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I think synthetic life could spread faster to a wider range of environments since it only needs energy and raw materials. We would encounter the synthetic beings first, long before we met any biological members of their civilization.
If we are talking about astronomy and long range detection things might be different. Radio telescopes could pick up signals from anywhere, but other telescopes would prioritize searching for planets habitable by biological creatures like us. Our first evidence of alien civilization could be the effects of industry on a distant planet's atmosphere.
Most likely they would find us before we find them, since any civilization we find is likely to be ahead of us in development. I say that because we have only been civilized for 5000 years and industrialized for 200. Other planets could easily be hundreds of thousands to millions of years ahead or behind us. The ones behind would have no civilization, while the ones ahead could have synthetic life spread over many solar systems.
Thinking about the time scales of evolution and society is why there have been some prominent scientists who have advised against broadcasting ourselves to space, the idea being that the odds are higher that their advancement is likely millions of years either way, and if they could reach us, we'd have no choice in the matter how we were treated
It would probably depend on their biology, environment and their social evolution (both how they as animals evolved to interact with each other and how their societies progressed structurally).
Imagine for instance that they are already biologically immortal and regrow limbs naturally. They might not see as much motive to fundamentally change what isn't broken, in some regards perhaps a machine form is MORE frail than their naturally occuring state. They might have some completely foreign thing that causes them existential stress that we take for granted (maybe they are nocturnal/aquatic and the sun burns their skin) that still encourages cybernetic solutions. Possibly they find machine forms gross but have no problem growing bio machines and live inside meat sacs covered in pulsing veins etc.
Simulation as a concept's greatest strength is the acceleration of post scarcity, as a civilizations needs largely just become nutrients and energy, to provide infinite living standards to the inhabitants within. I imagine that's true of any species living under the same laws of physics.
The question is, could they regrow teeth on a human or fix a human joint, cure human cancer, stuff like that.
If the answer is yes, i welcome our new alien overlords.
Must be this i was thinking about : [Scientists Have Found a Drug That Regenerates Teeth, And It Could Reduce The Need For Fillings : ScienceAlert](https://www.sciencealert.com/this-new-drug-can-regenerate-teeth-possibly-reducing-the-need-for-man-made-fillings#:~:text=Researchers%20have%20identified%20a%20drug%20that%20can%20regenerate,improve%20the%20tooth%27s%20natural%20ability%20to%20heal%20itself.)
Edit : above is a pretty old article i've seen this actually : [Humans May Be Able to Grow New Teeth Within Just 6 Years (popularmechanics.com)](https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/health/a60952102/tooth-regrowth-human-trials-japan/)
Thanks for taking the time to share these with me, that's so nice of you :)
So the first article, I know. It's old. Nothing came from it, not yet anyway.
And the second one is very exciting. They're trying to do something over in Japan. But they could very easily fail. And even if they succeed, and everything goes perfect, the earliest it will be available is 2030. But anything could happen to delay that by 1, 2, 5, 10 years. Not cool :(
And even when it does become available, it's probably gonna cost an arm and a leg. But we'll see. Hoping for the best in all cases :)
I think there's a big misunderstanding of what the goals and priorities of an advanced civilization would be. For example a type 1 civilization isn't one that can harness all the energy on its planet, it's one that still produces waste but has the understanding of time and the nature of life.
Biological nature and the unique experience of being human would be the most precious thing to an advanced human civilization
In the outer parts of their civilization, they would likely be artificial, it's more practical because they only need energy. In their own solar system, some may be biological.
I think morphological freedom should be a fundamental right of sapient species.
If that's the norm in interstellar civilizations, then there could be a mix of purely biologicals, cyborgs, [vecs](https://www.orionsarm.com/eg-topic/45c5299b77999) and uploads.
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I think synthetic life could spread faster to a wider range of environments since it only needs energy and raw materials. We would encounter the synthetic beings first, long before we met any biological members of their civilization. If we are talking about astronomy and long range detection things might be different. Radio telescopes could pick up signals from anywhere, but other telescopes would prioritize searching for planets habitable by biological creatures like us. Our first evidence of alien civilization could be the effects of industry on a distant planet's atmosphere. Most likely they would find us before we find them, since any civilization we find is likely to be ahead of us in development. I say that because we have only been civilized for 5000 years and industrialized for 200. Other planets could easily be hundreds of thousands to millions of years ahead or behind us. The ones behind would have no civilization, while the ones ahead could have synthetic life spread over many solar systems.
Thinking about the time scales of evolution and society is why there have been some prominent scientists who have advised against broadcasting ourselves to space, the idea being that the odds are higher that their advancement is likely millions of years either way, and if they could reach us, we'd have no choice in the matter how we were treated
A portion of their population would likely be biological
^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/) ^by ^demonkingwasd123: *A portion of their* *Population would likely* *Be biological* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.
It would probably depend on their biology, environment and their social evolution (both how they as animals evolved to interact with each other and how their societies progressed structurally). Imagine for instance that they are already biologically immortal and regrow limbs naturally. They might not see as much motive to fundamentally change what isn't broken, in some regards perhaps a machine form is MORE frail than their naturally occuring state. They might have some completely foreign thing that causes them existential stress that we take for granted (maybe they are nocturnal/aquatic and the sun burns their skin) that still encourages cybernetic solutions. Possibly they find machine forms gross but have no problem growing bio machines and live inside meat sacs covered in pulsing veins etc. Simulation as a concept's greatest strength is the acceleration of post scarcity, as a civilizations needs largely just become nutrients and energy, to provide infinite living standards to the inhabitants within. I imagine that's true of any species living under the same laws of physics.
Its more than just copying. There are many possible futures, some end in the same outcome and some don’t. It’s really just perception.
The question is, could they regrow teeth on a human or fix a human joint, cure human cancer, stuff like that. If the answer is yes, i welcome our new alien overlords.
Uh pretty sure someone discovered a way to regrow teeths not long ago.
Care to tell me who, where?
Must be this i was thinking about : [Scientists Have Found a Drug That Regenerates Teeth, And It Could Reduce The Need For Fillings : ScienceAlert](https://www.sciencealert.com/this-new-drug-can-regenerate-teeth-possibly-reducing-the-need-for-man-made-fillings#:~:text=Researchers%20have%20identified%20a%20drug%20that%20can%20regenerate,improve%20the%20tooth%27s%20natural%20ability%20to%20heal%20itself.) Edit : above is a pretty old article i've seen this actually : [Humans May Be Able to Grow New Teeth Within Just 6 Years (popularmechanics.com)](https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/health/a60952102/tooth-regrowth-human-trials-japan/)
Thanks for taking the time to share these with me, that's so nice of you :) So the first article, I know. It's old. Nothing came from it, not yet anyway. And the second one is very exciting. They're trying to do something over in Japan. But they could very easily fail. And even if they succeed, and everything goes perfect, the earliest it will be available is 2030. But anything could happen to delay that by 1, 2, 5, 10 years. Not cool :( And even when it does become available, it's probably gonna cost an arm and a leg. But we'll see. Hoping for the best in all cases :)
I think there's a big misunderstanding of what the goals and priorities of an advanced civilization would be. For example a type 1 civilization isn't one that can harness all the energy on its planet, it's one that still produces waste but has the understanding of time and the nature of life. Biological nature and the unique experience of being human would be the most precious thing to an advanced human civilization
In the outer parts of their civilization, they would likely be artificial, it's more practical because they only need energy. In their own solar system, some may be biological.
I think morphological freedom should be a fundamental right of sapient species. If that's the norm in interstellar civilizations, then there could be a mix of purely biologicals, cyborgs, [vecs](https://www.orionsarm.com/eg-topic/45c5299b77999) and uploads.