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huntergreeny

This is a rare moment of honesty. He hasn't changed at all from his school report 40 years ago: “Boris really has adopted a disgracefully cavalier attitude. . . Boris sometimes seems affronted when criticised for what amounts to a gross failure of responsibility... I think he honestly believes that it is churlish of us not to regard him as an exception, one who should be free of the network of obligation which binds everyone else.”


brazilish

Why would he change? It’s only got him to Prime Minister


[deleted]

Yeah, it's a real indictment of how bad our political systen is that someone who has been any combination of lazy, incompetent or corrupt (or all three simultaneously) in every job he's had - but has ambition, a massive ego and connections - can keep falling up until he hits the top.


ObstructiveAgreement

It's not just the political system, this is the entire social system writ large. These types of psychopaths end up as the CEOs of the big companies, they're the ones betting on the markets in finance, etc. For some bizarre reason society as a whole has put value on lying, deceitful narcissists from rich backgrounds over others.


cultish_alibi

He deserves it though, he went to Eton.


Panda_hat

“Honestly believes that it is churlish of us not to regard him as an exception, one who should be free of the network of obligation which binds everyone else”. This is such a good bit of writing, it’s bang on the money and has really stuck with me ever since I first read it.


Erestyn

I often wonder what that teacher would say of his political actions these days. Short of "I told you, and you did nothing."


TheAlleyCat9013

This is utterly insane to read. Every single one of us goes through a character transformation as we grow older, literally only a sociopath cannot change in 40 years.


GeraldJimes_

As I said the other day, people like to wheel out the school report quote because it's well written and obviously incredibly accurate for what his life was going to look like... But the sad truth is that life has basically proven Boris to be right. He has done whatever he wanted free of obligation and responsibility and seems to have suffered little or no consequence for any of his actions. He's bent and broken rules and laws without a comeuppance, let alone unspoken, informal or traditional agreements of civil society.


huntergreeny

Yes, well said. It's astonishing how he has failed upwards again and again. All these lies, scandals and the sheer incompetence over decades. It should have made him unemployable only led to more power and fame. Privileged public schoolboys do what they like in this finished country. Even if his time as PM is nearly over, he'll probably remain an MP, and will certainly make a fortune giving speeches as a former PM.


Kennyfloof

Oh my goodness, this is golden!! Is it published somewhere?! Or are you joking?!


bucky_ballers

Yeah if you Google Boris Eton school report or similar you’ll find it (and more besides)


DassinJoe

> he said if he had to abandon Ukraine because it became too difficult or the costs were too great, he would quit. This is both hilarious and deeply cynical on his part.


jazza130

I am so angry that he has tied together him being prime minister and eroding this country further to abandoning Ukraine to genocide and war crimes. My expectations were on the floor anyway and then he essentially said you have to choose between wanting Ukraine to succeed and actual leadership for this country AND 30% of Tiverton still voted Conservative, what the actual fuck


OldPulteney

Farmers mate, never vote anything but blue


Kennyfloof

Someone needs to send all the farmers a copy of the trade deal with Australia... That'll turn them!


Tams82

I literally just listened to a Guardian podcast from earlier in the week with a farmer in Tiverton who said he wasn't going to vote Conservative. And in my constituency, a fair few farmers vote Lib Dem.


OldPulteney

You spurred me to check my assumption and apparently I was wrong https://www.fwi.co.uk/news/farm-policy/farmer-support-for-conservatives-on-the-slide-fw-survey-reveals


benting365

Which is why i never buy that milk which costs 20p more.


Asconodo

There aren't that many farmers anymore.....


E420CDI

\*anything but moo


The50thwarrior

I love that the Tories are painting him as a wartime leader (someone else's war) and that this is his response. So very Johnson.


s0men1ckname

So he cares about Ukraine more than his own country


ScoobyDoNot

Rubbish, he only cares about himself, if he can use Ukraine to that end he will.


s0men1ckname

Of course he does, I'm talking about his official reasoning.


DassinJoe

Well this is it really. He didn’t say anything about “failing to fulfill his manifesto pledges” being a reason to resign. He’s using a war in another country, which never featured on any manifesto pledge, as the sole criterion for his success or failure. It’s ludicrous.


Zabkian

I think this plays to his Churchill fetish, that he is somehow the Churchill to Putin's Hitler


eeeking

He's saying he *would* abandon Ukraine if it got too difficult.


[deleted]

This is music to Labour's ears. The ship is going down, everyone on board knows it but the captain insists he is 'getting on with the job'. If the tories aren't careful he is going to do some damage to their brand that could take ten years to undo.


[deleted]

He’s done it.


[deleted]

“There’s the criticism that matters and the criticism that doesn’t.” So presumably (1) party donors, (2) everybody else. And (1) not yet an issue it would seem.


Noatz

I have to think he's done some damage there too; not every donor - though many are - for the conservatives will be some fat psychopath in a pinstripe suit smoking a cigar that only sees the poor as grist in the mill of capitalism. I wouldn't be surprised if Johnson has caused some who believe in actual conservatism to withdraw their support already.


[deleted]

Agreed, he’s not remotely conservative really.


Daedeluss

Exactly. He's Trump-lite and the Tories are channeling the GOP. Neither are as batshit insane as the real Trump/GOP but there are echoes of both.


americagiveup

Thankfully it doesn’t extend to the base in the same way the GOP does


tomoldbury

Brexit was as dangerous as it got I think. There’s no unifying factor like that any more


smashedguitar

Some are comedically unhinged though e.g. dinosaur woman from Question Time


tiorzol

He's done nothing if the media doesn't say he has.


[deleted]

We are long past that. They have screamed their head off but their reach is fading.


InstantIdealism

“I am going down with this ship” “But sir, you are the reason the ship is sinking” “Shut up. Also; sink the life boats. Nobody is getting off”


brickne3

This reminds me of a post yesterday from an actual book about the Titanic that blamed the sinking on a "steering error".


Panda_hat

We can only hope. After the last 12 years of abject failure I don’t know how anyone could ever vote for these people ever again.


_ScubaDiver

And yet 30% of the 27,500 voters in Wakefield did, which blows my mind. Still, the Tories are a sinking ship and that makes me happy.


brickne3

I live in Wakefield, unfortunately it doesn't blow my mind. I'm very happy with the margin we pulled off though. My biggest question at the moment is why did Kier have to come up at the crack of 9 am when everyone had been up until 4. Poor Simon didn't even get a few winks. Was afternoon really not possible Sir Kier?!


StarksPond

(Gestures towards America)


brickne3

Am American, live in Wakefield. The Trump years were horrible and Brexit disproportionately affected my life. It's a tough call which issue is worse I think, which is sad on both counts. Roe v. Wade obviously brings new horror to the American table, but so does Rwanda to the Brexit buffet.


kojak488

My wife's nan recently said to me that I should be conservative because I'm self-employed. I was dumbfounded. Not that any response would get through to her. Always a bit sad when they start slagging off immigrants too with me, an American ex-pat, right there. I'm one of the only immigrants they know, but I have the right skin colour. Fucking racists.


chaoticmessiah

Yeah, my Jamaican neighbour's in her 80s and votes Tory because she's anti-immigration. Weird combination, considering.


brickne3

I was told shortly before the referendum by my partner's school friend's partner that I (American) should be upset the Romanians were "taking my spot". I literally lived in Bucharest at the time. And had also just listened to him detailing how he and his crew had stolen a bunch of tools from the French company they were working for "because the Germans are hiring us next week".


CrocPB

Okay, not okay_familyguy.jpg


MrPloppyHead

The tories can quite easily win the next election. They have lots of money (albeit a lot of it Russian in origin!) they have the press and there are a lot of thick people in the uk that are easily manipulated. With older people making more of an effort to vote than the young ( please vote in the next election ) this also impacts it.


mrgadd4

and yet


Mathyoujames

They are already there lmao I'd love to hear how conservatives plan on winning over the working under 40s over the next 10-20 years as their grey base dies out. Everyone is getting poorer, nobody has any capital to conserve so where are the votes going to come from?


Belgeirn

> If the tories aren't careful he is going to do some damage to their brand that could take ten years to undo. They are already setting it up, painting boris and not being a proper tory so that when they remove him they can say they "took back control" of the party and then everyone who voted before boris will vote again


ElliotWalker5

Same with the SNP, every day he’s in office the case for independence gets stronger


Sufficient-Curve5697

It's like a captain saying their progressing forward when the ship is nosediving to the bottom of the sea.


brickne3

Somebody yesterday found an actual book on the Titanic that blamed the collision with the iceberg on a "steering error". I imagine the Tories will be using that excuse right quick.


1191100

Let’s hope so.


Nehphets

Has the past 12 years not already done so?


KaiBarnard

>damage to their brand that could take ten years to undo. Like the Con-dem alliance sunk the lib dems for near a generation and STILL rankles people - or the older voters (before my time so can't comment) hold some hate still for Labour and the 'winter' Things like this can sour voters for decades, and the longer the posion seeps in the worse the damage, I do wonder if the people asking if the no confidence vote was pushed now by loyalists to get it done pre by-election were not right, as since then he's been a little more free and toxic thinking he now has a free run


Say10sadvocate

Fingers fucking crossed!! The last time the Tories got fucked off for a decade or so, were the last time this country felt "great."


Roy-Olu

Wouldn’t that be right though? They are exposing themselves for what they truly are. The ‘game’s up’!


[deleted]

If? Ten years?


pidderz

Let’s hope


PenguinPetesLostBod

>And Mr Johnson said that voters were "fed up of the conversation being about me". He was just 4 words away from seeming self aware.


Sigurn

>But speaking on Radio 4's Today programme he said he had to distinguish between "criticism that matters and what doesn't". Still waiting to see what criticism he thinks matters, because he hasn't given a toss about any so far.


Sufficient-Curve5697

Criticism from his donors, that's the only criticism that matters to him, Nadine Dorries admitted as much. Trouble is, the more he's in trouble the more he will give his donors to keep them on side, and the country will pay for it all.


abject_testament_

Not surprising coming from a 58-year-old Upper Sixth Former


[deleted]

Now now, that's unfair to most sixth formers who worry and have doubts and work at exams. Bojos more of a year 9 student, aware of the oncoming storm but with their head in the sands


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calza13

r/rareinsults


BpjuRCXyiga7Wy9q

In fairness, nobheads have fairly shallow psyches.


[deleted]

Narcissist in his case.


BpjuRCXyiga7Wy9q

Reminds me of these words from former speaker Bercow: >He is a narcissist, he doesn’t do the detail, he’s ritually dishonest—having a nodding acquaintance with the truth at best only in a leap year.


MoEmwazi

Game recognises game


BpjuRCXyiga7Wy9q

Order!


[deleted]

Spot on.


Lord_Gibbons

We fucking know, that's the problem!


[deleted]

Always was psychologically unfit to govern, always will be.


RedofPaw

Tory voters are not going to like this. For years now they have lived with a lying liar who has lied to them and yime and again they have returned the same conclusion : they fucking love it. They LOVE being lied to. So this brief monent of honesty will I am sure upset them. However the masochists they are, they will go back for more. Lie to me daddy, they will plead. Tell me again how well brexit is going and how we're world leading in something.


SorcerousSinner

"..I will remain the selfish sociopath I have always been. It has served me well. Onwards!"


[deleted]

Fwah!


mullac53

'I'm not going to stop being a scumbag, make your peace with it and don't forget, vote Tory!'


highlandpooch

Nothing else has convinced him to stop being a lying self serving country wrecker - why would this?


britolaf

No kidding. To change you need the ability to introspect, identify your issues and work on it.


RobertJ93

> But Mr Johnson was questioned about how he had not resigned over misleading the House of Commons, breaking the law for the Covid fine, or losing the support of 41% of his MPs in the confidence vote. > "Let's look at this in a more cheery way, if that's possible" he said. "Actually, what's happened is that I've got a renewed mandate from my colleagues, and I'm going to continue to deliver” Change the record mate. I cannot wait until I don’t have to hear him blathering on about ‘delivering’ anymore. It’s exhausting.


chaoticmessiah

Even with the Royal Mail being gutted by this government, they're still managing to deliver more than Boris ever has.


Marxandmarzipan

Who would have believed him if he said otherwise?


himalayangoat

I think even now he genuinely believes that all the abhorent shit he's done hasn't been a factor in these defeats and in the general decline of Tory popularity. I just wish he'd throw his toys out of the pram and call an election before too many people forget.


_Born_To_Be_Mild_

He thinks it's the media's fault for reporting it.


WynterRayne

>Mr Johnson said voters were "fed up with [...] me" and wanted to focus instead on the cost of living, the economy and "[...] violence and aggression" in Ukraine. We can talk about how Boarish is tanking the economy, rocketing the cost of living and sending Ukrainians to Rwanda? Is he sure he wants that? Because... [*shrug*] OK watch this space


Jongee58

He displays the same psychopathy that Trump does, an inability to accept criticism and defeat…which is the same of any narcissistic sociopath…


chaoticmessiah

Americans wonder "what if we had another Trump but smarter?". Well, we have him running our country.


Jongee58

If you had a smarter Trump, you would be in an authoritarian dictatorship, where the rule of law no longer exists, apart from the law the dictator wants in order to further his agenda. Surrounded by yes men who would do whatever to keep him in power...


Pro4TLZZ

Johnson is doing a great job of getting the conservative party further down the trash can


Jay_CD

So the captain of the Torytanic insists that he won't change course even though the iceberg is getting closer and closer... Yep, that's got to end well for the Tories.


brickne3

In the Titanic subreddit somebody yesterday posted a pic from an actual book about the Titanic that stated it was due to a "steering error". I imagine some Tories were taking notes.


TVPaulD

Oh look, Tory MPs who insisted he should stay in place because he would “change” and had “learned his lesson,” it turns out he’s not changed, never will and the only thing he’s “learned” is that you idiots will let him get away with *anything*. But I’m sure it’s fine, it’s not like that’s how despots get started or anything. If only there had been literally millions of people who knew better and could have warned you. Oh, right.


nyderscosh

Would that it were so simple


Kingtoke1

Im not the problem. Its the voters who are wrong


[deleted]

Awwwww. Don't worry Borisy Worrisy, you just keep being YOU my darling criminal-wiminal-coochee-coo. We all know you were born an odourous self appreciative narcissistic trout and you'll stay that way until those same very own, set in stone, psychological traits bring about your end. Chin up my little snowflake, keep on fucking up... Oh... and remember! YOU and YOUR career are so much more important than the lives of those poor idiots who got conned into putting you where you are.


kuwi58

He said he will listen to the people...well they are saying go!


[deleted]

First honest thing he's said


Empty_Allocution

This is actually glorious. The party has rotten itself dead. Let's just hope it lasts.


Nyushi

Labour headquarters are busting out the bubbly at this news.


brickne3

I'm not sure how much bubbly they drink if Sir Kier could get to Wakefield at 9 am the day after the by-election. The rest of us were up til 4 and I don't think poor Simon Lightwood got any sleep before he had to be paraded around... Tell us you didn't watch the returns without telling us you didn't watch the returns Kier.


Graglin

I'm not sure he would undergo psychological transformation if he was sentenced to 10 years in prison.


[deleted]

He's gonna need a really big fridge to ride this one out in.


Roy-Olu

Anyone who votes for that Party has lost all self respect. Much like the Prime Minister!


AxiomShell

'Tis but a scratch.


harrapino

Boris is the captain of a ship that self identifies as submarine.


chaoticmessiah

Boris is fucking the dog but who is holding its head?


BasedSweet

The positive of Boris Johnson in charge is that in the long term he's going to drag the Conservative party to its doom with him, like a metastatic tumour.


KangarooNo

Anything but quit...


skelly890

On mobile and can’t find the link, but the actual interview is hilariously bad. Listened to it with sick fascination. Started shouting at the radio as he dodged and weaved, but ended up laughing as he dug himself deeper and deeper. Well worth digging out.


taboo__time

They tried to make me go to Rehab But I said no, no, no


pianoandrun

Gosh he’s ugly. So weird, him and his sister look so alike, but when I see him I think he looks like a woman and I see her and think she looks like a man


WynterRayne

A woman? I think he looks like a pig. This is why I call him Boarish. And Porcine Prince. He doesn't help himself by telling porkies and talking about assault'n Peppa, but those aren't the reason. It's purely about the interesting way in which his face has degenerated in the last few years to strongly resemble an actual hog You're right about Jo though. She does have rather masculine features. The short hair probably emphasises it, though.


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pianoandrun

Yes I was thinking of Rachel


[deleted]

No, because you already did when you got covid and handed the keys to Carrie.


AllRedLine

Oh. That's a shame.


Constanthobby

Tories wanting Boris to change, covered in eggs


Caridor

Well, this shouldn't come as a shock. Every time he's confronted with failure, he lists a bunch of partial successes which still add up to failure and then doesn't change a thing.


solidcordon

How about one simple test for psychopathy? I don't expect a transformation but I would like to know how psychopathic our glorious leader is.


Say10sadvocate

Imagine being someone that voted for him. Geeeez


[deleted]

Honestly thought this was some satirical take...


CarryThe2

I am incapable of reflection or growth.


HerpDerpSquadron

At this point the man could undergo a lobotomy and still trot out the same bullshit tropes of "getting on with the job" and "delivering on the people's priorities".


hoodha

I couldn’t help but laugh when I saw Johnson has claimed all the talk about him is driving the people nuts. Talk about projection, it’s clearly driving him nuts. This man will never resign. Every day that passes and he’s still in control of our country is another day of incompetent ideological maniacs tearing it apart. If the Conservatives want to have any sort of chance in the next election they had better throw him out; Quickly and swiftly, next week. They may erroneously believe that a change of leadership will cost them the election. What they have failed to see is that if this keeps up they won’t have a party left and will be sitting in the opposition for a few generation.


jmabbz

Public: You're a liar and you can't be trusted Boris: I'll never change! Tory's: let's keep going


captainbeastfeast

''Yes I am a malignant narcissist. I'm afraid that there is nothing you can do about it chaps." Did you have a nice holiday Boris? Break a leg.