. Many struggle with loosely guessing a value that close enough by feel, so they have to practice it. It’s easier for them to just exactly count it, because that’s what they did all the time up to date.
Yeah. I was being a bit facetious reallly. But I was making a point: the purpose of the question wasn’t to get the exact answer, or that’s what it would have asked for.
As a side note, I was always pretty good at approximating. But I sucked at actual arithmetic.
We were specifically taught to analize quesitons and, no matter how stupid, follow the instructions. In case the wording was incorrect, or had multiple possible meanings, we had to specify that we're operating under the assumption of something, and give an answer based on that assumption. If the assumption made sense, they had to accept a correct answer even if it wasn't what they had in mind.
You *were* wrong though. Giving an exact answer when asked for an estimate is misunderstanding the question. The teacher might not have delivered the lesson well but the concept is pretty straight forward.
That's some BS reasoning. If you want an estimate, the correct answer should lie within some range around the true result. Therefore giving the exact solution is just a perfect approximation
But the test doesn't need you to find the answer it needs you to demonstrate the skill it's looking for. In this case the skill it's looking for is estimatin. Calculating the correct answer doesn't demonstrate that you have the skill of estimating.
Too small of a range.
It's between 0+ (y'know, the smallest positive number) and the producer (sum but for products, this is the translation I found) from -googolplex to googolplex of a Googolplex to the power of a Googolplex googolplex times.
That'd be slightly closer to the correct range
I distinctly remember getting assigned multiplication questions I immediately knew off the top of my head like 12 × 11 and being marked wrong for answering 132 despite knowing that immediately. I didn't need to estimate goddammit! I just know my multiplication tables
School is so dumb. You get the correct result, but they scold you because you did it in different way than they asked. Happened to me at university... So so dumb.
Estimating is a different skill than memorizing a times table. It is entirely possible to get the right answer without learning the lesson.
To give a better example, let's say I'm trying to teach you how to use google and I want you to show me you know how to find out the year, I don't know, Da Vinci was born. If you say "Oh I know it, it was 1452!" you're correct but you're not demonstrating to me that you understand how to search google to get information.
I have seen it abused and misapplied by teachers, but sometimes what they are trying to teach you is the *method* and not the end result.
Like, I can play a few pieces on the piano, and they sound fine, but I am playing them with horrible technique, and I would be rightly criticized for using the wrong technique by a piano teacher if the goal was to move to harder pieces.
Math is often taught by people with barely a better understanding of math they are teaching.
We would find it completely unacceptable for a teacher with a 5th grade reading comprehensio, teaching 2nd grade reading, but with math, our society thinks it is more than fine
...Unless what they're trying to teach is a specific method of doing something rather than the thing itself.
School isn't just a series of tests that have 1 correct answer and if you get it right it means you won. Sometimes classes are trying to teach a variety of different methods of getting to answers because the process is what they're teaching, not the individual skill of multiplication.
Working as intended, right? It’s teaching you to actually read the question closely and use reading comprehension and critical thinking to understand what it actually is asking of you, as opposed to just assuming you know what it wants.
Estimation is a testable skill, and a useful one to have in life. You indeed got the question wrong. If you added when the question says subtract you’d still be wrong, even if you added correctly.
Because you're completely missing the point of the assignment. Learning how to estimate is a useful tool in life. Most people should be able to do 50 * 80 in their head but would require writing it down for 52 * 78.
On a test in middle school, I had to write out pi to just two digits (US public school). I wrote 3.14159 and got the answer wrong because it only asked for two digits…
Weird, the same thing happened to me.
I can only assume I was sick or something and missed when they explained how to do it. When I solved the questions like I normally would they pulled me aside and spoke to me like 'what do you think you're doing'?
Apparently you're supposed to round the numbers to the nearest 10.
Quick estimate was 400, because I lost a 0 not thinking about it.
4056, that took me a minute to do in my head.
Checked calculator, 4056.
Lesson learned, don't estimate, I lost an entire factor.
Fall off the bone slow cooked barbecue usually takes getting the meat up to near 200F. Gotta do it just right not to dry it out, but the meat is all there still.
is it tho?
i am not a doctor but im pretty sure a human could survive at 98c for some amount of time.
it wouldn't be pleasant, but you don't die instantly.
so it really depends on how long that person has been there.
Tardigrades can survive a wide array of extreme conditions as long as they are in their tun state. If you drop a fully alive tardigrade into 150° water it will die real quick.
Why tf is this downvoted? It's a factually true statement.
>Tardigrades can survive extreme conditions by going into a “tun” state, in which their body dries out and their metabolism drops to as little as 0.01 percent of its normal rate.
Yeah they start at 110c and start throwing löyly every 30 seconds. I bet everybody can be in 110c but it starts to get hard when the humidity increases every 30 seconds. It starts to become like boiling water
That is external temp. Internal body temp doesn't change much in that scenario. If the internal body temp is 98.7 C, or 207.9 F this person is dead and is in an oven.
The whole point I think is to force the student to pay attention to units. As someone with a chemistry degree, it was drilled into my head, over and over, units are important
I wouldn't pass middle school physics if I didn't write every single unit and make sure the answer I arrive at also has the correct unit I arrived at with algebra on them.
A lot of people in our uni classes would get called out in tests for selecting the wrong ‘unit’ option between pill, tablet, capsule & caplet, based on the wording used in the question.
It wouldn’t even be consequential in the vast majority of cases, but people liked defaulting to ‘tablets’, and they liked to prove a point of attention to details (understandably for the course).
They presumably meant 98.7 F. They say it's supposed to be 98.6 F, but that's just 37 C translated exactly to Fahrenheit, so it's roughly within half a degree C or one degree F.
Apparently my parents had to trek across the desert in this kind of temperature to get to school each day. That is, when it wasn’t snowing and the school was at the top of a mountain.
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Assuming this is a bio paper where the context is “base heart rate is (x)bpm at ~20°C, and increases by (y) for every 1° increase…” The question probably comes in a set where it sets you up to plug it into a calculator with some other questions, but catches out students who just use the formula without thinking.
It was meant to be in Fahrenheit, I would bet money on it.
Far more likely that they meant to ask, what heart rate would be at 98.6⁰F (normal body temperature), than tricking students.
Yeah because this was likely an error I would actually ~~right~~ write this down and then circle/underline the *C* to make the teacher look, because, in all likelihood, they wouldn't be looking at the question just the answer key and answer.
That's actually "average body temperature" not normal. Normal body temp in humans is actually a pretty wide range of 97F to 99F, depending on the human.
As a teacher, can confirm this is likely the case. Sometimes gems like these slip through the cracks and it kills me to see which students catch it and what kind of stuff they write in response lol.
Depends on whether they're talking about the internal body temperature or the outside temperature, because otherwise like 80% of finns would have a problem...xD
Did you know that humans are actually endothermic. They have this neat trick of cooling down and transferring heat out of their bodies by actually pushing water through their skin! This means that if the ambient temperature is 100 C, the body temperature of an average human specimen will still be around 37 C.
"Paitent has steam coming outta their ears, is scalding hot to the touch, and their eyes have melted onto the floor. Following up with doctor... and a fire extinguisher."
To be fair it just says the temperature, not the body temperature, and I've definitely been in saunas over 100° because that's just how the Finnish immigrants seemed to like their sauna. I didn't immediately die, but laying in the snow every few minutes was a necessity.
Yeah, but your internal body temperature doesn't. If your temperature was 98C (like 200F) your proteins would denature, you'd die. It's officially slow cooker territory.
If it meant temperature around you instead of body teamperature then you don't have enough information. There can be 5 people in the sauna with temperature around 98C, but they each can have very different heartbeats per minute, depending how long they are there, how well they are hydrated, etc etc. However 5 people with internal temperature of 98C will all have the same bpm. Which will be 0, but if you apply this logic to some more normal ranges then it makes sense.
98.7C is 209.66F. 0bpm is correct. Humans encounter heatstroke and irreparable brain damage once temperature exceeds 108.2 degrees Fahrenheit. 98.7 is 2.33x that. Humans are DEAD AS FUCK.
Alright, this just triggered one of my extremely niche interests. Some out-of-control sauna enthusiasts have actually managed to survive higher temperatures for short lengths of time - think around 110 degrees C. I’m not saying it’s a good idea, as it is indeed incredibly dangerous. It’s common to come out of these extreme sauna experiences with severe burns and/or internal organ damage, and at least one death (conclusively related to endurance sauna sitting) has been documented.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Sauna_Championships
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So melt off all your skin.
It is, getting so hot, it's gonna melt your skiinnn offf
I can hear the song in my head but the music video is all gruesome
It's a Hellraiser music video.
Sexy
I did that last night while going to grab a pan that was in the 420F oven. "**FUCK!**" I exclaimed.
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I expected more would get this reference
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[It's getting hot in here so another one bites the dust](https://youtu.be/9LUPMLkVomk)
That’s not an estimation. That’s an exactly correct answer. They should’ve written ~0bpm.
Yeah I still remember the time in primary school when I lost marks for getting the correct answer to 52 * 78 but the question said estimate. Made me wary for the rest of my academic life
I remember that. It was awful as a little kid because it made me feel like I was completely wrong for giving the exact answer
Here’s the rub: it wasn’t a math question, it was an English comprehension question disguised as a math question.
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> 5205 * 7893 Expanding on that a little, if I see that I'm not gonna have a clue what the right answer is, but like, maybe I don't need to know. Maybe I only need the order of magnitude, because I need to compare it to something, or maybe only the first couple digits are significant. if I round to 5000 \* 8000, I know 5 \* 8 is 40, 1000 \* 1000 (the orders of magnitude) is 1,000,000, so it's in the ballpark of 40 million. That takes a few seconds, compared to working out the whole problem. That's the skill they're building when they ask you to *estimate*
This
I'm reminded of an xkcd what-if article where Randall does some very extreme estimation and at one point writes "don't tell anyone I said it's ok to do math like this" or some such.
Yeah lol the mole of moles > I can pick up a mole (animal) and throw it.^^[citation ^^needed] Anything I can throw weighs one pound. One pound is one kilogram. The number 602,214,129,000,000,000,000,000 looks about twice as long as a trillion, which means it’s about a trillion trillion. I happen to remember that a trillion trillion kilograms is how much a planet weighs. > > > > … if anyone asks, I did not tell you it was ok to do math like this.
youre right on estimation being important, but the way they do it is a pain because they dont teach proper estimation methods. im about a third through maths on the back of an envolope by rob eastway, and i have learned a lot about estimation that they never teach you in schools.
That makes sense but it doesn't make sense to have it loose points for getting the right answer, especially when it's without a calculator
Not even, albeit it’s not what was asked indeed. But kids are really bad at approximations. Many struggle with loosely guessing a value that close enough by feel, so they have to practice it. It’s easier for them to just exactly count it, because that’s what they did all the time up to date.
Yeah. I was being a bit facetious reallly. But I was making a point: the purpose of the question wasn’t to get the exact answer, or that’s what it would have asked for. As a side note, I was always pretty good at approximating. But I sucked at actual arithmetic.
We were specifically taught to analize quesitons and, no matter how stupid, follow the instructions. In case the wording was incorrect, or had multiple possible meanings, we had to specify that we're operating under the assumption of something, and give an answer based on that assumption. If the assumption made sense, they had to accept a correct answer even if it wasn't what they had in mind.
Because it wasn't. Estimating can be a useful skill and it's important to have
You *were* wrong though. Giving an exact answer when asked for an estimate is misunderstanding the question. The teacher might not have delivered the lesson well but the concept is pretty straight forward.
That's some BS reasoning. If you want an estimate, the correct answer should lie within some range around the true result. Therefore giving the exact solution is just a perfect approximation
But the test doesn't need you to find the answer it needs you to demonstrate the skill it's looking for. In this case the skill it's looking for is estimatin. Calculating the correct answer doesn't demonstrate that you have the skill of estimating.
You were semi-right, semi-wrong. Hopefully you got half points
This is the fundamental flaw with the check check-plus check-minus system!
The plus is arbitrary.
I'd say between 0.01 & 99 googolplex
The good thing is that you can copy paste it on all estimation questions as long as you make sure to precise the correct unit
precising the correct unit will precise your english composition class too
Not really. I once saw a question on a exam that was "estimate the name of the person on the top left of the image". I shit you not.
muhammed wang strikes again!
No, between -∞ and ∞
Some combination of binary "1" and "0"
Or just ℝ.
My guess would be that result can be expressed as a complex number z, in which ∞ ≥ Re(z) ≥ -∞ and ∞ ≥ Im(z) ≥ -∞.
Too small of a range. It's between 0+ (y'know, the smallest positive number) and the producer (sum but for products, this is the translation I found) from -googolplex to googolplex of a Googolplex to the power of a Googolplex googolplex times. That'd be slightly closer to the correct range
I distinctly remember getting assigned multiplication questions I immediately knew off the top of my head like 12 × 11 and being marked wrong for answering 132 despite knowing that immediately. I didn't need to estimate goddammit! I just know my multiplication tables
School is so dumb. You get the correct result, but they scold you because you did it in different way than they asked. Happened to me at university... So so dumb.
Estimating is a different skill than memorizing a times table. It is entirely possible to get the right answer without learning the lesson. To give a better example, let's say I'm trying to teach you how to use google and I want you to show me you know how to find out the year, I don't know, Da Vinci was born. If you say "Oh I know it, it was 1452!" you're correct but you're not demonstrating to me that you understand how to search google to get information.
I have seen it abused and misapplied by teachers, but sometimes what they are trying to teach you is the *method* and not the end result. Like, I can play a few pieces on the piano, and they sound fine, but I am playing them with horrible technique, and I would be rightly criticized for using the wrong technique by a piano teacher if the goal was to move to harder pieces.
Math is often taught by people with barely a better understanding of math they are teaching. We would find it completely unacceptable for a teacher with a 5th grade reading comprehensio, teaching 2nd grade reading, but with math, our society thinks it is more than fine
...Unless what they're trying to teach is a specific method of doing something rather than the thing itself. School isn't just a series of tests that have 1 correct answer and if you get it right it means you won. Sometimes classes are trying to teach a variety of different methods of getting to answers because the process is what they're teaching, not the individual skill of multiplication.
Working as intended, right? It’s teaching you to actually read the question closely and use reading comprehension and critical thinking to understand what it actually is asking of you, as opposed to just assuming you know what it wants.
Estimation is a testable skill, and a useful one to have in life. You indeed got the question wrong. If you added when the question says subtract you’d still be wrong, even if you added correctly.
Because you're completely missing the point of the assignment. Learning how to estimate is a useful tool in life. Most people should be able to do 50 * 80 in their head but would require writing it down for 52 * 78.
On a test in middle school, I had to write out pi to just two digits (US public school). I wrote 3.14159 and got the answer wrong because it only asked for two digits…
Well you didn't follow the instructions and got the question wrong. What did you expect?
Weird, the same thing happened to me. I can only assume I was sick or something and missed when they explained how to do it. When I solved the questions like I normally would they pulled me aside and spoke to me like 'what do you think you're doing'? Apparently you're supposed to round the numbers to the nearest 10.
Quick estimate was 400, because I lost a 0 not thinking about it. 4056, that took me a minute to do in my head. Checked calculator, 4056. Lesson learned, don't estimate, I lost an entire factor.
Tell that to the people who compete (or competed) in the sauna championships. Those fuckers sat around in 110 degrees C
Can they just sit in boiling water? Thats colder
Absolute temperature is colder, but you’ll heat up way faster thanks to coefficient of heat transfer.
You can estimate the correct answer
At 98.7C I’m gonna drop the ~ and say that’s a block of charcoal
Not charcoal but definitely well done cooked meat
Well done meat is still ~150 F = 66 C, you get to near boiling and there ain't gonna be much left
Fall off the bone slow cooked barbecue usually takes getting the meat up to near 200F. Gotta do it just right not to dry it out, but the meat is all there still.
How hot so you think 99°C is? It's below boiling temperature.
<1bpm
I genuinely had a similar question in a uni interview about heart rate and that was the answer
is it tho? i am not a doctor but im pretty sure a human could survive at 98c for some amount of time. it wouldn't be pleasant, but you don't die instantly. so it really depends on how long that person has been there.
Not if you're a water bear! They can handle like 150°
But they don't have a heartbeat either...
You're correct! No lungs eighter..
What are the 6 other points?
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Becaude you misspelled "either" and wrote "eighter"...
Ahh alright lol, thanks
Answer the damn question
Your moms triangle shaped tits
What 🤨
Eighter
6 dicks. They truly are amazing creatures.
I heard they had, like, 30 goddamn dicks.
They're so weird!
And can survive in the vacuum of space!
Tardigrades can survive a wide array of extreme conditions as long as they are in their tun state. If you drop a fully alive tardigrade into 150° water it will die real quick.
Why tf is this downvoted? It's a factually true statement. >Tardigrades can survive extreme conditions by going into a “tun” state, in which their body dries out and their metabolism drops to as little as 0.01 percent of its normal rate.
Can confirm
Can confirm their confirm
Whose temp is 98.7? - Home? Oven? Stove?
Wood burning sauna at the end of Saturday evening.
Sauna championships go up to 110°C and people stay inside for around ten minutes.
Yeah they start at 110c and start throwing löyly every 30 seconds. I bet everybody can be in 110c but it starts to get hard when the humidity increases every 30 seconds. It starts to become like boiling water
TIL that there are sauna championships. I'm glad.
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Well they stopped when people started dying.
That is external temp. Internal body temp doesn't change much in that scenario. If the internal body temp is 98.7 C, or 207.9 F this person is dead and is in an oven.
You know its time to relax when the rantasauna is ready.
The whole point I think is to force the student to pay attention to units. As someone with a chemistry degree, it was drilled into my head, over and over, units are important
I wouldn't pass middle school physics if I didn't write every single unit and make sure the answer I arrive at also has the correct unit I arrived at with algebra on them.
A lot of people in our uni classes would get called out in tests for selecting the wrong ‘unit’ option between pill, tablet, capsule & caplet, based on the wording used in the question. It wouldn’t even be consequential in the vast majority of cases, but people liked defaulting to ‘tablets’, and they liked to prove a point of attention to details (understandably for the course).
Saunas can get that hot
They presumably meant 98.7 F. They say it's supposed to be 98.6 F, but that's just 37 C translated exactly to Fahrenheit, so it's roughly within half a degree C or one degree F.
But it clearly says 98.7°C
Right he's saying what they meant. clearly it was meant to be F
That's probably why they said meant
But why would anyone use Fahrenheit?
You know very well a nonzero amount of Americans will go to insane lengths to avoid the metric system.
Boiling water is 100c
Depends on altitude, water boils at 98.7 C at 1200 ft. (about 365 m.)
Apparently my parents had to trek across the desert in this kind of temperature to get to school each day. That is, when it wasn’t snowing and the school was at the top of a mountain.
You can’t forget their house was also on the top of another mountain, and they only had wooden shoes
Your parents had shoes? Must've been nice.
Plus it was uphill both ways.
That was the implication with the house being on the top of one mountain and the school on another lol
The wooden shoes had nails on the inside and their backpack was filled with 63kg of rocks
They walked uphill both ways and swam through the seven seas
*laughs in Finnish and throws more water on the sauna stove*
that's right! why is the sauna so cold?
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Ok Google say this is about 208°F so if correct than wouldn't this answer be right like actual right? What is the answer if not this?
Assuming this is a bio paper where the context is “base heart rate is (x)bpm at ~20°C, and increases by (y) for every 1° increase…” The question probably comes in a set where it sets you up to plug it into a calculator with some other questions, but catches out students who just use the formula without thinking.
It was meant to be in Fahrenheit, I would bet money on it. Far more likely that they meant to ask, what heart rate would be at 98.6⁰F (normal body temperature), than tricking students.
Yeah because this was likely an error I would actually ~~right~~ write this down and then circle/underline the *C* to make the teacher look, because, in all likelihood, they wouldn't be looking at the question just the answer key and answer.
"right" this down...
T\_T
That's only if you assume this is from a country that uses Fahrenheit
That's actually "average body temperature" not normal. Normal body temp in humans is actually a pretty wide range of 97F to 99F, depending on the human.
Normal(ized)
As a teacher, can confirm this is likely the case. Sometimes gems like these slip through the cracks and it kills me to see which students catch it and what kind of stuff they write in response lol.
Ah ok thank you
It’s a dumb question though, especially because it’s biology!
My guess was similar, except that it was supposed to be in Fahrenheit, rather than that it was meant to catch students
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Well at 40.5°C the denaturation of your insides (aka cooking) would begin. You would basically be SouViding yourself from the inside out.
Ooh! Sous-Vide!
Depends on whether they're talking about the internal body temperature or the outside temperature, because otherwise like 80% of finns would have a problem...xD
Did you know that humans are actually endothermic. They have this neat trick of cooling down and transferring heat out of their bodies by actually pushing water through their skin! This means that if the ambient temperature is 100 C, the body temperature of an average human specimen will still be around 37 C.
*ackshually*, your blood would be simmering.
"Paitent has steam coming outta their ears, is scalding hot to the touch, and their eyes have melted onto the floor. Following up with doctor... and a fire extinguisher."
Reading this almost makes my blood boil.
This guy has never heard of saunas before
To be fair it just says the temperature, not the body temperature, and I've definitely been in saunas over 100° because that's just how the Finnish immigrants seemed to like their sauna. I didn't immediately die, but laying in the snow every few minutes was a necessity.
It was never specified 98.7C was the ambient temp. A body temp of 98.7C would certainly make the answer true.
Amd it was never specified it's body temp.
If you're looking to be cooked like a live lobster, then yes...similar type of sauna...
Finnish saunas reach up to 120⁰C. Amd that's the vanilla stuff
A sauna that heats your body temperature to 98 C is probably not very safe
The question doesn't specify that it's body temperature
Are we talking about room temperature or body temperature? Room? Just normal Saturday night sauna. Body? Yikes.
They have never been in a real sauna I see.
Average finnish sauna
I've seen this so many times, but every time I end up taking 30 seconds to figure it out
Very smart. At that temperature, it would be cooked "well done."
OP has never been to sauna
It's not even technically correct though.. sauna's exist and go higher than 98.7 C
Yeah, but your internal body temperature doesn't. If your temperature was 98C (like 200F) your proteins would denature, you'd die. It's officially slow cooker territory.
It doesn't say body temperature, it says temperature
If it meant temperature around you instead of body teamperature then you don't have enough information. There can be 5 people in the sauna with temperature around 98C, but they each can have very different heartbeats per minute, depending how long they are there, how well they are hydrated, etc etc. However 5 people with internal temperature of 98C will all have the same bpm. Which will be 0, but if you apply this logic to some more normal ranges then it makes sense.
Also, this is r/technicallythetruth and the question doesn't mention a sauna. This whole sauna argument has been red herrings and semantics.
Exactly. It's obviously a steam room, not a sauna.
Which temp! Internal or external environment?
98.7 F is ~ 37.06 C, so I guess they fucked up the scale.
Is this the citizenship application for Finland by any chance?
Super dead
That sounds as wacky as the questions I get for drivers ed😂
This ALMOST has my blood boiling lol
98.7C is 209.66F. 0bpm is correct. Humans encounter heatstroke and irreparable brain damage once temperature exceeds 108.2 degrees Fahrenheit. 98.7 is 2.33x that. Humans are DEAD AS FUCK.
Let him cook
This feels like trick question a prof would give for extra credit.
For any Americans here, the temperature is exactly 1.3°C shy of the Boiling temperature of water
I dislike when I find these on tests (albeit to a lesser extent) because I have to also write the expected answer and that ruins the joke.
Not even an estimate, it's an absolutely real value.
After about an hour I'd say \~medium well?
Oh lawdy, somebody’s got the “fun” professor.
That person is getting internal 5th degree burns.
This is the doctor I want
I’d say somewhere between negative zero and positive zero so maybe zero
Thats about perfect temperature for Finnish sauna. I'd say approximately 85bpm before throwing water at the rocks. It's pretty relaxing.
Average Finnish sauna temperature
9 yo me thinking the hotter the temperature the faster the movement🤨
"Well done"
Alright, this just triggered one of my extremely niche interests. Some out-of-control sauna enthusiasts have actually managed to survive higher temperatures for short lengths of time - think around 110 degrees C. I’m not saying it’s a good idea, as it is indeed incredibly dangerous. It’s common to come out of these extreme sauna experiences with severe burns and/or internal organ damage, and at least one death (conclusively related to endurance sauna sitting) has been documented. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Sauna_Championships
No skin 😢
Can you say me please, wat's the max temperature a human can hold
At 98.7°C there is very low chance to even have a heart left, let alone have a heart beat