> To forestall a renewal of the sovereignty disputes, in November 2000 Italian divers planted a Sicilian flag on the top of the volcano in advance of its expected resurfacing. In a ceremony attended by Prince Carlo, Duke of Castro (a descendent of Ferdinand II) and his wife Princess Camilla, a marble plaque was lowered into the water, with Prince Carlo proclaiming that the island "will always be Sicilian".
>
> The marble plaque, weighing 150 kg (330 lb), was inscribed "This piece of land, once Ferdinandea, belonged and shall always belong to the Sicilian people." Within six months, it had fractured into twelve pieces.
I guess they didnāt consult anyone with basic geology knowledge. Marble is metamorphosed limestone, which is very susceptible to breaking down in the outdoor elements due to chemical weathering.
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I just did. The audio sounds like itās coming out of a tin can. A cassette tape would sound better than this š
The blowing starts near the 9th hour
I do this pretty regularly, too. I was actually about to close the article after reading the interesting parts. But then, buried in the references in pop culture section, there was kind of a buried reference to it.
Iām reading it literally right now. Just popped it down for a couple of minutes to get a snack and check my phone and this was the first thing that came up on Reddit. Honestly kinda spookyā¦
This was a G.I. Joe comic when I was a kid. G.I. Joe and Cobra had an all-out war for an island that barely lasted for 24 hours. The island, not the war. War was called off when the island started sinking.
EDIT: My brain was tickled enough that I had to go find the issue. [Marvel issue #80: Rolling Thunder](https://gijoe.fandom.com/wiki/Rolling_Thunder_(Marvel_Comics_issue)).
We should all call it Ferdinandea Island.
Wikipedia appears to be taking a stance by calling it Graham Island, but [their argument](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3AGraham_Island_%28Mediterranean_Sea%29#Moved_back_to_Ferdinandea_Island) is that's the most common name for it in English.
How was that determined? How often is this island actually discussed?
A few online articles use the Sicilian name and boom, the British name falls out of use.
All the more reason to continue calling it Graham Island. We all continue to call it that and it will just be de-facto accepted as British, which it clearly is.
In a ceremony attended by Prince Carlo, Duke of Castro (a descendent of Ferdinand II) and his wife Princess Camilla, a marble plaque was lowered into the water, with Prince Carlo proclaiming that the island "will always be Sicilian".
The marble plaque, weighing 150 kg (330 lb), was inscribed "This piece of land, once Ferdinandea, belonged and shall always belong to the Sicilian people." Within six months, it had fractured into twelve pieces.
I had a discussion with a theist (religious guy) who told me basically "it was easier for him to believe that god did it than it was to wrap his head around the science that says that mountains are created by tectonic upheaval,
Same principal applies in this case maybe!
> it was easier for him to believe that god did it than it was to wrap his head around the science that says that mountains are created by tectonic upheaval
How...just, how? I mean, if you push two solid things together, they're not gonna go through each other, they'll usually go one side up and the other down. We learned this stuff in elementary school, for Christ's sake (pun intended).
The discussion happened in Afghanistan, we were both contractors, we were in a small camp that was surrounded by high bare mountains, I was going to continue the discussion by pointing at the very visible sediment lines on the mountains but I thought "why bother arguing with a fool!"
"Whatever caused the 1831 discoloration is historically significant in theĀ United States, becauseĀ Nat Turner, an enslaved preacher inĀ Southampton County, Virginia, took the bluish-green sun as a divine sign to begin what became known asĀ Nat Turner's slave rebellion, which ended with the deaths of more than 200 people and led to new laws across the South further restricting the liberties of slaves, including banning their education and limiting their religious freedom."
Not as good as Sandy Island in the Coral Sea, which never existed but was on maps until it was "undiscovered" in 2012 by an Australian expedition.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Island,_New_Caledonia
Thereās an island on the east coast of North America that the USA say they own and Canada says they own.
US goes there, remove Canadian small flags to plant small American flags, then the Canadians go and remove the American flags and plant small Canadian flags. Also leave Canadian whiskey, canāt remember what the Americans leave.
I think you're getting mixed up. You're thinking of Hans Island, which was disputed between Canada and the Kingdom of Denmark (the Kingdom of Denmark is divided into three constituent countries: Denmark, the Faeroe Islands, and Greenland; Hans Island lies between Canada and Greenland). They've finally agreed to share the island, and have put a border across it. This was partly a response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine, as an object lesson in how civilized countries settle territorial disputes. A side-effect is that Canada and the Kingdom of Denmark have both doubled their number of international borders.
I believe youāre referring to Machias Seal Island.
[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machias_Seal_Island](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machias_Seal_Island)
> To forestall a renewal of the sovereignty disputes, in November 2000 Italian divers planted a Sicilian flag on the top of the volcano in advance of its expected resurfacing. In a ceremony attended by Prince Carlo, Duke of Castro (a descendent of Ferdinand II) and his wife Princess Camilla, a marble plaque was lowered into the water, with Prince Carlo proclaiming that the island "will always be Sicilian". > > The marble plaque, weighing 150 kg (330 lb), was inscribed "This piece of land, once Ferdinandea, belonged and shall always belong to the Sicilian people." Within six months, it had fractured into twelve pieces.
Damn thats a lot of divers. Why not just send one?
In case the first 1999 all die in unfortunate circumstances.
"So tonight I'm gonna party like it's 1999"
If only they'd sent two thousand and *one* divers!!!
... a sea odyssey.
When will they learn?!
They'd have to wait a year for that.
The other 1999 carried the pasta.
Pasta alla marinara
Frutti di mare
The first Why2K problem.
Any pictures of the divers? š
Diversity
I guess they didnāt consult anyone with basic geology knowledge. Marble is metamorphosed limestone, which is very susceptible to breaking down in the outdoor elements due to chemical weathering.
Someone knows somebody who owns a marble cutting business.
It's Sicily, I'm sure the Mafia took their cut
āI know a guy. Stony Tony.ā
"gaze on my works ye mighty and despair"
Try again with a 660 lb rock
āBut the fourth one stayed up!ā
That's some biblical shit. Badass.
Pretty sure Terry Pratchett based his book Jingo on this exact event.
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Or a Miss or Ms. We shouldnāt assume the marital status of the bot.
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Isnāt Ms. explicitly for NOT assuming it, which is why it started getting used instead of Miss?
Or we could call everyone Mx. Avoid the whole thing altogether.
While playing a board game with an NB friend of mine, I was trying to decide on the right language for a shit-talking about how much in-game currency they had amassed, and I settled on "Mx. Moneybags over here" but pronounced the letters separately instead of as "mix." Ever since then, M.X. Moneybags has lived secretly in my head as my favorite slightly-gangsta nonbinary form of address.
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DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS. The capture has some guy blowing into the mic near the end of the story.
Timestamp?
I really don't feel like searching for it, I'm sorry internet
Boo!
You're the polish sound guy, you do it.
I just did. The audio sounds like itās coming out of a tin can. A cassette tape would sound better than this š The blowing starts near the 9th hour
Thank you kind sound guy. I was painting a living room.
me when I lie
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I thought this as soon as I saw the title, am not disappointed to see it as top comment.
That son of a bitch knew everything
Including the exact moment to die. He rode out exactly as everything stopped being funny.
According to the article, yes, he did.
Iāll give my self points for being right. And then take them away again for not reading the article. The flawed life of the average redditor.
Phew, glad I read the comments before saying anything myself.
I do this pretty regularly, too. I was actually about to close the article after reading the interesting parts. But then, buried in the references in pop culture section, there was kind of a buried reference to it.
Iām reading it literally right now. Just popped it down for a couple of minutes to get a snack and check my phone and this was the first thing that came up on Reddit. Honestly kinda spookyā¦
Lolā¦. Came here just for thisā¦ Such a great bookā¦
I think you mean Django? The D is silent.
Hillbilly
"Jingo" is a word meaning to be extremely in favor of war, usually with a strong current of patriotism.
Iām sorry, did you say Pjango?
This was a G.I. Joe comic when I was a kid. G.I. Joe and Cobra had an all-out war for an island that barely lasted for 24 hours. The island, not the war. War was called off when the island started sinking. EDIT: My brain was tickled enough that I had to go find the issue. [Marvel issue #80: Rolling Thunder](https://gijoe.fandom.com/wiki/Rolling_Thunder_(Marvel_Comics_issue)).
Based
Thats a very cool premise for a story
Christ, even Atlantis was a British colony.
Sun never sets
Cause God doesn't trust them in the dark.
Jokes on you, the sun is also always set
Not when ya live in the sunshine, Bane. Perspective!
[Ya'll must have forgot.](https://youtu.be/akbzRuZmqVM?si=5in6tOb_enTPvGrf&t=50)
Leshp.
Dere's a name what hasn't got its teef in.
Jingoism
Also, I loved that the Wikipedia article references Citation Needed. Love the Tech Diffs. Team Chris.
Never happened.
Was really worried for a moment that Britain wasn't in the running but thankfully we stayed true to form, we'll claim it when it next pops back up
[Obligatory Citation Needed episode](https://youtu.be/9PlQPJmh95U?si=e5eKEgG_Jeryww6Q)
Like, dear Offler, the man has been dead 9 years and we're still just scratching the brilliance of his mind.
GNU Terry Pratchett.
Buster call?
5 elders: Graham island? That place never existed.
Legit my first thought too š š
Interesting
Very
Barely enough time to start a war over it.
I call dibs
Yeah it's the island of Leshp.
We should all call it Ferdinandea Island. Wikipedia appears to be taking a stance by calling it Graham Island, but [their argument](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3AGraham_Island_%28Mediterranean_Sea%29#Moved_back_to_Ferdinandea_Island) is that's the most common name for it in English. How was that determined? How often is this island actually discussed? A few online articles use the Sicilian name and boom, the British name falls out of use.
The rest Wikipedia sites call it Ferdinandea, the spanish Wikipedia, the french one... all of them.
Actually not all of them. Farsi calls it Graham Island.
Places can have different names based on languages. Germany/Deutschland, Florence/Firenze, Naples/Napoli are some quick examples.
Falklands/Malouines/Malivinas
Not really the same scenario.
All the more reason to continue calling it Graham Island. We all continue to call it that and it will just be de-facto accepted as British, which it clearly is.
Graham is such a shit name for an island though.
The island will return when humanity deserves it.
Atlantis speed run.
Do not tell China
Same happened between india and Bangladesh: "New Moor - Wikipedia" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Moor
I can see the Brits of that era saying "Well, that island is obviously part of Britain"
"It exists, therefore..."
Later on that became the plot of a Diskworld novel.
Jingo was one of the best novels.
In a ceremony attended by Prince Carlo, Duke of Castro (a descendent of Ferdinand II) and his wife Princess Camilla, a marble plaque was lowered into the water, with Prince Carlo proclaiming that the island "will always be Sicilian". The marble plaque, weighing 150 kg (330 lb), was inscribed "This piece of land, once Ferdinandea, belonged and shall always belong to the Sicilian people." Within six months, it had fractured into twelve pieces.
Taylor Swift also claimed that island, but without all the racists
What
I had a discussion with a theist (religious guy) who told me basically "it was easier for him to believe that god did it than it was to wrap his head around the science that says that mountains are created by tectonic upheaval, Same principal applies in this case maybe!
> it was easier for him to believe that god did it than it was to wrap his head around the science that says that mountains are created by tectonic upheaval How...just, how? I mean, if you push two solid things together, they're not gonna go through each other, they'll usually go one side up and the other down. We learned this stuff in elementary school, for Christ's sake (pun intended).
The discussion happened in Afghanistan, we were both contractors, we were in a small camp that was surrounded by high bare mountains, I was going to continue the discussion by pointing at the very visible sediment lines on the mountains but I thought "why bother arguing with a fool!"
"Whatever caused the 1831 discoloration is historically significant in theĀ United States, becauseĀ Nat Turner, an enslaved preacher inĀ Southampton County, Virginia, took the bluish-green sun as a divine sign to begin what became known asĀ Nat Turner's slave rebellion, which ended with the deaths of more than 200 people and led to new laws across the South further restricting the liberties of slaves, including banning their education and limiting their religious freedom."
The fact that this led directly to Nat Turner's Rebellion is amazing in every sense of the word.
I hate it when my islands disappear like that.
[Half as Interesting made a video about this island a few years ago](https://youtu.be/JFeESzANUXE)
https://youtu.be/IkJqKOb0ZhY?si=32N1B-wwEYk9hSno
Not as good as Sandy Island in the Coral Sea, which never existed but was on maps until it was "undiscovered" in 2012 by an Australian expedition. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Island,_New_Caledonia
They got too greedy.
So thatās why Taylor Swift wanted to go back
Clearly British territory. We need it for our rock collection.
Thereās an island on the east coast of North America that the USA say they own and Canada says they own. US goes there, remove Canadian small flags to plant small American flags, then the Canadians go and remove the American flags and plant small Canadian flags. Also leave Canadian whiskey, canāt remember what the Americans leave.
I think you're getting mixed up. You're thinking of Hans Island, which was disputed between Canada and the Kingdom of Denmark (the Kingdom of Denmark is divided into three constituent countries: Denmark, the Faeroe Islands, and Greenland; Hans Island lies between Canada and Greenland). They've finally agreed to share the island, and have put a border across it. This was partly a response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine, as an object lesson in how civilized countries settle territorial disputes. A side-effect is that Canada and the Kingdom of Denmark have both doubled their number of international borders.
Hans Island.Ā On the border of Canada and Greenland.Ā The "dispute" ended in 2022. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whisky_War
I think only Canada and Denmark would handle a war like that. Itās almost a shame it ended.
Thatās the one!!!
I believe youāre referring to Machias Seal Island. [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machias_Seal_Island](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machias_Seal_Island)
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