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Todorokimakishima

You can tell Islam really respects Volk


Glum-Ad7651

Islam will be cheering for Volk in the rematch like Gaethje did for Poirier


Redchimp3769157

God imagine a dagestani camp Volk. Dude would come out against Ilia and immediately shoot a perfect double leg lmfao


Existing-Pattern-775

if he cuts his mustache, yes


Redchimp3769157

Down Under but it’s got a slight Russian hint to it


Existing-Pattern-775

imagine volk invites islam to cook on his channel


kenthekungfujesus

There's only facial hair down under his chin


RespectDry2432

A lot of his success is his strength so if he lost some muscle, I don't think he'd be all that good anymore.


RespectDry2432

I was so tired last night I read muscle, not mustache 😂😂😂


adolfthepowerful

Would be great to see Volk train alongside with Islam for Topuria rematch.


TheAngriestPoster

Rocky 3 moment


illillusion

That is the ultimate mythical fighter; dagestani bratha volkenovski


Existing-Pattern-775

volkanedov


GambleResponsibly

Neck (beard) strap Volk is my next mythical fighter


Difficult-Tea9199

He has good base in wrestling. If he was training under them he'd probably only need that to win fights


DrummerFantasti

One thing about these cacaucus fighters is that they surround themselves with people with common sense. You hardly hear them shit talk their opponents' skills unless it's grounded in reality. It's probably a good payday for Volk or Usman's team, but if the coach is focused on money they wouldn't have their fighters best interests in sight


Existing-Pattern-775

completely agree. jon anik once said in an interview "i believe islam won the first fight 4-1, there was a little bit of a false narrative". which made me think, did their coaches also think that while allowing volk to take the rematch short notice?


Alpha1stOne

First fight was a clinic by Islam, second fight was no playing with food and just business.


Existing-Pattern-775

in all honesty, i watched it live and i thought volk won. but watching it back (at least 10 times by now) islam won clear. he outstruck volk 24 minutes, but u dont see that while u watch it live. i feel kinda sorry for volk ngl


ruggmike

Feel like there was so much bias for volk from commentary as well. It’s way more believable that Islam won that fight 4-1 than volk winning.


TumbleweedTim01

Reddit has turned into a pendulum. At first everyone thought volk won now(after watching the fight 10 times) everyone thinks clearly islam won. When you want to believe something you will convince yourself to believe anything. Fight fans can almost never watch a fight unbiased


ruggmike

Yea I’m actually surprised to see how many have come around bc I said the same comment after the fight about it being more believable Islam won 4-1 and I was getting shit on, which is fine bc I get it.


Wild_Ad_10

I’ve only watched the fight once and I was watching as a big volk fan and scored it easily 3-2 volk. I couldn’t believe people had volk winning and wondered if I missed something obvious. I don’t think Rogan saying that he thought Volk won helped. I went back and watched the fight companion to see how he had Volk winning and one of the earlier rounds they scored for Islam but in their drunken nonsense later on they scored that same round for Volk. Because he finished strong it completely changed how people viewed the rest of the fight but that’s not how fights are scored


Existing-Pattern-775

nah i saw islam won after the first time rewatching it already, i specified 10 times because i used that fight to make predictions and score it myself


Succubus996

Ppl only paid attention to the 1 knockdown volk had against islam


Alpha1stOne

Islam literally dominated 24 minutes straight while trying not to die from all the fucking from the athletic commission sabotage that told Volk to double his cycle and exempted him from ALL DRUG TESTS


Existing-Pattern-775

wait what


Alpha1stOne

Islam was forced to give blood during his weight cut, had to get out of the sauna, woken up during the weight cut for another drug test, had to piss literally before being allowed to walk out which insured he was completely dehydrated for the fight. Volk and other australians had a complete waiver from any and all drug tests. UFC VP had a youtube video talking about it.


GMFinch

Link or shut up haha


Alpha1stOne

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU\_-MJSfocY&ab\_channel=BrendanFitzgerald](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU_-MJSfocY&ab_channel=BrendanFitzgerald) I accept your apology. Let's see if you are man enough to admit though.


GMFinch

I watched the video. He said the fighters from overseas had to get blood drawn, but the aussie fighters didn't, so that's where the bruises might have come from. You did some serious mental gymnastics to make up all the other things that are not talked about at all in the video, hahahah So let see if you are man to admit you made stuff up.


Osceola_Gamer

I'll take talking out of my ass for 200 Alex.


Alpha1stOne

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU\_-MJSfocY&ab\_channel=BrendanFitzgerald](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU_-MJSfocY&ab_channel=BrendanFitzgerald) Tell it to the VP of the UFC.


Existing-Pattern-775

alright i wont feel sad for volk anymore. thanks for this man, i had no clue it was this bad


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Alpha1stOne

Are you talking about me?


Existing-Pattern-775

this nix good bratha


Conbain

You believe something you read on reddit from a random ass moron and don’t even bother to use the technology in front of you to see if it’s truthful or not. Smfh.


Alpha1stOne

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU\_-MJSfocY&ab\_channel=BrendanFitzgerald](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU_-MJSfocY&ab_channel=BrendanFitzgerald)


Existing-Pattern-775

who said that i believe him


damendred

Listening to a few other takes on this in some other interviews after, I think the rematch might have been financially motivated for Volk. He's starting to make very good money finally, but he's also realized he doesn't have much time left. It was insinuated the UFC offered him considerably more money to take this fight. When you can make more in one fight than you might make in the next 2-3 defenses assuming you even get them, it may put a big thumb on the scales for the decision. For us thinking about his 'legacy' or his immediate career trajectory it seems like a horrible idea, but for him thinking about long term financial security for him and his family, you can start to see how this fight may not look such a bad idea. And if you think if he doesn't take this fight, and loses to Toperia anyway, than he doesn't get this rematch and loses a huge pay day.


gobble_deez_nutz

Good point


catdog5566cat

This was my take from it. Everyone was saying it was a mistake, it will hurt his legacy, he won't get another shot if loses.... ---------- He's 35, almost all of those things either won't matter or will happen anyway. Volk is at the end of his career, so he took a big payday, that came with the chance of being double champ, indisputably the p4p no 1 in the world, and even if he lost, he keeps his own belt. Win win win win win win win win in volks books.


brazilianfreak

I get taking the Islam fight for money, but accepting Topuria just after makes no sense, because now he lost and won't get PPV points anymore unless there is a rematch, I get that he never believed he would lose, but if your objective is making money then you have to have some risk analysis and realize that even a Lucky KO can ruin your profits.


heliumeyes

Are you referring to Usman taking the short notice against Chimaev? I actually think he looked pretty good and could’ve even won if the fight had two more rounds.


JJJaxMax

He would’ve won imo. By finish and it would have been legendary. Would’ve could’ve should’ve:…. The things that could be.


Ikhouvankaas

That’s why every fight where both fighters are in the top 5, should be a 5 rounder. It would also help the contender prepare for his eventual title fight. I don’t know the numbers behind it but I feel like contenders who headline a fight night card and get to actually experience the championship rounds before their first title fight, would probably benefit from it.


knyelvr

Damn Islam was so respectful with his shit talking


Existing-Pattern-775

man u gotta watch the whole video


knyelvr

I did! At the end he said volk can still come back that’s not super harsh to me idk


GambleResponsibly

Islam looked at the clock like 3 times in that last round of Volk vs Islam 1. If that’s doesn’t ingrain respect for your fighter I don’t know what does


brazilianfreak

Doesn't sound bad because he's not even shit talking him, he's just being honest.


BittenAtTheChomp

It wasn't shit talk


Existing-Pattern-775

nono i agree he was extremely respectful, i actually meant u should watch it bc islam had something hilarious to say about porier 😂


Azubedo

Hooker about to explode


Existing-Pattern-775

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JE_SUIS_BLUBBER

Link to the video? 😂


Existing-Pattern-775

its on my acc


Sure-Sheepherder-963

Bratha he have to go to hospital after his last fight


MumrikDK

Or get an explosion inked.


Devoidoxatom

"he almost died out there" - Islam talking about Hooker's fight against Poirier


wiseguy1923

Damn dude, respect to this guy.


Existing-Pattern-775

i actually meant the "he have good guillotine" part 😂 dude is hilarious


uaintnever

Yup. Way too soon and way too idiotic to take an Islam fight on 10 days notice or whatever. And now Volkanovski is fucked. 2 concussions in 4 months is not something you recover well from.


brazilianfreak

Honestly his biggest mistake wasn't even the Islam fight, but rather the Topuria one, you can't blame Volk for giving it a shot, but coming back against topuria only a few months after a brutal knockout is just straight up reckless and stupid.


uaintnever

Islam fight is only arguably not a mistake because of the money he got. But that 2nd fight with Islam was always gonna happen. And no fighter is better without a camp and oh let's also add a 10 day weight cut. The money is what makes it less dumb than the Tuporia fight.


haldir87

They paid him life changing money. Probably a multitude of his regular purse and he went for the money and now his legacy is changed for ever.


uaintnever

The money does make an argument for the 2nd fight with Islam yea. That's the only way you could justify it.


MouseBoi420

Life changing money for life changing injuries.


haldir87

He will be fine. His legacy not so much


MouseBoi420

Depends on what you would say is fine. People have been put on disability from concussions before. And getting another before the first one heals? He's going to experience some complications no doubt.


donttellmywife1991

Joe Lopez and the gang have been great for Volk’s career but they really screwed the pooch with letting him fight Ilia before June.


Existing-Pattern-775

with letting volk fight islam on short notice*


donttellmywife1991

Well both. I understand pushing for the Islam fight as it was possibly his last shot at Double Champ


daKingKhan

Islam on short notice wasn’t as dumb of a move as fighting Ilia without a proper rest coming of a brutal headkick KO. Against Islam at least Volk got a huge payday, a fat new contract and didn't have a risk of losing his own title.


MumrikDK

When you see the way Islam/Khabib's crew talk to each other, a typical camp does end up looking like a crew of Yes men, just not on the BJ Penn level.


knyelvr

A crew of yes men? I mean have you seen the results? Edit: I’m dumb


ThrowaWayneGretzky99

He means other camps, not Islam or Khabib's


knyelvr

Oh I just read it wrong my bad


slinkymello

Is there a better dude than Islam? I feel like how can you not love the guy?


Existing-Pattern-775

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slinkymello

Haha what a pimp


Existing-Pattern-775

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SnooPredictions480

Smash?


Existing-Pattern-775

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Ghodzy1

It´s good to see prime DC again.


noeku1t

LOL. Miss the days when did dadbod dad could murder everyone on the planet (except JJ).


EffectiveTradition53

Daniel "Fuck your aspect ratio" Cormier


slinkymello

Lolololol


sakiwebo

Is there a better dude than a guy that thinks you deserve to burn in hell because you attend hip-hop concerts? Probably....


ArmaniMania

islam and khabib are very based


witcherstrife

I just looked it up too. When Islam got KOed he wasn’t scheduled fight again until 7months later. It’s even more interesting cause he was fighting killers/potential champions


Prestigious_Agent_84

Usually guys from these 3rd world country-kind-of-regions ( I know Dagestan ain't a country) don't have nearly as much common sense as these Dagestani. IDK how they do it, but they are VERY well grounded in reality.


brazilianfreak

I think it's mostly because the few Dagestani fighters we see are mostly from the same very suscefull camps, meanwhile in other countries like USA or Brasil there are a dozens and dozens of camps with varying cultures.


BadChad81

Man, hard to not like Islam. He's slowly winning me over. As a Khabib fan


Existing-Pattern-775

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Sacabubu

We don't know if Volk wanted to fight despite his team not wanting to


Diplonot

He’s dead on about needing more time off after a KO. Unlike Kabib who was never knocked out, Islam had to build back up after getting KOd and has lived that advice.


Ifyourasswasadog

Craig Jones is 100% a great team member for Volk. His way of translating high level BJJ concepts to MMA is very impressive. Other than Craig and Izzy yeah he’s not got the best team but then again he is coming from a little gym in a country not known for MMA so it’s impressive he got as far as he has.


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I don't think islam was thinking of craig when it came to this, craig isn't deciding what volk does he just gets flown in to teach him grappling which he did a very good job of.


Johnyextra111

A little team with 2 absolute dominant champions.


Ifyourasswasadog

Volk mainly trains out of Freestyle Fighting Gym in Aus he does sometimes go to CKB for training and also sometimes to Tiger Muay Thai but for most of his career he’s been with Freestyle with Joe Lopez as his head coach. I do believe he spent some time in the Ilia Camp over at Bangtao MMA in Thailand at least for a period of time.


wubbalubbadubdub45

Craig jones speciality is losing any big match he has or anything for 1st place, he coached volk well in that regard for the islam fights


sluis7758

Underrated comment Craig Groupies should have a better sense of humor just like their lord and savior Craig jokes I mean jones


Ifyourasswasadog

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daKingKhan

He’s right. Look at Dustin who is the same age as Volk, also got headkick KO’d but took proper rest. Then he returned against a young dangerous prospect, like Volk, but took him out.   Volk’s team indeed failed him.


Glum-Ad7651

BSD and Ilia are levels apart. BSD goes in with zero striking defense. Ilia is a finisher and brutalized Emmett


daKingKhan

Both have KO power, with proper rest Dustin was able to weather the many clean punches he got, Volk couldn't take 1 clean punch.  And lets not overlook the fact that Volk hadn't suffered a KO in 10 years till Islam, while Dustin has been KO’d a few times, so if anything Volk should've been able to take the punches, but he didn't let his chin recover with a proper rest. 


witcherstrife

Volk got KOed by Islam by a nasty head kick and then probably when right back into training/sparring. Everyone forgets the damage fighters get from training. Like Islam said, he should have take a few months of no training and just recovering.


Glum-Ad7651

Volk has been wobbled by Mendes,Ortega,Max. That clean shot from Ilia would put anyone out. The Islam KO did make Volk a bit tentative but not many will survive Ilia's punch.


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Volk’s head coach, the old creep I forgot his name, needs to fucking go. Dude is delusional as fuck. He said something like "oh yeah Ilia had a puncher’s chance and he got lucky" bro what? 💀


Existing-Pattern-775

the dude with the beard? eugene i believe?


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No the old guy with short hair. I think his name is Joe but not sure


Existing-Pattern-775

i think ure right, joe lopez or sth like that.


bad_pilot69

Joe lopez and Eugene bareman, both are ass, riding on adeanaya & volk talent, i feel like both of them would be much better under real great coaches like tim welch who knows whats up


mulligun

Oh give it a break, he's Volk's coach what do you want him to say? "Yeah Ilia is just better than Volk I guess, he's getting old and Ilia's skillset is too much for him." Fuckin Jesus, the goofy takes MMA fans have are limitless.


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"He was better than us on that night, but we’ll be working hard to correct the mistakes we’ve made. We don’t see it as a fluke or a lucky shot, Ilia did what he had to do." Something like that.


ser_perfeito

honest question, when Islam got KO'd by Pantoja, did he took some months of to recover?


Existing-Pattern-775

nearly a year and it wasnt pantoja


ser_perfeito

Yeah, smart decision. Yes, it was Pantoja, stop lying to society


Existing-Pattern-775

bro google it haha


ser_perfeito

https://preview.redd.it/7kajx8ce3ioc1.png?width=776&format=png&auto=webp&s=f58d61bf6c203d8a6cc99ee4615ae1edaeb3c072 that's LITERALLY Pantoja mate. enough of your lies boi


Alpha1stOne

Some people can't or wont accept the truth. Also when will Pantoja stop ducking the rematch. Afraid to put his belt on the line?!!


ser_perfeito

Pantoja won't beat the same guy twice, he only did that to Moreno or Royval. Islam is not on Pantoja level


Derangedd1

I'm sure Alex's mental health was a factor. But man... If he was feeling bad coming off of the close fight with Islam, I can't imagine what it's like now. It was obviously dumb to fight so soon.


Galaxanz

While he’s probably right there is two sides to this. We don’t know how bad Alex’s head was at (I mean mentally) prior to Islam 2. He said fairly openly he was in a bad place, and it seems to me that an inactive (as Islam suggested, 3-4 months rest) Alex, might be worse off than a motivated to get back to the gym Alex. It’s just speculation. I don’t know that it’s fair to say his team is bad: they’ve been very very successful until only recently. Very rarely injured (at least to the level that he can’t fight), and he is 35 so really on the top end of 145lb age bracket at that level. Again, Islam is probably right, but there are two sides.


Glum-Ad7651

Exactly. And if he didn take the fight and lost to Ilia he wouldnt get that rematch


Thecobs

I want to see Volk go train with Islam for the Toporia rematch


Existing-Pattern-775

volk could train with islam, mike tyson and jon jones and he would still lose.


whicheverguard232

Dude who knocked Volk out cares more about him than Volk's own team does. Goddamit.


vivi9090

You see that he is genuinely concerned about Volk and wants to look out for him. I think when two men share an octogon with each other and go to war they develop a kind of spiritual connection.


Existing-Pattern-775

did u just make them gay


SosaBlade

I think this man just did that💀


[deleted]

Just look at what city kick boxing did to Izzy. On his way up he was a beast but as soon as he got the belt he fought way to safely and became boring.


StationPigeon

He is right, his team should have not been yes men and told him to take his time


Existing-Pattern-775

100%


natronemeans20

Volk is a grown man, probably got offered life changing money and couldn't say no, can't blame his team.


Shallbecomeabat

What is dis recovery?


Existing-Pattern-775

bratha who give him


timgoes2somalia

They got bills to pay and are not sponsored by literally royalty. 


Existing-Pattern-775

thats a reason to risk ur fighters health?


timgoes2somalia

Mma is a risk to health. Islam is talking out of turn 


Existing-Pattern-775

so you multiply that risk several fold by making ur fighter step in on short notice?


MouseBoi420

He makes enough to take time to recover. He's not one of the undercard guys making 15k a fight.


timgoes2somalia

Francis had to take a loan to get by as a champ, and he didnt have a wife and kids to support


MouseBoi420

Didn't he have an expensive ass watch then? He made 600k from gane. And I'm pretty sure he borrowed 200k from Usman. Yeah he's underpaid as an athlete, they all are. But he must not be good with his money.


MouseBoi420

And now his earning potential has dropped significantly.


UnDeuxTroisCats

Yeah he should have done like Islam and only fight once a year and only fighter from lower weight class


TheAngriestPoster

He doesn’t fight once a year, and you should blame Oliveira for pulling out


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Existing-Pattern-775

blame charles for that


donttellmywife1991

Stupid comment