I just recently saw an interview with Rampage where he says this was the first time he was actually mad at his opponent. [rampage source](https://youtu.be/Eb__Ec6am5E?si=FHAlMgVN_DOI6EPq)
Oh yeah bro, in all likelihood Rampage KO'd Arona with his big ass head. I wouldn't overturn that result for anything though, idc if it was technically ended by the illegal headbutt
Indeed, knockouts from slams are more common than from headbutts. While there have been headbutt KOs, especially in Lethwei, cuts from headbutts are far more likely than KOs.
Most Lethwei headbutts aren't taking place during a huge body slam, in which a guy on top is headbutting with all of his momentum onto an opponent's head bouncing off the canvas
I'm watching the highlight reel of every slam in UFC history and so far I've seen Tito vs Tanner and Steele vs Kim as also headbutt kos. So that's 4 so far.
*Edit wanted to add two more Vitale vs Lindland and Burkman vs Morgan
Yes, even the commentators catch it during slow mo. It's because the canvas the UFC uses is cushioned so it's difficult to ko anyone by just slamming them. Let at old clips of Fedor getting dropped on his head and coming back to win the fight.
In this case, the back of Arona's head hit the canvas and the headbutt hit his forehead, so it seems far more likely that the slam knocked him out.
More examples which easily come to mind are Jordan Leavitt against Matt Wiman, who used a forearm to brace against his head and force it into the canvas. Or Jessica Andrade against Rose Namajunas, who dunked her on her head without following her to the ground. No headbutt when Cody Brundage slammed Zachary Reese. No headbutt when Drakkar Klose slammed Joe Solecki. No headbutt in Benitz vs Bandenay. Most slam ko's I can think of off the top of my head had no headbutt.
I mean, one can argue that this type of slam, through impacting the back of the head, and likely resulting in a headbutt anyway, shouldn't even be legal. But it does take away too many options. Weird case. Rules are weird.
The knee to the head from Cro Cop to Kazuyuki Fujita back in 2001, in Cro Cops first MMA fight, that left a [gaping hole](https://youtu.be/8RljnQS4h9A) in the mans skull, is the most brutal thing I saw. The fact that Fujita was still able to stand after that is fucking amazing
Early UFC was wild. That fight never should’ve happened. I feel bad for Paul Herrera. He was a solidly built ~180lb wrestler fighting a fucking 6’4 240lb kickboxer who also knew how to grapple.
Like normally in the freakshow weight difference fights the big guy is super fat or old or generally has some sort of disadvantage to even the odds but Gary Goodridge was in substantially better shape than him pound for pound, and had a solid 60lbs on him…
Which one? Lol
My personal favorite is where Wanderlei catches him in the Thai clinch and proceeds to just land knee after knee after knee until Rampage hits the canvas.
You're correct, but to be fair, Wanderlei loved his knees from the Thai clinch and I'm almost positive he landed a shit ton of good knees in the first fight also. Lol
In the first fight he goes for the knees and gets a TKO victory, he was spamming them while he had Rampage against the ropes, they didn’t look like they were really hitting but the ref stopped for inactivity from Rampage. The second fight is where Silva clinches at the end, spams knees, and as he’s kneeing he’s pulling Rampage backwards, and finally the last knee hits and Rampage goes limp but the momentum of being pulled makes him land into the ropes and he hangs there limp with blood dropping out his forehead.
Two of my favorite fights ever.
I seen Rampage in Memphis at the movies when I was in highschool. He was there with his kids taking them to see alvin and the chipmunks and me and a buddy took two girls to the same movie. It came to a funny part in the movie and everybody start laughing. Laughter dies down and you hear Rampage in the back still laughing lol. Then after the movie I went to go piss and he comes in after with his kid. He takes him to a urinal and tells him okay pull down your pants and do your business. He then asks his son you done, okay good now shake it like a salt shakka. Shit had me dying
Early stoppage smh, refs in those days did not know how to let a man work his BJJ from the bottom position, he is obviously going for a classic corpse guard right before the ref jumps in, it's a real shame to looks like he had Rampage right where he wanted him.
Next person that tried that their opponent just let go of the triangle and stood up. It’s bafflingly easy to avoid if you think about it but in the moment the instinct to hold on got the better of Arona.
You know what's funny? I recently learned Bisping still hates Hendo for making that his logo. Not for doing it mind you. For making it his gym logo. Hendo jokes about like "dude you're not even in the logo."
Punches to the back of the head = Illegal
Slamming somebody on the back of their head intentionally = Legal
I get that it is within the rules but MMA is a sport with made up rules in the first place so it's not like they couldn't just have both be against the rules if back of the head shots are supposed to be banned for safety reasons lol. Always struck me as a weird one.
This wouldn’t have happened if Arona let go. IK this is pride, but in the UFC I’m pretty sure this would be completely legal, as long the as the recipient was holding onto the slammer. Makes enough sense to me, imo.
Thats what happened to Rose too, you gotta let go of the submission even if it puts you in a terrible position because thats still better than getting dropped on your head.
The point is that the rules are made up so if you can't punch somebody in the back of the head because it's too dangerous, why would this be any different? It's not a question of whether it's allowed or not. It is as the rules currently are laid out.
Holding onto to submission attempts is a risky strategy when your opponent is standing. Ortega vs Swanson comes to mind where Cub stayed standing and the opposite happened he couldn’t defend at all. Then there’s Namajunas vs Andrade where she wouldn’t let go of the Kimura and gets slammed on her neck.
The whole sport is split second decisions if you think about it
As commenters above noted, Rampage stated that this incident was the last time that he allowed himself to became enraged in the ring. In his words, he called the adrenaline rush “unlimited strength.” Truthfully, probably referring to these factors plus old school ‘roid rage. I like Rampage because he’s always been pretty transparent about all of that.
Same. Pride always had so much more pageantry and the audience put any other promotion to shame. It took Rampage coming over to make me care about UFC. Rampage knocking out Liddell was such a moment for Pride fans, especially if you watched it at a bar in the US. I was howling my ass off.
Prior to Rampage coming over, I had only watched the handful of UFC tournaments you could rent from blockbuster. UFC could learn a lot from Pride's presentation if they wanted to appeal to a larger audience. Probably won't happen until Dana finally murders his wife.
pretty cool to see a legend like Rampage getting some appreciation around here.
Dude fought:
Wanderlei (4x), Shogun, Hendo, Arona, Sakuraba, Igor Vovchancyn, Chuck Liddell (2x), Chael Sonnen, King Mo, Fedor, that's a crazy resume.
Arona's head bounce off the mat meets Rampage's head with his feet off the ground was the impact.
The slo-mo video when he hits Arona with that second punch when he was already dead gets me. Super necessary.
Arona went on a terror after this fight until he met Shogun.
I was on a flight with Rampage directly behind him. Mike Dolce boarded after us, rampage got up and into his face and I for sure thought I was about to witness a murder. They split, cops came on the plane and talked to them and everybody lived. Prior to this I was thinking rampage didn’t seem that big… he definitely seemed a lot bigger when he was about to kill Dolce.
https://preview.redd.it/m7m77dyl7u7d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5a8913c446a251707f440eeda6ce291ea013a38e
Dolce was asked in an interview who was the hardest fighter to train. He told a story about finding candy bars hidden in Rampage’s bed.
I guess that upset Rampage.
seriously... what IS the most brutal and damaging finishes in the history of the sport? off the top of my head:
Hendo bomb vs Bisping + full body weight jump punch to the face
Rakic with one of the cleanest ever headkicks vs Manuwa
Chandler killing Tony
Ngannou vs (make your pick)
Jeremy Stephens breaking Emmett's face
MVP knee vs Santos
I can continue ofc
It’s always crazy to me to watch them focus on the fighter who won while the other guy is on the floor fighting for his life and the medical team is extremely concerned like you can feel his anxiety trying to get that mouthguard out
Brief look at your profile shows you post constantly and have heavily downvoted comments literally every day.
Have you considered changing the way you are?
I'm not sure if the content has to be about fights in the UFC. But I guess you can argue that this falls under the UFC because the UFC owns pride. They bought it (the brand and all footage) a while back, so they couldn't make a comeback if someone else bought them.
I just recently saw an interview with Rampage where he says this was the first time he was actually mad at his opponent. [rampage source](https://youtu.be/Eb__Ec6am5E?si=FHAlMgVN_DOI6EPq)
He’s told that story like 37times on his pod
So you listen to it 37 times? Weirdo
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“He so stupid all he had to do was let go of my head” 😭😭
Head*
Gave him a headbutt with the slam, he wasn’t cut prior to the slam
Damn, I’ve seen this video hundreds of times and never noticed that. That’s wild
Same! In slow mo his head bounces off the canvas and back into Rampage’s forehead
Same wtf
Oh yeah bro, in all likelihood Rampage KO'd Arona with his big ass head. I wouldn't overturn that result for anything though, idc if it was technically ended by the illegal headbutt
You don’t think it was from the back of his head being slammed from 6ft in the air?
For real, that shit bounced off the ground like a new basketball
Probably took a good minute for the brain to stop bouncing back and forth
That guy is sitting on rampages shoulders, his head has got to be 8-9 feet off the ground, plus centrifugal force, insanely dangerous.
Indeed, knockouts from slams are more common than from headbutts. While there have been headbutt KOs, especially in Lethwei, cuts from headbutts are far more likely than KOs.
Aka ultra competitive headbanging
Most Lethwei headbutts aren't taking place during a huge body slam, in which a guy on top is headbutting with all of his momentum onto an opponent's head bouncing off the canvas
none of it helped
Nah it was a combo of both. Arona had a great jaw. Only Sokoudjou and Shogun ever KOed him other than the slam.
Yeah maybe either would have done it I've seen people get knocked out from being slammed a few times now
Probably, but the headbutt didn't help.
It was really both parts.
Psh Arona clearly illegally head butted Rampage! Look at how much force he intentionally bounced off the canvas with!
yup everyone calls this a slam KO when in reality it was a headbutt KO
His head hits the mat first.
I was just about to ask was the impact so hard that he headbutt him man that's crazy
Honestly, a good number of highlight reel slam KOs are just glorified headbutts
Which ones?
Matt Hughes vs Carlos Newton
That's one. Not what I would call "a good number."
I'm watching the highlight reel of every slam in UFC history and so far I've seen Tito vs Tanner and Steele vs Kim as also headbutt kos. So that's 4 so far. *Edit wanted to add two more Vitale vs Lindland and Burkman vs Morgan
All of them headbutts?
Yes, even the commentators catch it during slow mo. It's because the canvas the UFC uses is cushioned so it's difficult to ko anyone by just slamming them. Let at old clips of Fedor getting dropped on his head and coming back to win the fight.
That's wild. Didn't think it was a majority.
That’s a big ol noggin crashing down on you
Wow I was ready to say you were wrong but it's clear as day in the replay. I was accidental but wow good eye.
Pretty much every slam KO in MMA history is from a headbutt as a result of the slam.
https://preview.redd.it/d1fs1b929t7d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=de999d51f2651eda0ee73f5446260e6bbfa6a94d
Fr, go look
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I should clarify I mean this style of slam (powerbomb?). Not something like someone getting thrown on their head while inverted.
False Andrade slam KOd rose without a headbutt
Sorry, I mean this style of slam. Idk what you call it, a power bomb?
Ah ya that seems more likely, really hard to avoid it that way
In this case, the back of Arona's head hit the canvas and the headbutt hit his forehead, so it seems far more likely that the slam knocked him out. More examples which easily come to mind are Jordan Leavitt against Matt Wiman, who used a forearm to brace against his head and force it into the canvas. Or Jessica Andrade against Rose Namajunas, who dunked her on her head without following her to the ground. No headbutt when Cody Brundage slammed Zachary Reese. No headbutt when Drakkar Klose slammed Joe Solecki. No headbutt in Benitz vs Bandenay. Most slam ko's I can think of off the top of my head had no headbutt.
I mean, one can argue that this type of slam, through impacting the back of the head, and likely resulting in a headbutt anyway, shouldn't even be legal. But it does take away too many options. Weird case. Rules are weird.
Dude even Jackson when he starts bleeding and is being surrounded by his team looks dazed and rocked asf. That headbutt fucked up both dudes.
In an interview Jackson said his jaw was also dislocated from the head kicks
Arona was a legit black belt and strong as shit apparently, makes this slam KO more badass
He was also getting beat tf out of earlier, mix of both prop
Happy birthday to the ground 🎵
I'm not a part of this system
My dads not a phone!
Duhhhh
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Lol
Early stoppage
Mario is that you?
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Lol
Not dead yet
If he dies, he dies
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Gary Goodridge KOing Paul Herrera in the crucifix with about 8 full blown elbows to the temple is still the most brutal finish I've ever seen.
The knee to the head from Cro Cop to Kazuyuki Fujita back in 2001, in Cro Cops first MMA fight, that left a [gaping hole](https://youtu.be/8RljnQS4h9A) in the mans skull, is the most brutal thing I saw. The fact that Fujita was still able to stand after that is fucking amazing
Early UFC was wild. That fight never should’ve happened. I feel bad for Paul Herrera. He was a solidly built ~180lb wrestler fighting a fucking 6’4 240lb kickboxer who also knew how to grapple. Like normally in the freakshow weight difference fights the big guy is super fat or old or generally has some sort of disadvantage to even the odds but Gary Goodridge was in substantially better shape than him pound for pound, and had a solid 60lbs on him…
Gary Goodridge one of those dudes with natural KO power til he’s 80. Was a beast in arm wrestling too
https://youtu.be/BfRA1cnzpR4?si=ddLm4fPLAI2upwR5 There you go my darlings
silva rampage, jones shogun imo
That was nuts, I agree, but Francis Ngannou hammer fists look like assault with a deadly weapon
His fight with Wanderlei Silva was also something else man.
Which one? Lol My personal favorite is where Wanderlei catches him in the Thai clinch and proceeds to just land knee after knee after knee until Rampage hits the canvas.
Hit him with so many knees it was like he smuggled in extra legs
I was more of a Silva fan growing up, but always loved their showdowns. Rampage was a monster for sure and those two produced some great fights.
Really blew him apart
[Same one](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6Xzd36WlW0k&pp=ygUkd2FuZGVybGVpIHNpbHZhIGtub2NrZWQgb3V0IHJhbXBhZ2Ug)
That was their second fight in Pride.
You're correct, but to be fair, Wanderlei loved his knees from the Thai clinch and I'm almost positive he landed a shit ton of good knees in the first fight also. Lol
In the first fight he goes for the knees and gets a TKO victory, he was spamming them while he had Rampage against the ropes, they didn’t look like they were really hitting but the ref stopped for inactivity from Rampage. The second fight is where Silva clinches at the end, spams knees, and as he’s kneeing he’s pulling Rampage backwards, and finally the last knee hits and Rampage goes limp but the momentum of being pulled makes him land into the ropes and he hangs there limp with blood dropping out his forehead. Two of my favorite fights ever.
Mine is Matt Brown vs Diego Snachez.
It’s a thing of beauty
He absolutely bullied him. Diego was spazzing out and Brown calmly elbows his brain out.
I seen Rampage in Memphis at the movies when I was in highschool. He was there with his kids taking them to see alvin and the chipmunks and me and a buddy took two girls to the same movie. It came to a funny part in the movie and everybody start laughing. Laughter dies down and you hear Rampage in the back still laughing lol. Then after the movie I went to go piss and he comes in after with his kid. He takes him to a urinal and tells him okay pull down your pants and do your business. He then asks his son you done, okay good now shake it like a salt shakka. Shit had me dying
😭😭😭😭😭
Lol man is wild
Bro
Lol no shit hand to bible
🎶 yeaaaaah, I walk for miles inside this pit of danger I've swallowed down a thousand years of anger 🎶
Dunnn da da da dunnn
That was like a batista bomb / last ride mix. With some Austin 3:16 ground and pound
Early stoppage smh, refs in those days did not know how to let a man work his BJJ from the bottom position, he is obviously going for a classic corpse guard right before the ref jumps in, it's a real shame to looks like he had Rampage right where he wanted him.
Next person that tried that their opponent just let go of the triangle and stood up. It’s bafflingly easy to avoid if you think about it but in the moment the instinct to hold on got the better of Arona.
Rampage is a legend put respect on his name!
Guy likes to SA women, zero respect from me
... or else he'll have a tenter tantam.
Temper tantrum
[Nah.](https://youtube.com/shorts/PwfRC7x7pAc?si=r9U9UmhvEmbtEHku) That man said tenter tantum.
Dan Hendersons KO on Michael Bisping is the one for me. Absolutely nasty!
You know what's funny? I recently learned Bisping still hates Hendo for making that his logo. Not for doing it mind you. For making it his gym logo. Hendo jokes about like "dude you're not even in the logo."
I remember ordering 100, that was the highlight.
H-Bomb.
Gotta appreciate it when the ref lifts the fallen fighters head up and drops it back on the canvas lol
I love listening to Rogan describe this. “We thought Arona was DEAD!”
Rogan be talking about the most mediocre fighters and making them sound like gods lmao
God I miss Pride
Punches to the back of the head = Illegal Slamming somebody on the back of their head intentionally = Legal I get that it is within the rules but MMA is a sport with made up rules in the first place so it's not like they couldn't just have both be against the rules if back of the head shots are supposed to be banned for safety reasons lol. Always struck me as a weird one.
This wouldn’t have happened if Arona let go. IK this is pride, but in the UFC I’m pretty sure this would be completely legal, as long the as the recipient was holding onto the slammer. Makes enough sense to me, imo.
Thats what happened to Rose too, you gotta let go of the submission even if it puts you in a terrible position because thats still better than getting dropped on your head.
The point is that the rules are made up so if you can't punch somebody in the back of the head because it's too dangerous, why would this be any different? It's not a question of whether it's allowed or not. It is as the rules currently are laid out.
The idea is you can’t defend punches to the back of your head. You can defend the slam by letting go or grabbing a leg
I think it's more about not being able to defend yourself from a triangle
But that's often not the case. It's usually a split-second decision before they even realize what is going on.
Holding onto to submission attempts is a risky strategy when your opponent is standing. Ortega vs Swanson comes to mind where Cub stayed standing and the opposite happened he couldn’t defend at all. Then there’s Namajunas vs Andrade where she wouldn’t let go of the Kimura and gets slammed on her neck. The whole sport is split second decisions if you think about it
It's easier to punch someone in the back of the head maybe
All rules are made up.
The issue is if rabbit punching was legal, fighters would be doing it in every fight.
One is a lot harder to do quickly in succession than the other, you have to be so god damn strong to do this, you can also just let go of the triangle
so iconic
This is why you hook the leg when they go to stand. You don’t get slammed, usually they fall over and you finish the triangle mounted.
As commenters above noted, Rampage stated that this incident was the last time that he allowed himself to became enraged in the ring. In his words, he called the adrenaline rush “unlimited strength.” Truthfully, probably referring to these factors plus old school ‘roid rage. I like Rampage because he’s always been pretty transparent about all of that.
God I miss prime Rampage. He's up there with Yoel and Ngannou as most intimidating fighters ever.
If that had been a street fight, that guy would have been killed, no exaggeration. Amazing finish for sure!
Pride fights were so beautiful!
nah, frank mir and nog
Pride Rampage has no equal in exciting matches.
Classic. Arona slam.
Crazy how good steroids are! amirite? :)
Damn almost killed him
Hammerfist all day. The hammerfist is by far the most dangerous
How WWE dudes take countless powerbombs like that and get up no problem but one slam like this knocks dudes into catatonia
Rampage is who got me originally watching UFC
Same. Pride always had so much more pageantry and the audience put any other promotion to shame. It took Rampage coming over to make me care about UFC. Rampage knocking out Liddell was such a moment for Pride fans, especially if you watched it at a bar in the US. I was howling my ass off. Prior to Rampage coming over, I had only watched the handful of UFC tournaments you could rent from blockbuster. UFC could learn a lot from Pride's presentation if they wanted to appeal to a larger audience. Probably won't happen until Dana finally murders his wife.
BJJ is fake
That head clash is what took out arona
pretty cool to see a legend like Rampage getting some appreciation around here. Dude fought: Wanderlei (4x), Shogun, Hendo, Arona, Sakuraba, Igor Vovchancyn, Chuck Liddell (2x), Chael Sonnen, King Mo, Fedor, that's a crazy resume.
Arona's head bounce off the mat meets Rampage's head with his feet off the ground was the impact. The slo-mo video when he hits Arona with that second punch when he was already dead gets me. Super necessary. Arona went on a terror after this fight until he met Shogun.
Everytime I see someone in that position I scream at the TV to SLAM HIM like rampage!
Watch the whole fight. I think Rampage was out a few mins before this, and his head knocked him out. Bro head butted him to death
I was on a flight with Rampage directly behind him. Mike Dolce boarded after us, rampage got up and into his face and I for sure thought I was about to witness a murder. They split, cops came on the plane and talked to them and everybody lived. Prior to this I was thinking rampage didn’t seem that big… he definitely seemed a lot bigger when he was about to kill Dolce. https://preview.redd.it/m7m77dyl7u7d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5a8913c446a251707f440eeda6ce291ea013a38e
Why was he mad at dolce?
Dolce was asked in an interview who was the hardest fighter to train. He told a story about finding candy bars hidden in Rampage’s bed. I guess that upset Rampage.
Rampage said this was the only fight he ever lost his temper in. Said he was trying to power bomb him through the mat.
GODDAMN!!!!
Yeah it’s a headbutt KO rather than from the slam itself
Early in his career, Rampage was a legit savage. His collision course with Vanderlei was legendary.
I guess he was tired, but if he would have done a big twist at the top then there might have been a different result. Maybe that wouldn't work
Question: you aren’t allowed to punch someone in the back of the head… why can you slam them onto the back of their head?
I’ve wondered why that doesn’t happen more often but I suppose the very top know how to handle that move.
That's why you always hook the leg..
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Batista Bombed his ass 😭
Yes
Pry should have let go of the triangle attempt, lol.
Shouldn’t this be banned? Aren’t hits to the back of the head not allowed? He basically did the same thing.
I don't think I've ever seen that clip in such high resolution.
Wow I just realized I never seen this in slowmo. Always thought it was just a slam but they def hit heads when he hit the ground. Forehead to chin too
You know Rampage’s son tried to fight him. Imagine seeing your dad do this to another man and you really think you have a chance. What a dunce.
Not ufc but the worst ko I've ever seen is in boxing with ray mercer vs tommy Morrison
Fundamentally altered the course of Arona’s career.
seriously... what IS the most brutal and damaging finishes in the history of the sport? off the top of my head: Hendo bomb vs Bisping + full body weight jump punch to the face Rakic with one of the cleanest ever headkicks vs Manuwa Chandler killing Tony Ngannou vs (make your pick) Jeremy Stephens breaking Emmett's face MVP knee vs Santos I can continue ofc
That was a headbutt KO right ?
Unintentional headbutt.
That headbutt came from his head bouncing of the ground and hitting rampage. Holy fuck
Illegal headbutt.
By Arona, yes. He bounced his head off the canvas into Rampage's head, cutting Rampage illegally. Note Ricardo has no cut.
“Rampage” Jackson
I fucking love the power bomb knock outs, but God are they brutal
GOATED shit
Real shit I wanna know Rampages deadlift PR
Rampage didn’t even lift. That’s just raw wrestling strength and rage.
Damn that shouldn't be allowed. He hit the back of his head isn't that dangerous af
I remember Rampage had mentioned that the BJJ peeps tried to have Pride ban the powerbomb after this!
I wonder what the guy on the bottom was thinking at the top 😂😂
What happened to the knocked out dude?
I know it's hard to tell because his shoes are already off, but he ded.
If that were pavement, he'd be deceased
Treated that dude like he was a flimsy UFC door
It’s always crazy to me to watch them focus on the fighter who won while the other guy is on the floor fighting for his life and the medical team is extremely concerned like you can feel his anxiety trying to get that mouthguard out
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Remind me again why this is in the UFC sub.
Brief look at your profile shows you post constantly and have heavily downvoted comments literally every day. Have you considered changing the way you are?
I hardly downvote. Just honestly curious why this is in the UFC sub
Also, I have not posted once, just like you.
Poor reading comprehension too? Incredible.
I'm not sure if the content has to be about fights in the UFC. But I guess you can argue that this falls under the UFC because the UFC owns pride. They bought it (the brand and all footage) a while back, so they couldn't make a comeback if someone else bought them.