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Hunter being put in these clips that are out now just leads me to think the ufc is starting their transition to making Hunter the face of the ufc. Maybe it’s the 5 year plan and then when Hunter is the guy at pressers, Dana steps down and retires a bajillionaire
You’re right.
I was trying to find the clip I thought I imagined and every time he was basically alluding to it but he never officially names the person he is speaking about.
But yeah by now over the years everyone’s deduced it’s Hunter.
Even more interesting was the state of Dana’s health in the clips from years ago. Looked awful and sounded just as bad when speaking. Wonder how his health turn around has influenced this.
Isn't that kind of crazy of charles to say he wouldnt be ready to fight Islam, because it wouldnt really have been short notice. They were scheduled to fight at 294 and charles pulled out due to a cut so he still wouldve been ready
He's too used to the fact that fighters are scared of him on the ground and doesn't dare to follow along. When Islam instantly dove in and choke him in less than 20s he probably never mentally recovered from that
Islam is younger than him and has said he wants to stay around for several more years.
So that’s not a realistic hope for Charles. He’s old himself and will likely no longer be elite within 1-2 years.
I just don't think Charles wants the Islam fight.
He's made this fight hard to book and reports keep surfacing that with Islam it's always the same story. He doesn't want it or it's not enough time.
I think Charles is kinda just waiting for someone to take the belt from Islam but then he got beat by Arman.
I’m confused by this. They were trying to get Islam to fight 3 weeks later at MSG? Am I understanding this correctly? yeah oliveira could’ve been ready but no way in hell were they going to have Islam fight 3 weeks later even if he didn’t take any damage from the volk fight. This just screams as trying to make a fight that no way in hell was gonna happen.
He had just been saying it in general. The fact that he didn't take a single significant strike and his desire to fight at MSG makes it likely in my mind Islam may have taken the fight
I’m just saying there’s no way in hell was Islam going to take that fight. Respectfully I don’t mean to direct this towards you but it’s ridiculous to think Dana and Hunter are being serious about this. This has to be them doing it for the cameras to show they try to “make fights”. Islam already has a hard cut to 155. He’s not having a one week training camp to then fly across the world to cut against to 155. This is just like when Dana said they offered Leon 3 fighters at 300 to later come out to be shav, kham, and islam. All fighters that participate in Ramadam and one that’s visa status is questionable. The only fighter who was able and willing to take the fight was not offered the fight. It was just a made up fight, the ufc weren’t serious about it.
idk why you getting downvoted, its true, why would he get another L just to entertain the fans lol? he just got beat easily by islam, so chances are he will again and literally no time has passed to improve.
It is technically ducking. I think people dislike the use of the word because of its usual negative connotation.
Charles ducked Islam, but he has no incentive not to. He's not shooting shit. He's not trying to spin some narrative. He just doesn't want the fight, and that's that.
He was champ already and is 34, was chasing the McGregor fight in 2021 and McGregor told him to wait when he broke his leg. The Colby fight at 170 would be solid too. Also yes, Islam is a stylistic problem for him.
I'm sick of people saying "stylistic problem" instead of simply a superior/more skilled fighter. Islam is a better grappler and striker than charles. That's it.
Then he's a better mma striker. Just look at what happened in their fight. Charles really couldn't touch Islam on the feet while he got countered hard and dropped
He is generally a better striker.
Like Charles truly feared Islams takedown when he tried to flying knee him and got caught by a mean right hook.
This is mma and when your boxing is extremely effective than it doesnt matter if you are a worse “kickboxer”.
Like Islam literally outboxxed Dustin
It’s crazy how fast an opportunity window closes in the UFC in certain situations. Now oliveria lost to another contender and he’s fallen down and has to climb back up to another shot, probably 2 good wins now at age 35 in the most competitive division. I bet he wishes he took that shot now.
hopefully he can climb back, oliveria era was so fun to watch
The flip side to at we’ve also seen (cough: Volk) is someone takes a fight when they’re not ready, loses and never gets the shot again. I think Charles thought he’d win the next fight and cement his rematch on his terms. The gamble fighters take.
That said, nothing is certain. If an opportunity presents you gotta take.
Fair enough. I could see the fastest route to a third fight is if Volk does what he says and beats Porier then Ilia by years end. Ilia would also need to lose to Max. Then I could see them doing it an Islam v Volk 3
Personally I'd love to see him defend the FW belt once or twice more before doing an Islam v Volk 3
You know, if you were invited to a party and you didn’t show up, you might not be invited to the next one. At least that's what they say in my country.
Charles had a chance, he first canceled the fight due to injury, and then simply did not agree. Therefore, the UFC decided that it was easier to give Poirier a passable opponent and come to an agreement with him than to come to an agreement with Charles.
Many fighters behave like children who need to wipe their noses and only be given candy. That’s why the UFC really loves champions who don’t name their next opponents, but leave it up to the UFC.
I think Charles understands better than anyone you don’t fight Islam without being ready.
That’s like expecting to land 5 Hail Mary’s back to back. Shit probably ain’t happening.
Charles had already trained considerably for Islam before his last minute cut. He's already faced him once too.
So he wouldn't be starting fresh at all, but I understand if he wants everything to align perfectly for another title shot and be 100% ready. Or he may just want to wait out Islam.
I'm not sure the response would be so favorable here if he wasn't a fan favorite though lol.
Ikr, I swear to God that notion is so fucking stupid, only said by casuals. First of all for some reasons those idiots act like only title defenses count, not any other match. For example before Dustin fight, those idiots said Islam "was never tested against real LW because he never defended against one" like, tf you mean untested, he literally beats Charles for the title tho ? How does the fact that that fight not being a title defense have to do with him testing against a real LW or not ? Plus, Volk's a FW but he gained weight to fight Islam on same weight so the notion that Volk being FW is somehow not a real test for Islam is even more casual and stupid. Plus Volk is a fucking #1 PFP, not a nobody, who is much better than most of the LW anyways. I swear to God MMA/ UFC has countless idiots with the worst takes ever (Sorry for long rants lol)
I believe this was a BS fight. No way in hell were they tryin for make Islam take a fight 3 weeks later. Neither would he accept since Khabib said they always want a full camp and don’t believe in quick turn arounds, especially 3 weeks.
Charles is one of my favourite fighters but he clearly doesn't want any part of Islam again. He should go up to 170. He's probably not going to beat Islam or Arman again and he probably loses to gamrot as well.
I remember Chael said this after Oliveira pulled out the first time and people thought he was just being a hater, but he was right all along it seems. For whatever reason, Charles just doesn’t want the fight that badly.
Islam beats him in the most convincing way possible... beating Charles at his own game. Like Jon said, some fighters just have another fighters' numbers. "If Sambo was easy it would be called BJJ"
He'll probably try to wait out for Islam to move up and hope for title shot.
He can beat everyone at LW theoretically. But his mentality let's him down against well-rounded opponents.
I was really excited to see what adjustments he would make against Islam.
Aren’t pornos documentaries too ? Life of a pizza man. Step sister at home stuck in the dryer. It’s so nice to see these things happen in real time like they do every day.
Filming a doc. But this move to seems it’s all for the cameras. They were trying to get Islam to fight oilveeira 3 weeks later? No way In hell were they going to do that. That seems like they were just “making” a fight they knew wasn’t gonna happen.
Wonder about the ethics of this background footage with fighters. It must be in their contracts that all recordings of them are owned by the ufc. Something slimy about it all to me.
I think it's fair for any fighter to say they don't want to fight Islam without a full length no problem camp because honestly no one has a chance without one.
That “hard work” also seems to make a fight that no way in hell was gonna happen. If I’m understanding this correctly they were trying to get Islam to fight 3 weeks later? I call BS and this was a fight being made for the cameras that they knew wasn’t going to happen.
Seeing some people ask where to watch, idk of this is only a uk thing but I can watch it on fight pass. Just search inside the ufc and it should come up
Charles has declined the Islam fight multiple times
This is not the first time has done it
Can't blame him after getting schooled in that fight when he was on an 11 fight winstreak
I think he is waiting for Islam to move to WW
Where is all this footage from?
Fight Inc: Inside the UFC documentary
Is it free to watch?
I went to the Roku channel online and was able to watch it on its website
Thanks mate
Anyone got a link there’s no roku in UK
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Hunter being put in these clips that are out now just leads me to think the ufc is starting their transition to making Hunter the face of the ufc. Maybe it’s the 5 year plan and then when Hunter is the guy at pressers, Dana steps down and retires a bajillionaire
truth is that Hunter has been running the UFC since 2019/2020
For sure but it’s clear they’re putting him more in the spotlight as of late
Yea , good to have proper backup plan in case tomato head does pulls off
I think you’re right. Everything has a purpose.
I feel like Dana as openly acknowledged this is what will be during media pressers he’s done.
He’s always super vague and never mentions when he thinks he’ll ever leave. I feel like things are already in motion for his exit in the next decade
You’re right. I was trying to find the clip I thought I imagined and every time he was basically alluding to it but he never officially names the person he is speaking about. But yeah by now over the years everyone’s deduced it’s Hunter. Even more interesting was the state of Dana’s health in the clips from years ago. Looked awful and sounded just as bad when speaking. Wonder how his health turn around has influenced this.
We all hate on the guy but it sure as hell going to feel weird seeing UFC without Dana
Nah Dana goona die with that company. Nobody taking over till Dana dies like Jerry jones with the cowboys or rob Kraft with the patriots
Dana himself has been talking about who his replacement could be for a long time now.
Isn't that kind of crazy of charles to say he wouldnt be ready to fight Islam, because it wouldnt really have been short notice. They were scheduled to fight at 294 and charles pulled out due to a cut so he still wouldve been ready
he was mentally un-prepared tbf
He got flamed at the time, but honestly Chael was right about this all along. For whatever reason, Charles just doesn’t want the Islam fight that bad.
Nobody has ever manhandled him on the ground like Islam did. I don't blame him
He got dropped right before the sub too
He's too used to the fact that fighters are scared of him on the ground and doesn't dare to follow along. When Islam instantly dove in and choke him in less than 20s he probably never mentally recovered from that
😂
Nothing funny stfu
Was that not a joke? Thats even funnier then. Imagine Islam saying hes “mentally un-prepared” 😂
he's hoping Islam to retire early or jump to another division
Islam is younger than him and has said he wants to stay around for several more years. So that’s not a realistic hope for Charles. He’s old himself and will likely no longer be elite within 1-2 years.
I just don't think Charles wants the Islam fight. He's made this fight hard to book and reports keep surfacing that with Islam it's always the same story. He doesn't want it or it's not enough time. I think Charles is kinda just waiting for someone to take the belt from Islam but then he got beat by Arman.
I’m confused by this. They were trying to get Islam to fight 3 weeks later at MSG? Am I understanding this correctly? yeah oliveira could’ve been ready but no way in hell were they going to have Islam fight 3 weeks later even if he didn’t take any damage from the volk fight. This just screams as trying to make a fight that no way in hell was gonna happen.
Islam didn't tskeca singke significant strike and said he wanted to fight at MSG
When did he say that?? He said that recently but never did he say that between the volk fight and the MSG card, at least not the ones I can remember
He had just been saying it in general. The fact that he didn't take a single significant strike and his desire to fight at MSG makes it likely in my mind Islam may have taken the fight
I’m just saying there’s no way in hell was Islam going to take that fight. Respectfully I don’t mean to direct this towards you but it’s ridiculous to think Dana and Hunter are being serious about this. This has to be them doing it for the cameras to show they try to “make fights”. Islam already has a hard cut to 155. He’s not having a one week training camp to then fly across the world to cut against to 155. This is just like when Dana said they offered Leon 3 fighters at 300 to later come out to be shav, kham, and islam. All fighters that participate in Ramadam and one that’s visa status is questionable. The only fighter who was able and willing to take the fight was not offered the fight. It was just a made up fight, the ufc weren’t serious about it.
He ducked him. Simple as. And I bet the cut was an accident he wasn’t too annoyed about
He didn't take the fight because he already lost fairly. He's being true to himself. It's not ducking someone when he literally just lost to him.
idk why you getting downvoted, its true, why would he get another L just to entertain the fans lol? he just got beat easily by islam, so chances are he will again and literally no time has passed to improve.
Yup and honestly it's not like olivera is calling Islam out. He understands Islam is the better fighter right now
It’s the literal definition of ducking. Regardless of if he lost previously, he’s avoiding a match because he doesn’t think he can win
It is technically ducking. I think people dislike the use of the word because of its usual negative connotation. Charles ducked Islam, but he has no incentive not to. He's not shooting shit. He's not trying to spin some narrative. He just doesn't want the fight, and that's that.
The title and money should be plenty incentive
Money is one thing, but if he doesn't think he can win the title, what kind of an incentive is that?
He's not ducking him if they already fought recently.
I agree
The cut still might not have fully healed it was only 1 month after his fight with Islam was supposed to happen.
He was champ already and is 34, was chasing the McGregor fight in 2021 and McGregor told him to wait when he broke his leg. The Colby fight at 170 would be solid too. Also yes, Islam is a stylistic problem for him.
I'm sick of people saying "stylistic problem" instead of simply a superior/more skilled fighter. Islam is a better grappler and striker than charles. That's it.
Definitely not a better striker. He is a better striker because the fear of his grappling skills.
Then he's a better mma striker. Just look at what happened in their fight. Charles really couldn't touch Islam on the feet while he got countered hard and dropped
He is less dangerous on the feet than Charles but is much better defensively that Charles, and imo that makes him better on the feet.
He is generally a better striker. Like Charles truly feared Islams takedown when he tried to flying knee him and got caught by a mean right hook. This is mma and when your boxing is extremely effective than it doesnt matter if you are a worse “kickboxer”. Like Islam literally outboxxed Dustin
Because the champion has a name.
It’s crazy how fast an opportunity window closes in the UFC in certain situations. Now oliveria lost to another contender and he’s fallen down and has to climb back up to another shot, probably 2 good wins now at age 35 in the most competitive division. I bet he wishes he took that shot now. hopefully he can climb back, oliveria era was so fun to watch
The flip side to at we’ve also seen (cough: Volk) is someone takes a fight when they’re not ready, loses and never gets the shot again. I think Charles thought he’d win the next fight and cement his rematch on his terms. The gamble fighters take. That said, nothing is certain. If an opportunity presents you gotta take.
>cough: Volk) is someone takes a fight when they’re not ready, loses and never gets the shot again I bet he's gonna get an Ilia rematch
I more meant Islam x 2.
Fair enough. I could see the fastest route to a third fight is if Volk does what he says and beats Porier then Ilia by years end. Ilia would also need to lose to Max. Then I could see them doing it an Islam v Volk 3 Personally I'd love to see him defend the FW belt once or twice more before doing an Islam v Volk 3
Isn't Ilia vs Max confirmed for the sphere? May be a rematch, but there's a chance it's not for the title.
I think they are in talks of that. Regardless, I believe Volkanovski's next featherweight fight will be for the title.
On that we agree. Volk deserves that shit 1000%
Nah he's gonna be fighting holloway for the title again lol
Yup and the opposite to that is guys like Bisping who took late notice fights stacked against them, yet end up winning and changing their life forever
You know, if you were invited to a party and you didn’t show up, you might not be invited to the next one. At least that's what they say in my country. Charles had a chance, he first canceled the fight due to injury, and then simply did not agree. Therefore, the UFC decided that it was easier to give Poirier a passable opponent and come to an agreement with him than to come to an agreement with Charles. Many fighters behave like children who need to wipe their noses and only be given candy. That’s why the UFC really loves champions who don’t name their next opponents, but leave it up to the UFC.
I think Charles understands better than anyone you don’t fight Islam without being ready. That’s like expecting to land 5 Hail Mary’s back to back. Shit probably ain’t happening.
I wonder why they said no?
He said he wasn't training in camp/cut hadn't healed yet.
Might he needs more time to prepare for Islam. Would be fair actually. He had nothing for him in the first fight
Charles had already trained considerably for Islam before his last minute cut. He's already faced him once too. So he wouldn't be starting fresh at all, but I understand if he wants everything to align perfectly for another title shot and be 100% ready. Or he may just want to wait out Islam. I'm not sure the response would be so favorable here if he wasn't a fan favorite though lol.
>Might he needs more time to prepare for Islam. He had a full camp a month before
Physically ready. Theres a reason he pulled out to begin with.
He pulled out because of a cut. It would’ve healed by 295.
He’s scared
Yet some mfs would say islam only fought 1 real LW. Yeah like it was his call to fight volk again.
Ikr, I swear to God that notion is so fucking stupid, only said by casuals. First of all for some reasons those idiots act like only title defenses count, not any other match. For example before Dustin fight, those idiots said Islam "was never tested against real LW because he never defended against one" like, tf you mean untested, he literally beats Charles for the title tho ? How does the fact that that fight not being a title defense have to do with him testing against a real LW or not ? Plus, Volk's a FW but he gained weight to fight Islam on same weight so the notion that Volk being FW is somehow not a real test for Islam is even more casual and stupid. Plus Volk is a fucking #1 PFP, not a nobody, who is much better than most of the LW anyways. I swear to God MMA/ UFC has countless idiots with the worst takes ever (Sorry for long rants lol)
Hunter Campbell gives me such douchebag vibes
for sure i can bet he was in frat in his younger days..
You love that?
I hate hunter that absolute smug mf
Shitty lawyer behavior
Raise rent on a single mother with 4 kids type person
It’s like he’s in a competition for biggest douchebag of all time.
with Dana
idk him, whatd he do that makes him a villain
He manipulated aljio saying if he beats Sean he will get Sean's audience. That's probably not gonna happen changes his style and hunter knows that.
What is this drive to survive UFC edition?
Holy shit I didn't believe "Charles doesn't want the fight allegations" but this does put a new light on it lol
He already had to pull out because of the cut this would only have been 3 weeks later.
Enough for a cut to heal
Not properly to get into a fist fight.
I believe this was a BS fight. No way in hell were they tryin for make Islam take a fight 3 weeks later. Neither would he accept since Khabib said they always want a full camp and don’t believe in quick turn arounds, especially 3 weeks.
Charles fumbled the bag so hard
Charles is one of my favourite fighters but he clearly doesn't want any part of Islam again. He should go up to 170. He's probably not going to beat Islam or Arman again and he probably loses to gamrot as well.
I remember Chael said this after Oliveira pulled out the first time and people thought he was just being a hater, but he was right all along it seems. For whatever reason, Charles just doesn’t want the fight that badly.
Islam beats him in the most convincing way possible... beating Charles at his own game. Like Jon said, some fighters just have another fighters' numbers. "If Sambo was easy it would be called BJJ"
He'll probably try to wait out for Islam to move up and hope for title shot. He can beat everyone at LW theoretically. But his mentality let's him down against well-rounded opponents. I was really excited to see what adjustments he would make against Islam.
Glass cannon
Oliveira refused to fight twice and pulled out a another time. This guy is in fear of Islam.
Are these reenactments or did these dudes just have cameras following them around whenever they were doing business shit and talking to fighters lol
The latter. It’s called filming a documentary
What's a documentary? Like a non-porno movie?
Aren’t pornos documentaries too ? Life of a pizza man. Step sister at home stuck in the dryer. It’s so nice to see these things happen in real time like they do every day.
Bro idk I'm just jerking it to everything
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Why would you ever record something if it doesn't have naked/near naked people touching each other
PBS Arthur is the only thing that I can think of tbh. I'm still jerkin tho. Arthur's mom can get it for sure.
Filming a doc. But this move to seems it’s all for the cameras. They were trying to get Islam to fight oilveeira 3 weeks later? No way In hell were they going to do that. That seems like they were just “making” a fight they knew wasn’t gonna happen.
What’s the name of that Documentary?
Fight Inc: Inside the UFC.
Thanks
Fuck all that dramatic music man hahahah, they make it seem like they‘ll be killed if they dont put a banger event
Once Dana White's gone I really don't see fighters respecting any other executives that come later... especially if they are like Hunter lol.
"I think I can pull that off, to be honest with you..." Am I a good boy, daddy? Do you like that, daddy? Do you love that, daddy?
That arm triangle that islam put on him haunts him to this day…
Hunter Campbell might have the easiest job in the world.
Ooh lost a little respect for Charles there
Why? No way Islam would cut weight again 3 weeks later anyway.
Yeah he could've dude is a professional fighter and took no damage at all
Lol
He also has notoriously brutal weight cuts, there’s very little chance he can do that in 3 weeks
But he's never missed weight, that's all that matters.
Not disagreeing there but I don’t think he can make weight in 3 weeks
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Does the documentary say when these clips were filmed?
Wonder about the ethics of this background footage with fighters. It must be in their contracts that all recordings of them are owned by the ufc. Something slimy about it all to me.
His coach not Charles
I way Islam would have expected to fight 3 weeks later his weight cuts seem pretty bad he ain’t gonna do another in 3 weeks later.
wtf do bronx
Kid just doesn’t want to fight
Even as a champ, LW duck Islam
I think it's fair for any fighter to say they don't want to fight Islam without a full length no problem camp because honestly no one has a chance without one.
This is all that “hard work” Dana boast about all the time. Sitting on a couch being fed ideas I guess. What a real hustler, wow!
That “hard work” also seems to make a fight that no way in hell was gonna happen. If I’m understanding this correctly they were trying to get Islam to fight 3 weeks later? I call BS and this was a fight being made for the cameras that they knew wasn’t going to happen.
lol say what you want about Dana but this is such a weird take. Guy clearly works hard.
Exactly 😂 Dana had 2 billionaire friends that gave him an amazing job. He’s never worked a hard day in his life.
Hunter is the worst
Seeing some people ask where to watch, idk of this is only a uk thing but I can watch it on fight pass. Just search inside the ufc and it should come up
you see islam is lying when he said charles doesnt want to fight him
Where is all this footage from?
Hunter reminds me of Jonathan Franzen.
Are these those infamous meeting Mondays Dana bitches about?
Charles isn’t going to sniff a title again after the reactions from these two video. UFC holds a grudge
Hunter talking makes my skin crawl.
They’re really bad actors
these two are the biggest scumbags of the UFC lol
Charles threw away multiple title shots because he's scared of ever being locked in there with Islam again.
This is fake news. We all know them Dagis are the ones that duck. AI video.
Charles is a pussie no doubt now
Charles knew it would be another loss.
Hunter acting like making a phone call is some kind of momentous achievement "I think I can pull that off."
Islam was hurt from that Volk fight so he would've said no anyway
Charles has declined the Islam fight multiple times This is not the first time has done it Can't blame him after getting schooled in that fight when he was on an 11 fight winstreak I think he is waiting for Islam to move to WW
yeah, two things can be true at the same time
Hurt where?
Shin
Why do these dudes dress like teenagers. Should be in suits for this job
If he thinks he could have pulled that off then why didn’t he? Corrupt business man thinking he can use his power and not offer extra money
Shows in the clip why he didn’t, Charles and his camp didn’t think he was ready