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Hadleys158

I am amazed russia didn't steal that set of binoculars, there must have been a child proof lock on them :P


splat313

I can't imagine all of the quarters someone is probably making off of that thing. (in the US some tourist destinations have binoculars like that that only work for a minute when you put a quarter in)


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Is this an American thing or do they come configured like this elsewhere?


mttp1990

I've seen some free ones in the US but mostly they require a couple coins. It wouldn't be a tourist trap without the nickle and diming


hasa_deega_eebowai

> It wouldn’t be ~~a tourist trap~~ America without the nickle and diming FTFY


monkeychasedweasel

Let me tell you about European pay toilets


Mr_Goat_1111

Oh yeah I've seen one in London, I was changing trains at a station and needed the toilets, to my absolute HORROR there was a turnstile blocking the way with a slot for a 50p coin, so obviously I climbed over the turnstile and the guy behind me that saw did the same lol


Fr-Jack-Hackett

Only ever seen them once in the UK. Jumped over them.


MvmgUQBd

They can't legally charge men for using the urinal and not washing their hands apparently. The charge is for the rest of the bathroom like sinks and proper toilets. I may be slightly off but I remember reading about it when I first encountered pay toilets, and apparently it's just one of those old laws that never got updated or changed from the early days when men's troughs were just generally up against a wall somewhere round the back of a building


hasa_deega_eebowai

Haha! Touché!


aredhel304

There may be pay toilets in Europe but I think the idea is that toilets are a service that need maintenance


WhatDoYouMean951

Sure but so are hospitals, doesn't stop them being paid for through taxes


pants_mcgee

Requiring a use fee is a form of tax. That isn’t a particularly bad way of generating maintenance revenue since it directly taxes the people using those services, and also taxes tourists who would otherwise not contribute to other tax streams.


[deleted]

I was just about to say at least we get free bathrooms and free water


JuiceColdman

The free water is the most American thing ever


boxingdude

Plus Europeans have to pay for a soft drink refill.


Payed_Looser

But not the healthcare that comes with the refills


boxingdude

That's how we can afford all those big guns!


HerrKraut

But thats a good thing. That's one of the reasons why morbidly obese landwhales aren't normal here.


boxingdude

I guess that's fair. What country are you from?


HerrKraut

My name is the game sooooo the same country your car is from. I mean german plates on a squarebody should have been a huge red flag too ;)


OrangeSimply

water and bathrooms in europe would like a word.


Canuck-In-TO

Water is free throughout Rome. They have about 2500 spouts throughout the city that flow 24 hours a day. https://www.wantedinrome.com/news/nasoni-romes-free-drinking-fountains.html


gamingraptor

That's one city in one country


hasa_deega_eebowai

It’s been a minute since I’ve travelled in Europe but this is true.


thermopesos

They have these all over Europe too. Stop being so dramatic


crimsonblod

What’s the equivalent concept of “nickel and diming” called in Europe?


FrontlinerGer

Considering Europe has about 30+ domestic languages, you're asking a question that cannot be answered by a single person unless they look up the answer in an online dictionary. At that point you might as well do it yourself since nobody is going to do it for you, I'm afraid.


crimsonblod

I was prepping for a joke that you can’t “nickel and dime” anyone outside of the US actually, cause different currencies. I was also mildly interested in the various ways to say it across Europe as well, but that wasn’t the reason I commented.


FrontlinerGer

I mean, the figure of speech I would assume would be universially understood, that wasn't the issue for me. I'd just be stumped if someone were to give you a full, comprehensive answer since that's, imo, too tall an order to ask. For us Germans it would be "getting your money ripped out of your pocket".


Unreviewedcontentlog

Bullshit. You can get water and use the bathroom here for free. Cant do thst in europe.


hasa_deega_eebowai

>>It wouldn’t be ~~a tourist trap America~~ capitalism without the nickle and diming There we go. Everyone happy?


wri_

Username is elite.


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mooimafish3

Yea you always gotta pay to use the safari zone binoculars in pokemon


hasa_deega_eebowai

Wow, really struck some nerves with this one. What is it about pointing out that the US has turned into a capitalist shithole that triggers you so much?


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hasa_deega_eebowai

Oh really? You have no idea how many stamps my passport has or where they’re from, and if you are going to seriously draw a conclusion from one little throw-away joke on Reddit, then you’re revealing yourself to be the small minded one, here. Anyway, carry on and fare thee well.


Kingshirez

And he's the triggered one


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palmettoswoosh

They just want the reddit easy karma points with "har har America isn't like the mythical mycountry^TM"


hasa_deega_eebowai

So many snowflakes on this thread.


lemho

I've seen and used them in europe as well. They are probably a standard cashgrab for touristic spots everywhere.


fliegende_Scheisse

I put a coin in one at Niagara Falls many years ago. It was great! I saw water close up. At the time, I thought that I was quite brilliant.


Canuck-In-TO

It’s also a Canadian thing.


RichWalterWhite

It's an older picture. You bet your ass, these binoculars have been stolen and mounted on a T34 or some shit for the next parade.


acrewdog

Yeah, I couldn't imagine the sign maker coming out for an install on a battlefield for a photo op. I can imagine it would take all day just to install those pavers.


Thebitterestballen

With work that neat and fast in a war zone, Ukrainian tilers are going to be in high demand when they are free to work in the EU.


Xx_Gandalf-poop_xX

The post picture is pre war.


torndownunit

They couldn't figure out how to use them. They kept looking in the wrong end.


Sea_Brass

"Sergei, this Ukraine witch machine shrunk you!"


Captainwelfare2

Sergei:: dives into washing machine:: “Reverseski! Reverseski!!!”


juicius

They wanted to steal it for their lady friend but didn't need to feel any more inadequate.


Baldrs_Draumar

they were kind of busy staying in the basement and foxholes, trying not to get blasted to bits.


ArcticCelt

Soon Lavrov : "As a gesture of goodwill, we allowed the Ukrainian flag to be raised on snake island."


on3day

"This was one of our main millitary goals. Jokes are actually on Ukraine because now we achived it."


Smokegrapes

“Later, the Russian authorities said that they had allegedly "completed tasks on the Zmiinyi Island and "as a gesture of goodwill" had withdrawn the garrison that was there.” 😂


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Rambo-Smurf

They have already stated that was a token of good will. They hope the exports of grain will soften the world opinion of Russia and let them keep Luhansk and Donetsk.


RenniePet

Ukraine should erect a huge statue depicting the Ukrainian soldier raising his middle finger.


wrong-mon

And they should also open a diving park that lets people go and explore the submarine Moscow


Sell_Reddit_To_Elon

They should install inexpensive MANPADS on the island with remote activation. Along with a cardboard HIMARS or other tasty target. Russians have made low-flying passes with warplanes, they would be easy pickings against inexpensive air defense controlled by a freaking Raspberry Pi and some servos.


in_allium

This is World War II level shit, like Patton's inflatable army to decoy the Germans away from Normandy, with guns made of telephone poles. This means that the Russians will absolutely fall for it.


Sell_Reddit_To_Elon

Russians are retarded.


Captainwelfare2

Honestly they should keep putting inflatable and wooden prop vehicles on there to have Russia waste ammo.


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And any unexploded ordnance you find, you can take with you!


I_like_ugly

We should totally crowd fund this. It would be the ultimate tourist destination once this shit is over


bindik

EDIT: OP provided source https://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2022/07/4/7356246/ they do indeed claim that they planted flag there, picture is still illustrative This is illustrative picture from before the war. I dont see any source backing your claim that flag is back, or if soldiers even went back. Article dating back to march 24th has it https://www.whqr.org/2022-03-24/snake-island-sailors-are-freed-as-ukraine-and-russia-conduct-a-prisoner-exchange


CorsicA123

It is confirmed by Natalia Humenyuk. She is a Speaker for Southern military district.


bindik

Can you link that source/quote?


CorsicA123

Edit: Article now available in English https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/07/4/7356246/


tt2--

Note, that the flag was dropped from an aircraft. Nobody risked the lives of Ukrainian soldiers.


ThaIgk

Yessir. The picture is given as an illustration to accompany the news


Rexia

I was going to say, after all the times that Ukraine struck the Island, it looked remarkably undamaged. Still, slava Ukraini, Snake Island is back in the hands of those it rightfully belongs to.


aredhel304

I had a hard time believing Russia left that monument fully intact, or that Ukraine decided to set it up on an island which is still relatively dangerous.


Grabbsy2

I thought maybe, for purely (good) propaganda purposes, they brought some nice bricks and signs with them and set this up in under an hour for a good photo-op. But this works just as well, haha.


D1stRU3T0R

Then why you didn't mentioned it on the OP


ThaIgk

I just found that pic in one of the Ukrainian news and at the time of posting I didn't know it was an old pic. Then, you know it's impossible to edit title and photo on Reddit


D1stRU3T0R

Then you should delete it, since you're spreading propaganda at this time (even if apparently it was confirmed to be actually happening)


bindik

Any source backing the claim itself though?


ThaIgk

Sure, here's the [source](https://nv.ua/ukr/ukraine/events/na-ostrovi-zmijiniy-vstanovili-prapor-ukrajini-novini-ukrajini-50254139.html) if you're good at reading Ukrainian


TotalSpaceNut

>Nataliya Gumenyuk, the head of the press center of the Defense Forces of Southern Ukraine, emphasized at the briefing that the Ukrainian flag was installed on Zmiino. >"The flag of Ukraine is installed on Zmiiny Island. The military operation has been completed and the territory has been returned to the jurisdiction of Ukraine," she said. Whoever stepped on that island has balls of steel, knowing Russia will be watching closely. Hats off to you, hope you dont sink the boat on the way back


not2dv8

Right? Or was being punished


tree_boom

Lol it would have to have been the screwup of the century to warrant that punishment


TotalWalrus

Yeah that's a crock of horseshit. You're just covering your ass afterwards


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ThaIgk

The Ukrainian flag is officially back on the Snake Island. [Source](https://nv.ua/ukr/ukraine/events/na-ostrovi-zmijiniy-vstanovili-prapor-ukrajini-novini-ukrajini-50254139.html) However, it's in Ukrainian, though


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diversifyurlife

Douchenizatation


MavDrake

Reports of a flag back up on snake island warrents a real photo of said flag being hoisted. Not a generic stock photo pre-invasion. I'm glad it's been done however the optics are important when you're publicing stuff. It leaves skeptics with cannon fodder to call out their BS. Even if one emerges a little after the claims. We have a retired col in the USA that all over taking shit like this and spinning it as false UA claims. Mind you he is also an ex senator as well. Mother fucker has the fringe eating from the palm of his hand that Ukrainians committed the Bucha massacre. Edit: guys name is col Richad Black. Also as a side note the fuck tard claims RT is the only reliable unbiased new source so dude is clearly lost it and or is on the payroll.


Ca2Alaska

Lighten up Francis.


BetaOscarBeta

I was gonna say, Ukraine must be doing pretty well if they bothered to get a crew out there to install a tiny patio


DemonymLondon

>picture is still illustrative If by 'illustrative' you mean OP is knowingly posting outright propaganda pre war photos for imaginary internet points, then yeah. It's illustrative.


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They shouldve also put up a european flag just to piss em off extra


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[deleted]

You know what I mean. Be negative elsewhere


ThaIgk

[Source](https://nv.ua/ukr/ukraine/events/na-ostrovi-zmijiniy-vstanovili-prapor-ukrajini-novini-ukrajini-50254139.html)


itsjero

Ukraine, fuck yeah!


ThaIgk

The Border Service of Ukraine has also [published the news with a photo](https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=372658531639690), though, I'm not sure if they posted the new photo or if that photo was from before the Snake Island's occupation by russkies.


grizzlez

probably before, what are the chances of Russia leaving that plaque up


__kit

Putin on his deathbead: "Sir millions of people suffered and some died because of your actions, was it worth it?" Putin: "Yes, don't you see, for a brief moment we held Snake Island!"


CryptoRoast_

Just wondering why you would you use an old image?Just post it with no image. Or a link to the article stating Ukraine is now in control of it again. Stuff like this is so easy for russian trolls to pick up and use to further their "Ukrainian lies" narrative.


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aredhel304

So it’s okay that OP misled people to get more upvotes since people are visual?


neil23uk

Nice one Ukraine.


Top-Border-1978

So the russians left that Ukrainian monument in perfect condition?


pampic7

This is an old picture, there is no picture of the new flag


cubanpajamas

..because it isn't up yet.


Skud_NZ

There will be a new monument built. It will read "Ruzzian warship, go fuck yourself"


Darket1728

Yeah, I dont doubt the ukranians are in the island but an actual pocture would be better.


kennmac

Thank about what you just said. How does anyone plan to get this picture? While we're at it, we'll get a live broadcast from Mariupol also.


aredhel304

If someone was there to put the flag up, the thought process would follow that they could also take a picture. Probably just forgot, but it’s definitely not that wild for someone to take a picture if they put the flag up. Mariupol is Russian occupied right now, Ukraine just reclaimed Snake island. Not a good analogy.


pantsareoffrightnow

Yup, just like the Snake Island defenders died


dummoldfart

May it stay there, and in the rest of Ukraine, too!


Captainwelfare2

It’s a precursor for the flag raisings to come.


Individual_Break6067

Trolling the Russians is half the fun, no? Maybe there is no flag but someone in Russia is going to try and find it.


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how is that trolling? russia gave the island back to them.


realsinisterpotato

"gave". Funny way to say they got tired of having their shit blown up and stopped trying to occupy it.


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clanon

NO , it is [NOT](https://www.facebook.com/GeneralStaff.ua/posts/1978355479000366) PS: the picture is from 2021 july...**SMH**


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Icantcratenick

You'd really expect undamaged binoculars and sign to be standing there?


SookHe

Russian warship, go fuck yourself. ✨✨ *And they did* ✨✨


GoodGorbash

Hope he's got enough coins to keep those binoculars running!


MartinHardi

Hope they get it all back ....


Infamous_Island1941

Russia, on behalf of most of planet Earth, go fuck yourself!


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The snakes are probably happy too.


M3ptt

This is a pre-war photo, it is **not of Snake Island as it stands currently**.


leathercock

Game changer.


MAXQDee-314

Love the Ukrainians. Making a War Zone a tourist attraction with telescopes that let you see all the way to Moskva ndr the sea. That crappy translation in Ukraine language was the best I could do...


Arithik

I would put a bunch of dummies around the island and leave it abandoned so Russia keeps trying to take it and/of waste bombs on it.


redditisnowtwitter

Every Russian troll ever "shit I'm gonna have to find another reply other than 'what about snake island?!' now"


Derboman

Just to add to the whole, it's just 'Snake Island', there is no 'the'


seba37

Soon we will put our flag back in Simferopol.


ThaIgk

Саме так.


seba37

І ніяк інакше.


ThaIgk

100%.


IndicationHumble7886

Russia off to fuck themselves back in Russia screaming "you didnt win! We are leaving because we are nice!"


tomandjerry-12

A country without a navy wrestled one of the world’s greatest navy over the control of the ocean, and won…


ValterZbarac

WHAT, did they go back??? for what reason, they gonna be bombed, what's going on??? isn't it stupidest thing they can do?


ThaIgk

Installed flag and went back to the mainland. What's the issue?


ValterZbarac

oh okey, I though they went back and stayed. sorry


ThaIgk

Of course, no. Our command is not that stupid as russkies. I understand the plan is that our flag on the island serves as a bait for russkies to come back so they could serve a good target again


in_allium

Set up a washing machine and toilet there too, to make it more likely that they'll take the bait.


Skud_NZ

This is smart. And also a funny troll


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They (the Ruzzians) didn’t give it back, they withdrew from the Island as a ‘gesture of goodwill’. After the new long range artillery made it impossible to hold…😁


Odd-Pie-2792

Think I would be concerned that the Russians had spiked the island with biological weapons. Because, you know, Russians….


ZachMN

Dead orcs are a type of biological weapon…


Baensky

Why was it given back ? I don’t get it ? Don’t get me wrong: fuck the war


ashesofempires

The island is close enough to Ukraine controlled territory that they can hit it with long range artillery and rockets from the coast. Russia can't reply because they either didn't bring their own artillery, what they did bring was destroyed, or they ran out ammo for theirs. The presence of newly provided NATO anti ship missiles, along with Ukrainian developed ones, means that Russia can no longer safely resupply the troops on the island by ship. They also can't use helicopters to resupply by air, as the helicopters get struck by artillery while landing. So Russia was forced to choose to try to expend ships and aircraft and men trying to hold it, or withdraw. They chose to withdraw.


Baensky

Thank you sir


BlueWulk

Russkies got their asses whipped. Ukrainians bombed them to oblivion so Or©s had to abandon the island! 🥲✌️🇺🇦


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FaZe_Boris69

well it's not like russia is actually achieving anything apart from destruction and hardship in ukraine anyway so they aren't winning either begone russkie bot


Skud_NZ

It was constantly being bombed. The bad guys gave up holding it, it wasn't worth it


ThaIgk

[Source in English ](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/04/ukrainian-flag-raised-over-snake-island-after-russian-retreat)


forge4life

Can't imagine the russians did not disassemble the signage.... Is this just an old pic?


-Depressed_Potato-

Ye, it's just an old pic


Kornelius42069

Okay, but what about the Luhansk Oblast?


feiben148

*gone, reduced to ashes*


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That massive fake propaganda story?


ThaIgk

No propaganda in this news, just the fact, but you don't care


Breeze327

Hes talking about the propaganda that pretended the snake island defenders told the warship to go fuck itself when in reality they dropped to the ground and surrendered :)


1ne_

Yea that’s the one. I guess the story of “they said fuck you then immediately surrendered and then were returned home safely” isn’t as brave of a story.


Gsk801

let’s goooo boys!!!


EntertainerFeisty269

At about 5 am, Ukrainian soldiers landed on the island from a motor boat and took pictures with the flag. A Russian Aerospace Forces aircraft immediately launched a missile attack on the island, as a result, some of the Ukrainian military personal were destroyed, rest fled in the direction of primorskoye point in Odessa region. Edit: https://www.reuters.com/world/russian-defence-ministry-says-warplane-hit-ukrainian-troops-snake-island-2022-07-07/


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AndyC_88

It's quite common to use previous photos for a news story


dashingtomars

Of course. My point is that the image OP posted was not evidence of the statement in OP's title. When I made my comment OP had not provided a source for the claim or made clear that the image was a stock photo.


MavDrake

Agreed but we're going to get downvoted to oblivion. Folks don't get the logic.


Ca2Alaska

Maybe you should look into the OPs profile and consider they may be excited and proud the Ukrainian flag is there and get off your high fucking horse. This is a r/Ukraine not any other country. OPs facts were correct.


ThaIgk

The Ukrainian flag is officially back on the Snake Island. [Source](https://nv.ua/ukr/ukraine/events/na-ostrovi-zmijiniy-vstanovili-prapor-ukrajini-novini-ukrajini-50254139.html)


dashingtomars

It would have been better to link that in the OP.


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So what this won't help the war effort


ThaIgk

Then you don't know shit if you say/think this way


[deleted]

How is that helping the troops in donbass in any meaningful way? How is that helping the remnants of units which sent to fight for cities and positions that were not holdable? Tell me.


CSHRCK

At least they could keep one Island for Zelinskiji


Monistico

Meanwhile in ludhansk


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ThaIgk

The Ukrainian flag is officially back on the Snake Island. [Source](https://nv.ua/ukr/ukraine/events/na-ostrovi-zmijiniy-vstanovili-prapor-ukrajini-novini-ukrajini-50254139.html)


MavDrake

You posting that photo is like someone saying the American flag is back at the world trade center in NYC after the attack occurred but uses a photo of the WTC flag atop it before the attack vs the actual photo of the flag raised above the rubble. Example https://images.app.goo.gl/NX2VVETkdjPLFcm87


BlevinsSaki

Great now can the American goverment actually support its own citizens for once? They proved they had the funds to just throw away when it came to the ukraine


[deleted]

nice to see you think ukranians lives are worthless eh? not like they are fighting so americans dont have to


BlevinsSaki

They arent fighting so america doesnt have to, its not always americas job to protect everyone begging for help


[deleted]

so why does america behave like they are the world police? Ukranians are fighting off russia, bravely defending the west and their right to live free, least we can do is aid them the best we can


BlevinsSaki

Thats the goverment and ignorant people who just want war


Paul_Stern

With the amount of lies about this war I wouldn't be surprised if this photo was taken in 2016. Or maybe the Ghost of Kiev (tm) threw it down as a javelin while flying overhead?


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ThaIgk

[Link](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/04/ukrainian-flag-raised-over-snake-island-after-russian-retreat)


Infinaris

I’m actually impressed the sign and that are still there intact and not vandalised by the orcs, unless they gave it a repaint along with the new flag.


IgnoranceIsAVirus

Bring a geiger counter, they may have left some surprises.


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Love it Love it Love it Go Home Russian Pigdogs