T O P

  • By -

eyes0fred

literally the girl next door, vs girl your dad basically adopted, who lived with you. ok man.


Superb_Fun_4688

CW Flash be like


TeaIndependent2220

I don't know who is more worse and annoying : Mikasa or Iris ? I guess both have something in common after all.


Superb_Fun_4688

I’d argue Iris is worse because they actually ended up having kids, unless Ereh and Mikasa had a little fun in the cabin


murcielagoXO

"WE are the Attack Titan, Eren."


TeaIndependent2220

**"No , I don't want that"**


Fearless_Mortgage_75

Iris as annoying as Mikasa is she atleast actually has made contributions to fights.


MandelAomine

Pinako basically adopted both Ed and Al after Trisha's death lmao


frodo_smaggins

ed and al still lived in their parents old house though, they would just go over to pinako’s for dinner and shit


GoWBouncer

Still makes Pinako their guardian since theyre kids. In fact, Pinako considered them as her grandkids and Winry considered them as brothers and vise versa


BoleroCuantico

“Basically adopted” lol


4valentin

Isayama himself said that Eren saw Mikasa as a mother figure, not to mention the fact that his dad called her his daughter. She was adopted and became family and they lived as a family. They very much had a sibling relationship and a year of living under the same roof is a long time, not a hotel where you stay for 3 days. Would’ve 2+ years made a difference or what?


Weird-Hunter-2274

fr, the way mikasa panders to eren like an older sister is the reason eren keeps telling her to stop treating him like a little brother; literal sibling dynamic


vicucha

Exactly, the Japanese have no issue admitting eremika being family even if it turned romantic. It's the western fans that are in denial because they clearly don't like that their ship were adopted siblings and not purely nor always romantic.


Lifelinemain420

Eren tbh was most likely a psychopath.


Inside_Boot8191

He doesn't really act like one. A Sociopath? Maybe.


Lifelinemain420

🤷‍♂️


Independent-Couple87

>Isayama himself said that Eren saw Mikasa as a mother figure To be fair, a common thing women say is that men ALWAYS see their girlfriend as a "Mother Figure" to them.


saverma192013

Ok


Like_A_Fallen_Angel

Ed and Al fought when they were kids to see who get to marry Winry, He always had a crush on her. On the other side Yams himself said Eren saw Mikasa as a Sister/Mother figure, it's his own damn fault to make it weird


GoWBouncer

"Im not your kid or little brother" S1 btw


Like_A_Fallen_Angel

Yes, let's put the words of the unreliable fictional charater over his own creator why don't we.


Prior_Assistant6032

Both are as unreliable if you ask me but EDs wouldn't dare to question him.


Like_A_Fallen_Angel

They sure are, but Eren is fictional. He can only say whatever Yams wants for him to say. That's what i meant when i said "It's his own damn fault", he should have picked a lane either he loves her as a sister/mother figure or he loves her as a romantic partner. In fact, the more i think about it i realized, most of the problems of the manga lies on Yams wanting to have his cake and eat it too


GoWBouncer

“Unreliable” when it’s the main fictional character of the writer we’re talking about saying something that’s completely goes against what you say. It’s tough to accept I know. If you actually *read* the interview at hand you’d actually see that it was something that Isayama wanted Eren to stray away from which is kinda congruent with what happened in what I cited. Crazy right? “He should have picked a lane” -*continues to ignore the blatant evidence that destroys your headcanon*


Steiner-Titor

OP thanks for proving that you haven't seen FMA. If you did, you'd know Pinako didn't adopt them. Ed and Als mom died, then "That" happened. Hohenheim deserted them(obviously for the Grand plan). Winry was never ever seen as a sister. She was their childhood friend who lost her parents too so she was sympathetic to Ed and Al.


ChewBaka12

Indeed. And while some say that Pinako took care of them and they are therefore family, those people are wrong. We know that sometime after the death of Trisha they went away for some time to >!apprentice to Izumi!<, and that after that they started working on reviving Trisha, which was only possible because they lived alone. Only after the failed transmutation did they start staying with the Rockbells for Ed’s recovery. Depending on how long you assume those breaks to be, they probably lived no longer than 2 years together. Versus Mikasa and Eren who, contrary to the post, spend around 7 years togethe. The pseudo adoption was at 8 and the fall of Shiganshima at 9, and while they weren’t in a family setting for the years afterwards they did spend all of their time together for the next 6 years until the moment in the meme, which is more than can be said for the FMA(B) pair since Ed is notoriously bad at keeping in contact and they spend most of their time apart


TeaIndependent2220

Does how much year they spent together really matters cause I ain't fucking a girl who my parents adopted and used to call her "Their daughter" (Grisha in that cave) , and Eren always treated her as a annoying sister rather than some lovesick lover , Eren saw Mikasa just like how Denji treated and seen power as .


Amazing-Cry-6388

>and Eren always treated her as a annoying sister Eren tells Mikasa verbatim "I'm not your little brother". It's Mikasa who acts like the older, protective sister, to which Eren reacts by reminding her that's not what she is to him.


BlueHeather88

I find it weird to actually fall for someone who treats you like a younger sibling tbw.


FruitJuicante

They're adopted siblings. You are correct, they are brother and sister but not by blood. They share a father but not by blood. It is absolutely fine for Mikasa to nonconsensually kiss Erena corpse to thank him for genocide.


Amazing-Cry-6388

... W h a t My man you are drunk, go home


FruitJuicante

Does Grisha not call Mikasa his daughter?


Dat_life_on_Mars

He referred to her as daughter-in-law. Wait, what do you mean you didn't hear the in-laws part? Oh right, only us Eldians heard it through the founding titan.


Amazing-Cry-6388

How does this challenge the fact that Eren doesn't see her as his own sister? And you also went off on that tangent about non-consensual kiss earlier on, like why just why


Inside_Boot8191

I'm lost why you getting downvoted. And don't get how it's okay for Mikasa to nonconsensually kiss Eren's corpse...


Amazing-Cry-6388

Ok, real talk: the "Eren was kissed nonconsensually" argument is in the same league as the argument that Sleeping Beauty was kissed nonconsensually, hence making it immoral. It's a bit ridiculous if you ask me. Especially when you keep in mind how it's depicted in the story. Like, have you ever been in a mortuary? Maybe a relatively crowded one? Cause kissing and caressing the body before it gets cremated or buried is perfectly normal.


Inside_Boot8191

It ain't relatively the same buddy. And the sleeping beauty is questionable in itself also. Couldn't have brought up a better example? Sheesh.


Amazing-Cry-6388

If that's how you see it, there's not much common ground that can be found. I personally find the Twitter debates surrounding the Sleeping Beauty "issue" entirely laughable


Naruku_Senpai3861

One is stepsis and other is childhood friend


KaiserSenpaiAckerman

This makes me feel like some people in this fandom doesn't understand how relationships work.


wickedlittleidiot

They don’t 😞


KaiserSenpaiAckerman

I believe it now, some dude made a post about me about it. 💀 🤣 I'm gonna guess some of these people are young.


Succububbly

Exactly, these people would go nuts with Star Wars. People are grossed out by Anakin/Obi and Anakin/Ahsoka not just because of the age gap (Anakin and Ahsoka have the same age gap as Anakin and Padme), but because padawan/jedi relationships are supposed to be student/teacher AND parent/child, with some being more elder sibling/younger sibling. You dont need the damn story to spell it out for you (Though Ahsoka did call Anakin brother in S7) for you to understand their bond is familiar and a potential relationship would be emorionally incestuous in nature.


No_Relationship9789

Whoever ship Ahsoka and Anakin are honestly weird as fuck. Their relationship was clearly a sibling one. Whoever sees it as a romantic one needs to get checked. That's ridiculous


Succububbly

Honestly all Jedi/Padawan relationships are pretty much like Nani and Lilo, older sibling that has to take on a parental role wlth their younger sibling.


Character_Stock376

Lmao ed and al were friends of winry, she was their neighbour. Those 2 fought over who would get to marry winry, ed and al were also 12 and 11 years old (i think) when they had their little transmutation. So at that age they left their homes (or the home of winry). They also never saw winry as a siter but eren and mikasa had that sibling relationship lmao.


dbelow_

Mikasa and Eren were together as siblings for ten years at least!


reasonable00

The only problem with EreMika is Isayama being a gigantic pussy and, as we have seen, terrible at writing romance.


CandidoJ13

Ed never saw winry as sister tho


GoWBouncer

You did not watch fmab lmao. he did


Haizeanei

In both cases, they're not blood-related siblings. I've never really understood why there's such insistence on incest when it's pretty clear it doesn't exist. The Eremika story is inconsistent enough on its own without the need to dig further.


Uragami

Because Yams himself said that Eren sees Mikasa as a sister/mother. He made it weird.


Haizeanei

More than weird, I'd say it's incoherent. Seeing Mikasa as a mother doesn't make Mikasa his mother. There's no blood tie between them, so there's no incest or moral issue. Incest is just a harsh word used to despise this ship. What he said just shows there was a change of opinion, and only Ymir nose what made Isayama think it made sense.


FruitJuicante

Agreed. They are adopted siblings. They share a father but not by blood. It's perfectly fine for Mikasa to nonconsensually kiss his corpse to thank him for genocide.


Haizeanei

That's another topic 😅😅😅😅


FruitJuicante

And how!!


Inside_Boot8191

Wdym it's okay for her to nonconsensually kiss him? The hell? I don't think that's okay regardless of the context. It's weird. And messed up.


Mountain_Anxiety_492

Mikasa didn’t once and never in the final chapter act grateful or thanking Eren for genociding the world. It was Armin in the manga and the others like Reiner Annie Jean and Connie literally cried in tears because his mom turned back and Eren wishing for them to live a long happy life.


Independent-Couple87

Isayama also said that he did not understand the Childhood Friend Romance trope He later married his childhood friend.


Ramja9

Less than a year? That can’t be true. Mikasa was tiny when her mother died.


Weird-Hunter-2274

they were only 9 when shinganshina was first attacked so it checks out


Sad_Watch_5245

But mikasa wasn't still living with eren even later? In s1 when they're using odms they have 15 years but before it she still was living with eren.


Weird-Hunter-2274

i’m not completely sure what you’re talking about but 8 yo: mikasa lost her parents and started living with eren 9yo: shiganshina attack 9-12: EMA all lived together in a settlement place doing production work 12-15: cadet training and then by the time trost gets attacked they’re all 15


Sad_Watch_5245

>9-12: EMA all lived together in a settlement place doing production work That what I meant They lived together more than 1 year


Weird-Hunter-2274

yeah ur right. even more technically speaking they live together longer bc they all the cadets/soldiers live in the same barracks


Sad_Watch_5245

Yup and having grisha as their dad and later hannes as a type of grandfather 💀💀💀


Weird-Hunter-2274

hannes as a grandfather’s such a violation😭😭 at least let him be the fun drunk uncle


BoleroCuantico

??? Do you read what you write?


Weird-Hunter-2274

technically the “living together for less than a year” isn’t true taking into account their time at the settlement but i assume the post is talking about how long eren and mikasa lived together with eren’s parents (family setting)


Sad_Watch_5245

The 1 season when they're using odms they have 15 years.


No-Eggplant2367

I was an eremika but when I read chapter 138 and 139..


Standard-Heron6492

Me too


Majinken__

They didn't live in the same fucking house, nor did the Elrics adopt her as one of them. Not to mention AoT WISHES it had the level of the worst FMA chapter. Heck, even FMA 2003 is a better show.


Dat_life_on_Mars

Pinako kinda adopted the Elrics after their mom died. Even if they didn't stay over all the time, they spent plenty together. Neither case can truly be fully siblings anyway. Mikasa still kept her Ackerman last name.


unhinged_ereri

Mikasa doesn’t need to change her last name though. It’s not a requirement. She can still be adopted.


Dekatater

I love reading the insane coping that goes into justifying this garbage ship. Y'all are just making shit up to justify it lmao The human mind is truly a wonder


JadenD12

this has to be bait


Mountain_Anxiety_492

I made a post about it and I mentioned my problem with them is not them being siblings but other reasons,still a cute looking ship if you don’t think deep about it. https://www.reddit.com/r/titanfolk/comments/1buwbz9/what_if_the_problem_with_eremika_is_their_isnt/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


Gandalf_TheNoir

I also hated the relationship between Violet Evergarden and Major Gilbert because he basically raised her. Like when I was first watching it, I thought they had a father/daughter relationship, which the wikis confirmed, and then it became a romantic thing? Ew.


pepi_nabong

Marrying my adopted sister to own the r/titanfolk subreddit


someloserontheground

Yeah as others have pointed out they're completely different scenarios. Mikasa's parents died and she was adopted into Eren's family, Winry was a neighbour and childhood crush, that's not even close to the same thing. Edward was also pretty young when he had his mishap and left to become a military alchemist.


BlackReaper_1911

Man I love Ed and Winry, gotta rewatch FMAB


FruitJuicante

I mean, Grisha called Eren his son and Mikasa his daughter. Hell  Eren canonically saw Mikasa as his mother figure.  They are by definition adopted siblings. The only kiss they ever had was when one of them was dead having just committed genocide.  If pro genocide adopted sibling fuckers enjoy it... that's... I mean go for it?


Independent-Couple87

>Eren canonically saw Mikasa as his mother figure. A common thing said by women is that men ALWAYS see their girlfriend as their "Mother Figure". >If pro genocide adopted sibling fuckers enjoy it... that's... I mean go for it? This reminds me of The Legend of Korra. The antagonist of Season 4, Kuvira, is a conqueror whose boyfriend is also her adoptive brother (she was raised by his mother).


FruitJuicante

Horrendous fart


KaiserSenpaiAckerman

As a person who grew up in the same foster home for YEARS, I never understood the Eren x Mikasa = incest thing. Did I get with any of my foster brothers? Of course not. But I understand a traditional foster home system vs what was displayed in AoT with Eren x Mikasa. They didn't take baths together, they didn't spend several holidays together, we don't even know if they shared a bed. They were a "foster family" for a little over a year, they were "older" kids, it's not like they spent years together since they were toddlers. No "real" family connection can be made that quickly. We know Mikasa loved and respected the Yeagers, but their family "level" wasn't high enough to say Eren getting with Mikasa would be incest. Hell, my son is 5 and my neighbors daughter is 4. We hangout daily to the point me and my husband are Auntie/Uncle to their daughter and they're Auntie/Unlce to my son, they've been playing together since they were 2 and 3. If they got together, does that make it incest? Of course not. We even baby sit eachother kids, the kids are together often, way more than Eren x Mikasa was.


Amazing-Cry-6388

It is legitemately worrisome that some people believe the incest stuff to be a sound argument


KaiserSenpaiAckerman

I see tons of people use "But it's incest!" As an argument, and it blows my mind man. They can't be serious right?


Amazing-Cry-6388

>They can't be serious right? That's what I'm hoping😅


Independent-Couple87

>As a person who grew up in the same foster home for YEARS This reminds me of The Promised Neverland. Basically all the children in the farm see eachother as siblings, with Norman's crush on Emma being the ONLY exception.


K4T4N4B0Y

Man tf is wrong with falling for a childhood friend, there are a lot of people who plows their cousins, not saying is right, but isn't far of reality.


Darkasknight101

Brother, they lived together 🗿


MyWifeIsMyCoworker

Eren and Mikasa have a terrible relationship but it’s not anything relating to incest. It’s simply a power dynamic issue which makes it so unhealthy and bound for self-destruction under the right conditions. Meaning, a literal brother and sister could be in a romantic relationship and it would still be more healthier than Eren and Mikasa, one being a slave to another both emotionally and physically if you count her Ackerman blood being a factor.


Think_Accident8641

Neither can count as incest imo. Eren and Mikasa are not related by blood. So it's not really incest. Besides, I don't see them as step siblings. Mikasa never considered Grisha and Carla as her adoptive parents. Just because she lived with them after her parents died doesn't make her their adopted kid. Still doesn't change my opinion that EreMika was poorly written. Had potential to be a great ship, ended up to be a mess.


Straight-Hair-7356

Best comment by far. Most accurate answer of erenmika relationship.


Bubbly-Addition9051

Mikasa is legally adopted by the Yeagers, plus Grisha even refers to her as his daughter plus Isayama said Eren say Mikasa as a mother figure


GoWBouncer

Pinako is Ed and Als legal guardian, plus Pinako sees them as her own grandkids plus Ed and Winry explicity state that they are like brother/sister


unhinged_ereri

Mikasa is called “adoptive daughter” in the guidebook and is said to be adopted by the Yaegers in both guidebooks. Case close


Independent-Couple87

She was also made fun since the beginning of the story for having a crush on Eren.


unhinged_ereri

Okay. That doesn’t change anything. Grisha still adopted her. Yams can’t make up his mind


Pap4MnkyB4by

AoT they were raised as siblings FMA the three kids were raised knowing that they are not siblings


GoWBouncer

They literally refer to each other as brother/sister in the show. did you even watch lmao


DuoForce

Hypocrisy? No one has seen the anime on the right 😂


Boring_Search

Grisha acknowledges the fact that Mikasa is a daughter to him when he went to get the founding titan. Eren saw this memory.


littleski5

They literally are siblings so they are seen as siblings because they are siblings. Ending defenders be like "how come everyone's fine if I hook up with my childhood friend but the second my sister makes out with my severed head everybody makes it weird"


saverma192013

Yep


BoopNoodles739

eren and mikasa are just siblings by bond, not blood


unhinged_ereri

Okay, okay. So Grisha calling Mikasa his daughter doesn’t count but Eren saying “I’m not your little brother” out of frustration does??