We all know all edgy weapons are the ones with edges.

Well, at the highest level of detail and and using unoptimized models, it looks like the festive minigun has he highest number of polygon and therefore the most edges. https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Model_optimization

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This brought a smile to my face in an otherwise shitty day. Thank you.

This depends on your definition of edge though, as two triangles could either have 5 edges or 6 edges, as if you have them “touch”, model optimizations might make it so the two overlapping edges only count as one. I think it isn’t a significant enough factor to worry about, but could theoretically change the number of edges enough to skew the results.

this info makes me edge

Scout: Probably just the default scattergun Sniper: Bazaar Bargain or Jarate+ Bushwacka Spy: Kunai Heavy: Tomislav Soldier: Direct Hit i guess Pyro: Degreaser Medic: Vaccinator Engi: Short Circuit on PL offense, Wrangler otherwise. Demo: Default Sticky Launcher

I disagree with the direct hit. Almost every tryhard soldier who takes the game way too seriously and is a god at rocket jumping ALWAYS uses the Original.

I'd say tryhards use stock more than the Original just cuz stock has way more fancy options, and once you've become a rocket jump god you don't really need the small boost to rocket jumping the original gives. That being said I can see where you're coming from and I may just be defensive cuz I usually use the Original over stock.

usually those rocket jump gods actually end up being fairly chill (with exceptions). When I think of edgy/try hard, I think of that growing period where they are good enough to know they’re good, but still inexperienced enough to think they are much better than they are. And the original fits that bill perfectly.

They'll probably be running an australium or a festive stock over the original.

of course, if you add the sydney sleeper to the jarate + bushwacka combo, it no longer becomes edgy/tryhard. and becomes funny piss sniper!

Razorback, shiv, sleeper is objectively the funniest sniper loadout

I've seen way more people tryhard with the Beggar's than anything.

Because it’s just awesome! My favorite weapon

Add the base kukri melee for sniper, and the ubersaw; when equipped, they remove the user's sense of fear, and grant them 101% crit chance upon hitting their enemies.

I think deadringer is worse than kunai (but really Its the Combo)

I agree with all of them except for the jarate + bushwacka as I think it's just a funny weapon combo. Though it is good, it's not trying hard exclusive as it doesn't require a whole lot of skill to throw some piss and hit left click with your melee.

The degreaser is just a faster but weaker side-grade to the stock flamethrower real tryhards use the phlog + scorch shit combo

people who want to win don't tend to use the phlogshot combo most of the time, I've seen them use the degreaser+flare gun or stock+flare gun most phlogshot pyros want to be annoying or make the other team angry rather than win

It still works to easily push tho, kills shit fast and scorch shit makes people mad

Can confirm, as a stock/flare pyro main

Phlog scorch shot is unga not tryhard. It's annoying and can be very effective, but skilled players can shut it down pretty easily. Degreaser is generally seen as one of pyros better primary's because the faster switch speed allows easier comboing and means you can air blast at pretty much any point no matter what weapon you're holding.

I thought all scunts are required to use the FaN?

That's an mvm-only tool for me

That moment when you realized you're an edgy /tryhard without realizing you're an edgy/try-hard until now.

I use vacc bc I think it's fun

I think heavies most tryhard unlock is the shotgun, not healing teammates.

Barely any Heavies use shotguns unless they’re Fat Scouting though, I would say the tryhard secondary is the Banana(they will never share it with teammates).

Nah, YER is 100x more try hard

YER is basically a joke weapon.

Ngl they should just buff YER to fully restore cloak on kill + buff move speed while cloaked They won’t But YER is funny when it works

I think loch and load for demo maybe?

switch bazaar bargain to awp and we good

Imo phlog is the pyro tryhard weapon.

I'd argue with tomislav cus I've noticed more tryhards use stock

Scattergun and Soda Popper are the only reliably good scout primaries

I agree as a soda popper main

scout: FaN because fuck you sniper: is machina spy: add ambi heavy has no edgy weapons soldier: classic pyro: phlog and scorch shit medic: add blutsauger engi: gunslinger demo: loch and load, quickiebomb

Boi, you did NOT just call my fave the scorch shit....

its a common nickname.

this list sucks scout: FAN + cleaver + wrap assassin pyro: degreaser + detonator + powerjack soldier: original + gunboats + gardener / escape plan, depending on map demoman: all stock heavy: stock + food for pocket + steel fists engineer: frontier justice, pistol, gunslinger medic: crossbow + kritz + ubersaw sniper: all stock spy: ambassador + kunai + ringer

Dunno if every class, but I know for soldier it’s the original + gunboats. Everytime I see one, they’re tryharding the fuck out of the match.

Scout: Stock Scatter Soldier: Original Pyro: Degreaser Demoman: Stock Sticky Heavy: Tomislav Engineer: Wrangler Medic: Stock Medi Gun Spy: Ambassador/Kunai/Deadringer Sniper: Bazaar/Bushwacka/Jarate

Why does everyone say weapons I use

I use degreaser on pyro, ambassador on spy, tomislav on heavy all because they're weapons I like

Jeez it was only ambi for me

Plog :(

Is horrible unless you have an uber up your ass

Before I even got TF2 I watched all the Lazypurple and other thinngs on the Phlog. So when I first got it, I kept running from fights I could have won. Def edgy.

When do people realize this. When ever i use phlog, if a medic tries to uber me with it, I instantly stop attacking and just stare at the medic. It is against my morals to use phlog uber. Sorry med.

And it´s against everyone else morals to waste an uber.

Unfathomably based. I hate phlogg+ scorch shit combo with my whole soul.

does this only apply to stock

I'm a phlogg fan but I do have to agree with you on not taking the easy way with uber

not the Plog

Plog :(

A persons personality and playstyle are what determine “edginess” or being a “tryhard” Not their weapons or cosmetics

no one is being a tryhard wit the stock fireaxe

challenge accepted

please stream it

i might make a clip comp but thats about it

Please define what a tryhard is. Is it someone that’s just better than you? Or is it someone super toxic and annoying? Because I’m pretty sure you can achieve the latter with the fire axe

awper hand

I just realized it’s a pun for “upper hand”

The original the original the original The original the original the original The original the original the original The original the original the original The original the original the original

fuck everyone who uses the original

i hsve one named industrial strength dildo.

Good name

Edgy? What are you on about? There’s only hehe funny Ragdolls.

Scout:Force a nature Soldier:Direct hit or Original Pyro:Degreaser OR Phlog Demo:Iron bomber and Quicky launcher Heavy: T O M I S L A V E Engineer: Frointer justice and gunslinger Medic: i dunno maybe kritz? Sniper: Bushwacka and AWPer hand Spy: Ringer , Kunai and Ambi

Based on my opinion: Scout: Force a Nature Soldier: Original Pyro: Scorch shot maybe? I don't know Demoman: Iron Bomber Heavy: Natascha Engineer: I don't know, maybe the Wrangler? Medic: Ubersaw Sniper: The Classic, Jarate and Bushwacka (I am biased here because a good enough Sniper is just so annoying to play against) Spy: Conniver's Kunai Again, these are just my opinions

Every single medic that isn't a fresh install uses the ubersaw, tryhards or not

I use the solemn vow

You dont exist.

I use amputater

tryhsrd meds be like: valve should add aoe healing medigub!! my brother in christ, you have the amputator!

I know I don't taunt with it bc I haven't felt the need too but still

Fr, the actual tryhard weapon should be kritz/vacc

It’s 100% the Vax

TBF kritz is definitely more tryhard if the medick is pocketing a soldier or sticky bomb demo

I use the amputator

Me too, too many times I died from the afterburn because there were no teammates to put out the fire 💀

Yea true you are correct ... Anyways let me just change my medic loadout ill be back (i honestly dont like ubersaw if not in mvm because its the only place my enemies are more stupid than me

you could add the ambassador to spy

Maybe the old Ambassador, now it's Diamondback.

with one of them you have to aim while the other lets you do whatever you want

diamond back doesn't have damage falloff

(On crits)

Pyro is scorch shot phlog.

Noobs use the Phlog

Yeah, because most noobs don't really use airblast, so to them, the phlog is basically a straight upgrade

tryhards do if they got a pocket med

i'd switch original for dh and wrangler for frontier justice

omg im unkle dan cuz me use fwontir jawstice hahah critssss

Nah force a nature scouts are assholes, but if they are legitimately tryharding, it’s always stock or soda popper

(in order of class appearence) -The fucking ornament firing melee -Direct Hit -axtinguisher(bonus points if aussie) -eyelander/Loose cannon -natascha -mini sentry fuck hand -Crossbow -FUCK the machina -kunai

Loose cannon is a tryhard weapon?

Yes, it's aids to play against because just by being good at timing you make like 69k Damage (non crit)

Yes

The loose canon always seemed like a gimmick meme weapon to me

Yeah its a bit both sided

Crossbow? The crossbow is basically the ONLY primary medic has unless you just wanna gimp yourself for the meme. I'd say tryhards would use the syringe guns cause they think they can defend themselves with it.

As a german who is obligated to play medic 99.9% of my tf2 experience, the crossbow has some edgy sweat potential i would say... nobody sane uses syringe unless they're f2p or meming.

The warp assasin sucks lol, its just meme

I use it 1/3 of the time between that, Atomizer, and fish

For many cases it appears to be stock

scout: Force a Nature soldier: direct hit or original pyro: backburner demo: stock stickiy heavy: stock engie: frontier justice medic: vaccinator sniper: machina spy: Ambassdor

Backburner is try hard? I think degreaser is way more try hard. No one ever try hards with the backburner.

I'm leaning more toward edgy but you do have a point

Scout: FaN or maybe mad milk Soldier: def original/gunboats Pyro: degreaser Heavy: really no idea lol, tomislav ig Demo: quickybomb launcher or loose cannon Engie: frontier justice Medic: vaccinator/ubersaw Sniper: shooting star Spy: kunai/dead ringer ofc

Scout: Force a nature Soldier: direct hit or black box Pyro: degreaser, any flare gun and powerjack Demoman: iron bomber Heavy: tomislav Engineer: gunslinger Medic: crossbow Sniper: literaly all his weapons Spy: dead ringer and kunai

Heavy : Tomislav, Sandvich, Gloves of Running Urgently.

Hmmmm heavy is tomislav

Let's see from hats stereotypes....all of sniper hats

I think it has to be these: Scout : baby face's blaster Soldier: original Pyro: probably phlog Demoman: loch n load Heavy: tomislav Engineer: widowmaker Medic: either krtizkrieg or blutsager Sniper: stock rifle Spy: ambassador, kunai and dead ringer

Direct hit, kunai, awper

In my medicial opion the most tryhard weapon for pyro is the w+m if im right on the name

weapon?

awper hand for sniper

isn't machina used by most tryhard snipers? it can 1 shot almost anything since full body shot deals 173

i mostly saw tryhard snipers with the awper hand

For the Soldier it would be The Original. When you meet a Soldier that arrives The Original when he faces you in a 1vs1 you already know what type of person he is and the ability he has.

Scout: Force o Nature. Solider: Direct Hit. Pyro: Phlog. Demoman: Sticky Launcher. Heavy: Tomislav. Engineer: Frontier Justice. Sniper: Two for one, Jarate & Bushwacka. Spy: Kunai.

the holy mackerel

Boston basher/scout Direct hit/soldier Detonator/pyro Iron bomber/demo Brass beast/heavy Wrangler/engineer Vaccineator/medic Kunai+dead ringuer/spy Bazar bargain/sniper (I'm learning english and I don't now all the weapons names)

Scout: FaN Soldier: Black Box+conch or Original Demo: Iron Bomber, stock sticky launcher Pyro: Phlog+scorch shot Heavy: Tomislav Medic: idk but propably Blutsauger and Vax, Blutsauger is used by battle medics and vax is just toxic asf Engineer: Frontier, widowmaker Sniper: bazaar bargain Spy: kunai+deadringer

Force-a-nature Battalion's Backup Scorch Shot Stock Sticky Launcher Fists of Steel Wrangler Vaccinator Bazaar Bargain Conniver's Kunai

Idk about edgy, but try hard is ez. Scattergun, original, degreaser, iron bomber, tomislav, frontier justice, kritzkrieg, awper hand, kunai

My sniper looks exactly like this, except I have the fancy suit for him with the Australium paint.

Soldier: half zatoichi Demo: same as soldier Spy: any of his knives except for the spicile Pyro: fire axe Heavy: eviction notice Scout: skyrim sword Medic: ubersaw Sniper: default melee Engi: uhhhh, engi isn't really that edgy tbh

All bot killer weapons. They literally have skulls hanging from chains

Not edgy ones but the ones i hate because they require 0 skill Any sniper primary (except the huntsman) The natascha Black cocks and the cockeror

I'm a shotgun pyro. What does this say about me?

Depends on the shotgun: Stock/panic attack= old-school and reliable Reserve shooter= puff and sting try hard

Sniper is Machina for sure

Scout: Force-A-Nature Soldier: Original/Direct Hit Pyro: Phlogistinator Demo: Stickybomb Launcher Heavy: Tomislav/Sandvich/G.R.U Engineer: Windowmaker Medic: Stock/Crossbow/Ubersaw Sniper: AWPerhand or any botkiller (blood is the most common) Spy: Stock invis, Knife, Revolver Stock Spy is the best suited for making actual meaningful plays, but everyone stereotypes the Kunai Dead Ringer Spies as tryhard/edge lords.

Force-a-nature Direct hit Degreaser Iron bomber Tomislav Widowmaker Kritzkrieg Awper hand/bazaar bargain Ambi/kunai/dead ringer

Scout - Mad Milk (if that doesn't count, then maybe the FaN) Soldier - Black Box or Conch Pyro - Scorch Shit Demo - maybe Stock Stickies or Eyelander Heavy - Natasha Engi - Wrangler (yeah I know everyone's using this but there are some special nerds who know how to annoy people with this one) Medic - Ubersaw (the moment they see a light health class they will stop supporting their team and go on a hunting trip to get 25% more uber and end up dying) Sniper - Uhmmm I forgot the name so "The Shield of Go Fuck Yourself Pyro, Switch Classes" Spy - Kunai or Ambassador

Darwin's Danger Shield

Ambi dead ringer kunai

Stock?

The first thing that comes to mind when I think tryhard loadout is Fatmagic with no or only free Halloween cosmetics and skinless strange specialized killstreak weapons (on the lowest graphics config ofc because only frames and kills matter).

Edgy? You mean CRAAAAWLING IN MY SKIIIIIIIN WAKE ME UP, WAKE ME UP INSIDE, CANT WAKE UP. I TRIED SO HARD AND GONE SO FAAAR

Ah yes the national anthem of all anger snipers/warpig soldiers

Scout primary is difficult because it's absolutely stock but only other I can think is [**Candy Cane**](https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Candy_Cane) or [**Wrap Assassin**](https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Wrap_Assassin)

scout: stock soldier: original pyro: degreaser demoman: Iron bomber Heavy: Stock (only two real options) Engineer: Wrangler Medic: kritzkrieg Sniper: Bazaar Bargain Spy: Kunai Notice how i pretty much just listed the strongest items for each class? calling something a "tryhard weapon" is pretty dumb.

Scout: Scattergun Soldier: Original (Direct Hit is also an alternative) Pyro: Degreaser Demoman: Iron Bomber Heavy: Tomislav Engineer: Widowmaker Medic: Übersaw Sniper: AWPer Hand Spy: Conniver's Kunai

Tbf, the stock Scattergun for scout is too broad to call it a tryhard weapon, since almost every scout who knows what they're doing uses it. So, maybe Pretty Boy's Pocket Pistol???? Idk

Plohg

You ever see an invincible scout flying wrong with the atomizer? That one. At the highest level. The gunboats for soldier imo. Original or direct hit could take this too, but both are even edgier with the gunboats. Axtinguisher. Detonator would be here too. Sticky bomb launcher. Holiday punch Eureka effect. A lot of shit players use the wrangler and short circuit, hence why I didn’t say them. Way TOO many shit players use the gunslinger. Vaccinator Machina Kunai. Although the dead ringer is closer than a lot would realize.

Crutch ringer

Pls don't tell Machina because it's the only weapon I'm good with

Sniper - AWPer Hand, everytime

Scout: Scattergun Soldier: Direct Hit Demon Man: Sticky Bomber Heavy: Tommyslav Medic: The Vaccinator Sniper: Sniper rifle (stock) Engie: Rescue Ranger Pyro: The Degreaser Spy: Kunai

any weapon that kills me more that 10 times in a row

Kunai for Spy... obviosly.

basing this on what i most often see the worst tryhards use heavy: natascha or stock spy: diamondback (literally only seen in a game once)  medic: vaccinator sniper: bazaar bargain  demo: i got nothing soldier: conch  scout: babyface's blaster pyro: phlog engi: gunslinger i guess?

Stock

> Scout - Force-a-Nature > Soldier - Original > Pyro - Scorch Shot > Demoman - Iron Bomber > Heavy - Natascha > Engineer - Gunslinger > Medic - Vaccinator > Sniper - AWPer Hand > Spy - Conniver's Kunai

Stock, cleaver Blackbox+conch, original degreaser + flare Tomislav Iron bomber, quickie Engie is pretty balanced Bazaar bargain, shiv Medic is balanced too Ambasador/diamondback + dead-ringer + kunai

Force a’ nature Black box Back burner or degreaser w/ axetinguisher Iron bomber and Scottish resistance There isn’t a true tryhard weapon for heavy tbh Gunslinger for edge, frontier justice or widowmaker for tryhard Sniper as a whole Kritzkrieg Spy as a whole, though the sharp dresser is the top of the pedestal. Bonus points if they dress like Corvo from Dishonored or any of the first 3 assassins from AC

Sniper: the classic. In all my years, the only people who use it are people who just seethe with every death. Scout: force a nature Soldier: black box + conch Heavy: fists of steel. Almost only ever used by people who take themselves too seriously. Demo: loose cannon hybrid knight Engineer: frontier justice and jag Medic: overdose Spy: kunai, DR, diamondback Pyro: scorch shot phlog powerjack

LOLLYCHOPPER 🍭🍭🍭🍭

In my humble opinion: Scout: Stock pistol - MGE God or pedroenrique2004 Soldier: The Original - Their backpack includes the medic Pyro: The Degreaser - Quickswitches several times per microsecond Demoman: Loch n Load - Spontaneously explodes from spawn Heavy: Natascha - Hates fun almost as much as scout Engineer: Widowmaker - Not edgy but you will tryhard for that 20 Killstreak with this Medic: Vaccinator - Edgy, Tryhard, Toxic, it's all of them Sniper: Awper Hand - These guys are crawling in my skin Spy: Kunai - John Wick or pedroenrique2004

I don't really try hard, because I don't think that's fun. The closest thing I do is run a Backburner Pyro, but even then it's not a Try hard thing, just a playstyle thing

shooting star. every time i see one im filled with rage and whoever uses it is just trying to be special

I don't think I've seen people get as defensive about a weapon as the black box.

phlawg

There a lot of tryhard weapons for each class but in my opinion and experience on the game these are my picks. Scout: The ScatterGun The Pretty Boy's Pocket Pistol The Atomizer Soldier: The Direct Hit The Any Banner The Escape Plan Pyro: The Dragon's Fury (hot take but it's mad annoying and OP) The Flare Gun The Power Jack Demoman: The Iron Bomber The Sticky Launcher ( or any shield except the crit damage one) The Bottle Heavy: The Tomislav The Sandvich The GRU Engineer: The Rescue Ranger The Wrangler The Wrench Medic: The Crusader's Crossbow The Vaccinator The Ubersaw Sniper: The Bazaar Bargain The Jarate (It can be very annoying at the right hands) The Bushwacka Spy: The Ambassador The Dead ringer The Conniver's Kunai Normal sapper

Phlog

Stock, original/Aussie stock, degreaser, tomislav, iron bomber, rescue ranger, The Meta^TM, Bazaar/jarate, Kunai. Edgy tho that list would look like- bot killer, bot killer, Natasha, loch n load, frontier justice, blutsauger + The Meta^TM, awper(or bot killer), Kunai + DB

Scout scatter gun simply Soldier if we're talking edgy half-zatoichi if we're talking tryhard rock launcha original Troldier shotgun due to the bastards who shovel then gun down the poor player they missed the shovel with Pyro flare for that combo bullshit I've seen some of those pyros do Pybro stock flamethrower purely due to the spam they do with it since they suck the engines dispenser all the time Demo stock launcher purely through sticky spam Demoknight eyelander due to the speed they have Heavy tomi for min maxing DMG Fat scout the boxing gloves of killing Engie frontier justice Aggro engie the fist wrench purely due to the mini sentry Sniper bazaar bargain the damn body shot king if they headshot enough Smg sniper the stock SMG Medic the ubersaw since they will immediately bring out the melee when you get even 10 meters near the pigeon Aggro medic the medigun for invincibility for themselves if they survive long enough to get 4 hits in with their ubersaw Spy ambassador. Trickstab spy kunai they will always have more than 100 health

kukri, 2 words. random crits

As a demoknight, all of Demoman’s swords are the edgiest. Theyre very sharp, you know.

flying guillotine for scout direct hit for soldier anything for pyro but mainly the phlog idk for demo hu long heater for heavy gunslinger for engie idk for medic huntsman for sniper (I'm guilty of this) kunai for spy

Guillotine/Scattergun Shovel/Original Axtinguisher Half-zatoichi/Stickybomb launcher Iron curtain Frontier justice/Jag Kritzkrieg. Bazaar bargain. Assassin creed thing/stock knife or amby.

Kunai and Deadringer combo Don't forget the Japanese name and weebo cosmetics

we all already know Spy's full tryhard loadout

Dragons fury...

Direct hit, no question

Disclaimer like am soundsmith or something:weapons don't make the user edgy its just that edgy users gravitate more towards them so not every one who uses said weapons are edgy Scout:force a nature Soldier:direct hit Pyro:phlog Demo:stock Heavy:Tom Engie:gunslinger Medic:kritz Sniper:every weapon Spy:ambassador,kuni,dead ringer,daimond back

Pyro has to be detonator or shotgun, for the "I'm not like other girls, I use sKiLL" variety of pyro

Scout: normal scattergun. Soldier: original Pyro: the axetingusher Demoman: the loch’ n’ load Heavy: the apoca-fists Engineer: none Medic: the vita-saw Sniper: the AWPer hand Spy: the conniver’s kunai

The FISH

Scout: force o nature Soldier: direct hit Pyro: plogh Demoman: loose Cannon Heavy: medic ( weapon is the tomislav ) Engineer: wrangler Sniper: hitman's heat maker Medic: heavy ( weapon is the kritskrieg ) Spy: kunay I feel like thees are obvious picks

Scout: scattergun Soldier: original Pyro: degreaser(this thing suck as 99% of pyro's don't use it propperly lmao) Demo: stickybomb launcher Heavy: tomislav(natasha for edgy instead of tryhard) Engineer: wrangler on defence otherwise gunslinger Medic: crussaders crosbow Sniper: any primary that isn't the classic, a bow or the sydney sleeper(edgy is AWP) Spy: kunai

Weapon is too specific. So instead I'll do loadouts Scout: soda popper, pbpp, wrap assassin Soldier: original, gunboats, escape plan Pyro: degreaser, flare gun, powerjack Demoman: iron bomber, quickie, stock Heavy: tomislav, second banana, gloves of running urgently Engineer: widowmaker, stock, jag Medic: blutsager, stock, ubersaw Sniper: machina, jarate, bushwacka Spy: diamondback, stock, konniver's kunai, Dead ringer Demoknight: boots, tide turner, eyelander

We're not to kill the slimes, even if you tell us to. No no. Kill the slimes when I tell you to.

Not a weapon but I always found fun how Snipers with the Anger cosmetic and their strange super cool sniper rifle with 300k kills but they still use the razorback like it doesn't even make any sense. Like you're trying to show me how cool and pro you are but you're afraid of the worst class in the game? Really? Like at least pick jarate, it has way more skill expression than an item that literal screams ''I have 0 awareness and I'm only good at clicking heads''