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wise_nerd

"you're taking everything I worked for mf" -- Ariel Halwani to DC.


mur-diddly-urderer

Ariel should be proud DC learned from him so well


BeAsTFOo

Chump acting like Ariel did it first 🥴


KetamineTuna

I am confused by the clip. Is DC actually claiming Pereira would be able to beat those guys in a freestyle wrestling match?


LinchpinDYK

Obviously he's trolling just to get under islams skin


Physizist

Yeah idk why people think he’s serious. DC himself couldn’t medal in the olympics and he trained his entire life. When have we seen a brazilian wrestling champ? Also Alex really isn’t built for wrestling, he’s tall and lean vs while most wrestlers are stocky


OnePunnMan

Yes, with 2 years of focused wrestling training


OnePunnMan

Yes, he thinks Pereira can with 2 years of focused wrestling training


TheWeightPoet

DC says if Pereira trained exclusively olympic wrestling for 2 years he could become champion. Makhachev says he would still get soundly beaten by the top guys.


Select_Sleep_1293

Ariel is a scab


Distinct_Target_2277

You must work for dana


AggressiveCreme6758

Must be a Dana dick sucker. They probably think Fedor and Might Mouse suck or that Power Slap is the most watched "sport" in the world just cuz Daddy Dana said it


PostM8

Now we need a clip of Islam reacting to the clip of Alex reacting to the clip of Islam


AstroFlayer

Then Alex reacting to Islam reacting to Alex reacting to Islam


Square-Nerve9505

DC looking so small compared to these guys is crazy


dietdrpepper6000

Honestly had the opposite impression. Subtracting the extra body fat and accounting for the 8” difference in reach, his arms probably still have on the order of 50% more muscle volume than Alex’s, a true LHW, and this is him a few years removed from high level training. Insane build. DC was/is a fucking tank of a man


qqruz123

The guy has massive muscles. If he ate some vegetables he'd look jacked af


arkoangemeter

Vegetables over fried chicken and cake??? Gtfo


Mr_D93

I don’t know why this cracked me the fuck up 😂


DanDiCa_7

Don't forget Alex is cutting weight tho, he will look smaller


MyFifthLimb

He was a little bowling ball just recking some of the biggest fighters in the world


MrNopeNada

I had the exact opposite observation. Poatan looks like a schoolboy next to DC.


Cum-Gun-5000

I'd bang em both tbh


TheWeightPoet

Did you use to fuck guys like them in high school?


imneversingle

No, he doesn't. He's looks even bigger than Alex


Debakle

Y'all over here arguing about the 2nd and 3rd biggest guys in the video 😂


imneversingle

The things that matter lmao


arkoangemeter

Sure in frame but DC has more muscle mass than Alex and is far stronger.


StreetSmartsGaming

Who tf is that giant next to pereira? Nobody going to mention the size? Alex is a huge guy and this guy makes him look like a little kid.


Obama_prismIsntReal

Its plínio, his coach/translator. He appears in most of poatan's vids like this.


bpetersonlaw

Fun fact: Plinio fought, and lost to, Chris Daukaus


KatzDeli

And Rafael Natal.


skankhunt72573

The video of him in a Lamborghini in Australia is hilarious Genuinely don’t know how he fit in it


New-Peach4153

There was a vlog where they were rolling around in those huge Benz square vehicles, dude literally looks like he doesn't fit.


Power_Taint

G wagons?


Kalabula

Why does he look like he quite literally twice the size of everyone in this clip? Forced perspective?


Obama_prismIsntReal

He's a former heavyweight fighter who i doubt has been sticking to any sort of fitness plan since his retirement, so i'm guessing he's just thay big


I_AM_SCUBASTEVE

He also used to be super in shape when he was a fighter.


iWentRogue

That’s Thor from God of War Ragnarok


Tantle18

Plinio cruz. He was a fighter. https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/6834-plinio-cruz Yes that’s really him in the pic lol


RobNT

Hold the fuck up lmao no shot


Tantle18

Can tell he was a naturally fat guy and fighting was the only thing keeping him in shape. Once he lost focus and started losing he just let it all go


Qtips_

Hahahahaha nooo fucking way?? I believe it man, the amount of Pro soccer player looking like shit today is incredible.


JohnDoe2710

His coach/translator. Met him in-person he’s shorter than Alex, and overall a really nice guy


Aggravating_Day_3978

He is a bit shorter than alex I believe, just the angle and the way everyone is seated makes it seem different


10lbplant

Nah brother, look at the size of his forearms. Dude is wider and thicker than DC no diddy


dillanbs

No diddy 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂


MrNopeNada

Kind of odd when people say size and immediately think only of height. A 5 '10 215lb dude is "bigger" to me than a 6'1 185lb person.


lostinmississippi84

Yeah, the big guy is sitting straight up, and Alex has kinda slid down in his seat. When Alex leans forward, you can see they are close if Alex isn't taller.


JYuMo

Former Cage Fury heavyweight champ, Plinio Cruz


stabsthedrama

Iirc he actually lost a good amount of size the past couple of years. I saw him on a few teams in the octagon over the years. Fuckin strong man competition tier size on that fuckin dude, and like I said Im pretty sure he actually got a bit smaller in the last year or so. 


crusader104

Dude used to fight at middleweight lol (if I’m remembering correctly, could be different weight or member of Alex’s crew tho)


KimKongtheIllest

He's not making mw at any point in the last 5-10 years min.


crusader104

Correct, Plinio Cruz’ last known middleweight fight was in 2012 For anyone wondering what he looked like: https://preview.redd.it/uucdf6i7m59d1.jpeg?width=286&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=544afd05deb45daf8e171eaffc31f0fa1dc645c6


sushisection

bro looks like him and DC did a fusion dance


snguyen_93

Bro’s going through his own Majin Buu transformation.


DoctorPaulGregory

He might be to heavy for HW.


milksteakofcourse

That dude is a monster


Competitive-Mix6656

That's Daniel Cormier.


JustCallMeAttlaz

it's his translator, he is big but alex is way taller. you can see it in the latest sparring video on his youtube.


MyFifthLimb

Lore accurate Thor and Baldur


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I’m a huge Alex fan. Even I’ll admit, he hasn’t been tested on the ground. I really wanna see Ankalaev vs Poatan. If he beats him soundly, then there is no denying putting him in the conversation as one of the GOATs of combat sports. Some people are just built different. I think Alex is built different.


Die-rector

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Classic_Technology96

What’s so funny about that to me is that he was asked any FIGHTER he think he’d have a chance at, and he chose a champion. He coulda said CJ Vergara by way of sitting on him but no, he chose a 205 champion.


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MyFifthLimb

Peak male form


ACL_Tearer

DC Bod


Leather-Ball864

Average r/ufc commentator


BodybuildingNerd

Ankalaev has 0 submissions on his UFC career…


Humble_Effective3964

I'm pretty sure people see others talking about his grappling and assume Ank is submitting people every other fight lol


BodybuildingNerd

It feels like 98% of people mentioning Ank as the one to potentially beat Alex, all know nothing of Ank’s ground game, lol.


JrueBall

He doesn't need a finish on the ground to get a win. If his wrestling is way better than Alex's he can hold him down for 5 rounds and get the boring win.


BodybuildingNerd

Technically true. I just do not see it happening. Ank’s recent performances between Jan and Johnny (2x) have been questionable in terms of fight IQ.


JrueBall

I agree. I just understand why people might think that Alex beating Ankalaev proves more than him beating anyone else in the light heavyweight division. It is a very striking heavy division and Ankalaev seems to be the only grappler there. Even heavyweight which is known for striking has more grapplers at the top of the division with Jon Jones, Curtis Blades and Jailton Almeida.


BodybuildingNerd

Fair enough. Glad we could agree on a logical and reasonable topic, unlike 90% of this Sub, lol.


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Chicomehdi1

Jesus dude


BodybuildingNerd

The hell?… I don’t hate Ank at all. I don’t even know the guy.


haldir87

What was the issue with Walker? He should have not kneed him but doubting his fight IQ based on thwt is a strech. Also in the Jan fight he eventually switch to wrestling starting from round 3 and dominated Jan. Unless he does a Jamal Hill his IQ is high


the_c_is_silent

I think it's reverse psychology. They know it doesn't really prove he's some ground god, but building Ank up makes it seem like Poatan is.


BodybuildingNerd

I would not give Redditors in the u/UFC subreddit that kind of mental praise.


After_Tax6994

He wrestles more then anyone Alex has ever fought since his debut


Cemihard

He also always strikes, wasn’t until Jan destroyed his legs and could’ve gotten a tko that Ankalaev started wrestling. Guys a striker, yes he can wrestle but it’s not his style.


Inkfu

Having a beard adds at least 3 professional submissions to your score. It’s normal knowledge brotha.


BodybuildingNerd

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sheepher

And last second tap


SillyMilly25

Yeah but don't forget about control, Ank can control him on the ground Ank is a beast though, he's definitely throwing hands with Alex.


takeittothetop1

Ankalaev's ground game is overrated. He has zero submission wins and his only loss is a submission. He has good takedowns, clinch work, pressure against the cage, and stuff, but he's primarily a striker. Ankalaev is not a 205 version of Islam or Khabib.


daKingKhan

Grappling wise, agreed. But his wrestling is good, but only when he chooses to actually use it.


takeittothetop1

He has solid Daegestani wrestling, but he doesn't have elite fight IQ.


[deleted]

It’s more about the threat of the takedown and the ability to keep you there. I’m not saying he’s an elite level grappler like Khabib. I’m saying he’s the best we got at 205 to test him.


Rexum420

Eh. Jan tested his grappling. And while Jan is no ankaliev, Alex did preform significantly better in grappling against Jan than izzy did.


IlIlllIIlIIlI

You think Ankalaev is the name Poatan needs to be in the goat talk??? Crazy


[deleted]

It’s not about the name. It’s about the grappling. He hasn’t faced one grappler.


Classic_Technology96

Ankalaev is no grappler.


Turbulent-Echo8561

He's pretty much the closest to a grappler for a high ranked fighter at LHW tho 😄 and he almost won the belt with it by losing 2 rounds on the feet to Jan and then laying on top of him for the rest of the fight without doing absolutely nothing, getting him a draw.


Ecstatic-Inevitable

He needs to show wrestling defense to be considered is what I think they're saying


Boneless_hamburger

yeah pretty clear and pretty obvious they were saying he needs to be tested vs a wrestler to be considered.


IlIlllIIlIIlI

Fair. I think he should qualify for the HOF already atleast.


Mma375

We are so far past that conversation haha


WatchYourStepKid

He’s HOF for sure but GOAT of combat sports is a high bar, even just to be in the conversation


Itaney

Beating Ankalaev definitely doesn’t put him in the convo with the GOATs of combat sports. It will take several more wins for that.


jfsoaig345

Alex really came into the UFC at the perfect time when both MW and LHW were and still are filled to the brim with strikers. The best grappler he has faced is Jan, who isn’t too shabby on the ground himself - we did see what he did to Izzy after all.


multiplesof3

Ahhh I dunno. Izzy knocked him out and had him very close to knocked out in their first fight. He’s not invincible


TrojanHorse9k

Ankalaev will wipe the floor with Alex


Typical_Hour_6056

Ankalaev insisting to fight in the UAE is a bad look regarding his confidence. I was (and still am) convinced he is the man to beat Alex at LHW. But he himself doesn't seem to sure.


MA-JA-HO

The thing is , Ankalaev likes to keep on the feet, he did against Walker or Yan ( for a while until he had to take him down) despite them both being very dangerous on the feet ( Walker maybe not) . If he does that against Pereira, he gets slept


BodybuildingNerd

I personally do not see anyone currently beating Alex @ LHW. Everyone keeps saying Ank due to his wrestling but Ank has literally 0 submissions on his record.


ReformedishBaptist

As if submissions are the only thing that matter in the ground lol


BodybuildingNerd

Like how he wrestled and TKO’d Jan via GnP? Oh wait…


ReformedishBaptist

Finishes aren’t the only thing that matter in mixed martial arts. He literally got a 10-8 round in round 5 vs Jan, horrible example.


BodybuildingNerd

Ank should have done that from the start instead of the end of the 5th in a title fight. He only began wrestling because his legs were chewed up. He is the only person to blame with his recent poor performances. Do not even get me started on the (two) Johnny Walker fighters and all the intentional fouls.


DerpyDagon

Wrestling's more than just a setup for submissions. Control time in of itself can win a fight and you can also tko people on the ground.


OkMarionberry5723

The threat of takedown also makes strikers gun shy, not letting them perform at their fullest potential


BodybuildingNerd

Ank waited until his legs had been kicked to death to “wrestle” against Jan at the end of the 5th round. Negative IQ fight for Ank. He handled the draw result even worse and then he said wanted Alex in Abu Dhabi 8 months later. Ank still ain’t the one, lol.


haldir87

Did you even watch the fight??


BodybuildingNerd

Sure did. Did you actually read my comment before replying? Doesn’t seem like it, Pal.


DerpyDagon

Nowhere in my comment did I talk about Ankalaev, only about your factual misunderstanding of the role of wrestling in an MMA fight. Your attempt to divert to Ankalaev's skills clearly shows that you're aware that you were wrong, as you're again in this comment. If Ankalaev only started to wrestle "at the end of the 5th round", how did he rack up 4 minutes and 50 seconds of control time in the 5th and over 11 minutes overall? Why did Jan land a total of 0 significant strikes in the 5th? Ankalaev shot in the first seconds of that round and took Jan down, you're either lying, blind or need to rewatch the fight. Why the quotation marks when you bring up Magomed's wrestling? In the championship rounds Blachowicz landed a total of a single significant strike, while Magomed racked up 28. The total strikes tell a similar story, 24 to 109 for Ankalaev. 9 minutes and 22 seconds of control time. You know what actually happened at the end of the 5th? Jan almost got finished with ground and pound. The Pereira callout also had nothing to do with the Blachowicz draw, a fight 23/25 media members scored for Ankalaev. decisionbot Ankalaev vs Blachowicz


DerpyDagon

Decisionbot doesn't seem to work on r/ufc: [**MAGOMED ANKALAEV drew with JAN BLACHOWICZ** (*split draw*)](http://mmadecisions.com/decision/13678/fight) UFC 282: Blachowicz vs. Ankalaev — December 10, 2022 **MEDIA MEMBER SCORES** * **1/25** people scored it **49-45 Ankalaev**. * **3/25** people scored it **49-46 Ankalaev**. * **5/25** people scored it **48-46 Ankalaev**. * **14/25** people scored it **48-47 Ankalaev**. * **2/25** people scored it **47-48 Blachowicz**. Avg. media score: **48.1-46.7 Ankalaev** (*high certainty\^*[*\[1\]*](https://redd.it/9p4xc7)).


haldir87

He will not convince these guys against all the hate. Ankalaev was robbed big time there. Even Jan acknowledged that Ankalaev won the fight. Twice actually. But since people are irrational we are getting the fight vs a guy who got KOed by pereira 7 month ago.


haldir87

Did you even watch the fight??


BodybuildingNerd

Stop spamming the same reply under all my comments. Either produce actual evidence of something occurring or get outta my notifications.


haldir87

Evidence for you never watched the fight? You just provided it yourself


BodybuildingNerd

You’re a troll and a bad one at that. Have good night.


Rexum420

Actually, control time only comes into consideration when striking and grappling are considered completely even. "Judges look at the immediate and cumulative impact of legal blows, submission attempts, and takedowns. Control time comes into play only when effective striking and grappling are equal between the fighters. In such cases, judges consider control time to determine who had the advantage in terms of controlling the fight’s tempo, location, and position12. So, while control time is important, it’s secondary to the more impactful actions in a fight." That's from the unified rules.


raygarraty47

Everyone says that but Ank never fk wrestles he insist on standing up against guy he could smother, he will do the same against Pereira given the chance just to get ko'd


Typical_Hour_6056

This is true, especially looking at the Blachowicz fight. As soon as he put his foot on the gas and went all out on wrestling pressure, he handily took round 4 and DOMINATED round 5. Before that he tried to strike with Jan for no reason, did fairly well but got his legs almost smashed in. It seemed so unnecessary. Why take the risk?


Valuable-Purpose-

Dc was delusional in that interview he said let potan train 2 years and he would be an Olympic wrestling champion that was stupid by him


JustCallMeAttlaz

Probably messing with Islam. Man loves interviewing him he's always laughing


PiccoloTiccolo

Anyone interviewing islam knows to set him up to get the line "brother who say this"


iSheepTouch

The most genuine thing DC does in his UFC interviews is troll the fuck out of his Dagestani bros.


JustCallMeAttlaz

Most dagestanis are unintentionally hilarious, specially islam


Rummenigge

i am not a big fan of them dagestani boys but come on, islam is intentionally funny and lot of times


Mo_damo

Keep him 2 year and forget


JustCallMeAttlaz

I mean yeah maybe, he just seems so serious on his responses, it's so funny. If he's doing it purposefully that's just genius


MA-JA-HO

Daniel of all people knows what it takes to become an Olympian at his weight , he’s definitely just messing.


Ok_Lawyer3080

Yes an actual Olympic wrestling champion is delusional when it comes to the requirements of that achievement. He totally wasn't being sarcastic with his friend Islam who takes everything too seriously.


Rage_Your_Dream

He was clearly baiting him man, not everything is serious


Leather-Ball864

I'm pretty sure an Olympic level wrestler knows better than some r/ufc Redditors on what it takes so I'll trust his judgement on this one


basedjak_no228

Pretty sure DC was just fucking with Islam and didn’t actually believe it himself


Leather-Ball864

Yeah I know I was just joking around too


Ill_Source_6908

Islam was right tho ain’t no way Alex would be an Olympic gold medalist in wrestling within 2 years. DC was talking straight nonsense 😂😂


Sinister_dark

Ankalaev is the one not fighting Alex. Alex even agreed to fight him. I hope Alex never fights him in Abu Dhabi. If he wants the belt fight outside Abu Dhabi or keep fighting contenders.


boomgottem

Right! Even if it’s a great fight and Alex loses then we have another fighter with a belt who won’t be able to be active.


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Please Lord get a proper translator for Poatan. This fat guy seems like a good dude and friend of Poatan, but his translating is trash


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basedjak_no228

I don’t speak Portuguese so I have no idea myself, but the vibe I get off Reddit is that he’s a bit more of a shit talker in Portuguese but his translations are what make him sound uncontroversial and straightforward. Could be completely wrong though idk 


lucasbin_

nah I don't think so. He does miss some cool stuff that alex says every now and then but the tone is pretty much the same. that's my two cents anyway source: am brazilian


lllchisenlll

Ankalaev has 1 win in almost 2 years... Most over hyped fighter in the UFC rn


Rage_Your_Dream

Mother of cherry picked stats. Man hasn't lost a fight since 2018 and actually was pretty active untill 2023.


SERB_BEAST

He is legitmately a skilled fighter, but his fans that think he was robbed against Jan or that he is currently getting robbed of a title shot, or that Pereira is ducking him, are delusional. Pereira is the scariest fighter in the UFC and he's fighting actually dangerous fighters. Lol some fans think a fighter like that is scared of a wrestler. Nobody is scared of wrestlers. Least intimidating style. Pereira clearly stated that he's interested in that fight. It's Ankalaev who is preventing that fight from happening. Not Pereira.


Fckyouprecisely

A thing people need to understand is most fighters aren't scared of any human being. They may be hesitant or ducking cause of monetary reasons or shi but no one in UFC is scared to fight anyone in the UFC, every single one of them is a killer.


Joneleth22

It's not about being scared of getting into a fight, it's about being scared of a loss and hurting your reputation.


takeittothetop1

I will laugh if Poatan defends against Anakalev's wrestling and KOs him.


ReasonableEscape777

🗿


Humble_Effective3964

aka u slow


FlinchMaster

DC out here instigating drama for views, lol. It's totally possible that Pereira ends up stuffing Ankalaev's takedown attempts and gets back up quickly even after getting taken down. The bit about the Olympics is straight rage-bait.


doctonghfas

Dumbest fake drama. Obviously none of them believe this. What’s next, claiming he could take gold in olympic taekwando? Or i know, how about fencing? That’s sort of like fighting, right?


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Professional at stirring up drama and I'm all for it 😂


YeaBrahhh

No usually an MMA shirt person but might need both of those Poatan shirts


MyRecklessHabit

DC is the man. Also can make a serious bitch face. Sad to see.


realMarbengie

Danial is a good dude. And he has mich respect for Alex.. like Alex for him.. Daniel is listening


PunkNDisorderlyGamer

Now we know why DC kept a straight face, so he can be unbiased while he’s instigating.


PunkNDisorderlyGamer

DC the type to train somebody to wrestle as soon as he takes a Dagestani down once. DC: you see I beat you. Dagestani: no you not beat me DC: he took you down, I trained him, I beat you.


bdizzle805

DC trying to start beef just so he can have clicks on his youtube


captaincook14

Lol love DC stirring the pot since he’s so close with these dudes. Haters livid when Ariel does this though.


AkaneTakamaki

I love Alex but Islam is 100% spot on here. Poatan can probably get to a Jedrzejczyk level of having exceptional takedown defence for MMA but in a straight up wrestling match there is no way he's getting to the elite level at his age. Dude got controlled by Izzy! DC is a menace trolling like that 😆


Yusirnaime

DC is such a rat. Sneaks out a couple of comments from Islam while deep-tongue-licks Poatans ass then quickly shows Poatan, "uh uh look look Poatan, look what I think about your ass"


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Yusirnaime

lol why would I travel overseas to tell a stranger that he did a rat move? BTW do you condone rat moves since you ask me to tell it to his face? DC is a famous person and I have every right to criticise him when he does a rat move. He can probably wrestle me yes but why would you want me to fight him with your indication? Are you a little DC fan boy that doesn't like when anyone talks back to your idol? Are you playing the DC vs. Jones game? Cause I'm not, I just call out rat moves when I see one.


oh_three_dum_dum

He’d probably shut it down without even thinking about getting physical. Everything I’ve ever seen of DC getting heated with someone he just talks them down or gives a stern warning to them that he doesn’t like what they’re doing. Like Phil Hawes when he started mouthing off to him in the ring post-fight. He talked him down like a disappointed dad.


Blackelvis2000

CRRRAAAZZZYYY TALK!¡


ConversationTop9401

DC is a menace


Tyronetyroned

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Liam2349

I hope Alex just flat out refuses to fight him in the UAE or wherever Ankalaev wants the fight, after how they gifted Ankalaev a NC after a clear foul that should have been a DQ. Let Ankalaev fight in the states.


SALTYxNUTZ12

Cool so Ankalaev beats Poatan, then what?


MichealScarn92

'Youve got to accept that im different' is a cold line by you.


moonwoolf35

"I'm built different."-🗿 Put that on a shirt Alex


Greedo_is_God

Alright this is getting out of hand. If this was any other fighter, even one with MORE experience and talent in wrestling than Alex you guys would crucify him for being delusional.


sAmMySpEkToR

I know Magomed’s a good grappler, but people constantly seem to forget that he prefers to stand and bang even when it doesn’t really make sense.


NapoleonZiggyPiggy

I like how Alex has his own Paul Heyman guy.


jaketyler932

islam and khabib are too honest for the sport


mchief101

Gotta love pereira man


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Real-Human-Bean-

Two dumbasses and plinio


I-Sell-Wolf-Tickets

Cormier is a fat fuck trying to instigate petty shit out of nothing. He should not be one of the voices of the sport


Academic_Solid85

Alex’s translator is fat AF he’s make DC seem in shape 😂.