I love how he plays the part so humbly. A big star reduced to doing birthday parties. So much pain and dignity in that scene. A father who loves his daughter.
Honestly the entire build up to the bomb dropping was incredible, from the way they would cut to the wide background shot and interspersed the flash of the dad taking the photos it just built up really well great sense of tension
I love how you’re getting little hints of how bad shit has gotten like the weather man melting down on air. It really added to the sense of dread. The show is brilliant so far.
Yes! The sort of breadcrumbs of oh shit they are literally right on the brink and then you realize that it’s coming and even just the refusal to give the thumbs up it was masterfully done
I like that this is the way they handled every "going to shit" scene and the plot twists in the first season. They don't surprise you with big shocks, they slowly build tension and dread with enough hints that *maybe* you guess what's gonna happen, but you *definitely* know something is gonna go terribly wrong.
Maybe I'm just too used to bad/cheap writing but it felt like a breath of fresh air.
This is a great scene to rewatch when you finish the show. I immediately went for a rewatch and man oh man this scene hits so different when you know the whole story of Cooper.
I know what I'm doing tomorrow then. Finished episode 6 this morning. Absolutely love the show and also just re-downloaded Fallout 4. So excited to have uranium fever again!
Since you've got Prime be sure to claim the free Fallout games they're giving out on Prime Gaming. Fallout 76 is well worth grabbing for the price, it's basically Fallout 4 with a worse plot, better map, and multiplayer.
It ain't without its flaws still - some rather glaring flaws - but they've actually done a lot of work on the game over the years. It's much different than the buggy, half-assed contradictory mess it was on launch. Legitimately a fun game now, at least if you liked Fallout 4.
If nothing else, worst case you lose nothing but time trying it out.
I went straight for Fallout 3.
Did you know that game is fifteen fucking years old JFC
It's old enough to get kicked out of home for being a smart ass.
Anyway Fallout 3 is a retro game now and it certainly feels... A lil janky
Oh it's still enjoyable and a lot of fun, the charm is all there.
It's just like...
When you chat to an NPC... Or try and do FPS stuff... It's rough lol
Yeah I hadn't planned to watch it back to back but wanted to see this scene again and then kept going, the second time through understanding everyone's motives has been more interesting than expected.
That line was absolutely heartbreaking, a great performance, also seen the cloud begin to form in the reflection and you just know it’s way to close to matter
It was unnerving! I think because as the audience, there was no spoiler that the nuclear apocalypse was about to happen. The characters we watched were tense and scared about the possibility, but wanted to be optimistic.
The anticipation for the explosion was built up very well. I thought for sure every wide shot of the city would flash and mushroom cloud, but the scene kept building with a great world building experience before the inevitable finally happened.
I guess as one who has played some of the games, I knew the war happens, and so I was expecting it in or around this scene.
I did think they did a great job with a variety of realistic reactions all in that span of a minute or so, and the previous minutes leading up to it how they all were handling daily life under the threat of annihilation.
I also loved the spot where Lucy emerges and sees the wreckage from hundreds of years ago, kinda like Pompeii.
I love Fallout because of how it explores a topic that is so existentially terrifying, and has a lot of little thought experiments on the logical conclusion of many aspects of our society.
I only watched episode 1 so far, but man, chilling stuff. I think this is going to be a ride.
Although I don't understand how no one in the background noticed an unbelievably bright flash of light right behind them, they just carried on watching that tv.
Realistically everyone should have noticed and Cooper's daughter should have been blinded by the initial flash.
But on the other hand it's Fallout. The series leans heavily on the 1950s and that includes 50s ideas about nuclear war that make it sound much more survivable than it actually would be. Sure it's not realistic but it was never trying to be so I'll give it a pass.
I love how both realistic the guns are, knifes and bullets will kill pretty easily, but medicine will also basically repair anyone anytime for whatever plot point. It's a lovely video game feel.
Because the father had been taking pictures using his flash just before it. They were desensitised to sudden flashes (even though the fatal flash was much brighter).
Yeah. I noticed and enjoyed this run up to destruction as well. It was very well done for those who knew what comes next (probably most of us) and it gave a clear indication of what was coming to someone who didn't (my wife... Don't judge her harshly).
Not even cowboy. Just… a Walton Goggins. Like you could tell someone to picture a man named Walton Goggins. Now don’t alter that image at all. And they will have absolutely pictured the most Walton Goggins looking son of a gun imaginable: Walton Goggins.
Justified is where it all really started for Goggins. I encourage you to check out that show because Boyd Crowder is an amazing, morally ambiguous character.
Edit: forgot about the Shield
Morally ambiguous??? Sir, you can certainly argue he's a likeable villain, and I would completely agree, but there's no way he's morally ambiguous. He is an outright ruthless murderer.
Justified is where he got to shine, but a lot of that core darkness in Boyd Crowder was perfected with Shane Vendrell in The Shield. By the end of that show I was watching it as much for Shane as I was for Vic Mackey.
Yeah he's a perfect foil/frenemy to Danny McBride. I'd be happy if everything either of them do from now was required to have the other guy in it.
He's 100% the reason I binged Fallout this weekend.
The shield is a top 5 all time great show start to finish. The last scene from the series ender is jaw droppingly great. Its stupid how great that show is.
If you want to see something VERY different from him, check out his run of episodes on Sons of Anarchy. When he first appears, my fear was that the character of Venus Van Dam was going to be played as a goof, but he plays it 100% serious, and quickly creates a well-rounded sympathetic character.
My wife has no interest in video games of the Falout w9rld, but we both love Walton Goggins. I convinced her to try this series based on him being in it. She's SO HAPPY that she did. She loves this show as much as I do.
I think I only watched the first season of Justified, but when I think of the show, I think of Boyd Crowder and I have to think a bit about it to remember the name of the protagonist.
Goggins is great in Fallout. His character is a fun anti-hero.
I really like the girl who plays Lucy. The guy that plays Maximus is ok but sort of dry.
In episode 6, his delivery of: >!These are called oysters. You want one? They make you feel so good. You want to make my cock explode now?!< very much reinforces this "Charisma 1" theory.
[They were added to Fallout Shelter to promote the show,](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout_Shelter_characters) so I guess we have their “canon” SPECIAL from that.
Notably, Maximus and The Ghoul both have 4 Intelligence, making them a point away from a low-int playthrough.
Yeah, idk, it makes sense for the Ghoul to me, but I think it should be a 5 for "default" smarts. Within the game mechanics "intelligence" is more about book smarts. Cooper is clever and witty and can think on his feet, but he's not a *tech* guy. He's just not actievly stupid. Maximus is often straight up just a dipshit so he should be like... 2? Bless him.
That plus perks and traits, yeah. We've been doing that the whole time we've been watching, per my wife's quip that the show is basically showing us multiple builds/playthroughs in one go. It is indeed pretty fun... plus it's giving both of us ideas for future playthroughs of several of the games.
> bloody mess perk
Hah, yeah, we both concluded the same after the first episode. The head explosion effect from the first guy he kills with a headshot is almost a 1:1 of the Bloody Mess headshot kill animation from FO3/FNV.
Not sure if he's got Toughness or Rad Child but he sure seems unconcerned about taking damage, too.
Really want to play a lone wolf ghoul like Cooper Howard now... if only you could make a Ghoul character.
Maybe Fo5 will have some sort of quest that turns you into a ghoul similar to Werewolf in Skyrin.
People have been asking for a way to become a Ghoul since... Fallout 1 I think. There are tons of mods for the modern games to enable that (I even made one). Bethesda *has* to know how bad people want it by now, so I really hope they'll include it in Fallout 5.
Nah, the idea was sound. But “Titus is dead, so we gotta get our story straight” sounds ominous af. He should’ve said “Titus ran from battle and was cut down by an irradiated Bear. I killed the bear, then took on the armor so I could finish the mission. Ad Victoriam!” or some such BS.
Truly a 1 INT, 1 Charisma build.
While possible, I thought he was actually just really fucking dumb lol. How the hell do you mix up a rotor and a circuit unless you're really really stupid?
All three have different builds, Lucy is the well rounded, high charisma/speech character, Maximus is the low IQ, high strength, power armor tank, and Goggins is the offensive gunslinger, bad guy playthrough. They fucking nailed this show!
Seriously. I don’t think any other game adaptation has so thoroughly implemented the games essence into a show while also just telling a damn good story in the new medium. It’s brilliant and layered and it’s really hitting the spot for me in this over saturated market.
The show runners firmly understood what the Halo guys didn't - when you make a show with a passionate devoted fan base for the game it's based on, you have to love the game, and know that the people watching your show loved the games so much they are willing to watch a TV show about them.
Make an adaptation for fans of the source material, and know that they will care about the tiny details.
This show was made, or at least plays like it was made, by people who loved the source and nailed the aesthetic and details to ground the story.
I prefer to think of it as Goggins' character being on New Game+. He knows the whole wasteland already, has a history with everyone, and was dormant at the start of the show. He's the player coming back to their lvl 99 save just to fuck around
I also think they’re varying levels of morality (just like when playing the game). Lucy is like the wasteland savior, Cooper is like the wasteland pariah, and Maximus kind of straddles the line, not sure whether he wants to do a good karma or bad karma play through.
Maximus is like the *"I'm going to play as a good guy"* playthrough, but the game inevitably nudges you into killing a guy... so then you just kinda roll with it.
Yeah, I think he’s intentionally kind of a dumb baby (because he’s in the brotherhood and they’re all a little weird like that in the cult). I appreciate it, honestly, and I think people sell the actor short because they don’t get the character is intentional.
One of his earliest scenes is one of his strongest, the interrogation by the Elder. You can see the hopeless emotion in his face as the interrogation goes on, and then when he's asked to say something in his defense, he takes a while to steel his nerves and show his resolve of why he's in the brotherhood with genuine conviction, and then the nervous relief when he's promoted right after. It's a great scene and he sells it so well. It tells you everything you need to know about the character and it wouldn't work nearly as well if he wasn't as good of an actor.
Oh my god yes! As a father this made me panick and feel so much empathy for those two. I really hope his daughter got to safety... but i can only imagine the worse...
I had to pause it after she says that and he turns around to see what she's looking at. I wasn't really expecting to get so hung up on a scene from *this* show, but their combined performance really sold the weight of the scene.
It got me again in the last episode with >!his reaction to hearing his wife casually suggest ending the world. I thought maybe he was too high profile for a show like this but no, he was perfect.!<
Cecil is one of the best proof of his talent. A lot of actors you think they’re great and then see them in a very different role and yet the acting doesn’t really differ. And with voice acting often when it’s a mainstream actor they just use their normal voice and that’s it.
But Goggins is different in every role, and that’s true with Invincible too. I heard him in interviews these past few days and at no point I recognized Cecil’s voice
There is one specific scene in fallout where you 100% hear Cecil (I think it’s around the point where he’s talking to Matt berry) and it was cool to actually see the area of his voice he’s using in comparison to how he usually sounds
A big part for Invincible is he understands that voice acting is an entirely different sort of acting. It's as different as stage is from screen. Many regular actors don't do a very good job with it, because they're used to having their whole body to act with, and in VA you only get to use your voice. That's probably why he changes it a lot.
I'm usually very very good at recognizing voices in anything but yeah I had to look it up the other day cause I didn't believe it, totally different tone.
We kinda have to right, he’s going looking for his family to I assume new vegas, and there’s still so much to learn from the events after him listening in. Especially as that bombshell of who nuked is something I was never aware of in the games although at times did wonder.
We actually still don't know if it really was them. Cooper still seeming shocked when the bombs fell while doing a birthday party show with his daughter doesn't make sense if he already knew it was coming. Which makes me think we're going to see him do something that makes him think he stopped it, even though it kills his career and marriage
He thought it was coming but he didn't know when. It sounds like he left his wife, hence why he was doing birthday parties for pocket change and no babysitter for his daughter.
That's why he didn't want to do the thumbs up. He broke it off with Vault-Tec, and with the nuclear tensions it wasn't appropriate.
>We actually still don't know if it really was them.
I think it's basically the series McGuffin.
The point is that in the end, it doesn't matter who pulled the trigger.
I do think that the fact that his daughter was with him indicates his wife wasn't directly involved, otherwise she would have had her in the vault with her.
... and Imma gonna predict that the Vault 33 overseer is the daughter, having been cryogenically frozen under an assumed name.
Think they were all members of Bud's Buds and wanting new management skills. I think the wife was higher up and wanted a better vault. Impression I got.
I still don't get what happened to vault 32 though. I get they probably found out about 31, but that doesn't explain the mass suicides. And who even cleaned it up? Since there's not really that many awake 31 dwellers
What happened is actually hinted at when Norm and Chet go to explore 32. Remember that projector playing a reel about the mice or rats? That's what happened to 32 in a way. They learned that 31 was not like their Vault, that 32 and 33 were part of a bigger experiment and they soon broke down and started infighting, whether it be over the truth or the lack of food due to the supposed blight and then there was of course the Raiders who invaded too. Vault 32 was never meant to find out about Vault 31's true purpose but they did and it completely shook them to their core.
It's a pretty solid implementation of Vault-Tec's dark background. Most of the Vaults are nothing but experiments. Vault 31 is somewhat similar to Vault 111 from Fallout 4 in that they both have cryogenically frozen people, just for different purposes. There's only a few control Vaults where nothing bad happened to the residents like Vault 76 in Fallout 76.
Vault 31, 32 and 33 is arguably one of the least disturbing experiments of the lot because there is some REALLY fucked up ones. Then there's Vault 69 where they naturally made it a sex thing-Vault 68 and 69 had the same population numbers but genders were flipped. 1 man and 99 women/1 woman and 99 men. Not joking.
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> The point is that in the end, it doesn't matter who pulled the trigger.
That's a point made in the games. I remember in *Fallout 2* the opening narrator says something like "details are trivial and pointless." Even if there is a definitive answer, it doesn't change a damn thing in the wasteland, since knowing that it was/wasn't specifically your ancestor's fault doesn't make the wasteland any less wastelandy.
Obviously it *would* matter for the Ghoul and Lucy due to their personal connections to the war and its possible perpetrators, but to the average wastelander it doesn't matter one bit.
The nuclear scene itself was kinda horrifying.
>!You see the first bomb, and you think "Oh no they dropped -a- bomb. Then you see more and more and realize it's something much, much worse. If you're someone of a certain age, you realize the fear.!<
The only part that bothered me was the shockwave blowing out the windows, while the people standing behind and in front of the windows were barely effected.
While watching that scene it was probably the first time since I was a little kid I started yelling “run! Go! Run! Run!” I’m in my 40’s and I couldn’t stop myself. She was convincing and made the scene so much dire.
Dude he totally channeled Baby Billy when he said “Well, now that is a very small drop in a very, very large bucket of drugs.”
It made me laugh to imagine Baby Billy as a ghoul in Fallout.
has the guy ever done a bad job? Dont recall seeing it. He was the best part of Dreamin Wild with only a fairly small part.
Theres just something wholly natural, warm and believable about him.
Walton Goggins might be the greatest character actor on television right now (and one of the greats on film too). He elevates any project literally just by showing up.
His performance as Shane during the final season of FX’s *The Shield* haunts me to this day. His recurring appearances on *Sons of Anarchy* were hilarious (but somehow sincere?).
Even under layers of “we have Red Skull at home” prosthetics, Goggins delivers such an expressive physical performance in *Fallout* (a series I have mixed feelings about, but for the most part impresses). I wish he had more screen time during the show’s “present”—but his flashback sequences are some of the show’s strongest.
edit: Another comment reminded me of his role in *Righteous Gemstones*. “Uncle Baby Billy’s Bible Bonkers” will forever remain iconic.
He was awesome in Vice Principles. Oh, and definitely one of my favorites in Predators. Honestly, he has been really good in everything he's done. Like he's so good, I would watch a movie where he plays an accountant doing people's taxes. Like no comedy, drama, or anything, just him as a tax accountant, doing accountant things. I feel like somehow, he would make it great.
"well damn my eyes, this 1099 before me is lacking a certain.... Luster. Mister Simmons are you aware of the precise nature of deductions you're leaving laying in the table like an abandoned calf? Why these deductions are calling for their momma in the form of itemized expenditures."
Yeah I'd watch it.
I feel The Unicorn 🦄 (sitcom) showed his range and softer side.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Unicorn_(TV_series)#:~:text=It%20stars%20Walton%20Goggins%20along,was%20canceled%20after%20two%20seasons.
I love his daughter's question when staring at a mushroom cloud.
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"Is it your thumb or mine?".
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This kid understands the situation and is using logic to assess if she's mistaken before being taken over by fear.
Haven’t seen fallout yet, will start this week. But he’s a dude you can always enjoy.
Boyd Crowder kicked him off on a good trajectory for very good reason.
Watching him and Raylan Givens in their dialogue tangos is a pleasure I’ve rarely seen in TV shows.
Guy is amazing. The Shield is top 5 tv show for me, with the best finale of all time. He’s brilliant in Justified as well. His cameo in Sons of Anarchy is ….. something!
he's always great, the 300th posts about him in the last three days confirm that
on a side note, Fallout might be the best looking series Amazon has put out, in terms of image quality at least. It has none of the issues I've noticed with Reacher or Mrs Maisel or Bosch, like awful grading, way too dark, washed out colours giving them a lifeless look. This looks crisp, clean, every detail visible a mile away, lighting is phenomenal, colours pop out like in a goddamn Nintendo game and contrast is practically perfect. Not sure if it's my new tv or else, but watching it is a real treat for the eyes
It is refreshing to see him play a normal/nice person at times, as he seems to always be the typecast villain. But his acting was incredible, along with everyone else to be honest, and the show was awesome.
I love how he plays the part so humbly. A big star reduced to doing birthday parties. So much pain and dignity in that scene. A father who loves his daughter.
He plays the “good man who becomes a monster” archetype masterfully. You utterly believe him at both eras of his life.
“You will have to adapt. Question is, will you still want the same things when you have become a different animal altogether?”
Oh shit... >!he DID still want the same thing! !<
Some thoughts eill haunt you forever if you dont find out answers after walking paths for them. Its like being insane but enjoying it.
His line near the end really brings it home.
I really felt it when he said, “war never changes.” And a close second was when he first showed up as a ghoul and said, “it’s falloutin time.”
“What are we? Some kind of Fallout(tm) Amazon Prime original?”
Feo, fuerte, y formal.
I'll give you 2 out of 3.
Honestly the entire build up to the bomb dropping was incredible, from the way they would cut to the wide background shot and interspersed the flash of the dad taking the photos it just built up really well great sense of tension
I love how you’re getting little hints of how bad shit has gotten like the weather man melting down on air. It really added to the sense of dread. The show is brilliant so far.
Also no clue on the president's whereabouts. He hightailed it
Check the oil rig!
Yes! The sort of breadcrumbs of oh shit they are literally right on the brink and then you realize that it’s coming and even just the refusal to give the thumbs up it was masterfully done
The weather man was an incredible touch.
I like that this is the way they handled every "going to shit" scene and the plot twists in the first season. They don't surprise you with big shocks, they slowly build tension and dread with enough hints that *maybe* you guess what's gonna happen, but you *definitely* know something is gonna go terribly wrong. Maybe I'm just too used to bad/cheap writing but it felt like a breath of fresh air.
This is a great scene to rewatch when you finish the show. I immediately went for a rewatch and man oh man this scene hits so different when you know the whole story of Cooper.
The line about him >!not wanting to do the thumbs up pose!< has so much depth to it when rewatching.
That plus >!paying alimony!< take on a lot more significance on a rewatch
I know what I'm doing tomorrow then. Finished episode 6 this morning. Absolutely love the show and also just re-downloaded Fallout 4. So excited to have uranium fever again!
Since you've got Prime be sure to claim the free Fallout games they're giving out on Prime Gaming. Fallout 76 is well worth grabbing for the price, it's basically Fallout 4 with a worse plot, better map, and multiplayer.
Its kinda wild hearing people say something good about Fallout 76...
It ain't without its flaws still - some rather glaring flaws - but they've actually done a lot of work on the game over the years. It's much different than the buggy, half-assed contradictory mess it was on launch. Legitimately a fun game now, at least if you liked Fallout 4. If nothing else, worst case you lose nothing but time trying it out.
I went straight for Fallout 3. Did you know that game is fifteen fucking years old JFC It's old enough to get kicked out of home for being a smart ass. Anyway Fallout 3 is a retro game now and it certainly feels... A lil janky
That's unfortunate. I played so much 3 back in the day. Chinese stealth suit for the win!
Oh it's still enjoyable and a lot of fun, the charm is all there. It's just like... When you chat to an NPC... Or try and do FPS stuff... It's rough lol
Same here! Just reinstalled, waiting for the PS5 patch on April 25th
Yeah I hadn't planned to watch it back to back but wanted to see this scene again and then kept going, the second time through understanding everyone's motives has been more interesting than expected.
Yes! And the actress who played his daughter was so good. When she said, "My thumb, or yours?" when she saw the bomb was so well done.
That line was absolutely heartbreaking, a great performance, also seen the cloud begin to form in the reflection and you just know it’s way to close to matter
She was so good in that scene! It's a small bit, but damn does she sell it well.
That's when I was 100% hooked
First time I watched it, it actually unnerved me. Such a well done scene, terrifying if you get immersed
It was unnerving! I think because as the audience, there was no spoiler that the nuclear apocalypse was about to happen. The characters we watched were tense and scared about the possibility, but wanted to be optimistic. The anticipation for the explosion was built up very well. I thought for sure every wide shot of the city would flash and mushroom cloud, but the scene kept building with a great world building experience before the inevitable finally happened.
I guess as one who has played some of the games, I knew the war happens, and so I was expecting it in or around this scene. I did think they did a great job with a variety of realistic reactions all in that span of a minute or so, and the previous minutes leading up to it how they all were handling daily life under the threat of annihilation. I also loved the spot where Lucy emerges and sees the wreckage from hundreds of years ago, kinda like Pompeii. I love Fallout because of how it explores a topic that is so existentially terrifying, and has a lot of little thought experiments on the logical conclusion of many aspects of our society. I only watched episode 1 so far, but man, chilling stuff. I think this is going to be a ride.
It's absolutely fantastic.
Although I don't understand how no one in the background noticed an unbelievably bright flash of light right behind them, they just carried on watching that tv.
Realistically everyone should have noticed and Cooper's daughter should have been blinded by the initial flash. But on the other hand it's Fallout. The series leans heavily on the 1950s and that includes 50s ideas about nuclear war that make it sound much more survivable than it actually would be. Sure it's not realistic but it was never trying to be so I'll give it a pass.
I love how both realistic the guns are, knifes and bullets will kill pretty easily, but medicine will also basically repair anyone anytime for whatever plot point. It's a lovely video game feel.
obviously it's what people in the 1950s thought medicine would be in 2077
Considering the camera bulb flashes in the lead up, they may have subconsciously thought it was just a camera flashing again somewhere in the house.
Because the father had been taking pictures using his flash just before it. They were desensitised to sudden flashes (even though the fatal flash was much brighter).
Yeah. I noticed and enjoyed this run up to destruction as well. It was very well done for those who knew what comes next (probably most of us) and it gave a clear indication of what was coming to someone who didn't (my wife... Don't judge her harshly).
I love that the managed to find a way to continue the Walton Goggins is a cowboy trope
Its not even typcasting, he just has the most cowboy name I have ever heard
Not even cowboy. Just… a Walton Goggins. Like you could tell someone to picture a man named Walton Goggins. Now don’t alter that image at all. And they will have absolutely pictured the most Walton Goggins looking son of a gun imaginable: Walton Goggins.
Someone call Timothy Olyphant!
Mr. Goggins is a national treasure. The man crushes anything he’s in. I’m hoping he keeps getting more and more high profile gigs.
He was incredible in the Hateful Eight. Absolute home run.
He’s Shane Vendrell first….but man Uncle Baby Billy is amazing
I feel like he's channeling Mannix when he gets murderous in the show, I love it.
First thing I saw him in, and then Gemstones and Vice Principals. Now he is an actor I will always be happy to see.
Justified is where it all really started for Goggins. I encourage you to check out that show because Boyd Crowder is an amazing, morally ambiguous character. Edit: forgot about the Shield
Morally ambiguous??? Sir, you can certainly argue he's a likeable villain, and I would completely agree, but there's no way he's morally ambiguous. He is an outright ruthless murderer.
You mean The Shield, right? Before Justified and he was awesome as a sleazy corrupt cop for all 7 seasons.
He was in sons of anarchy too
*Tig has entered the chat*
ABsolutely KILLED It in the shield
Justified is where he got to shine, but a lot of that core darkness in Boyd Crowder was perfected with Shane Vendrell in The Shield. By the end of that show I was watching it as much for Shane as I was for Vic Mackey.
Yeah he's a perfect foil/frenemy to Danny McBride. I'd be happy if everything either of them do from now was required to have the other guy in it. He's 100% the reason I binged Fallout this weekend.
Also in Django Unchained! Listening to him speak made me physically ill, which just means he did a great job with that POS character.
I absolutely loved his character in the Shield.
His portrayal of Shane is IMO one of the best pieces of acting you’ll ever see. I wish more people watched the shield
The shield is a top 5 all time great show start to finish. The last scene from the series ender is jaw droppingly great. Its stupid how great that show is.
It belongs in the discussion with the sopranos the wire breaking bad etc
This. That show was mostly Goggins, Michael Chiklis, and CCH Pounder putting on a clinic. The acting was so freaking good!
this series and his performance there doesnt get the credit it deserves
Nobody gives away sperm like he does.
SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTS!!!!!
VICE PRINCIPALS.
He's phenomenal as Baby Billy in The Righteous Gemstones
That’s UNCLE Baby Billy to you!
I cannot wait until he appears in The White Lotus. I hope he carries the torch of wildness that Jennifer Coolidge had
If you want to see something VERY different from him, check out his run of episodes on Sons of Anarchy. When he first appears, my fear was that the character of Venus Van Dam was going to be played as a goof, but he plays it 100% serious, and quickly creates a well-rounded sympathetic character.
My wife has no interest in video games of the Falout w9rld, but we both love Walton Goggins. I convinced her to try this series based on him being in it. She's SO HAPPY that she did. She loves this show as much as I do.
and to think he was originally a toilet baby
That there was ya Aunt Tiffany. Get ya fact straights. Uncle Baby Billy here is a um prestigious man with genuine origins.
You ain't my fuckin daddy
Goggins is one of those actors who seems to fly under the radar but is brilliant in pretty much everything he's in.
Him in Justified is just outfuckingrageous. Olyphant nailed most scenes, but then Goggins just showed up with more cowbell.
I've never seen Justified. Is it still worth a look given its age?
Unbelievably so. Far, far better than it deserves to be, and it ages beautifully.
Seasons one and two of Justified are god-tier
"You might be a *criminal,* but I am an **outlaw.**"
I think I only watched the first season of Justified, but when I think of the show, I think of Boyd Crowder and I have to think a bit about it to remember the name of the protagonist.
Why Ray-lan Givens, while I live and breathe!
"God I love you. Always using thirty words when three would do."
His Baby Billy is one of the funniest characters I’ve ever seen on TV
He is the best thing in Righteous Gemstones. Uncle Baby Billy Freeman is hilarious.
Goggins is great in Fallout. His character is a fun anti-hero. I really like the girl who plays Lucy. The guy that plays Maximus is ok but sort of dry.
Brotherhood of steel is dry
Ive also started subscribing to the idea Maximus is running with 1 in charisma.
There was a post from earlier today about how he is using the Idiot Savant perk lol
In episode 6, his delivery of: >!These are called oysters. You want one? They make you feel so good. You want to make my cock explode now?!< very much reinforces this "Charisma 1" theory.
I laughed so hard at that line that I woke up my wife. She wasn't very amused.
My wife and I have concluded that Maximus is a 10 Luck, 1 Charisma, 3-4 Intelligence build.
That's actually a pretty fun idea, trying to figure out each character's SPECIAL stats
[They were added to Fallout Shelter to promote the show,](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout_Shelter_characters) so I guess we have their “canon” SPECIAL from that. Notably, Maximus and The Ghoul both have 4 Intelligence, making them a point away from a low-int playthrough.
No way I'd ever give Max and The Ghoul the same intelligence. Ghoul is easily at least 6 or 7
Yeah, idk, it makes sense for the Ghoul to me, but I think it should be a 5 for "default" smarts. Within the game mechanics "intelligence" is more about book smarts. Cooper is clever and witty and can think on his feet, but he's not a *tech* guy. He's just not actievly stupid. Maximus is often straight up just a dipshit so he should be like... 2? Bless him.
That plus perks and traits, yeah. We've been doing that the whole time we've been watching, per my wife's quip that the show is basically showing us multiple builds/playthroughs in one go. It is indeed pretty fun... plus it's giving both of us ideas for future playthroughs of several of the games.
The Ghoul is definitely running a VATS build with high charisma and the bloody mess perk
> bloody mess perk Hah, yeah, we both concluded the same after the first episode. The head explosion effect from the first guy he kills with a headshot is almost a 1:1 of the Bloody Mess headshot kill animation from FO3/FNV. Not sure if he's got Toughness or Rad Child but he sure seems unconcerned about taking damage, too.
And "finesse". What he does is very much the combination of "finesse" and "bloody mess".
Really want to play a lone wolf ghoul like Cooper Howard now... if only you could make a Ghoul character. Maybe Fo5 will have some sort of quest that turns you into a ghoul similar to Werewolf in Skyrin.
People have been asking for a way to become a Ghoul since... Fallout 1 I think. There are tons of mods for the modern games to enable that (I even made one). Bethesda *has* to know how bad people want it by now, so I really hope they'll include it in Fallout 5.
Also 1 in intelligence with his bright idea of >!Confessing the truth to Thaddius!<
Nah, the idea was sound. But “Titus is dead, so we gotta get our story straight” sounds ominous af. He should’ve said “Titus ran from battle and was cut down by an irradiated Bear. I killed the bear, then took on the armor so I could finish the mission. Ad Victoriam!” or some such BS. Truly a 1 INT, 1 Charisma build.
Yeah, he doesn't even have to lie, just omit a few facts. And the giant claw marks only reinforce it further.
Literally just leave out the part where he had time to administer a stimpack. Like, honey you are *one* omission away from the perfect cover story.
I feel like the idea wasn't bad, but the execution was just god-awful. He handled it so poorly!
While possible, I thought he was actually just really fucking dumb lol. How the hell do you mix up a rotor and a circuit unless you're really really stupid?
[He's lucky that he's so strong](https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxCCj-nmhKW1lJQmvT0dqZvtKN1QFSYXrU?si=TlO0ZCEsHdyeCF_I)
All three have different builds, Lucy is the well rounded, high charisma/speech character, Maximus is the low IQ, high strength, power armor tank, and Goggins is the offensive gunslinger, bad guy playthrough. They fucking nailed this show!
Seriously. I don’t think any other game adaptation has so thoroughly implemented the games essence into a show while also just telling a damn good story in the new medium. It’s brilliant and layered and it’s really hitting the spot for me in this over saturated market.
Agreed, it blew my expectations out of the water, so much better than I thought it’d be. I can’t wait for Deathclaws to enter the show.
The show runners firmly understood what the Halo guys didn't - when you make a show with a passionate devoted fan base for the game it's based on, you have to love the game, and know that the people watching your show loved the games so much they are willing to watch a TV show about them. Make an adaptation for fans of the source material, and know that they will care about the tiny details. This show was made, or at least plays like it was made, by people who loved the source and nailed the aesthetic and details to ground the story.
I prefer to think of it as Goggins' character being on New Game+. He knows the whole wasteland already, has a history with everyone, and was dormant at the start of the show. He's the player coming back to their lvl 99 save just to fuck around
I also think they’re varying levels of morality (just like when playing the game). Lucy is like the wasteland savior, Cooper is like the wasteland pariah, and Maximus kind of straddles the line, not sure whether he wants to do a good karma or bad karma play through.
Maximus is like the *"I'm going to play as a good guy"* playthrough, but the game inevitably nudges you into killing a guy... so then you just kinda roll with it.
i kind of really liked maximus. he's sort of terrible at everything but wants to do good, and it makes him endearing
Yeah, I think he’s intentionally kind of a dumb baby (because he’s in the brotherhood and they’re all a little weird like that in the cult). I appreciate it, honestly, and I think people sell the actor short because they don’t get the character is intentional.
One of his earliest scenes is one of his strongest, the interrogation by the Elder. You can see the hopeless emotion in his face as the interrogation goes on, and then when he's asked to say something in his defense, he takes a while to steel his nerves and show his resolve of why he's in the brotherhood with genuine conviction, and then the nervous relief when he's promoted right after. It's a great scene and he sells it so well. It tells you everything you need to know about the character and it wouldn't work nearly as well if he wasn't as good of an actor.
Lucy is also Jinx in Arcane. Once you learn that you can’t unsee it.
The guy who plays Maximus is great at using facial expressions and his faltering voice to portray his emotions imo
He was great in the scene, but the actress playing his daughter blew me away as she watched the explosion - “is it my thumb or your thumb?”
Her shaking with fear. Great acting.
I was thinking "how is that kid acting so well".
Oh that’s easy, they set her down with the rest of the crew and actually nuked LA!
Oh my god yes! As a father this made me panick and feel so much empathy for those two. I really hope his daughter got to safety... but i can only imagine the worse...
I had to pause it after she says that and he turns around to see what she's looking at. I wasn't really expecting to get so hung up on a scene from *this* show, but their combined performance really sold the weight of the scene. It got me again in the last episode with >!his reaction to hearing his wife casually suggest ending the world. I thought maybe he was too high profile for a show like this but no, he was perfect.!<
Yup - she was very impressive, especially for a kid actor!
I said the same thing. Given how dodged kid actors can be I was blown away by how she sold the moment. She was incredible.
That guy is amazing, period. He can play a bottom-of-the-joke loser in a comedy and switch to a scary villain in a drama easily. Great range.
I too was a fan of his bit role in Community.
And here's your bottle of sperm. They managed to make the same punchline funny 6 times. The writing on that show was exquisite.
The fact that he's Cecil in Invincible always impresses me.
Cecil is one of the best proof of his talent. A lot of actors you think they’re great and then see them in a very different role and yet the acting doesn’t really differ. And with voice acting often when it’s a mainstream actor they just use their normal voice and that’s it. But Goggins is different in every role, and that’s true with Invincible too. I heard him in interviews these past few days and at no point I recognized Cecil’s voice
There is one specific scene in fallout where you 100% hear Cecil (I think it’s around the point where he’s talking to Matt berry) and it was cool to actually see the area of his voice he’s using in comparison to how he usually sounds
Now that I know this, I can hear it, but he is such a good actor.
A big part for Invincible is he understands that voice acting is an entirely different sort of acting. It's as different as stage is from screen. Many regular actors don't do a very good job with it, because they're used to having their whole body to act with, and in VA you only get to use your voice. That's probably why he changes it a lot.
>Here's your sperm Estate Lawyer in Community
Walton's getting that Amazon money. Good for him!
Seriously? Mind = blown
I'm usually very very good at recognizing voices in anything but yeah I had to look it up the other day cause I didn't believe it, totally different tone.
He's amazing is Fallout. I hope we get alot more backstory in S2.
We kinda have to right, he’s going looking for his family to I assume new vegas, and there’s still so much to learn from the events after him listening in. Especially as that bombshell of who nuked is something I was never aware of in the games although at times did wonder.
We actually still don't know if it really was them. Cooper still seeming shocked when the bombs fell while doing a birthday party show with his daughter doesn't make sense if he already knew it was coming. Which makes me think we're going to see him do something that makes him think he stopped it, even though it kills his career and marriage
He thought it was coming but he didn't know when. It sounds like he left his wife, hence why he was doing birthday parties for pocket change and no babysitter for his daughter. That's why he didn't want to do the thumbs up. He broke it off with Vault-Tec, and with the nuclear tensions it wasn't appropriate.
>We actually still don't know if it really was them. I think it's basically the series McGuffin. The point is that in the end, it doesn't matter who pulled the trigger. I do think that the fact that his daughter was with him indicates his wife wasn't directly involved, otherwise she would have had her in the vault with her. ... and Imma gonna predict that the Vault 33 overseer is the daughter, having been cryogenically frozen under an assumed name.
Nah betty was hank’s secretary in the flashback scene
Derp, well I missed that! I stand corrected, but it would make sense that his family was frozen in vault 31, given his ex wife was an executive
Think they were all members of Bud's Buds and wanting new management skills. I think the wife was higher up and wanted a better vault. Impression I got.
The 33 overseer was the secretary in the scene where Coop listens in on the board conversation
I still don't get what happened to vault 32 though. I get they probably found out about 31, but that doesn't explain the mass suicides. And who even cleaned it up? Since there's not really that many awake 31 dwellers
Haha, since there was grain blight they could have contracted ergotism and gone mad. Someone had to survive to show the raiders how everything worked
What happened is actually hinted at when Norm and Chet go to explore 32. Remember that projector playing a reel about the mice or rats? That's what happened to 32 in a way. They learned that 31 was not like their Vault, that 32 and 33 were part of a bigger experiment and they soon broke down and started infighting, whether it be over the truth or the lack of food due to the supposed blight and then there was of course the Raiders who invaded too. Vault 32 was never meant to find out about Vault 31's true purpose but they did and it completely shook them to their core. It's a pretty solid implementation of Vault-Tec's dark background. Most of the Vaults are nothing but experiments. Vault 31 is somewhat similar to Vault 111 from Fallout 4 in that they both have cryogenically frozen people, just for different purposes. There's only a few control Vaults where nothing bad happened to the residents like Vault 76 in Fallout 76. Vault 31, 32 and 33 is arguably one of the least disturbing experiments of the lot because there is some REALLY fucked up ones. Then there's Vault 69 where they naturally made it a sex thing-Vault 68 and 69 had the same population numbers but genders were flipped. 1 man and 99 women/1 woman and 99 men. Not joking.
> > > The point is that in the end, it doesn't matter who pulled the trigger. That's a point made in the games. I remember in *Fallout 2* the opening narrator says something like "details are trivial and pointless." Even if there is a definitive answer, it doesn't change a damn thing in the wasteland, since knowing that it was/wasn't specifically your ancestor's fault doesn't make the wasteland any less wastelandy. Obviously it *would* matter for the Ghoul and Lucy due to their personal connections to the war and its possible perpetrators, but to the average wastelander it doesn't matter one bit.
The nuclear scene itself was kinda horrifying. >!You see the first bomb, and you think "Oh no they dropped -a- bomb. Then you see more and more and realize it's something much, much worse. If you're someone of a certain age, you realize the fear.!<
The only part that bothered me was the shockwave blowing out the windows, while the people standing behind and in front of the windows were barely effected.
Have to rewatch him in The Shield
He was great in Justified as well. The shield was the first thing I'd seen him in though. I need a rewatch of that series actually.
The kid actress who portrays his daughter killed it too. Especially with the thumb. True disbelief and shock
While watching that scene it was probably the first time since I was a little kid I started yelling “run! Go! Run! Run!” I’m in my 40’s and I couldn’t stop myself. She was convincing and made the scene so much dire.
For you, my acting in the nuclear scene in Fallout was amazing. For me, it was a Tuesday - Walton Goggins (probably)
I thought it would be hard for him to top his role as Uncle Baby Billy but damn
Dude he totally channeled Baby Billy when he said “Well, now that is a very small drop in a very, very large bucket of drugs.” It made me laugh to imagine Baby Billy as a ghoul in Fallout.
I dunno Lee Russell was pretty loveable
has the guy ever done a bad job? Dont recall seeing it. He was the best part of Dreamin Wild with only a fairly small part. Theres just something wholly natural, warm and believable about him.
Walton Goggins might be the greatest character actor on television right now (and one of the greats on film too). He elevates any project literally just by showing up. His performance as Shane during the final season of FX’s *The Shield* haunts me to this day. His recurring appearances on *Sons of Anarchy* were hilarious (but somehow sincere?). Even under layers of “we have Red Skull at home” prosthetics, Goggins delivers such an expressive physical performance in *Fallout* (a series I have mixed feelings about, but for the most part impresses). I wish he had more screen time during the show’s “present”—but his flashback sequences are some of the show’s strongest. edit: Another comment reminded me of his role in *Righteous Gemstones*. “Uncle Baby Billy’s Bible Bonkers” will forever remain iconic.
He's great in the gemstones
Uncle Baby Billy gonna make it, you best believe that
He was awesome in Vice Principles. Oh, and definitely one of my favorites in Predators. Honestly, he has been really good in everything he's done. Like he's so good, I would watch a movie where he plays an accountant doing people's taxes. Like no comedy, drama, or anything, just him as a tax accountant, doing accountant things. I feel like somehow, he would make it great.
"well damn my eyes, this 1099 before me is lacking a certain.... Luster. Mister Simmons are you aware of the precise nature of deductions you're leaving laying in the table like an abandoned calf? Why these deductions are calling for their momma in the form of itemized expenditures." Yeah I'd watch it.
This role made me realize how much I want him to play Roland in the Mike Flanagan gunslinger adaptation.
He would be great as The man in black as well. Was he named Martell?
Jesus he would be terrifying as the Man in Black, and McConaughey was the only decent part of that anyway.
I feel The Unicorn 🦄 (sitcom) showed his range and softer side. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Unicorn_(TV_series)#:~:text=It%20stars%20Walton%20Goggins%20along,was%20canceled%20after%20two%20seasons.
Unicorn was great and should not have gotten the ax. Way better than most sitcoms we are getting nowadays.
This entire man stole the entire show it’s insane. Every scene he was in had me completely locked in
He's stolen a lot of shows, it's kind of his thing.
His work in the season finale was insanely good acting. Iconic character already
Goggins is amazing as always. The nuke scene gave my gf legit anxiety (we live near DC)
Growing up during the Cold War is why I’m glad to live nowhere near a major target.
I’ve had nightmares like that. It definitely gave me anxiety.
Everybody needs some Walton Goggins in their lives
I love his daughter's question when staring at a mushroom cloud. - "Is it your thumb or mine?". - This kid understands the situation and is using logic to assess if she's mistaken before being taken over by fear.
Haven’t seen fallout yet, will start this week. But he’s a dude you can always enjoy. Boyd Crowder kicked him off on a good trajectory for very good reason. Watching him and Raylan Givens in their dialogue tangos is a pleasure I’ve rarely seen in TV shows.
I fucking loved him in Justified, any time Boyd popped up I was instantly like "yesssssss another Boyd scene!"
Goggins is on fire in the show, so is the girl who plays his wife (Frances Turner) there are no dogs in the vaults
The show is fantastic. I thought fallout would be an impossible task, but they nailed it.
He is amazing in everything I’ve seen him, he even shone whilst surrounded by massive stars in a Tarantino movie, he’s great
I love hearing his Uncle Baby Billy accent in another context.
Guy is amazing. The Shield is top 5 tv show for me, with the best finale of all time. He’s brilliant in Justified as well. His cameo in Sons of Anarchy is ….. something!
he's always great, the 300th posts about him in the last three days confirm that on a side note, Fallout might be the best looking series Amazon has put out, in terms of image quality at least. It has none of the issues I've noticed with Reacher or Mrs Maisel or Bosch, like awful grading, way too dark, washed out colours giving them a lifeless look. This looks crisp, clean, every detail visible a mile away, lighting is phenomenal, colours pop out like in a goddamn Nintendo game and contrast is practically perfect. Not sure if it's my new tv or else, but watching it is a real treat for the eyes
It is refreshing to see him play a normal/nice person at times, as he seems to always be the typecast villain. But his acting was incredible, along with everyone else to be honest, and the show was awesome.
I also really loved the girls delivery asking about whose thumb it was that mattered, great sound of fear in her voice.
God that was such a good scene which then led into the complete opposite in such an entertaining way