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I had the opposite thing happen. A Waitress added the bill wrong, added like seven or eight dollars more growing up as a waiter, I wouldn't expect a tip fir a screw up like that. My friends argued with me, "no no no! You have to leave a tip!" Every job I've ever had involved tips from delivering pizza, waiting tables, etc. Because of this, I'm a good tipper, usually 25-30% BUT... it goes both ways. They learn to add a lot quicker if you withhold a tip! It's a rare occasion, but sometimes it's justified! Sorry but younger people today are so freaking entitled it's ridiculous. Set your phone down, learn how to add and give good service! Jeez!
Brilliant! Thank you! Never thought of that, I almost always tip in cash while paying with card. I was slightly worried that it might get pocketed by someone cleaning the table and not the main server/waiter.
If I was stiffed on a tip I would never chase someone down. Sounds like she was multitasking and right as you mentioned it she remembered you had tipped her cash. Maybe she was having a bad day but super unacceptable and unprofessional and embarrassing on your part. I hope she learns from this experience!
I forget where my phone is, as I'm holding it. I'm sure servers juggling multiple tables could easily forget something like that.
Still rude af though (even if op didn't tip). Server should have apologized at the very least.
I started tipping on the charge slip after the 2nd time I left a cash tip, where in one case it was probably stolen, and the other time the waiter said we didn't tip, even though he took the book that had the charge slip & cash.
The manager called to inquire, not asking for the tip, but wondering if there was any problem with the meal or service. Apparently they pool tips, so no tip affects everyone. We had a good talk, and when I gave him the tip amount, he said thanks and offered to send me a coupon for my time. I declined, but only because I didn't feel inconvenienced by the call. I've been back there a few times, and service is always great. But as I said above, tips now go on the card.
Def of Waitperson - person waits tables, arrives & opens before sunrise (breakfast place) ; might have a second job, clocking out after sunset. Young kids at home, chores, etc.
Two full mugs of espresso OR just two glasses of water and a nap.
I’ve definitely asked if there was an issue with the service if they didn’t tip. Of the ten times or so that I’ve done it in about 15 years only twice has it been because they don’t tip. The others were genuinely a mistake.
I would absolutely want to know if I had offended someone or did such a terrible job that I didn’t receive any tip. The only way to know is to get feedback.
Of those two times that they didn’t tip each declared it’s because it’s against their religion and god blesses me. They were also the most wild assholes I’ve ever served.
I'm a server and I very much disagree with doing this.
If there is truly negative feedback, I promise the Karen's of the world will have no issues letting you know.
Part of the game is the no-tippers and that's just life.
You really shouldn't.
Asking if there was a problem with the service is a really poor cover for "hey you didn't give me money"
We had a work outing with about 15 people. For some reason they didn't apply automatic gratuity. Most people tipped. The total take for the server for the hour had to have been about 50 or more - each person with even just one plate and a drink would have been about 400 total.
Yeah some Indian coworkers didn't tip. Like 2-3 people out of 15. So the boss lady comes out "hey I just wanted to know if we offended anyone I am just checking. Because you know it's like a statement if you didn't tip"
It's like, lady, what do you want me to do? The server got 50 bucks for an hour of work and we were not even the only table she was serving. I never got that kind of money when I was working food service. But now what you have done is make things awkward and we certainly aren't going to pick an after work bar that got greedy. You lost all the rest of the business. They could have tipped for a number of reasons - maybe they did get slow service. Maybe they noticed she was passing over them for drink refills. Maybe they thought the menu was steep for what it was. I don't know.
But you aren't fooling anyone you are just alienating people. So if you don't want the business by all means make it weird for people. But you certainly aren't entitled to it.
Someone at the table may have taken the cash tip. I used to bartend and wait tables and you have no idea how frequently it happened. I'll bet someone made a show of being the last one to leave the table, or went to the restroom and grabbed the cash tip.
I even had some guy wait for his buddy's change that he told me to keep and try to buy himself a drink with my tip.
OP says they handed it to her, so it likely wasn't stolen. Servrr either forgot or was trying to get more (thinking confronting OP would intimidate them? IDK).. either way, when it got called out, server should have apologized.
If she woulda apologized, I think it woulda been done then and just let it go; But she DIDN'T apologize, made it awkward. That would have ruined the rest of my day imo...
Yeah, but when most screw up, it isn't screaming at a family in a crowded place accusing and embarrassing them. This lady was rude and deserved no tip.
OP said after we reminded her that we handed her the tip, she looked confused. St no time did they say she screamed, just asked. When you are struggling to make ends meet at a job, I can see how she confused the people with another group and maybe was having a really bad day. Sometimes it’s best to let things go.
If you don’t tip at least 20% at self check grocery shopping then you’re obviously just a bad person. Those stores put a lot of efforts into setting up those machines so you can quickly scan your items you know. /s
Jk anyways fuck the tipping culture in general.
Wow…. That waitress was pretty bold. Maybe she has a lot going on personally, maybe this was out of character for her. But, regardless, imho that was unprofessional and pretty tacky. You might mention it to the manager, if she’s doing this to other people, she might be giving people negative vibes about coming back to that place.
I would fire her after one if it was my employee. I'm a customer, not a manager or owner, I'm not going to do their job for them. if they want to have employees like that, I don't want to be a customer. It's easier than getting into an argument with someone clearly unwell.
This is the kind of entitled BS that makes us career servers look bad. I never EXPECT a tip. I've been in the biz for 50 years this year, love what I do and truly care about people. This is just disgusting. Call corporate. THEN call the restaurant mgr and tell them you've contacted THEIR boss. I'm embarrassed for their actions and I'm so very sorry this happened to you. 🤬
Is it "entitled BS" to expect pay for services rendered?
It may have been unprofessional to provoke a confrontation in the parking lot, but servers should be paid
Are you daft? The server IS being paid for services rendered. She gets a paycheck every 2 weeks from her employer. That is literally to pay for her services.
It is absolutely entitled to expect a tip when it is not mandatory. It's 10x more entitled to chase customers down in the parking lot to harass them about a tip. It's 100x more entitled to not apologize to said customers after being told you were directly handed the tip.
Why do you feel a server is entitled to more money than a grocery store employee or retail worker when they work no harder and the job doesn't require any kind of post secondary education either?
Serving seems to be the only industry where employees feel entitled to making college level degree salaries without ever putting in the work are paying for the education. it's absolute insanity.
I used to work as a buy boy and server back when I was younger and it wasn't like that then. It's very simple, if the job wage doesn't pay enough for you, then don't take the job. Harassing your customers to make up the difference in wage of what you feel you are entitled to is ridiculously selfish unreasonable.
I remember a episode of the sopranos season 5 where all the guys went to a expensive restaurant with steak and lobsters. And a character name Chrissy is mad because he always have to pay for dinner. Well the bill came to $1184 and he only tipped $16. And and when Chrissy and a guy name paulie went outside to argue the waiter came out bitchy about the $16. I know it’s unrelated but this incident of yours reminded me of this scene
I have been a server for over 10 years, and I would NEVER do this. You should 100% call the restaurant and tell the manager about this interaction. You are not required to tip. You tip if you get good service, and that is what a tip is for a server who is friendly and attentive. Mistakes happen, kitchens mess up ,orders mess up, and if a customer is upset about that and doesn't, I completely understand. It is never okay to ask a customer about a tip or why they did not tip. I am 100% confident that if the managers or owners hear about this, the employee would be in trouble as they should be.
I was a waiter in a college town and would get stiffed regularly by college kids. The final straw was a four top of sorority chicks that ran me ragged then did not leave a tip. I chased them down in the parking lot and gave them a lecture on how bad waiters are tipped and that they should not be eating out if they cannot afford a tip. They were pretty freaked out lol.
Server/bartender here. No way would I ever do that. Call and complain to the manager. I followed a guy into the parking lot once. But because he took my cash tips off of the bar. Even so that is a terrible idea. Glad I wasn't assaulted or worse. This server was too high to remember you handed her cash. Sad.
It's a meme.. millennials don't have the backbone to stand up for themselves, and in the rare event that they do, it's "going full boomer", because Gen X and prior generations actually have an expectation to not be harassed over a tip
* because our generation's only living wage is in a restaurant setting. Y'all let all the good paying "unskilled" worker jobs go to other countries.
Serving is the most challenging job I've ever had-- and 3 nights a week I make about what I do in my full time job doing "real" work that would for most people require higher education
You didn't attach any 'meme' so I don't know how it could be a meme. It is kind of amusing to see that some think everyone from a generation fits into neat little behavioral boxes.
Meme: "an image, video, piece of text, etc., typically humorous in nature, that is copied and spread rapidly by internet users, often with slight variations."
You must have missed the boomer vs millennial jokes from the past 10 or so years.. idk
We went to Ruth's for dinner. It cost $700. Two of us saw my dad hand $140 cash to the waiter. He told his manager he wasn't tipped. (So couldn't share with the waiter he was training?) The manager called as we drove home and asked why no tip. I explained there was a tip given in cash and to please sort it out and get back to me. Manager never called. I called back and manager did not return my call. (My plan was to tip the waiter in training if he kept insisting there was no tip.) Won't go back there ever again.
My brother is a restaurant owner. He said to make sure to tip on the credit card if you pay by credit. He said his waiters pay taxes on the presumed tip anyway. I usually write cash on the tip line but lately, I just charge it.
Nope. I would have demanded a refund for the meal and tip. They are not allowed to call you at home harassing you about a tip. Corporate office would have been given the manager's name and a recording of the phone call
The fact that they actually HANDED her the cash tip -not just left it on the table. I would maybe call the restaurant and speak to the manager rather than go back in and be confrontational.
I think a restaurant should pay a waiter or waitress minimum wage like all others. then a tip is a gratuity, not their only way of making a living. This waiter was out of line, but until the payscale is corrected please tip in cash at the table. that means plan ahead. In Georgia USA . $7.25 per hour minimum wage for non-tipped workers. **$2.13 per hour** minimum wage for tipped workers, $5.12 tip credit to make up the employee's wage to an average of $7.25 per hour
What a joke, I’d lodge a complaint with the manager and give the restaurant a review detailing her behavior
People like this are why I tip less and less anymore, used to be a generous tipper, this entitlement has gotten out of hand.
I would have gone back into the restaurant and asked to speak to a manager. Whether or not you tipped is your business and no waitress or restaurant employee of any kind has the right to chase you down to question you about tipping. She has probably found a way to get double tips, especially if it's a restaurant where elderly people eat frequently because they might not remember whether they tipped or not. This is one of those situations where the manager needs to get involved and you should have gotten your tip you did pay back from the waitress. Her behavior was unacceptable.
I saw someone else mention it, but I always write CASH in the tip line on the receipt when I pay the tip in cash. That way, if they are super busy the waitress will look at the receipts and think "this person gave me a cash tip" and move to the next receipt.
Why tip with cash? Most billing systems keep track of tips on credit cards so it can be properly divided up with remaining wait staff. Also tips are currently declared as income for taxes...this may change after USA election in November
Cash tips are rarely claimed. I think payroll automatically ascribes a small amount of assumed tip? I forget but I do know most servers prefer cash tips.
I’m confused. The government doesn’t help me in my duties either. I have to claim all my income. Not being critical or judgmental, but servers rarely do , hence why I think the larger restaurant chains automatically deduct FICA and federal and not only for base pay but assuming some amount of tip. One of my kids has been a server for 20 plus years /all of his adult life. I’ll ask him. He makes a very good living. My deceased Dad who was a cpa convinced him to report and pay more in tax because it does determine how much one receives in SS at retirement and helps for qualifying for a mortgage.
It was a joke lol but in all honesty some small shops give discounts for paying in cash. Saves me money and taxes are between them and the IRS.
Generally if it's your long term career I would definitely report it for the loans. Technically you can save a lot more in stocks with that money than relying on social security
When I charge a meal but leave a cash tip, I write "cash" on the tip line of the CC receipt so no one looks at it and gets the wrong impression.
To give her the benefit of the doubt, she might not honestly remembered you giving her a tip until it was mentioned - brain farts happen - and was embarrassed enough to want to retreat as fast as possible
Why give her "the benefit of the doubt"....
If she is grown enough, confident enough, fearless enough to go confront a family at their car in a parking lot......she should damn well be comfortable enough to un-fucking-fart her bird brain enough to APOLOGIZE
If she's uncapable of doing that....she damn well shouldn't be going out ACCUSING ppl of shit "as FAST as possible"
All this Victimation shit is bull shit.....so either SHE is a "victim" of not getting a tip....or she's a "victim" of being too embarrassed of being a forgetful dumb-fuck such that SHE "has to" rudely....just "retreat" as Fast as possible......yeah she's such a VICTIM
Maybe she's just desperate enough.
It's not like benefit of the doubt is an expensive item, it's just worth the rent the incident isn't paying to live in your head.
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Tipping isn't a requirement.
She isn't entitled to a tip and I'd have gone back in and asked the manager to refund the tip since she followed me to the car harassing me for something that isn't a part of the actual bill.
Would you also react with a blank stare and turn away silently when you were reminded it was paid in cash, and currently in your pocket? If not, that's where you become less of a jerk than the story's server.
Servers rely on tips unlike most. So who are we to judge? She wanted to make sure got her tip and she did. Why she apologizing for that? Is it because nobody got hurt and everyone walked away just fine? People get too emotional at others just trying to live their life and do their jobs. Lay off the poor sever unless you want to do her job for her.
If you rely on tips...and don't pay attention to hands them directly to you ..and then accost those people because YOU aren't paying attention then you don't deserve repeat guests. Be good at your job or be poor as a server. They're clearly poor at their job. As they rely on tips paying attention and hospitality should be paramount and this person clearly ignores all of that.
Yeah see when you have a bad day and stress, fatigue, and a crappy job environment wear you down then you get forgetful. So I don’t blame her. People have bad days. Do you get penalized every bad day you have at your job? Do you get a Reddit post hating on you just cause you had bad day? No. So let’s not judge the poor soul who works hard as she can to live a life she never asked for. Can we do that? If not then just accept I disagree and move on. Thanks. People very quick to judge these days. World would be a better place if that changed.
That's likely a trend if you cant keep track of basics. Everyone has bad days. I don't run after clients because I forgot they did something 5 minutes ago. Tons of sympathy for them but serving isn't for everyone.
If someone does that especially bc I know I always tip- I would walk back in restaurant and get manager and tell them. Not for my sake but for the others she has would run after. Needs to be fired. Sad
I never claimed nobody deserves a tip, I claimed they are not entitled to a tip. A tip is given as a thanks to the server. If the customers don't feel the service was worth tipping for, then they are not obligated to tip
Lol, funny that he calls you in to fight his battles. Then gets himself deleted. I do tip, I'm just saying it's optional for a reason. And I definitely wouldn't tip this lady ever again if she did this. It's also way beyond rude to chase a customer into the parking lot to confront them like this. Have a good one
What? the guy who was literally harassing me by following me around tagging me? Even after I asked him to stop? I certainly wasn't trying to fight his battles, he completely disagreed with what I said ,and decided to harass me because he didn't have a leg to stand on.
I haven't stated anything about this situation because I don't care to.
Have a good one.
i was reading through your comments, tipping incentives good service and keeps the cost of your meal low. say restaurants had to pay higher wages, the cost of their products would go up too (and it’s already so expensive) just to meet the gap because restaurants tend to already lack profitability and corporate greed wouldnt stand to lose money from their own pockets to pay a fair wage, that has never changed.
as well, if tipping were to stop there would be no incentive to work hard and do a good job, as getting fired from a restaurant does not hold nearly the same weight as a salary position. a lot of these servers have college degrees and could make a steady wage, they just choose to work in an industry that has a standard of tipping.
you are correct, if a server is good at their job and responsible with money they are not struggling for one table stiffing them. and by no means is someone entitled to a tip, however the custom in america is 10-15% for average service with 18-20% being quality and 21%+ for amazing service. a good server is not hurt by your lack of tip financially, however you will be made fun of and seen as an entitled asshole if you refuse to tip on the principle “i don’t wanna subsidize wages for the company”
servers tip out other employees, the same way a hair stylist pays for a chair in the studio or an uber driver pays for gas to drive you around. it’s courteous to leave a tip to say thank you for the effort. tipping culture most likely will not change and if it does no one will want to go out because there will be no quality in the experience.
I tipped a Sonic waitress $2.01 on a $1.99 order. I handed her $4.00 and told her to keep the change. She turned around and started complaining about my 1 cent tip to some kids seated at the outside tables.
She should probably count the money she is being paid for orders so that the till remains correct. I’m sure she’s young so we can only hope she’s learning on this journey
Same thing happened to me. Ate with a big party, so the tip was automatically added. The manager came and yelled at us for not tipping. Seems like he was aching to embarrass people that didn't' tip. Was super rude and didn't' even apologize or seem apologetic in the slightest.
If a waiter did that, I would go right back in and get the tip back, especially if I have given cash. Don't let people bully and harass you like that, especially if you are not in the wrong.
Pay on the card, let them pay taxes on it
Stop going to businesses that you're required to tip. Chipotle has a no tip policy. That's where i take my business to.
I went to Chipotle yesterday for the first time in a long time. I was pleasantly surprised that I wasn't even asked to tip.
Completely unacceptable
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I had the opposite thing happen. A Waitress added the bill wrong, added like seven or eight dollars more growing up as a waiter, I wouldn't expect a tip fir a screw up like that. My friends argued with me, "no no no! You have to leave a tip!" Every job I've ever had involved tips from delivering pizza, waiting tables, etc. Because of this, I'm a good tipper, usually 25-30% BUT... it goes both ways. They learn to add a lot quicker if you withhold a tip! It's a rare occasion, but sometimes it's justified! Sorry but younger people today are so freaking entitled it's ridiculous. Set your phone down, learn how to add and give good service! Jeez!
Wtf....did you have a stroke?
What on Earth did I just read?
Sorry, revised I was distracted. Thank you. Lol
I always write cash on the tip line for CC slips.
Brilliant! Thank you! Never thought of that, I almost always tip in cash while paying with card. I was slightly worried that it might get pocketed by someone cleaning the table and not the main server/waiter.
It also forces them to declare their cash tips for the day.
One dollah
If I was stiffed on a tip I would never chase someone down. Sounds like she was multitasking and right as you mentioned it she remembered you had tipped her cash. Maybe she was having a bad day but super unacceptable and unprofessional and embarrassing on your part. I hope she learns from this experience!
It's a quick way to no longer be concerned about receiving tips at that place of business.
What a bitch
How did she forget you directly handed her cash?
I forget where my phone is, as I'm holding it. I'm sure servers juggling multiple tables could easily forget something like that. Still rude af though (even if op didn't tip). Server should have apologized at the very least.
Super unprofessional. Not being tipped sucks but running people down in the parking lot is crazy.
I started tipping on the charge slip after the 2nd time I left a cash tip, where in one case it was probably stolen, and the other time the waiter said we didn't tip, even though he took the book that had the charge slip & cash. The manager called to inquire, not asking for the tip, but wondering if there was any problem with the meal or service. Apparently they pool tips, so no tip affects everyone. We had a good talk, and when I gave him the tip amount, he said thanks and offered to send me a coupon for my time. I declined, but only because I didn't feel inconvenienced by the call. I've been back there a few times, and service is always great. But as I said above, tips now go on the card.
I write cash on the tip line when I leave cash tips. I heard that some pocket the cash tips and say they didn't get any.
Def of Waitperson - person waits tables, arrives & opens before sunrise (breakfast place) ; might have a second job, clocking out after sunset. Young kids at home, chores, etc. Two full mugs of espresso OR just two glasses of water and a nap.
I drink a 6 pack of monster java. I work 830pm to 730-8 depending on how long it takes to get side work done. You have never spoken more true words.
Walk back in and start yelling at the top of your lungs about how ungrateful that yatch is
She might be a few French fries short of a happy meal if she doesn't remember you handing it to you.
I back the servers actions. I hope she got her tip.
So you defend her being an airheaded asshole? Alright then.
I’ve definitely asked if there was an issue with the service if they didn’t tip. Of the ten times or so that I’ve done it in about 15 years only twice has it been because they don’t tip. The others were genuinely a mistake. I would absolutely want to know if I had offended someone or did such a terrible job that I didn’t receive any tip. The only way to know is to get feedback. Of those two times that they didn’t tip each declared it’s because it’s against their religion and god blesses me. They were also the most wild assholes I’ve ever served.
I'm a server and I very much disagree with doing this. If there is truly negative feedback, I promise the Karen's of the world will have no issues letting you know. Part of the game is the no-tippers and that's just life.
I prefer to be proactive with my job.
You really shouldn't. Asking if there was a problem with the service is a really poor cover for "hey you didn't give me money" We had a work outing with about 15 people. For some reason they didn't apply automatic gratuity. Most people tipped. The total take for the server for the hour had to have been about 50 or more - each person with even just one plate and a drink would have been about 400 total. Yeah some Indian coworkers didn't tip. Like 2-3 people out of 15. So the boss lady comes out "hey I just wanted to know if we offended anyone I am just checking. Because you know it's like a statement if you didn't tip" It's like, lady, what do you want me to do? The server got 50 bucks for an hour of work and we were not even the only table she was serving. I never got that kind of money when I was working food service. But now what you have done is make things awkward and we certainly aren't going to pick an after work bar that got greedy. You lost all the rest of the business. They could have tipped for a number of reasons - maybe they did get slow service. Maybe they noticed she was passing over them for drink refills. Maybe they thought the menu was steep for what it was. I don't know. But you aren't fooling anyone you are just alienating people. So if you don't want the business by all means make it weird for people. But you certainly aren't entitled to it.
I stand by it.
And I stand by taking my chunk of business elsewhere.
Oh no! Don’t leave the hypothetical restaurant! What ever will I do?!?
It's not hypothetical this happened about a month ago.
Manager!
Someone at the table may have taken the cash tip. I used to bartend and wait tables and you have no idea how frequently it happened. I'll bet someone made a show of being the last one to leave the table, or went to the restroom and grabbed the cash tip. I even had some guy wait for his buddy's change that he told me to keep and try to buy himself a drink with my tip.
OP says they handed it to her, so it likely wasn't stolen. Servrr either forgot or was trying to get more (thinking confronting OP would intimidate them? IDK).. either way, when it got called out, server should have apologized.
ah i saw this exact situation on sopranos. they solved it with a brick and handgun.
I would have taken that tip back. Just as loudly.
If she woulda apologized, I think it woulda been done then and just let it go; But she DIDN'T apologize, made it awkward. That would have ruined the rest of my day imo...
I would have just let it go. Went home and not made a big deal out of it. Everybody screws up now and then
Yeah, but when most screw up, it isn't screaming at a family in a crowded place accusing and embarrassing them. This lady was rude and deserved no tip.
OP said after we reminded her that we handed her the tip, she looked confused. St no time did they say she screamed, just asked. When you are struggling to make ends meet at a job, I can see how she confused the people with another group and maybe was having a really bad day. Sometimes it’s best to let things go.
She probably didn't scream.
id speak to the owner she would be unemployed
Yup. ' Can we take this discussion inside ' kind of thing.
Tipping is out of control these days. Pay your people a livable wage. I’m tired of it, I’m tired of being asked for its almost as bad as pan handling
If you don’t tip at least 20% at self check grocery shopping then you’re obviously just a bad person. Those stores put a lot of efforts into setting up those machines so you can quickly scan your items you know. /s Jk anyways fuck the tipping culture in general.
Tipping at cash registers is a ridiculous thing.
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Complain to management. That is uncalled for. If you go back, I’d definitely would never use her again
Some establishments will fire a server for that. Even if it happens once.
I'm a server and I would absolutely fire someone for doing that if it were within my control.
She should be fired for not apologizing. I hate those assholes who can't apologize.
she should be fired for following you into the parking lot regardless of if you tipped or not.
Wow…. That waitress was pretty bold. Maybe she has a lot going on personally, maybe this was out of character for her. But, regardless, imho that was unprofessional and pretty tacky. You might mention it to the manager, if she’s doing this to other people, she might be giving people negative vibes about coming back to that place.
I wouldn't mention it to anyone but I wouldn't be going back to the establishment either
Why shouldn’t those actions have consequences? How many people does she have to follow into a parking lot before there is a consequence?
I would fire her after one if it was my employee. I'm a customer, not a manager or owner, I'm not going to do their job for them. if they want to have employees like that, I don't want to be a customer. It's easier than getting into an argument with someone clearly unwell.
Valid point. One doesn’t know the level of crazy that may be at play here.
This is the kind of entitled BS that makes us career servers look bad. I never EXPECT a tip. I've been in the biz for 50 years this year, love what I do and truly care about people. This is just disgusting. Call corporate. THEN call the restaurant mgr and tell them you've contacted THEIR boss. I'm embarrassed for their actions and I'm so very sorry this happened to you. 🤬
Is it "entitled BS" to expect pay for services rendered? It may have been unprofessional to provoke a confrontation in the parking lot, but servers should be paid
Ummm...we are paid. By the employer. Tips are a bonus.
It's $2.13/hour here. Hardly a full wage!
It's not $2.13/hour there or anywhere. Go read up on the FLSA and you'll not repeat this common mistake.
Are you daft? The server IS being paid for services rendered. She gets a paycheck every 2 weeks from her employer. That is literally to pay for her services. It is absolutely entitled to expect a tip when it is not mandatory. It's 10x more entitled to chase customers down in the parking lot to harass them about a tip. It's 100x more entitled to not apologize to said customers after being told you were directly handed the tip. Why do you feel a server is entitled to more money than a grocery store employee or retail worker when they work no harder and the job doesn't require any kind of post secondary education either? Serving seems to be the only industry where employees feel entitled to making college level degree salaries without ever putting in the work are paying for the education. it's absolute insanity. I used to work as a buy boy and server back when I was younger and it wasn't like that then. It's very simple, if the job wage doesn't pay enough for you, then don't take the job. Harassing your customers to make up the difference in wage of what you feel you are entitled to is ridiculously selfish unreasonable.
I remember a episode of the sopranos season 5 where all the guys went to a expensive restaurant with steak and lobsters. And a character name Chrissy is mad because he always have to pay for dinner. Well the bill came to $1184 and he only tipped $16. And and when Chrissy and a guy name paulie went outside to argue the waiter came out bitchy about the $16. I know it’s unrelated but this incident of yours reminded me of this scene
That’s when you should have asked for the tip back. That’s the only way these kinds of people will learn.
As a career server myself this is EXACTLY what I'd do.
I have been a server for over 10 years, and I would NEVER do this. You should 100% call the restaurant and tell the manager about this interaction. You are not required to tip. You tip if you get good service, and that is what a tip is for a server who is friendly and attentive. Mistakes happen, kitchens mess up ,orders mess up, and if a customer is upset about that and doesn't, I completely understand. It is never okay to ask a customer about a tip or why they did not tip. I am 100% confident that if the managers or owners hear about this, the employee would be in trouble as they should be.
I was a waiter in a college town and would get stiffed regularly by college kids. The final straw was a four top of sorority chicks that ran me ragged then did not leave a tip. I chased them down in the parking lot and gave them a lecture on how bad waiters are tipped and that they should not be eating out if they cannot afford a tip. They were pretty freaked out lol.
They weren't freaked out. They were laughing at you.
I wouldn't have tipped you either way
And then everyone in the restaurant clapped and called you a hero.
Wow. You freaked out a bunch of college girls. You’re so bada$$!
you seem annoying
bro who cares? People will post anything for attention
This only happens in the movies
I would have taken back the tip and walked off. It's not my job to pay anyone's salary.
Unless you have commissioned services from from!
There are no commissioned services in a restaurant.
Oh. I thought you asked someone to do something for you with the understanding you would receive money in exchange. Oops
That would imply that the server is under my employ. Is that the relationship?
Oh hell no. I would have gone back in and had them refund the meal and the tip. No one is entitled to anything.
Okay, Karen.
Ahhhh Tip shaming ….. tell the management and truly never return…
Server/bartender here. No way would I ever do that. Call and complain to the manager. I followed a guy into the parking lot once. But because he took my cash tips off of the bar. Even so that is a terrible idea. Glad I wasn't assaulted or worse. This server was too high to remember you handed her cash. Sad.
Sounds like she is entitled while also being a victim. So what if you didn't tip? Is she going to fight you over it? Tipping isn't a requirement.
Except it is just a "tip", it is the bulk of their salary
I would have went full boomer and expected my meal for free...
Standing up for yourself would have been 'going full Boomer'?
It's a meme.. millennials don't have the backbone to stand up for themselves, and in the rare event that they do, it's "going full boomer", because Gen X and prior generations actually have an expectation to not be harassed over a tip
* because our generation's only living wage is in a restaurant setting. Y'all let all the good paying "unskilled" worker jobs go to other countries. Serving is the most challenging job I've ever had-- and 3 nights a week I make about what I do in my full time job doing "real" work that would for most people require higher education
You didn't attach any 'meme' so I don't know how it could be a meme. It is kind of amusing to see that some think everyone from a generation fits into neat little behavioral boxes.
Meme: "an image, video, piece of text, etc., typically humorous in nature, that is copied and spread rapidly by internet users, often with slight variations." You must have missed the boomer vs millennial jokes from the past 10 or so years.. idk
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No doubt! Applying stereotypes to someone who correctly called it out is indeed an asshole move.
Wow you seem insufferable
Jeezus. What an asshole.
Cringe
the way i would have follows them back and talked to the manager and went full karen lol.
You shouldn’t be surprised. Beggar always a beggar!
We went to Ruth's for dinner. It cost $700. Two of us saw my dad hand $140 cash to the waiter. He told his manager he wasn't tipped. (So couldn't share with the waiter he was training?) The manager called as we drove home and asked why no tip. I explained there was a tip given in cash and to please sort it out and get back to me. Manager never called. I called back and manager did not return my call. (My plan was to tip the waiter in training if he kept insisting there was no tip.) Won't go back there ever again. My brother is a restaurant owner. He said to make sure to tip on the credit card if you pay by credit. He said his waiters pay taxes on the presumed tip anyway. I usually write cash on the tip line but lately, I just charge it.
Nope. I would have demanded a refund for the meal and tip. They are not allowed to call you at home harassing you about a tip. Corporate office would have been given the manager's name and a recording of the phone call
The fact that they actually HANDED her the cash tip -not just left it on the table. I would maybe call the restaurant and speak to the manager rather than go back in and be confrontational.
I wouldnt hesitate to complain about his behavior.
I would have went inside and got my tip back. lol
Embarrassing for the waiter. He’s obviously not very observant and acts like an ass.
I think a restaurant should pay a waiter or waitress minimum wage like all others. then a tip is a gratuity, not their only way of making a living. This waiter was out of line, but until the payscale is corrected please tip in cash at the table. that means plan ahead. In Georgia USA . $7.25 per hour minimum wage for non-tipped workers. **$2.13 per hour** minimum wage for tipped workers, $5.12 tip credit to make up the employee's wage to an average of $7.25 per hour
Nobody could live off $7.25 either, that’s wild.
Mosts states have higher tipped minimum wages. $10+ but honestly I'd be looking for a new job if I get paid less than $15
What a joke, I’d lodge a complaint with the manager and give the restaurant a review detailing her behavior People like this are why I tip less and less anymore, used to be a generous tipper, this entitlement has gotten out of hand.
I would have gone back into the restaurant and asked to speak to a manager. Whether or not you tipped is your business and no waitress or restaurant employee of any kind has the right to chase you down to question you about tipping. She has probably found a way to get double tips, especially if it's a restaurant where elderly people eat frequently because they might not remember whether they tipped or not. This is one of those situations where the manager needs to get involved and you should have gotten your tip you did pay back from the waitress. Her behavior was unacceptable. I saw someone else mention it, but I always write CASH in the tip line on the receipt when I pay the tip in cash. That way, if they are super busy the waitress will look at the receipts and think "this person gave me a cash tip" and move to the next receipt.
I’ll give them a “TIP” 🍆
Are you sure you didn't give it to the wrong person? Sounds like someone took her tip
Why tip with cash? Most billing systems keep track of tips on credit cards so it can be properly divided up with remaining wait staff. Also tips are currently declared as income for taxes...this may change after USA election in November
Cash tips are rarely claimed. I think payroll automatically ascribes a small amount of assumed tip? I forget but I do know most servers prefer cash tips.
I didn't see the government helping bring my water
I’m confused. The government doesn’t help me in my duties either. I have to claim all my income. Not being critical or judgmental, but servers rarely do , hence why I think the larger restaurant chains automatically deduct FICA and federal and not only for base pay but assuming some amount of tip. One of my kids has been a server for 20 plus years /all of his adult life. I’ll ask him. He makes a very good living. My deceased Dad who was a cpa convinced him to report and pay more in tax because it does determine how much one receives in SS at retirement and helps for qualifying for a mortgage.
It was a joke lol but in all honesty some small shops give discounts for paying in cash. Saves me money and taxes are between them and the IRS. Generally if it's your long term career I would definitely report it for the loans. Technically you can save a lot more in stocks with that money than relying on social security
The cash discounts are for avoiding credit card fees.
Not always. I got a $200 discount buying truck tires from a local shop if I paid cash. Don't think the credit card companies charge that much. LOL
When I charge a meal but leave a cash tip, I write "cash" on the tip line of the CC receipt so no one looks at it and gets the wrong impression. To give her the benefit of the doubt, she might not honestly remembered you giving her a tip until it was mentioned - brain farts happen - and was embarrassed enough to want to retreat as fast as possible
Why give her "the benefit of the doubt".... If she is grown enough, confident enough, fearless enough to go confront a family at their car in a parking lot......she should damn well be comfortable enough to un-fucking-fart her bird brain enough to APOLOGIZE If she's uncapable of doing that....she damn well shouldn't be going out ACCUSING ppl of shit "as FAST as possible" All this Victimation shit is bull shit.....so either SHE is a "victim" of not getting a tip....or she's a "victim" of being too embarrassed of being a forgetful dumb-fuck such that SHE "has to" rudely....just "retreat" as Fast as possible......yeah she's such a VICTIM
Maybe she's just desperate enough. It's not like benefit of the doubt is an expensive item, it's just worth the rent the incident isn't paying to live in your head.
The server did nothing but make sure she got her money. Don’t see an issue here.
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Tipping isn't a requirement. She isn't entitled to a tip and I'd have gone back in and asked the manager to refund the tip since she followed me to the car harassing me for something that isn't a part of the actual bill.
It’s not her money, if someone chooses to give it to her it is, until then she has no right to anything
If they handed it to the waiter then it's on them and wouldn't go back if they don't care enough to even pay attention to people handing them money.
I disagree. Server wanted to make sure she had her tip and she did. I’d want to know where my money at if I was her too.
Would you also react with a blank stare and turn away silently when you were reminded it was paid in cash, and currently in your pocket? If not, that's where you become less of a jerk than the story's server.
Good argument. Why?
Servers rely on tips unlike most. So who are we to judge? She wanted to make sure got her tip and she did. Why she apologizing for that? Is it because nobody got hurt and everyone walked away just fine? People get too emotional at others just trying to live their life and do their jobs. Lay off the poor sever unless you want to do her job for her.
If you rely on tips...and don't pay attention to hands them directly to you ..and then accost those people because YOU aren't paying attention then you don't deserve repeat guests. Be good at your job or be poor as a server. They're clearly poor at their job. As they rely on tips paying attention and hospitality should be paramount and this person clearly ignores all of that.
Yeah see when you have a bad day and stress, fatigue, and a crappy job environment wear you down then you get forgetful. So I don’t blame her. People have bad days. Do you get penalized every bad day you have at your job? Do you get a Reddit post hating on you just cause you had bad day? No. So let’s not judge the poor soul who works hard as she can to live a life she never asked for. Can we do that? If not then just accept I disagree and move on. Thanks. People very quick to judge these days. World would be a better place if that changed.
That's likely a trend if you cant keep track of basics. Everyone has bad days. I don't run after clients because I forgot they did something 5 minutes ago. Tons of sympathy for them but serving isn't for everyone.
I often tip 10% or less for bad service.
What a shitty encounter! I can't even imagine chasing a customer to get a tip. Unprofessional 😡😡😡😡
If someone does that especially bc I know I always tip- I would walk back in restaurant and get manager and tell them. Not for my sake but for the others she has would run after. Needs to be fired. Sad
I honestly would've walked right back in and snatched my fucking tip right outta her shit cuz absolutely not....
Nobody is entitled to a tip. What an asshole
u/hildursfarm, care to chime in?
Jesus bruv what would you like to know? Be more than happy to help.
The claim is “nobody deserves a tip.” Whats your opinion? u/ecodiver23
I never claimed nobody deserves a tip, I claimed they are not entitled to a tip. A tip is given as a thanks to the server. If the customers don't feel the service was worth tipping for, then they are not obligated to tip
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Nope. You're just a troll, trolling, have a great day.
Lol, funny that he calls you in to fight his battles. Then gets himself deleted. I do tip, I'm just saying it's optional for a reason. And I definitely wouldn't tip this lady ever again if she did this. It's also way beyond rude to chase a customer into the parking lot to confront them like this. Have a good one
What? the guy who was literally harassing me by following me around tagging me? Even after I asked him to stop? I certainly wasn't trying to fight his battles, he completely disagreed with what I said ,and decided to harass me because he didn't have a leg to stand on. I haven't stated anything about this situation because I don't care to. Have a good one.
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Your comment is unacceptable. Clean up your language. What's the reason you choose to be so hostile and offensive? Examine yourself.
The claim is bullshit. Glad I could be of help! Have a day.
Can you explain how every person is entitled then?
Can I explain how every what person is entitled to what then?
They said nobody is entitled to a tip. You said that's bullshit. Explain why everyone is entitled.
It's literally the business model of the tipped establishments and everyone is aware of that. It's really simple actually.
Tips are not a requirement and are based on the level of service provided according to the patron.
LMAO
I would have walked back in with her and demand my tip back.
And told the manager. Most companies won't tolerate a servicer approaching guests for a tip.
That's what I'm saying, incredibly rude of them.
u/hildursfarm, care to comment?
Why do you keep calling this account to comment? Weird shit, dude.
i was reading through your comments, tipping incentives good service and keeps the cost of your meal low. say restaurants had to pay higher wages, the cost of their products would go up too (and it’s already so expensive) just to meet the gap because restaurants tend to already lack profitability and corporate greed wouldnt stand to lose money from their own pockets to pay a fair wage, that has never changed. as well, if tipping were to stop there would be no incentive to work hard and do a good job, as getting fired from a restaurant does not hold nearly the same weight as a salary position. a lot of these servers have college degrees and could make a steady wage, they just choose to work in an industry that has a standard of tipping. you are correct, if a server is good at their job and responsible with money they are not struggling for one table stiffing them. and by no means is someone entitled to a tip, however the custom in america is 10-15% for average service with 18-20% being quality and 21%+ for amazing service. a good server is not hurt by your lack of tip financially, however you will be made fun of and seen as an entitled asshole if you refuse to tip on the principle “i don’t wanna subsidize wages for the company” servers tip out other employees, the same way a hair stylist pays for a chair in the studio or an uber driver pays for gas to drive you around. it’s courteous to leave a tip to say thank you for the effort. tipping culture most likely will not change and if it does no one will want to go out because there will be no quality in the experience.
Not all server jobs have the servers tip out to others. Depends on the place.
I think a good manager would kick their sorry asses to the curb.
I can't believe people have the audacity to do this. If this happened to me I'd just say "yeah it was horrible" and leave.
There has never been more r / ThatHappened posts in one group. Not even in the ThatHappened sub.
I write “cash” in the tip line so there’s no confusion
this is the way
Yeah, thats messed up. Shame on that waitress.
I’m going back in and taking it back real shit 😂 and laughing while doing it
I would call the manager about this. Chasing someone out to the parking lot to inquire about a tip is totally unacceptable!
I tipped a Sonic waitress $2.01 on a $1.99 order. I handed her $4.00 and told her to keep the change. She turned around and started complaining about my 1 cent tip to some kids seated at the outside tables.
In all fairness, she probably couldn’t do the math and thought you left her 1 cent.
Why would she complain in the first place? Fast food workers don’t normally get tips.
That’s why she works at sonic
Hey, I worked at Sonic! I was a kid. She was a kid too. I don't know if she ever realized she got a tip or just put it in the till.
Most people suck at math. Horribly. Probably saw the order was 1.99 and that you tipped 2.01 but focused on the difference of the two cents
She should probably count the money she is being paid for orders so that the till remains correct. I’m sure she’s young so we can only hope she’s learning on this journey
Yeah I would have went to the manager immediately (before calling corporate).
Good job Karen
You're in favor of employees leaving their jobs to accost customers and potentially get into altercations?
No, but I can stand up for myself. I don't need to run to the principal every time someone offends me
Well at least you can now take that establishment off your list of places to go.
Same thing happened to me. Ate with a big party, so the tip was automatically added. The manager came and yelled at us for not tipping. Seems like he was aching to embarrass people that didn't' tip. Was super rude and didn't' even apologize or seem apologetic in the slightest.
If a waiter did that, I would go right back in and get the tip back, especially if I have given cash. Don't let people bully and harass you like that, especially if you are not in the wrong.