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RequiredLoginSucks

TIL King Ranch is not just a trim package on a truck.


Owmuhback

TIL Australians have a lot of pride in the size of their ranches.


Anustart15

That's what happens when someone posts something during Australia 's turn with the internet


LordApocalyptica

TIL Rhode Island and Luxembourg apparently aren’t as differently sized as you might think.


lilwayne168

There's a paradox https://www.geographyrealm.com/gis-data-coastline-paradox/#:~:text=It%20is%20a%20paradox%20that,features%20that%20can%20be%20measured. So what is the coastline paradox? It is a paradox that occurs when measuring a coastline that causes the total length of the coastline to increase each time you measure it with a smaller unit of measurement, due to the extra features that can be measured. Making islands notoriously difficult to measure.


Hi_My_Name_Is_Dave

That makes it difficult to measure coastline. Not landmass. Yes the differences in measuring coastline will lead to slight variances in landmass measurements, but it will be very slight and logarithmically approach some number as you zoom in


lilwayne168

Good clarification but was just implying that these measurements have many factors one wouldn't immediately think about.


Tommy_Roboto

I love when people imply random unrelated stuff they want to talk about.


GarbledComms

Neither Luxembourg nor Rhode Island are islands, though RI does have a coast.


Urdothor

It also, has an island! A couple, of varying size. Its why the states called that. Aquidneck island was once known as Rhode Island.


glyneth

And there are a lot of smaller islands in RI!


mintmouse

Measurement is quite easy as long as you agree on a standard unit to measure by to match precision. If your country measures by inches and mine miles, neither is wrong but one is more precise.


healthybowl

Some a wildly huge and have absolutely nothing on them. Anna creek station is just shy of 6M acres or like 8x bigger than King ranch.


Duesey

For a time, the Kleberg family owned ranches in Australia larger than their King Ranch in Texas.


LivermoreP1

They did a few episodes on this in the critically acclaimed documentary series, Yellowstone.


racer_24_4evr

Literally just heard that comment on Yellowstone and had no idea its a real place.


nametag91

Almost all of the ranches other than the Yellowstone that are mentioned are real


hertzsae

The 6's was purchased by the main creator if you're ever wondering why the show basically turned into an ad for them.


Romanos_The_Blind

Omg, no wonder it's "the real ranch where the real cowboys are with a real business model".


FrogTrainer

with actual veterinarians doing actual work with animals. And here I thought ranching was just murdering the endless line of people that want to take your land.


klingma

Well, I mean, it is still that, but ya gotta get trained to ride first before you get to do the endless amounts of killing. 


Doyouwantaspoon

Yeah I also learned that the 6666 ranch from that show isn’t fiction either lol


aurorasearching

It’s been a few years, but driving out that way was always kinda funny. It’s two lane highway most of the way, and then as soon as you get in that county the roads are two lanes each way with a big divided median, much smoother and nicer, pass the main buildings of the sixes, pass the private air strip, then back out of the county and you’re back to two lane highways.


valeyard89

Yeah, I've visited all 254 county courthouse in Texas and I remember driving by the 6666 airfield in Guthrie.


eclipsedrambler

Or just a niche Old Forester bourbon blend.


MmmDarkBeer

That stuff is yummy


silversauce

Also an Old Forester Bourbon filtered using King Ranch charcoal.


iluvsporks

I had a King Ranch F350. That interior was a massive pain in the ass to maintain. The difference between actual leather and leather that's in most vehicles is massive. If anyone else has one I can't recommend a leather conditioner called leatherique high enough.


passwordstolen

But is it larger than Rhode Island AND Luxembourg combines?? Grammar matters more than math.


lahema

I thought it was just a chicken casserole


Sayitoutloudinpublic

Please say “/s”


RequiredLoginSucks

Except I honestly didn't know it wasn't just a Ford trim package


haljhon

That’s really good to hear. That’s plenty of room for those trucks to be raised free range before they are sold.


KeegorTheDestroyer

I only drive organic, grass-fed, free-range trucks because I'm proud to be an American!


wildwestington

Iirc, king ranch makes a lot of money allowing fords to sell their name


JLOBRO

Well, duh


wildwestington

I think there is a unique story behind it or something lol idk


OlYeller01

They make a lot of money off their licensing, they partner with John Deere on their massive farming ops, and they do high end hunting for the insanely wealthy/politicians/etc.


Clarissa_poncissa

Canyon-er-ooooh! (YAH!)


97Graham

Happy Trucks get better mileage


AngriestManinWestTX

I only buy Fords that were free-grazed on the finest South Texas grass.


Kjriggs20

It’s not about the size of the ranch, but how you use it


orrocos

We usually just buy the regular size ranch. The extra large bottles are just too big for the fridge.


XavierScorpionIkari

It’s not the size of the ranch, it’s the crops it produces?


yosoyboi2

I believe ranches are more about animal husbandry than crops.


XavierScorpionIkari

Yeah. I knew I was messing something up there.


theassassintherapist

I mean, the founder of the ranch was literally [Captain Dick King](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_King_(entrepreneur\)) though...


Plant__Eater

Approximately 1/3 of all land in the contiguous United States is used for livestock grazing. Adding in land used for growing feed for livestock accounts for 41 percent of all land in the continental US.[[1]](https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2018-us-land-use/)


Cool-Security-4645

Disgusting. What an ecological nightmare


TheThalmorEmbassy

Not really, it was just grass and prairie before that. A lot of it was desert.


Cool-Security-4645

TIL grass, prairies, and deserts are habitats for zero organisms


horsepoop1123

…and is also worth more money than [ten](https://www.worldometers.info/gdp/gdp-by-country/) different island nations


relevant__comment

Fun fact: US Gov spending accounts for more than 20% of its own GDP.


rockybalto21

That’s on par with or lower than most developed countries


sportsareforfools

The difference is what it’s spent on


TwoPrecisionDrivers

“Hey now, the Middle East isn’t gonna bomb itself!” -the US government probably


sportsareforfools

Exactly, 20% here isn’t 20% everywhere.


kick26

I joke that defense spending is just a more complicated and inefficient welfare system. They give a big bunch of money to one company who takes their share and passes it down to the next guy who does the same and passes it down to the next guy and then eventually me


Jerrell123

And the largest portion of the national debt is owed *to the Social Security program*.


hungry4danish

Where did you find its worth? The link is only a dump of all country GDP's and it says nothing about King Ranch's value.


mattenthehat

And also GDP is not in any way comparable to value. You'd have to compare it to King Ranch's annual revenue.


CandidateNo4447

King Ranch is 825,000 acres, so, while it's the largest ranch in the U.S. it wouldn't even be in the top 50 largest ranches in Australia.


_HGCenty

Call that a ranch? **This** is a ranch.


Mammoth-Mud-9609

Anna Creek Station has an area of 23,677 km2 (9,142 sq mi; 5,851,000 acres) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Creek_Station


Animallover4321

I can’t get my head around a ranch that size that’s the size of New Hampshire.


Mammoth-Mud-9609

There is a reason why they use helicopters to help with the herding.


Massive_Koala_9313

I think theres 4 ringers that run the whole place or something like that Edit. That’s not true it fluctuates between 8-25 or so


WembysGiantDong

Most of the Australian Outback just isn’t good territory for raising cattle and the land cannot support the same number of cattle per acre the King Ranch can. I’m in San Antonio which is one of the traditional “homes” of south Texas ranching. I know people who are part of the big ranching families. Those people have oil and cattle and most of them spent the last 180 or so years re-investing a lot of that money. The number of Alamo Heights trust fund babies supported by monster trust funds built from ranch money is ridiculous.


Massive_Koala_9313

Very interesting! A good proportion of the Australian outback is only suitable as cattle stations and Australian land titles only give you ownership of the depth of a plough, the rest is crown land. There are no oil baron farmers in Australia, only mining company magnates.


WembysGiantDong

The law in Texas re: petroleum in the ground is that 7/8th belongs to the state of Texas. The remaining 1/8th is generally split, 1/16 each, between the landowner and whoever is producing the oil. At least this is what I recall from law school. Took oil and gas law class but could be misremembering.


Massive_Koala_9313

So natural resources are a state by state issue?


WembysGiantDong

To an extent, there are some federal laws re: mining and oil and lumber, but otherwise it’s a state by state decision and those decisions can really vary state by state. For example, water law in the New England area essentially follows English common law. But get out to the west, states like Utah, Colorado, Idaho, and all the others to the left have really different rules. Those rules are heavily influenced by mining law and Spanish law. Here in Texas, we do EVERYTHING difference than the rest of the country, primarily because of our Spanish and Mexican origins and the brief time we spent as an independent nation.


Zombie13a

I seem to remember reading somewhere during the "wildcatting" boom in the 2010's that most landowners in Wyoming don't actually own the mineral rights on their land. Petro companies bought the mineral rights from the state and that gave them the right to just show up and start drilling with no compensation to the landowner at all. There were all sorts of stories about livestock being lost/damaged and water access being messed up because of it. I could certainly be misremembering it, and things may have changed since then as well. Completely blew my mind that a person could purchase (and pass down thru generations) land only to have someone else own other parts of it without realizing or understanding it.


Delision

It’s massive in size, but the scale of the ranch operation is not as big as you might think due to how much of it is empty space. For example, King Ranch actually has more cattle than this one, even though it’s a fraction of the size.


mart1373

Shit, you’re serious? The size of New Hampshire?! That’s fuckin nuts!


FourWordComment

And staffed by 25 people?


k20350

98% of it isn't good for anything.


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I’m trying to imagine the logistics behind basic maintenance. How many people do they have on payroll that just drive around fixing fences all day?


angrydad87

Thats bigger than Slovenia and little smaller than Sicilia.


aceofspades1217

Looks like they aren’t super productive though


Bigdaug

They have to be, the largest cattle ranch in Australia has 4x less cattle than the Kings Ranch.


newagealt

Fun fact, the previous largest ranch in the world (it was split and sold off) was the XIT ranch, which occupied 3,000,000 acres of Texas Panhandle. XIT referred to the 10 counties inside it. X for 10 in Texas


3DogsInAParka

Yea that’s better that TIT


Jmphillips1956

At one point in the 60s and 70s king ranch had an international division and also owned some of the biggest ranches in Australia and Brazil


Doyouwantaspoon

Yeah but one acre of our ranches has more grass than their entire ranch.


Appropriate-Tie-8333

Except it’s cattle station down under :p


garbland3986

Right but there’s a knockdown factor in Australian property value since every square inch of Australian soil is trying desperately to violently murder you every single minute of the day.


anonanon5320

At its peak it was over 1 million acres.


CandidateNo4447

Australia has more than 70 ranches (stations) that are over 1 million acres.


anonanon5320

Yes, but if you compare quality than it’s more impressive. While the King isn’t lush by any means, what is the livestock per acre comparison? That matters more than land area.


instasquid

Worse land quality makes Anna Creek more impressive. 17,000 head spread out over nearly 6 million acres is a cunnovathing for a team of ringers to manage. Having lived and worked rural in both the US and Australia, jackaroos (and jillaroos) are definitely harder than your average American cowboy.


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calibrateichabod

Yeah jackaroos are a whole other breed, man. Grew up on a sheep farm and the stories shearers would tell about their jackarooing days were fucking wild. How wild? I have an aunt who holds a world record for shooting feral donkeys from a helicopter, and these stories made her life look tame.


Fool_On_the_Hill_9

And the 825,000 acres are divided between four different ranches.


thewheelsonthebuzz

This is why most of the lamb I buy says Australian.


WembysGiantDong

The volume of lamb comes from Australia and New Zealand, but if you want the best quality lamb, check out the stuff coming out of New Mexico and Colorado. Be warned that it’s hard to find. What’s funny is that it’s hard to find because it almost all shipped to Australia and New Zealand because they prefer it to their own domestic product.


jmlinden7

Australia and New Zealand export their best quality lamb, since that's the only way to justify the shipping/export costs. This also means they keep the crap stuff for themselves.


gyarrrrr

I have never seen US lamb for sale in New Zealand.


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That's because NZ imports virtually no lamb from anybody: https://ahdb.org.uk/trade-and-policy/news/new-zealand-trade-and-production


thewheelsonthebuzz

TIL. Thanks. I never knew. Not sure why I got downvoted. I never bothered to look into it but yeah, love me some lamb.


Due_Capital_3507

No one cares about Australia


nikelaos117

My grandmother worked for the Kings and they had so much influence that when my grandfather tried to join the military they had the US Marshall's bring him back because my grandmother said she would have to go back to Mexico if he left.


WembysGiantDong

If I recall correctly, Capt. King once went down into north Mexico and literally hired an entire town and moved them to the ranch. They were experience cattle hands and he really needed them, so he just got everyone to move. Entire families crossed the border and set up shop. A good portion of the current workers came from those families and there’s a good chance you are part of that group’s descendants.


nikelaos117

Sounds about right. My grandparents on that side have a bit of a complicated history. My grandfather was from Monterey so I don't think he would have been caught up in that. But I'm not sure about my grandmother or how she started working there.


BryterLayter_42

Or as I know it “pretty much everywhere you look between Harlingen and Corpus Christi”


WembysGiantDong

I once had a blowout on 281S around Falfurrias. Called roadside assistance and the lady simply couldn’t believe I could not tell her what the nearest intersecting road was. There are no intersecting roads. I had to get her to open Google Maps and look at the section of highway I was on before she would believe me. And I just remembered this nugget: when I had that blowout, I was driving my King Ranch truck while driving inside the confines of the King Ranch.


arisafrances

I just drove back to san antonio from brownsville and I’m like wait was that entire fucking drive king ranch?! lol. and to think I was ever impressed with knowing the family that owns yturria ranch!


hg38

It's actually four separate areas of land in different counties only two of which are narrowly connected. https://king-ranch.com/about-us/maps/


raguwatanabe

TIL King Ranch was a real place and not something Ford made up. Cool.


BobUfer

*is* a real place


SlipperyPigHole

The Silverado is named after the town of Silverado California. The Yukon is pretty obvious. Denali is named after Mt. Denali. The GMC Canyon is, you guessed it, named after that big ass canyon in the southwest.


patronizingperv

Not only Rhode Island and Luxembourg, but all other similarly-sized parcels of land as well.


gauntvariable

It's larger than New Jersey would be if New Jersey were the size of Luxembourg.


Mama_Skip

But not as large as your mother


Due_Capital_3507

What kind of beef are they growing? Mostly Angus ?


newagealt

King Ranch is the originator of the Santa Gertrutis breed, bred to survive Texas' punishing heat, sharp plants, and deadly storms. It quickly became the go-to breed for all hot climates and is the most popular breed in Australia.


GranniePopo

Santa Gertrudis cattle were introduced to the island of Hawaii Ranches as well because they were adapted to different terrain.


Due_Capital_3507

Very interesting


Anustart15

This post is a beautiful showcase of Australians with an inferiority complex.


Tacoustics

>Texans: everything is bigger in Texas 🤠 >Australians: everything’s bigger in Australia >Texans: wow fuck you size isn’t everything why do you have such an inferiority complex As a non-Texan, non-Australian, the butthurt texans realising they aren’t special is much funnier.


mannheimcrescendo

Tbf there’s a reason the king ranch is known despite there being 50 larger ranches in Australia. Much higher cultural significance and productivity. Not to mention the king ranch bred the specific breed of cattle that is used in Australia for its heat resistance and ability to survive.


oakprince97

The thing is…they can both be respected for different reasons. I run a ranch that was over 110,000 acres at its largest, and I cannot even fathom having an operation in the millions of acres like Australia. From a business standpoint, I find the King Ranch fascinating due to the diversity within their holdings. Not only do they have the ranch with quarter horse, cattle, and hunting divisions, they have the King Ranch Saddle Shop, King Ranch Turfgrass, citrus farms in Florida, the King Ranch line of Ford trucks, attachment to Texas A&M Kingsville as the King Ranch Institute for Ranch Management, and a I’m sure there are more I’m missing. Both are vastly different, but that’s what makes them both deeply interesting.


MiloRoast

...but is it as big as a big Australian ranch?


Anustart15

I don't really have a horse in the race as a New Englander, but coming into a thread that is just an interesting TIL about how big a particular ranch is and having a bunch of hissy fits about how Australian ranches are bigger just has that "all lives matter" energy that is pretty embarrassing


LeverDuadAsSlav

The average Australian couldn’t care less about how big their cattle stations are. It’s more of a mildly TIL thing than something to brag about. Keeping in mind that the vast majority of people live in the cities, those cattle stations might as well be on the moon. At the same time, I’ve only met one Texan and she would never shut up about where she was from. Was she an exception or are they all like that?


appleburger17

TIL Australians can’t hear about something big without saying “yeah well Australia’s bigger!”


AntiDECA

And it's not even impressive because they have larger ranches... Which have less cattle on them. Kinda embarrassing, really. 


SlipperyPigHole

Bruh, it's the equivalent of "Texas is bigger than the state of Texas" any time Texas is mentioned. All the while Alaska is just there like "bruh, you ain't even the biggest Texas in America."


appleburger17

That’s also annoying. I say this as a Texan.


Tacoustics

No surprise - active in Texan subs, butthurt at being beat at your own game


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Pales in comparison to Ram Ranch


tequilaandhappiness

I wonder if they also have cowboys in the showers or yærd at King Ranch.


triedit-lovedit

What’s this metric in African elephants?


DigbyChickenCaesar11

Little old Lichtenstein is too small to even be used as a frame of reference, apparently


SaviorSixtySix

They're also apparently in service to Apophis


ToxyFlog

I've been to luxembourg and it's a very small country. I totally recommend anyone visit sometime, though. You can walk around the entire city in less than a day. They have some really amazing food, too. Go to eat at Bistrot Presse if you go!!


RabidWeaselFreddy

I've heard they make great casserole.


elpajaroquemamais

This just in: the largest of smaller things is larger than the smallest of larger things!


tamingofthepoo

at its peak King Ranch was 15 MILLION acres or (23,044 sq. miles)


OMFGrhombus

Seems unnecessary


Osama_Bin_trappin

They farm a fuck ton of acres of citrus in Florida too


kelthan

While that's impressive, there is a ranch in Australia that is larger than the state of Texas.


CricketStar9191

the ranches in australia are also massive


Fool_On_the_Hill_9

I call BS. The King Ranch is only considered the biggest in the U.S. because they combine the acreage of four different ranches. If the owners of the next two largest ranches partnered and declared the two ranches as one, they would be the largest.


earnestaardvark

It all used to be one ranch of over 2 mil acres but it’s been split a couple times.


Intrepid00

How did the **Bar None Dude Ranch** compare in size to it?


gauntvariable

I first heard about it when Kevin Costner mentioned it in Yellowstone. I was surprised when I looked it up and found out it was a real place.


freeze123901

I thought the one in Hawaii was the largest?


Luminox

Wow. Here's the owner. He looks like a Texan for sure https://youtu.be/xObX5hFsC_w


riguitargod

I live in one of those two.


punx3030

There’s even a town named after it


CatalyticDragon

King Ranch has an area of is 334,000 hectares which would make it the 121st largest 'ranch' in Australia.


bobissonbobby

Spawn ranch!! Idk why I think of this. All I hear is Brad Pitt saying it sarcastically lmao


__Osiris__

Aren’t there ranches in Australia that make those look like Kiddie pools?


BigCommieMachine

Wait until you hear about some of the ranches in Australia.


demeve

Or in the Brazilian pantanal


FancyShrimp

Where on Reddit could I find information about ranches located on the continent of Australia?


huggybear78

i live in kingsville where king ranch head quarters is located at they are bad people dont let the internet fool you


patchinthebox

That's a really big chunk of private property. Would be pretty fun to set up some questionable greenhouses in the middle to grow some, uh, trees.


ubertokes

Until the sheriff's hear about it or see heat signatures and start patrolling with a heli


Pauli86

TIL King ranches isn't that impressive


Kuandtity

Didn't know it was an actual ranch, thought it was just a car model haha


BadRadger

Seriously, though? I’ve dropped turds bigger than Rhode Island. It was very difficult for me, but Texas is much more full of shit than I could ever be.


probablynotaskrull

I fell terrible about this, but there’s a force within me that compels me to say… So’s your mom.


Amount_Business

I gotta agree with CandidateNo4447.  Op, what's up with the little farm?  In Australia we have a few bigger ones, like Anna Creek Station.  Cut straight from Wikipedia.   Anna Creek Station has an area of 23,677 km2 (9,142 sq mi; 5,851,000 acres).[3] It is 8,000 km2 (2,000,000 acres; 3,100 sq mi) larger than its nearest rival, Alexandria Station in the country's Northern Territory. It is over seven times the size of the United States' biggest ranch, King Ranch in Texas, which is 3,340 km2 (830,000 acres; 1,290 sq mi). https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Creek_Station The 2 biggest are in China with 22,500,000 acres, and second at 11,000,000 acres. The next 8 are in Australia.  I couldn't even find list that mentioned the USA. 


newagealt

So King Ranch is actually a pretty important ranch, historically. Especially for Australia, as it's the originator of the Santa Gertrutis cattle breed, the most popular breed over there.


NorwaySpruce

Make another post about that one then?


appleshit8

Weird thing to be proud of, more than  2x the size and less than 1/2 the cattle.


bighunter1313

Truly sad how few cattle they can support per acre.


KIsForHorse

It’s less impressive when people don’t want to live in most of Australia 🤷🏼‍♂️


DankVectorz

It’s a post about the biggest farm in the US, not the world


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Swimming_Stop5723

I live in Canada 🇨🇦. In Canada a large province Quebec nearly voted to separate in 1995. Some citizens don’t even celebrate Canada Day because of our mistakes we made in the past with the indigenous population. It is good to love your country. All country has a chequered history but we should be thankful for where we are now.


747ER

What cute little farm. It’s always funny when Americans brag about how “big” things are there; I once had a person from Texas boast how US states are sooo big that they have to split them up into things called “counties”. As a Queenslander, I rolled my eyes lol.


Anustart15

>What cute little farm. It’s always funny when Americans brag about how “big” things are there Almost as cute as people that seem to assign way too much of their own self worth to something they had no role in other than existing near it.


Cottonjaw

Relax.  Our countries are almost the exact same size... if you don't count our largest state.


Ok-Review8720

Do Australians have a size complexity issue? I'm honestly surprised by the number of Aussies that are commenting on a post regarding a Ranch in Texas.


747ER

To be honest my first comment was a little uncalled for, I’ll cop the downvotes because I deserve them. I just found it interesting that there was a post about how big this ranch is, but from a global perspective, it’s not very big.


Ok-Review8720

It's big of you to admit that. Not as big as King Ranch, but still big of you nonetheless. Haha


747ER

Haha touché!


MirthMannor

Thats a very texan thing. Some have no concept of the world outside of their area, and have this deep conviction that they are very very special. I was at a bar in NYC once and this guy from Texas kept trying to pick up girls by telling them, “I’m from TEXAS,” and, “my family owns a ranch!” while showing them pictures of some flat, brown scrubland. He had no luck. I felt sorry for him and bought him a fee drinks. He was super interesting and didn’t know it. He was so desperate to be a cartoon.


appleburger17

That’s basically what every Australian in this thread is doing.


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PuckSR

It is a pasture dumbass Edit: they are now trying to change the definition of "pasture". Originally, they seem to be implying that pasture was the opposite of a feedlot. King Ranch is a free range ranch. So now they are trying to claim that "pasture" is a special word that means "carbon negative free range". This technique is called "[moving the goalposts](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_the_goalposts)" **and you finished it with a reply block where you claimed you were trolling? Wow**


zoey_will

I read this in Butthead's voice.


publishAWM

same 🏆


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PuckSR

you claimed it was a feed lot. It has never been a feed lot They are working to further reduce their carbon footprint, but they have been a pasture since 1856, since the modern feedlot wasn't created in the 1940s. The cattle on king ranch are free range. You dont keep and maintain a 980,000 acre ranch to raise 35,000 cattle unless you are free ranging them.


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CalvinSays

Ah, the ol' "I got caught with my pants down so now I'm going to claim I was trolling" trick. Hasn't worked since 2013.


Ok-Review8720

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the whole thing is a pasture.


publishAWM

not quite yet. still undergoing transformation.