Disagree I worked for a dealership that would pass up on tires all the time it was ridiculous they said unless they are at 3/32 don't bother bringing it to the service manager because the age didn't make it not safe I've never hated the people I worked for more in my life.
Those are kinda different because the tread goes all the way down so they have roughly the similar traction till about 2/32 great tires I might recommend michelin pilot sports over those tires though or the yokahama apex
My dealership makes note and gives the tire size and so on at 4/32” and recommends the customer think about looking at replacing sooner than later. We don’t tell them they have to, we just let them know and take notice. If we see secondary rubber or uneven wear we take pictures and send them to them as well.
I never understood it the service manager would say thing like oh they won't buy that, this areas too poor to offer things. it was ridiculous I used to be the marketing manager for a tire shop and things like that were like obviously missed opportunities don't think he was ever trained in sales before they let him loose on his own. Anyway I gave up because my check was the same ether way.
The tread literally doesn't even matter, the manufactured date is 11 years ago. Recommended replacement is after seven or eight, department of transportation states no tires over 10 years old should be on the road
While there is no specific law, the U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT) recommends replacing passenger car and truck tires every 6 years, regardless of wear. However, they strongly advise that all tires, including spares, should be replaced after 10 years, as a precautionary measure for safety.
Can confirm. I had perfectly good BF Goodrich tires on my truck, a lot more tread than the picture with zero visible cracks. Tread came off on interstate with little warning. Tires were 9 years old. I watch dates now....
yea she told my mom she went to "her tire shop" but from the looks of it she hasn't visited one in over 10 years. not a chance a tire shop would turn down doing that
You can simply Google the tire size and really cheap deals will pop up, especially for something like a Corolla. I’ve seen them for $35 each at local shops. They won’t be Goodyears but they will be new
Yea, OP.
Pick a day before your day off where your mom has plans.
Let out all the air out of one of her tires. Offer to take her car to the tire shop and let her take your car for the day.
Then you can get the tire shop to properly inspect the *accident waiting to happen*, and let your mom know.
They’d try if they could.
I had a puncture on brand new tires, took it back to the shop that did the install. They did quite possibly the worst patch job in the world, apparently never took the tire off the rim, there was still a tiny leak. Naturally the tire was unrepairable.
They hand me the keys back, the spare is on the car, they told me there’s a sale online and come back when the tire is delivered. They’d hold onto my tire and rim for convenience. Ummm… sure OK.
I pull out of the lot, realize the game they’re playing, turn right back in, politely request that my tire is put back in my car, and drive straight to a local cash-only shop and do a proper patch for $30.
Scummy place. Never again.
Edit: I now realize you meant holding for safety reasons, not necessarily as leverage. Oh well, post is staying.
They would at least make them sign a waiver. I worked at a shop as an alignment tech and a flat tire repair got the tire tech and the shop in hot water due to the age of the tire. After that the manager was waiver happy.
I worked for a shop that insisted I fix tires from 2003. Some shops genuinely believe it's fine as long as it holds air, especially bad with small town or rural/farm areas. Thank God I'm not working there anymore :/
This is how I feel about all vehicle maintenance issues 😬 I’d drive it, away from other traffic and reasonable speeds but there’s no way in hell my wife or kids are riding with me, much less letting my wife drive it.
So you recognize they too hazardous for your wife or daughter to use, but have no problem driving them yourself on a shared road where you might kill someone else's wife or daughter?
Some people know how to drive in situations and some panic and don’t…. New tires can blow out (Firestone etc.) or get a nail, cut, pothole. Would I do it now, probably not, or for long. When I was young and broke broke, yes.
Not the guy you asked, but between driving large trucks in not ideal situations, to off-road rigs, to vehicles with tires that have blown out or fallen off-
yeah. Me personally if money was tight enough I’d drive on these. difference is I know how to handle a blowout, I also understand being extra careful in maintaining precise air pressure and making sure the tires aren’t running to hot. not to be the “I can land a plane” guy, but I could run those tires and handle a blow out especially in a small fwd car and maintain the lane. which is better then tens of cars I see every single day driving perfectly functional vehicles.
But I wouldn’t let someone I care about who doesn’t have those experiences drive someone with tires that most likely are leaking air and are very susceptible to a blow out if ran low.
if that's the case then her priorities are wrong. she comes to my mom to get eyelashes done which is about $60 or so every 2 weeks. Id mentioned the tires months ago and they've only gotten more and more rotted
yea after the first time mentioning i was just like oh well you do you. hopefully if one blows she doesn't damage anyone else's property or especially injure anyone else
If this person is just going to their routine stuff around town these are certainly bad, but the risk is low. The real danger is speed, or extended travel times. So so long as the person isnt going on the highway id give them a pass.
That said you should make them aware of that danger so should they find themselves in a situation where they need to go somewhere far, they give themselves enough time to rent a car or get these replaced
With cracking like that the tire’s flexibility is compromised, and if the tire gets hot enough she could suffer tread separation while driving, a very dangerous condition.
If she can’t get them replaced right now, suggest short trips only, preferably early morning and night only. Absolutely no highway driving.
Some of yall ain't never blown a tire, and it shows.
What happens on family guy isn't the same as what happens in real life. I've personally blown 2 tires myself (steer and rear) and guess what happened.! I didn't spin out of control, flip into oncoming traffic,.and spontaneously combust... I pulled over, and changed the tire. I've been in aa vehicle when my dad was driving as a kid... same scenario, pulled over and changed the tire. I've been in a 70s grain truck with a steer tire that popped. You'll never guess the horrific outcome of that one.!!!
I've even had newer, really good condition tires blow during normal driving situations, no signs whatsoever. I'd imagine a road debris got ran over or something.
I'd this were a steer tire on a semi truck. Or any position on a motorcycle, I'd have more concern. And clearly of these are the origional tires on a 2013 toyota... she doesn't drive far....
What the fuck do you guys think happens when a tire blows?
I think you're confusing a "blowout" with getting a flat tire. A blowout can take out a chunk of the bumper. Not usually something you casually pull over and put the spare on for.
Told my wife same thing about dry rotted tires. I Said the tread didn't matter, hit a pot hole and they are done. She didn't listen and I had to get it towed to get 4 new tires put on it from 1 big pothole.
Tires look old and dry rotted, you're taking a chance every time you drive on them. Better make sure that spare tire has air in it. Myself personally will never ever own any Goodyear tire. This is because I bought a 98 Volkswagen Jetta TDI new that had good years all around. Year or so later I had a blowout driving to work and then the same day a second blowout. Right then and there I swore off good year tires. I'm very happy with my eco waterfall tires that I paid about $60 a piece for from Walmart.
Dry rot the natural oils come out of the tire and can cause the tire at its extreme to crumble apart at high speed. ( over 60mph ) While the tires are not at the wear bars they are past their freshness date
Yup. I have a 4x8 that has had the same tires on it for the last 25 years since I built it and they have quite a bit of tread left and they still hold air. **BUT** it won't see road use again until they're replaced... eventually. Until that time it's used on the property and a different trailer with good tires is used for road duty.
Honestly none of those grooves look that deep, I would continue driving them myself until their half past the tread indicator & take it easy in the rain, but I'm just cheap like that.
On behalf of the rest of us who value our lives, please surrender your driver's license to the nearest police station or DMV and never drive again. Those tires are a danger to anyone around her.
Manufactured in May 2013. Those tires are 11 years old. They may have sufficient tread left, but they are getting dry rotted and weather-checked around the sidewall. I'd certainly question the safety of driving on them much longer.
You should be able to find halfway decent tires in 205/55/16 for under $100/ea. And with mounting and balancing it'll probably cost about $450 total, after tax. It's not cheap to replace a set of tires. Maybe $450 is just too much for this woman to spend, if it means cutting into her eyebrow grooming budget.
Telling someone that their tires need to be changed, but not telling them *WHY* the tires need to be changed makes you look like a fool. I imagine this happens to you a lot because she didn't take your advice and went to a shop for a second opinion.
What kind of shop told her these tires are still good? When was the last time she went to that supposed shop?
Forget looking at the year, the sidewall is 1 bad pot hole away from fully blown tire(s) where she would need a tow truck. Even more dangerous are drivers who are not very aware about cars would usually panic or over correct when tire blowout does occur, leading to potential car accident into something or another car or pedestrian.
Some shops hire idiots. Had a customer with tires like this she took it from us to take to her mechanic and he said they were fine. Good thing i had photos and videos because she made a huge stink out of it to our executives. And they aren’t going to look at the car.
The tires got her though, the tire popped and broke a brake hose.
There's still tread left but they're 11 f***** years old.
You can see the dry rot and ozone damage setting in. The rubber is probably hard as a rock so grip isn't gonna be worth a hill of beans.
Can't believe a legit tire shop told her they were fine. Even a half decent mechanic/garage would know better. SMH
Plenty is relative. Should they be replaced. Yes. Could she get some more use out of them. Also yes. They are super sketch on anything but dry pavement.
Car crash investigator here. No shop is going to tell you that 11 year old tires have “plenty of life” regardless of how much tread is left. I’ve also seen cases where driving on tires like that was considered contributory negligence.
I literally just got new tires to replace my old ones that were literally the same age and had cracks just like that. Definitely not worth the safety of others or your self to drive on them.
Old tires slip easily.
I replaced tires with 10/32 tread because they were 7 years old. In the dry they were ok (SUV so not a performance car). In the wet... vehicle went into a nice gentle drift at 70 mph in the rain on a highway.
At 6 years you really ought to replace the tires. After that you're endangering yourself and those around you.
Better to have bald newer tires in the dry than treaded old tires.
The cracking on the sides of the tire allow water to get into the steel cords and allow them to rust. Rusty wire breaks over time. When the cords break the tire comes apart. I learned this the hard way. My F250 had a set of Michelins on it that had 1/2 of the tread left. The sidewalls were weather checked like the photo in the post. Water had caused the cords to rust unbeknown to me. I was doing 70 on the interstate when the steering wheel started to shake. A sudden explosion signaled the tire broke. I had started to slow before it broke but I could not turn the steering wheel since that dead tire was pulling left. It was all I could do to hold it straight. I finally stopped and saw the rusty cords sticking out of the tire. I drove slowly the 100 miles home on the spare and put a new set of tires on the truck the next day.
I suppose those tires will work for a while OP around town at slow speeds but hitting the interstate with them is risking a serious accident. From my experience when tires look like that it's time to replace them.
It's not just thread depth to be concerned about. The age stamp on this tire indicates it was made in 2013 which is supported by the cracking and dry rot showing in the thread and sidewalls. This tire should be replaced.
Honestly I believe her that the shop said "yeah they're fine". When I first opened the first picture I thought they were too. If someone just glanced at it for tread depth real quick, then I can see the shop passing it off as saying it's fine. Then the owner is none the wiser to the death trap they're driving.
I believe it if she went to the dealer. Idk why, but they don’t see old tires as dangerous?? We failed a lady that came in for an inspection because her tires were 7-8 years old. Probably at 7/32nds or so still but there were MASSIVE tire rot cracks in the tread. She had literally just came from the Toyota dealer and so she kept repeating they told her “they’re good until October!”.
We don’t make shit on tires, if anything it’s just metric related. She just kept saying “you sell tires, of course you’re going to push tires” of which I just said the dealer does too, lol. But she kept calling us crooks and shit, just can’t save some people some times. She very well could be completely fine, but our state has awful roads and we genuinely want people to be safe. It really only takes one bad pothole. They passed her at the dealer though, so they just reinforced her misunderstanding.
Had two older cars in the past few years...94 Lexus SC 400 with eight year old tires and a 94 Miata with seven year old tires. Knowing what we had, we took them out to see what happens.
They are mostly plastic...they were loud, and when they let go, they sllliiiidddee. The slide isn't a normal slide, it is a "lets-go" instantly.....
Dangerous....
They are 11 years old and tires have a recommended life span of 10 years. If she can afford it I would start planning to replace them sooner than later as the are starting to weather crack. You don’t want to find out you have a bad tire doing 70 on the highway and have one blow out
Can't fix stupid.
Just avoid it on the roads is all.
Be nice and explain to her **slowly** if you have to that all 4 of these tires are nearly guaranteed to have very little grip in wet weather, not to mention snowy weather as well as the fact that due to the age and cracking and the obvious signs of the one in the photo having been run low on air that any of them could blow out going over a pothole.
Then take her license plate and vehicle description to the local law enforcement next time she comes to your mom for a beauty appointment and let them know where she'll be parked. If you're lucky you live in a jurisdiction that can issue a safety citation for this shit.
Any tire shop will recommend putting tires on a car that has tires that’s over 5years old. There is a whole lot of car places ripping people a new asshole but in this case a tire that is over 5 years old needs to be replaced. Just like condoms if they have been in your pocket for 5 years just throw it away you might not ever get to use it
Those are definitely bad, read the date code. Anything over 6 years need to be chucked regardless of treadlife. Those look like walking ( rolling) time bombs. I had 2 brand new ( less than 5k ) tires on the front of my old Nova. I walk out one Saturday to continue body work and I notice it is listing to the right. Rf tire exploded, pieces everywhere. A new set of ties is not worth a car crash or your life.
my college buddy had an 84 el camino. tires were from the 90s… it had dry rot canyons on the sidewall… and he drove it everyday for a semester like that 🤪 not to mention one wheel peeling in the school parking lot every week 😭 he then bought a new 21 sti and blew the headgasket in the first 15k miles, then drove the el camino for another month. lol im sure these tires are fine.
The rubber is oxidized. The tread looks adequate for a little bit more, but she'd be risking blowouts due to the rubber splitting and losing its elasticity.
Nah mate they're dust. Look at that sidewall dry rot.
See if you can derive their age using the date code, explanation [here](https://www.tirerack.com/upgrade-garage/how-do-i-determine-the-age-of-my-tires?gclid=CjwKCAjwgdayBhBQEiwAXhMxthSnGdSXKKy6Ubn3dQ8NpMcDRd80lxWrdB_qVoEDeeBTxxsgrlA_ORoCMj4QAvD_BwE&ef_id=CjwKCAjwgdayBhBQEiwAXhMxthSnGdSXKKy6Ubn3dQ8NpMcDRd80lxWrdB_qVoEDeeBTxxsgrlA_ORoCMj4QAvD_BwE:G:s&s_kwcid=AL!3756!3!354820920605!e!!g!!tire%20date%20code&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1)
If it's a highschool/college kid, those tires might blowout today.
If it's a senior citizen that never goes faster than 25 MPH on their way to church, those tires might outlive the driver.
My understanding that you are to replace the tires when you start to see those silver straps they put into the tire which makes it easy to know you need a new one..
It was a brilliant idea. Measuring is so subjective, takes it all away.
You either see the replace indicator
or
You don't!
Tires should be recommended by age, condition, tread depth/wear, and any abnormalities present. Based on the photo, you are nearing the tread limit 2/32 and are dry rotten, which suffices enough to have it replaced. You do not want to have a a tire blow out.
The tire dry rot on those is insane. Sure, there's a bit of tread left but that is not the worry. Those are going to burst. No shop would see those and think it's fine.
Tires wear out due to age as well. 6 years is about as far as I'm willing to go. The tread may still have enough depth but the compound dries out negatively affecting performance and comfort. I know modern compounds are complex mixtures but look at what happens to an old rubber band.
They have tread but are very cracked. Guessing they are more than5 years old. The rubber gets old so yes they should be replaced. You don’t wanna have a blowout.
You either swap em out when they are used up(worn down) or at 4 to 6 years or both. Anything older than 6 is a growing risk on the highway. Town wise you're ok
Yeah the moisture comes out of tire and it becomes more slippery with less grip, not to mention they will just kinda fall apart randomly at any given moment. Sometimes you can miss this if you just do a Quick Look at threes and don’t look closely at the tire. The done it and seen others do it, take a Quick Look see the trees and say tire is good.
The Tires were made 1-14-13 that cracking you see is dry rot the tread level is irrelevant at this point your side wall integrity is sketchy af I could get you a set (all 4) starting around $340 + tax (used) and with us as always mounting and balancing is free with the purchase of our tires.
2/32 is legal for commercial trucks..so I'd assume it's fine for passenger vehicles too in most cases. However, when I get to 4/32 I'm banking cash for tires if I don't have it on hand already
11 years old, and the side wall rot; not that they won’t last longer but they become more of a liability the older they get and these certainly aren’t worth the risk they pose to drive on.
They need to be replaced, you would trust an 11 year condom to keep you from getting an STD. But plenty drive on tires until they're completely bald. But a hit to a curb or pot hole will damage that tire easier than a new tire. At my shop we wouldn't service those tires.
Ooooo tell her to go back and get it in writing, so if she is telling truth and she crashes and gets injured or dies her or her family can sue that shop for negligence 😁
I suspect she is lying
Those side walls are dry rotted bro…..replace them asap. A $800 set of tires is better than risking a collision caused by a tire blow out. Gotta weigh out your options.
Tech must of been up front at the time, dropping off the keys at the counter. Sales guy in the office on the phone. Almost 5pm and that lady comes in about tires. Tech takes a look and says, nah there's plenty of life left!
Literally just this morning we had a 2011 Corolla come in with factory tires on it still, then saw this post while scrolling reddit on my lunch break, what a coincidence lmao. The customer declined the tires though.
11 year old tires, cracking, low enough tread that she will hydroplane in a low-to-mid-level rainfall. I mean, there's "plenty of life left" if she wants her life to be short.
As a former 5 year tire technician, Any tire more than 10 years old should be replaced, especially with all of that dry rot. No tire is safe when it gets that old. My shop used to deny any service for tires that were more than 10 years old.
Doubt she ever actually went to the shop. No shop would turn away an easy set of tires
Disagree I worked for a dealership that would pass up on tires all the time it was ridiculous they said unless they are at 3/32 don't bother bringing it to the service manager because the age didn't make it not safe I've never hated the people I worked for more in my life.
Depends on the shop I guess. My dealer starts to recommend tires at 5/32
Eh that's a little early I wouldn't recommend them any earlier then 4/32
6/32"s is yellow on most gauges. You might not be recommending them, but you're absolutely mentioning them.
Cry's in goodyear supercar 3s starting at 7/32"s
Those are kinda different because the tread goes all the way down so they have roughly the similar traction till about 2/32 great tires I might recommend michelin pilot sports over those tires though or the yokahama apex
I usually start planning to set aside money around 6/32 and then buy them at 4/32.
My dealership makes note and gives the tire size and so on at 4/32” and recommends the customer think about looking at replacing sooner than later. We don’t tell them they have to, we just let them know and take notice. If we see secondary rubber or uneven wear we take pictures and send them to them as well.
Did the dealership you worked for just like… hate money?
I never understood it the service manager would say thing like oh they won't buy that, this areas too poor to offer things. it was ridiculous I used to be the marketing manager for a tire shop and things like that were like obviously missed opportunities don't think he was ever trained in sales before they let him loose on his own. Anyway I gave up because my check was the same ether way.
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Yep. Specially when those are over 10 years old and perished.
Perished? I didn't know a tire could do that. 🤷♂️
The more you know 💡
Yeah...those sidewalls have as many cracks in them as the roads in my neighborhood.
The tread literally doesn't even matter, the manufactured date is 11 years ago. Recommended replacement is after seven or eight, department of transportation states no tires over 10 years old should be on the road
Previous DOT inspector here... no it dont
My bad- NHTSA. Get my alphabet orgs mixed up
While there is no specific law, the U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT) recommends replacing passenger car and truck tires every 6 years, regardless of wear. However, they strongly advise that all tires, including spares, should be replaced after 10 years, as a precautionary measure for safety.
They’ll be good up until the point where they self eject the treads off of them
Can confirm. I had perfectly good BF Goodrich tires on my truck, a lot more tread than the picture with zero visible cracks. Tread came off on interstate with little warning. Tires were 9 years old. I watch dates now....
You’re a good friend. They’re a bad shop.
Or mom’s friend is lying. Let’s be real here, she’s trying to save face.
yea she told my mom she went to "her tire shop" but from the looks of it she hasn't visited one in over 10 years. not a chance a tire shop would turn down doing that
Those are 11 years old, now is the time to help out your Mom
You can simply Google the tire size and really cheap deals will pop up, especially for something like a Corolla. I’ve seen them for $35 each at local shops. They won’t be Goodyears but they will be new
This ^ even a set of decent name brand tires for a Corolla will be pretty reasonable
Yea, OP. Pick a day before your day off where your mom has plans. Let out all the air out of one of her tires. Offer to take her car to the tire shop and let her take your car for the day. Then you can get the tire shop to properly inspect the *accident waiting to happen*, and let your mom know.
2013 wtf, call her a liar to her face. No shop would let you leave with those
What makes you think a shop can prevent you from driving away?
They’d try if they could. I had a puncture on brand new tires, took it back to the shop that did the install. They did quite possibly the worst patch job in the world, apparently never took the tire off the rim, there was still a tiny leak. Naturally the tire was unrepairable. They hand me the keys back, the spare is on the car, they told me there’s a sale online and come back when the tire is delivered. They’d hold onto my tire and rim for convenience. Ummm… sure OK. I pull out of the lot, realize the game they’re playing, turn right back in, politely request that my tire is put back in my car, and drive straight to a local cash-only shop and do a proper patch for $30. Scummy place. Never again. Edit: I now realize you meant holding for safety reasons, not necessarily as leverage. Oh well, post is staying.
They would at least make them sign a waiver. I worked at a shop as an alignment tech and a flat tire repair got the tire tech and the shop in hot water due to the age of the tire. After that the manager was waiver happy.
I worked for a shop that insisted I fix tires from 2003. Some shops genuinely believe it's fine as long as it holds air, especially bad with small town or rural/farm areas. Thank God I'm not working there anymore :/
They’re old date wise. I would use them but wouldn’t let my wife, daughter or grandparents use them.
This is how I feel about all vehicle maintenance issues 😬 I’d drive it, away from other traffic and reasonable speeds but there’s no way in hell my wife or kids are riding with me, much less letting my wife drive it.
So you recognize they too hazardous for your wife or daughter to use, but have no problem driving them yourself on a shared road where you might kill someone else's wife or daughter?
Some people know how to drive in situations and some panic and don’t…. New tires can blow out (Firestone etc.) or get a nail, cut, pothole. Would I do it now, probably not, or for long. When I was young and broke broke, yes.
It's kinda like driving in winter weather. Drive more cautiously and not panic or be surprised.
Not the guy you asked, but between driving large trucks in not ideal situations, to off-road rigs, to vehicles with tires that have blown out or fallen off- yeah. Me personally if money was tight enough I’d drive on these. difference is I know how to handle a blowout, I also understand being extra careful in maintaining precise air pressure and making sure the tires aren’t running to hot. not to be the “I can land a plane” guy, but I could run those tires and handle a blow out especially in a small fwd car and maintain the lane. which is better then tens of cars I see every single day driving perfectly functional vehicles. But I wouldn’t let someone I care about who doesn’t have those experiences drive someone with tires that most likely are leaking air and are very susceptible to a blow out if ran low.
If she lied to you it was for a reason. She may not have the funds to replace them right now. Let her save face and don’t call her out on it.
if that's the case then her priorities are wrong. she comes to my mom to get eyelashes done which is about $60 or so every 2 weeks. Id mentioned the tires months ago and they've only gotten more and more rotted
Women ☕️
If she's a client of your mom, I wouldn't push this with her. She might stop spending money with your mom.
yea after the first time mentioning i was just like oh well you do you. hopefully if one blows she doesn't damage anyone else's property or especially injure anyone else
If this person is just going to their routine stuff around town these are certainly bad, but the risk is low. The real danger is speed, or extended travel times. So so long as the person isnt going on the highway id give them a pass. That said you should make them aware of that danger so should they find themselves in a situation where they need to go somewhere far, they give themselves enough time to rent a car or get these replaced
Never met a tire shop that didn't want to make a sale.
She lied
With cracking like that the tire’s flexibility is compromised, and if the tire gets hot enough she could suffer tread separation while driving, a very dangerous condition. If she can’t get them replaced right now, suggest short trips only, preferably early morning and night only. Absolutely no highway driving.
Some of yall ain't never blown a tire, and it shows. What happens on family guy isn't the same as what happens in real life. I've personally blown 2 tires myself (steer and rear) and guess what happened.! I didn't spin out of control, flip into oncoming traffic,.and spontaneously combust... I pulled over, and changed the tire. I've been in aa vehicle when my dad was driving as a kid... same scenario, pulled over and changed the tire. I've been in a 70s grain truck with a steer tire that popped. You'll never guess the horrific outcome of that one.!!! I've even had newer, really good condition tires blow during normal driving situations, no signs whatsoever. I'd imagine a road debris got ran over or something. I'd this were a steer tire on a semi truck. Or any position on a motorcycle, I'd have more concern. And clearly of these are the origional tires on a 2013 toyota... she doesn't drive far.... What the fuck do you guys think happens when a tire blows?
I think you're confusing a "blowout" with getting a flat tire. A blowout can take out a chunk of the bumper. Not usually something you casually pull over and put the spare on for.
Told my wife same thing about dry rotted tires. I Said the tread didn't matter, hit a pot hole and they are done. She didn't listen and I had to get it towed to get 4 new tires put on it from 1 big pothole.
DOT reads the 20th week of 2013. She needs new tires.
Dry rot + highway = death
Old tires killed Paul Walker. Besides the sidewall rot, the rubber has broken down and hardened. Those will handle like total garbage
Tires look old and dry rotted, you're taking a chance every time you drive on them. Better make sure that spare tire has air in it. Myself personally will never ever own any Goodyear tire. This is because I bought a 98 Volkswagen Jetta TDI new that had good years all around. Year or so later I had a blowout driving to work and then the same day a second blowout. Right then and there I swore off good year tires. I'm very happy with my eco waterfall tires that I paid about $60 a piece for from Walmart.
Those are 11 years old, i wouldnt want them on anyones car. Should have been 7 years ago. Tell your moms friend if she values her life to replace them
Dry rot the natural oils come out of the tire and can cause the tire at its extreme to crumble apart at high speed. ( over 60mph ) While the tires are not at the wear bars they are past their freshness date
Those tires are dry rotting.
The treads are fine but it's a 11 year old tire and dry rotting
Those are ten years old at least. 😟
dot shows 11 years
My bad I was looking at it upside down wrong.
Get them replaced immediately .
that's what i said. i couldn't imagine any shop said those were good to go. i used to work at a tire shop and those are far beyond their life
I have had trailer tires that tread looks brand new but not the dry rot.
Yup. I have a 4x8 that has had the same tires on it for the last 25 years since I built it and they have quite a bit of tread left and they still hold air. **BUT** it won't see road use again until they're replaced... eventually. Until that time it's used on the property and a different trailer with good tires is used for road duty.
Never go back to that shop 💀💀
11 Year old tires wow
Their looking good for being that old
They do at first glance but they’re super cracked, and there’s probably degradation we can’t see due to the age
Honestly none of those grooves look that deep, I would continue driving them myself until their half past the tread indicator & take it easy in the rain, but I'm just cheap like that.
On behalf of the rest of us who value our lives, please surrender your driver's license to the nearest police station or DMV and never drive again. Those tires are a danger to anyone around her.
Yeah those need to go. Get some new ones on there asap
Eek. Did you explain dry rot to her, maybe she is looking at tread depth only?
Manufactured in May 2013. Those tires are 11 years old. They may have sufficient tread left, but they are getting dry rotted and weather-checked around the sidewall. I'd certainly question the safety of driving on them much longer. You should be able to find halfway decent tires in 205/55/16 for under $100/ea. And with mounting and balancing it'll probably cost about $450 total, after tax. It's not cheap to replace a set of tires. Maybe $450 is just too much for this woman to spend, if it means cutting into her eyebrow grooming budget.
Telling someone that their tires need to be changed, but not telling them *WHY* the tires need to be changed makes you look like a fool. I imagine this happens to you a lot because she didn't take your advice and went to a shop for a second opinion.
What kind of shop told her these tires are still good? When was the last time she went to that supposed shop? Forget looking at the year, the sidewall is 1 bad pot hole away from fully blown tire(s) where she would need a tow truck. Even more dangerous are drivers who are not very aware about cars would usually panic or over correct when tire blowout does occur, leading to potential car accident into something or another car or pedestrian.
WHAT THE HELL SHOP SAID THAT LOL
Bald and rot
Ive driven on older tires it’ll be fine till they aren’t
No shop would tell her they were safe, shes; mom friend is FOS Mom needs not get into her friends car ever
I'd be scared to drive that car to be honest. Those tires are getting ready to remove themselves from the vehicle.
Some shops hire idiots. Had a customer with tires like this she took it from us to take to her mechanic and he said they were fine. Good thing i had photos and videos because she made a huge stink out of it to our executives. And they aren’t going to look at the car. The tires got her though, the tire popped and broke a brake hose.
Lol those are definitely not good tires. Invest in new ones. Dont drive too fast with those old things.
Can’t fix stupid
That is a sidewall blowout or tread separation waiting to happen. Hands down the most dangerous types of tire failures.
There's still tread left but they're 11 f***** years old. You can see the dry rot and ozone damage setting in. The rubber is probably hard as a rock so grip isn't gonna be worth a hill of beans. Can't believe a legit tire shop told her they were fine. Even a half decent mechanic/garage would know better. SMH
Lots of dry rot. Should get new 😳😳
My dad has the same tire for 12 years for yaris. Last year, force him to replace dam tires. Goodyear, too. So dam dangerous.
What freaking mechanic told her that? They're all fucking dry rotted LOL
Plenty is relative. Should they be replaced. Yes. Could she get some more use out of them. Also yes. They are super sketch on anything but dry pavement.
Car crash investigator here. No shop is going to tell you that 11 year old tires have “plenty of life” regardless of how much tread is left. I’ve also seen cases where driving on tires like that was considered contributory negligence.
Plenty is a relative term lol
2013? That is 5 years past they were too old
I literally just got new tires to replace my old ones that were literally the same age and had cracks just like that. Definitely not worth the safety of others or your self to drive on them.
In a hot place like vegas , general guideline is that they’re done after 5-6 years; no tire repairs if it’s seen it’s 4th birthday.
Old tires slip easily. I replaced tires with 10/32 tread because they were 7 years old. In the dry they were ok (SUV so not a performance car). In the wet... vehicle went into a nice gentle drift at 70 mph in the rain on a highway. At 6 years you really ought to replace the tires. After that you're endangering yourself and those around you. Better to have bald newer tires in the dry than treaded old tires.
The cracking on the sides of the tire allow water to get into the steel cords and allow them to rust. Rusty wire breaks over time. When the cords break the tire comes apart. I learned this the hard way. My F250 had a set of Michelins on it that had 1/2 of the tread left. The sidewalls were weather checked like the photo in the post. Water had caused the cords to rust unbeknown to me. I was doing 70 on the interstate when the steering wheel started to shake. A sudden explosion signaled the tire broke. I had started to slow before it broke but I could not turn the steering wheel since that dead tire was pulling left. It was all I could do to hold it straight. I finally stopped and saw the rusty cords sticking out of the tire. I drove slowly the 100 miles home on the spare and put a new set of tires on the truck the next day. I suppose those tires will work for a while OP around town at slow speeds but hitting the interstate with them is risking a serious accident. From my experience when tires look like that it's time to replace them.
Women going to the tire shop gets turned away!?! Yeah, she never gone.
Dry rot...change them
Death tires
They are past the date age they need to be replace you can see them cracking on the pic with dot
Get those tires changed ASAP. No reputable tire store will touch those for any type of service except to buy new ones on
Goodyears are known to last forever I thought everyone knew this? Man my 2006’s are still crisp!
Just 11 years old, what's the problem?
It's not just thread depth to be concerned about. The age stamp on this tire indicates it was made in 2013 which is supported by the cracking and dry rot showing in the thread and sidewalls. This tire should be replaced.
The date code and the dry rot is enough to need new tires 3 years ago. Whoever the shop is needs to be put on blast.
If it’s not down to the wear bars, it’s probably safe. I do see a little bit of weather checking.
Those tires are rotten, and probably a safety risk on the highway - used tires are way more affordable and Corolla size is very common
11 years old and dry rotting. I would replace them.
Zoom in for mild-to-sever weather cracking
Honestly I believe her that the shop said "yeah they're fine". When I first opened the first picture I thought they were too. If someone just glanced at it for tread depth real quick, then I can see the shop passing it off as saying it's fine. Then the owner is none the wiser to the death trap they're driving.
They look fine tread wise but you are right to be looking out for them
They are dry rotted to hell And tred is on the nub They are a grenade waiting to blow
I believe it if she went to the dealer. Idk why, but they don’t see old tires as dangerous?? We failed a lady that came in for an inspection because her tires were 7-8 years old. Probably at 7/32nds or so still but there were MASSIVE tire rot cracks in the tread. She had literally just came from the Toyota dealer and so she kept repeating they told her “they’re good until October!”. We don’t make shit on tires, if anything it’s just metric related. She just kept saying “you sell tires, of course you’re going to push tires” of which I just said the dealer does too, lol. But she kept calling us crooks and shit, just can’t save some people some times. She very well could be completely fine, but our state has awful roads and we genuinely want people to be safe. It really only takes one bad pothole. They passed her at the dealer though, so they just reinforced her misunderstanding.
Had two older cars in the past few years...94 Lexus SC 400 with eight year old tires and a 94 Miata with seven year old tires. Knowing what we had, we took them out to see what happens. They are mostly plastic...they were loud, and when they let go, they sllliiiidddee. The slide isn't a normal slide, it is a "lets-go" instantly..... Dangerous....
They are from 2013 and are dry rotted they need to be replaced
They are 11 years old and tires have a recommended life span of 10 years. If she can afford it I would start planning to replace them sooner than later as the are starting to weather crack. You don’t want to find out you have a bad tire doing 70 on the highway and have one blow out
Can't fix stupid. Just avoid it on the roads is all. Be nice and explain to her **slowly** if you have to that all 4 of these tires are nearly guaranteed to have very little grip in wet weather, not to mention snowy weather as well as the fact that due to the age and cracking and the obvious signs of the one in the photo having been run low on air that any of them could blow out going over a pothole. Then take her license plate and vehicle description to the local law enforcement next time she comes to your mom for a beauty appointment and let them know where she'll be parked. If you're lucky you live in a jurisdiction that can issue a safety citation for this shit.
Old and dry rotted, immediate replace.
Yeah, no, they’re bad.
No shop would tell her that
Those tires are 11yrs old they need gone asap
Buy her some new tires. You owe her a set (my guess is that she bought you a set)
They are most definitely bad need to be replaced asap
Any tire shop will recommend putting tires on a car that has tires that’s over 5years old. There is a whole lot of car places ripping people a new asshole but in this case a tire that is over 5 years old needs to be replaced. Just like condoms if they have been in your pocket for 5 years just throw it away you might not ever get to use it
At bare minimum put 2 new front tires on the car. If this was my mom I would have her new tires on the car if I had to pay the bill.
They wrong
Sherlock says seems like dry rot Watson!
Yea until the end of a life
Lots of tread left but no life. Lol. Clearly, whoever looked just looked at the tread
Those are definitely bad, read the date code. Anything over 6 years need to be chucked regardless of treadlife. Those look like walking ( rolling) time bombs. I had 2 brand new ( less than 5k ) tires on the front of my old Nova. I walk out one Saturday to continue body work and I notice it is listing to the right. Rf tire exploded, pieces everywhere. A new set of ties is not worth a car crash or your life.
I just run em till they blow💀💀
How old are the tires? If over 4 years old with that cracking on the sidewalls… might be good to replace them.
my college buddy had an 84 el camino. tires were from the 90s… it had dry rot canyons on the sidewall… and he drove it everyday for a semester like that 🤪 not to mention one wheel peeling in the school parking lot every week 😭 he then bought a new 21 sti and blew the headgasket in the first 15k miles, then drove the el camino for another month. lol im sure these tires are fine.
The rubber is oxidized. The tread looks adequate for a little bit more, but she'd be risking blowouts due to the rubber splitting and losing its elasticity.
The dry-rot is strong in this one.
Nah mate they're dust. Look at that sidewall dry rot. See if you can derive their age using the date code, explanation [here](https://www.tirerack.com/upgrade-garage/how-do-i-determine-the-age-of-my-tires?gclid=CjwKCAjwgdayBhBQEiwAXhMxthSnGdSXKKy6Ubn3dQ8NpMcDRd80lxWrdB_qVoEDeeBTxxsgrlA_ORoCMj4QAvD_BwE&ef_id=CjwKCAjwgdayBhBQEiwAXhMxthSnGdSXKKy6Ubn3dQ8NpMcDRd80lxWrdB_qVoEDeeBTxxsgrlA_ORoCMj4QAvD_BwE:G:s&s_kwcid=AL!3756!3!354820920605!e!!g!!tire%20date%20code&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1)
Keep driving them till they pop. Might as well since you waited this long.
I’d ask them to define plenty
Technically you’re both right
Those are toast on age alone
The amount of rot and lack of tread tells me the car did not get seen at a tire shop.
The sidewall cracking concerns me not the tread
If it's a highschool/college kid, those tires might blowout today. If it's a senior citizen that never goes faster than 25 MPH on their way to church, those tires might outlive the driver.
My understanding that you are to replace the tires when you start to see those silver straps they put into the tire which makes it easy to know you need a new one.. It was a brilliant idea. Measuring is so subjective, takes it all away. You either see the replace indicator or You don't!
Tires should be recommended by age, condition, tread depth/wear, and any abnormalities present. Based on the photo, you are nearing the tread limit 2/32 and are dry rotten, which suffices enough to have it replaced. You do not want to have a a tire blow out.
Those tires not only are dry rotted like a mother fucker AND have LOW tread... but they're 11 years old lol.
That shop is smoking crack if she went thats a pretty cut and dry set of tires, no one is turning that money away.
Well let, her die!
I’ve taken my car once when my tire wasn’t even bad just to see my options and was told I need to get a second mortgage to get new set of tires.
The tires aren't 'bald' but cracking and aged. I would replace ASAP
They are dry rotted you can see the cracks in the tires. If they aren’t bald they need new ones regardless!!
The tire dry rot on those is insane. Sure, there's a bit of tread left but that is not the worry. Those are going to burst. No shop would see those and think it's fine.
They're pretty dry rotted they done.
Good to go to tire recycling and be replaced
Tires wear out due to age as well. 6 years is about as far as I'm willing to go. The tread may still have enough depth but the compound dries out negatively affecting performance and comfort. I know modern compounds are complex mixtures but look at what happens to an old rubber band.
They have tread but are very cracked. Guessing they are more than5 years old. The rubber gets old so yes they should be replaced. You don’t wanna have a blowout.
Also remember type of tire if it’s a rated or not
No, they're still good. Those cracks aren't dry rot, it's just wrinkles from the tire getting a little old.
Not a professional tire shop!
Dry rot!!
They're GoodYear. Good for about a year!
Good tires
It's a fukkin Corolla the tires are fine
You either swap em out when they are used up(worn down) or at 4 to 6 years or both. Anything older than 6 is a growing risk on the highway. Town wise you're ok
Tires are getting dry rotted. From the close up you see the small cracks in the tires.
I just go till they blow! 🤣🤣
Tread life maybe, not sidewall life, I've never let my sidewalls get that bad.
Yeah the moisture comes out of tire and it becomes more slippery with less grip, not to mention they will just kinda fall apart randomly at any given moment. Sometimes you can miss this if you just do a Quick Look at threes and don’t look closely at the tire. The done it and seen others do it, take a Quick Look see the trees and say tire is good.
She being cheap didnt go to shop def need replacing with dri rot on sidewalls
The Tires were made 1-14-13 that cracking you see is dry rot the tread level is irrelevant at this point your side wall integrity is sketchy af I could get you a set (all 4) starting around $340 + tax (used) and with us as always mounting and balancing is free with the purchase of our tires.
2/32 is legal for commercial trucks..so I'd assume it's fine for passenger vehicles too in most cases. However, when I get to 4/32 I'm banking cash for tires if I don't have it on hand already
11 years old, and the side wall rot; not that they won’t last longer but they become more of a liability the older they get and these certainly aren’t worth the risk they pose to drive on.
They need to be replaced, you would trust an 11 year condom to keep you from getting an STD. But plenty drive on tires until they're completely bald. But a hit to a curb or pot hole will damage that tire easier than a new tire. At my shop we wouldn't service those tires.
Those tires are ten years old. Demand she tell you what shop so you can sue them when her tires explode
Helen Keller’s tire shop?
No freakin way a shop would turn away biz! They try to replace my tires just months after selling me a new pair 😳
Tell her to find a better shop.
Ooooo tell her to go back and get it in writing, so if she is telling truth and she crashes and gets injured or dies her or her family can sue that shop for negligence 😁 I suspect she is lying
Cracks appearing in the rubber whether in the side walls or tread are dangerous and can be defected . Change them regardless of tread left
DAMN 2013 lol and looks like dry rot or cracking (might be the same thing)
Those side walls are dry rotted bro…..replace them asap. A $800 set of tires is better than risking a collision caused by a tire blow out. Gotta weigh out your options.
You need to replace those just by the dry rot and date code.
Rotted, replace 🧐
Tech must of been up front at the time, dropping off the keys at the counter. Sales guy in the office on the phone. Almost 5pm and that lady comes in about tires. Tech takes a look and says, nah there's plenty of life left!
11 year old tires😬 it’s clearly dry rotted and definitely should be replaced
Definitely may pops! "May pop anytime "
The tires have cracks for dry rot. She needs to change them asap and they will crumble while driving and cause serious injury to herself & others
Severe weather cracks all around the tire and 11 years old. Get rid of them.
Literally just this morning we had a 2011 Corolla come in with factory tires on it still, then saw this post while scrolling reddit on my lunch break, what a coincidence lmao. The customer declined the tires though.
11 year old tires, cracking, low enough tread that she will hydroplane in a low-to-mid-level rainfall. I mean, there's "plenty of life left" if she wants her life to be short.
Them is some old azz tired. What could possible go wrong other than delaminate.
The cracking on the side is the most worrying part, if they said it was good, it’s because they also have a towing company bro. Change them…
They look dry rotted
As a former 5 year tire technician, Any tire more than 10 years old should be replaced, especially with all of that dry rot. No tire is safe when it gets that old. My shop used to deny any service for tires that were more than 10 years old.
that tire is nearly 11 years old, I suggest you replace it asap
Those tires are over 11 years old by the date code in the pic. They need to be changed no matter how much tread is left.