Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order.
I have checked 1,869,880,711 comments, and only 353,582 of them were in alphabetical order.
I don't buy into the v break theory at all it's physically impossible. Also, coming into a community (especially a smaller one) and saying how you hate said community probably isn't the best idea.
This community, *especially* this sub specifically, is one of the healthiest and least toxic internet communities I’ve ever had the pleasure of joining. That also extends to the few dedicated YouTubers like Historic Travels and Oceanliner Designs.
Aaron1912 irritated countless people because of the V-Break “theory” he continues to (*despite the laws of physics*) try and push.
Seems like you're searching for something to be pissed about, I don't think many people care about some spat between YouTubers.
Secondly, that was very annoying to read.
Formatting is a thing buddy.
Who?
Some random ass YouTube guys aren't "the community. I don't care.
Honestly this seems like you ARE whoever you're posting about.
This post will get down voted because you're likely the only one who cares.
This is the exact reaction I expected
"You have a positive opinion on Aaron 1912 so you must be Aaron 1912"
I am not and it's this kind of logic that got me banned from the historic travels discord
I don't know who that is. Nor do I care.
This is a Titanic sub.
Not a sub about Titanic YouTube channels.
You're barking up the wrong tree.
Move on sir.
My guy this is one of 2 posts on Aaaron1912. At this point I am 100% certain you are him. If this is a way to get clicks on your youtube channel nice try. 2ndly while cyberbullying is bad critism is not cyberbullying. If people were going out to the way to cyberbully that's not ok. But again there was constructive critism on his theory.
Look just be cause I have a positive opinion on him doesn't mean I am not Aaron 1912
There is constructive criticism and then there is calling him a lunatic
ok but making two posts is excessive. Also, i've never seen any of the stuff you claimed. Most posts when i searched his name is just saying his theory is not correct.
Did you not read my post
I got banned from historic travels discord for exactly that
I am not Aaron 1912 I marly sympathise with him
Exactly the the toxicity that I point out in the post
What the fuck is an Aaron1912 and why does it matter to anything?
Intra-Titanic Internet community drama. Now I've seen it all. What a time to be alive.
He created and pushed a theory with no scientific or evidentiary backup. Doing that in a subject that has been so intensely researched and studied is just a low IQ maneuver.
One thing I’ll always remember about him on Encyclopedia Titanica was him using a quote from Boxhall from 1962 to support his theory that the ship sank bodily with almost no forward tilt - it was Boxhall mistakenly saying “her stern was getting low in the water” when he clearly meant to say “her bow was low in the water”.
This was 50 years after the sinking but Aaron frequently used that quote said in error to support his theory lol
Dude, where'd you learn to spell? And don't tell me that you're not a native speaker, your actual grammar is too good for me to buy that crap, so don't try it.
As a mod and a long term member on the historic travels discord server, its mostly kids who just watch youtubers to form their opinions, and once its set it it can hardly be changed, I believe Aarons V break theory does need criticism (if it is his theory due to what you said) however the amount of hate he gets is indeed absurd, lastly I dont remember anyone getting banned for "being aaron"
Oh......hello Aaron. Specifically deny being him yet, having read your responses, you somehow have very detailed knowledge about him and every surrounding him. Would say kinda sus but it's wayyyyy past sus lol
Firstly , you´re Aaron1912.
Secondly , ik you´re NOT gonna change your opinion , but I´ll just do it for the fun of it ...
I very much hate toxicity , but what most People on the Forums and subreddits talk about is the Physicly IMPOSSIBLE V - Break.There´s a difference between HATE and CRITSICM.Also , Titanic animations and every1 else didn´t make stuff up , they just looked at it as an outsider point of view and took slang , context and physics into account.Also also , it´s the Internet.There will always be people who are critics , some disguised as critics , some flat - out haters and some ppl who genuinly believe.If you can´t handle that someone says "No , you´re wrong , there´s evidence" , then you do not belong on here.
Here in TL;DR - Form so you understand it too :
Hate =/= Critcism
People are not being hostile , they just spread information about why your theory is wrong and there are always people who don´t like a person´s work.
EDIT : Forgot to mention : I DON\`T CARE if you are Aaron1912 or not , my Arguments have the same Value. , you CAN´T deny that.
While I don't believe in the V-break, I can absolutely agree that the Titanic community is incredibly toxic at times. My theories and even animations of survivor accounts have received flack for "not being accurate". It is truly absurd.
Most of what is pointed out as "wrong" can be quite easily explained, like the Titanic listing to starboard after water reached the bridge, the ship taking a sudden cant before breaking, or the fourth funnel remaining standing after the breakup. Those are widely accounted for and there's no solid evidence that they didn't happen, but they aren't the popular opinion, so tend to get overlooked and people who showed those aspects in their theories got bullied. At least TH&G's 2023 video showed the fourth funnel to remain standing after the breakup, which has started to shift peoples' opinions, although most of them believe it to be a "new" discovery and haven't even looked at the evidence. They just go with the flow.
There's my small rant about the community.
I don't think it's called "hate" I believe it is called criticism. Aaron1912 should've done research on physics before making or taking such a theory. It's impossible for Titanic's bow to come out of the water because it isn't bouyant after being completely submerged. It's just criticism and some people can't take criticism. If people were cyberbullying him thats not okay. But from what I've seen from Historic Travels (Sam), he provided constructive criticism about the theory mainly because physics do not work that way. That's not him bullying Aaron1912.
Who
A Titanic "theorist" who has been pushing the theory that the Titanic broke in a V-shape, despite the fact that physics doesn't work that way.
Ah, I see, thank you
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order. I have checked 1,869,880,711 comments, and only 353,582 of them were in alphabetical order.
How in God's name do you not know
I’m in this sub because I like the Titanic and its history, not drama.
I’ve been a Titanic enthusiast for 40 years, it’s a major part of my life. I have no idea who you’re talking about.
I don't buy into the v break theory at all it's physically impossible. Also, coming into a community (especially a smaller one) and saying how you hate said community probably isn't the best idea.
Its the community dehumanizing Aaron that gets me it's starigh up cyber bullying over a theoy
This community, *especially* this sub specifically, is one of the healthiest and least toxic internet communities I’ve ever had the pleasure of joining. That also extends to the few dedicated YouTubers like Historic Travels and Oceanliner Designs. Aaron1912 irritated countless people because of the V-Break “theory” he continues to (*despite the laws of physics*) try and push.
please give examples.
Seems like you're searching for something to be pissed about, I don't think many people care about some spat between YouTubers. Secondly, that was very annoying to read. Formatting is a thing buddy.
Your downplaying the whole situation He had to turn off all social media for years because of the communitys toxicity
Who? Some random ass YouTube guys aren't "the community. I don't care. Honestly this seems like you ARE whoever you're posting about. This post will get down voted because you're likely the only one who cares.
This is the exact reaction I expected "You have a positive opinion on Aaron 1912 so you must be Aaron 1912" I am not and it's this kind of logic that got me banned from the historic travels discord
Nobody knows who you're talking about, that's the main point here.
I don't know who that is. Nor do I care. This is a Titanic sub. Not a sub about Titanic YouTube channels. You're barking up the wrong tree. Move on sir.
The OP is making a very specific denial about not being Aaron 1912. Usually that means they are who they claim not to be.
Look at my profile then
Okay... It shows Aaron 1912 using the account name "onemarysboi2017."
Who’s Aaron
AA-Ron!!
Dee-nice
Tim-Othy
Jey-quellin
This guy Aaron 1912s
My guy this is one of 2 posts on Aaaron1912. At this point I am 100% certain you are him. If this is a way to get clicks on your youtube channel nice try. 2ndly while cyberbullying is bad critism is not cyberbullying. If people were going out to the way to cyberbully that's not ok. But again there was constructive critism on his theory.
Look just be cause I have a positive opinion on him doesn't mean I am not Aaron 1912 There is constructive criticism and then there is calling him a lunatic
ok but making two posts is excessive. Also, i've never seen any of the stuff you claimed. Most posts when i searched his name is just saying his theory is not correct.
The channel name is "Aaron 1912 records and research" I am not trying to promote it but you can see for yourself
I'm good thanks.
this guy's definitely aaron 1912
Did you not read my post I got banned from historic travels discord for exactly that I am not Aaron 1912 I marly sympathise with him Exactly the the toxicity that I point out in the post
idk i just find it hard to believe you're not aaron 1912
🤦
I have in my possession a real aaron1912
I HAVE NO CLUE WHAT ANY OF THIS IS ABOUT. BUT JUST FROM READING IT I DO KNOW YOU ARE A-A-RON 1912.
You done f*cked up A-A- Ron lol
Oh I see your a key and peele fan
What the fuck is an Aaron1912 and why does it matter to anything? Intra-Titanic Internet community drama. Now I've seen it all. What a time to be alive.
oh you sweet summer child... :)
He created and pushed a theory with no scientific or evidentiary backup. Doing that in a subject that has been so intensely researched and studied is just a low IQ maneuver.
One thing I’ll always remember about him on Encyclopedia Titanica was him using a quote from Boxhall from 1962 to support his theory that the ship sank bodily with almost no forward tilt - it was Boxhall mistakenly saying “her stern was getting low in the water” when he clearly meant to say “her bow was low in the water”. This was 50 years after the sinking but Aaron frequently used that quote said in error to support his theory lol
This was also a quote from a time they thought the ship didn't break at all.
I think you are Aaron 1912.
Dude, where'd you learn to spell? And don't tell me that you're not a native speaker, your actual grammar is too good for me to buy that crap, so don't try it.
I am a native speaker I learned that as long as the first and lat letters are in the right place the brain uses the context to read the word
That's not a good excuse to not spell correctly.
Who?
Sounds like Aaron1912 made this post.
Didn't know who he was before but now I hate his annoying bullshit, I'll be sure to make a note.
"Now that's a name I've not heard in a long time"
As a mod and a long term member on the historic travels discord server, its mostly kids who just watch youtubers to form their opinions, and once its set it it can hardly be changed, I believe Aarons V break theory does need criticism (if it is his theory due to what you said) however the amount of hate he gets is indeed absurd, lastly I dont remember anyone getting banned for "being aaron"
Well I voiced this exact opinion on the server and I was banned
Odd, though I know that Sam kinda often bans for non legitimate reasons
Yea he was online when I voiced it
Oh......hello Aaron. Specifically deny being him yet, having read your responses, you somehow have very detailed knowledge about him and every surrounding him. Would say kinda sus but it's wayyyyy past sus lol
Just because I have a positive opinion on Aaron 1912 doesn't mean I am Aaron 1912
Firstly , you´re Aaron1912. Secondly , ik you´re NOT gonna change your opinion , but I´ll just do it for the fun of it ... I very much hate toxicity , but what most People on the Forums and subreddits talk about is the Physicly IMPOSSIBLE V - Break.There´s a difference between HATE and CRITSICM.Also , Titanic animations and every1 else didn´t make stuff up , they just looked at it as an outsider point of view and took slang , context and physics into account.Also also , it´s the Internet.There will always be people who are critics , some disguised as critics , some flat - out haters and some ppl who genuinly believe.If you can´t handle that someone says "No , you´re wrong , there´s evidence" , then you do not belong on here. Here in TL;DR - Form so you understand it too : Hate =/= Critcism People are not being hostile , they just spread information about why your theory is wrong and there are always people who don´t like a person´s work. EDIT : Forgot to mention : I DON\`T CARE if you are Aaron1912 or not , my Arguments have the same Value. , you CAN´T deny that.
I don’t know who this is and this community can be very toxic
I'm glad you agree I envy your ignorance Titanic animations made a video on him But he calls him a "lunatic"
Congratulations, you played yourself.
Congratulations you follow the crowd
While I don't believe in the V-break, I can absolutely agree that the Titanic community is incredibly toxic at times. My theories and even animations of survivor accounts have received flack for "not being accurate". It is truly absurd. Most of what is pointed out as "wrong" can be quite easily explained, like the Titanic listing to starboard after water reached the bridge, the ship taking a sudden cant before breaking, or the fourth funnel remaining standing after the breakup. Those are widely accounted for and there's no solid evidence that they didn't happen, but they aren't the popular opinion, so tend to get overlooked and people who showed those aspects in their theories got bullied. At least TH&G's 2023 video showed the fourth funnel to remain standing after the breakup, which has started to shift peoples' opinions, although most of them believe it to be a "new" discovery and haven't even looked at the evidence. They just go with the flow. There's my small rant about the community.
I don't think it's called "hate" I believe it is called criticism. Aaron1912 should've done research on physics before making or taking such a theory. It's impossible for Titanic's bow to come out of the water because it isn't bouyant after being completely submerged. It's just criticism and some people can't take criticism. If people were cyberbullying him thats not okay. But from what I've seen from Historic Travels (Sam), he provided constructive criticism about the theory mainly because physics do not work that way. That's not him bullying Aaron1912.