I’m going to hijack this, but do you have an actual citation of where internal employees can apply as externals to public postings?
I got into a Friday afternoon disagreement with a recruiter about this who disqualified someone who made a 13 cert previously as an external, but took a 12 to get in the system and was unemployed, then we had another 13 open 6 months later to the public but now the recruiter is saying she isn’t eligible.
My argument of “well if she would have stayed on unemployment then she would had been eligible why is getting a job hurting her” didn’t fly now we are meeting with her lead next week. If you have something it would save me some time
It is open to US citizens. 1 posting for an internal and external cert.
Current employee with 6 months time in grade applied based on outside experience, which she has and has made a 13 external cert before.
Emailed the recruiter to confirm that she is not applying as an internal, aware that she will not make the internal cert, and only wants consideration based on non-gov experience.
HR said she can’t do this and will be disqualified for the external due to lack of time in grade.
Did the same - you’re over thinking it.
Are you a current employee?
Why leave out relevant experience on your resume?
That was my take, worked for me. Good luck.
30% DV only applies up to a GS11. Meaning VRE only gets you to a GS11, you’d get 10 point veteran preference points in any grad as long as you’re at least 30% service connected.
VRA and 30% DV are different.
30 Percent or More Disabled Veteran: This authority enables a hiring manager to appoint an eligible candidate to any position for which he or she is qualified, without competition. Unlike the VRA, there is no grade-level limitation.
https://www.opm.gov/fedshirevets/hiring-officials/strategic-recruitment-and-hiring/veterans/#url=30-Percent-Disabled
We just pulled a guy into a GS13 billet in my current office using 30% DV.
If IRS, the IRM says this:
**6.300.1.10.6 (11-06-2009)**
# Exceptions to TIG
1. An exception to the TIG restrictions does not provide an exception to other applicable requirements, such as qualification standards or the merit promotion program.
2. **For the following actions, an employee is not subject to the TIG restrictions**
1. **A current employee may be selected from an external (DEU or OPM issued) certificate of eligibles without regard to TIG. This action is processed as a conversion to a new appointment.**
You should answer honestly. Experience is experience- of course you can use your gov experience.
I’m going to hijack this, but do you have an actual citation of where internal employees can apply as externals to public postings? I got into a Friday afternoon disagreement with a recruiter about this who disqualified someone who made a 13 cert previously as an external, but took a 12 to get in the system and was unemployed, then we had another 13 open 6 months later to the public but now the recruiter is saying she isn’t eligible. My argument of “well if she would have stayed on unemployment then she would had been eligible why is getting a job hurting her” didn’t fly now we are meeting with her lead next week. If you have something it would save me some time
It says in the announcement that the job is open to US citizens. As for the rest of your question- I don’t even understand what you are asking.
It is open to US citizens. 1 posting for an internal and external cert. Current employee with 6 months time in grade applied based on outside experience, which she has and has made a 13 external cert before. Emailed the recruiter to confirm that she is not applying as an internal, aware that she will not make the internal cert, and only wants consideration based on non-gov experience. HR said she can’t do this and will be disqualified for the external due to lack of time in grade.
Well read my guide and look at the regulations that are posted there .
Ty.
Guide here-https://www.reddit.com/r/usajobs/s/gA4CZenUlh
Did the same - you’re over thinking it. Are you a current employee? Why leave out relevant experience on your resume? That was my take, worked for me. Good luck.
30% DV only applies up to a GS11. Meaning VRE only gets you to a GS11, you’d get 10 point veteran preference points in any grad as long as you’re at least 30% service connected.
VRA and 30% DV are different. 30 Percent or More Disabled Veteran: This authority enables a hiring manager to appoint an eligible candidate to any position for which he or she is qualified, without competition. Unlike the VRA, there is no grade-level limitation. https://www.opm.gov/fedshirevets/hiring-officials/strategic-recruitment-and-hiring/veterans/#url=30-Percent-Disabled We just pulled a guy into a GS13 billet in my current office using 30% DV.
If IRS, the IRM says this: **6.300.1.10.6 (11-06-2009)** # Exceptions to TIG 1. An exception to the TIG restrictions does not provide an exception to other applicable requirements, such as qualification standards or the merit promotion program. 2. **For the following actions, an employee is not subject to the TIG restrictions** 1. **A current employee may be selected from an external (DEU or OPM issued) certificate of eligibles without regard to TIG. This action is processed as a conversion to a new appointment.**