He needs to see several doctors, including but not limited to a gastroenterologist, allergologist, a dermatologist and a dietician. Reddit won't help here.
Also it might be a pesticide problem.
Sounds like he needs to see a doctor/several professionals. If this is a new-ish issue something might be wrong. Even if it's an old issue it could be chronological. Better find medical solutions that will allow him to eat and get nutrients.
Psychiatrist? Psychologist. Almost certainly a gastro.
It’s probably not the food, or the persons stomach, but something that is external and correctable.
Sometimes people have to move or relocate to be able to eat the things they like.
I’ve known people to travel overseas, and stay permanently, because they had trouble eating in one country, for whatever reason.
It’s a bit like those people who sometimes travel interstate, because they simply can’t survive due to the climate, because of mould or fungus or allergens or something.
Dermatologist. If he's convinced that he knows a "root cause," then there's no helping him, but a dermatologist would be able to get him medicated shampoos and lotions.
Certain people really want there to be a reason they can't be vegan, so they'll ignore anyone who says that there's no link between diet and seborrheic dermatitis and insist that diet is the reason for their issues. Suddenly when they remove the stress of trying to justify their behavior, they see a resolution of stress-aggravated symptoms.
Husband is a ticking time bomb for the carnivore diet.
Oh I see, so what kinda of environmental conditions can they not eat in then? We live in a major city in Australia.. like, how would that affect what we eat and our bodies? I’m a bit confused on how that works
He also said it happens right after he eats certain food so it can’t really be because of where he lives
I’m talking about things like microbiology, temperature, activity, work, climate such as daylight hours and sunlight, and external interference from artificial light, including AC and RF pollution. They all differ. Some people struggle, and find it easier if they move, others are advised to by their doctors or GP or specialists. It also depends on your language and origin, genetic and political.
Look up aeroplankton. Even the airand distance to water and type of water and wind direction and building design and hvac system or filtration (or lack thereof) contribute to changes.
Everything has cumulative changes on other singular things.
Ambient noise, noise pollution might also be an issue. And friends! There’s so much.
Diet is only one of the components.
Crikey, sorry I was busy picking up a pizza.
There’s so much else to talk about. This was only an idea in case someone isn’t responding to any other type of assistance.
What I can relate is my personal experience, while being a Omni/low meat consumer, before striving for plant exclusive.
There is a massive volume difference in the amount of plants you have to eat, if you don’t eat any meat or dairy.
What people sometimes do is they drop the meat, because they can’t afford it or it might be difficult at the time, or for ethical reasons.
But keep eating the same amount of plants, or barely increase it.
In short, most people don’t know how to eat plants, and not many people know how to teach them.
That’s pretty much it.
Oh, one other thing.
Plants are really slow to cook, and eat, and you don’t know how to spice it and make it taste the same, so it’s actually a really difficult exercise, especially if you’re trying to meet nutrition and have things that you can’t eat.
I guess that person doesn’t have allergies, or intolerances, but is simply eating so little that they’re having an extreme reaction from a deficiency in their diet.
My suggestion is to look at the blueprint protocol, as an example of what level of effort you need to go to to meet full nutrition.
Or, to use Cronometer, and meet all of your micronutrient and macronutrient targets.
If you’re working or studying, you probably simply don’t have time, because it’s so difficult to eat in the time you have.
So, from my perspective, I’m unemployed, that means I have the possibility of time because I do get a very small job seeking allowance.
So I’m using that time to learn to cook, particularly to do meal preparation, and even so, it is very difficult to maintain. It’s probably as my Microbiome is quite different to the average successful vegan, and I’ve noted it doesn’t shift quickly, even nearly exclusive plant-based for weeks, and I still have some difficulty.
I’m looking forward to better microbiome availability through gastroenterologist and the public health system.
At this moment, there’s not much competence in those areas.
Edit: dodgy AutoCorrect corrections
Your partner may be dealing with a variation of IBS which requires a major avoidance of foods high in FODMAPs. I would recommend reading up about the low-FODMAP diet and do a few searches here as others have asked in the past how to pull off said diet while being vegan (I've been doing it for over half a decade now).
Avocados is fine, potatoes also makes his skin bad. So like fresh salads are apparently okay in small amounts but he said when he ate too much salad and fresh fruit (because it’s cooked foods that isn’t good for him) then the too much salad gave him digestive issues.
Or he’s always hungry and never satisfied when he eats only the fresh stuff
I would suggest a FODMAPs process, but it *seems* like he’s got SIBO & should see a registered dietitian / qualified nutritionist via doctor referral. I was in a tangle like this years ago and it turned out I had a type 4 (delayed hypersensitivity) allergic reaction. It took a couple of years to work my digestive system into a healthier state. I’m still gluten intolerant but no antibody tests were positive (though I was off gluten long before the testing). Endurance test, getting thru it, but I learned a lot from the ordeal.
Dermatologist and psychiatrist/psychologist. If he’s been tested and not allergic to anything… you have your answer. He’s finding problems because he wants to eat meat.
Didn’t say lying. Psychosomatic symptoms are absolutely possible, so is developing skin sensitivity to products like shower gel or cream even after years of use.
Oh true, we also need to put on our shower filter because we still use tap water.. that could also be making it worse. He does say it gets worse after showers
Isn’t forcing the man to be vegan causing the psychological problems? If he were allowed to eat food of his own choosing I’m sure he wouldn’t need a therapist. Sounds like a toxic dynamic.
If the problem with beans and legumes are digestive then I'd just say eat a little everyday and increase when he starts adapting. Onion and celery help me a lot when it comes to digesting the almost scary amount of beans I eat everyday. Starving yourself will just make the digestion problems worse since the gut bacteria that helps you break down the fiber die when you don't eat.
I'm more interested in whether you see any of the "bad skin" symptoms. Is it noticeable to the eye? Does he itch and scratch while not vocally talking about it or drawing attention?
>My husband said that grains, legumes and beans and soy things like tofu make his skin bad (seborrheic dermatitis) and that vegetables and eating only fruit/raw vegan and legumes and beans make his digestive issues bad… can’t say TMI
He sad this, but i assume you live with him, does it look bad to you?
Have the doctors said the diet is the issue?
>I’ve posted about him before, about how he wants to try a fruit and meat/eggs diet because he seems to think that’s the only thing that would help and keep him full and help with his health
Why does he think this, did he use google?
I did and i found this
Does he consume alcohol, is he going to quit that as well? Has he tried probiotics? A yeast free diet?
>*While there are no good clinical studies, yeast and mold elimination diets may be helpful for people who have a difficult time controlling their seborrheic dermatitis. This entails eliminating breads, cheeses, wine, beer, excessive carbohydrates, and other foods made by yeast or fungi. Taking high-quality probiotics in conjunction with this type of diet helps ensure that the gut gets repopulated with healthy bacteria and yeast. For more details, refer to the Whole Health tool Elimination Diets.*
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>https://www.va.gov/WHOLEHEALTHLIBRARY/tools/seborrheic-dermatitis.asp#:\~:text=While%20there%20are%20no%20good,made%20by%20yeast%20or%20fungi.
You said he's not allergic to anything, have you personally seen these symptoms? If he can't handle eating vegetables I don't see how meat would be easier on his digestion, he might need an ultrasound of his GI tract.
That sounds terrible. Does he know for sure that his skin issues are CAUSED by those foods? Are YOU sure? Could it potentially be a psychological issue?
If you’re sure those foods are affecting his skin, he’ll probably have to be vegetarian for the time being (technically still vegan if he’s trying his best - just not plant based). Eating only nuts, seeds and pea protein is incredibly unsustainable and unhealthy.
Mans needs to see a doctor for sure, sounds like he’s let whatever it is go on too long and his body is fighting back. My sister and mom’s best friend both went through something where their bodies were allergic to seemingly everything for about a year but it was really that their immune systems were extremely compromised from underlying illness.
Essentially the allergies are most likely a warning sign of something more serious for you to pay attention to not the issue itself.
The other explanation could also be preparation techniques and what foods you are combining. You could look into the science of Ayurveda to learn what foods interact well together and which can easily cause digestive issues. Make sure all of his food is cooked, never raw. He may just have a naturally weaker digestive system that requires more preparation time for food to make it more readily digestible.
Sounds like he needs to see professional doctors and a nutritionist.
A nutritionist may try to find out what he can eat, such as if he can have mushrooms and what kind of vegetables he can and can not have in order to figure out how to meet his needs. He may even need to take some (or more) vitamins in order to address the micronutrients he can not get because there are so many foods he can not eat.
At the end of the day, he can only do what he can do. So I say, see ad many specialists as you can until you both have an idea of what is going on and the cause of it (I know when my sister first got Lyme disease, it took a year to get any answers on what she had and she became allergic to all types of foods but many of those allergies were temporary and her allergies were not consistent ... so it may take time and a lot of frustration before you get any answers).
Your husband needs to see a dietician and a dermatologist at minimum, not seeking advice on a reddit forum. These issues sound quite similar to sibo. If your husband is able to see a specialist and they agree he cannot continue consuming high amounts of fiber or beans lentils and soy, you will both need to accept that strict veganism is unsustainable in the long run for him.
Not every body reacts to high amounts of certain foods the same and at the end of the day, he has to eat something. Wishing luck that he's able to recover his health soon.
Edit: a word
Let? I have no control over what someone does… I can’t let or not let him, I’m not his boss :/ he’s gonna eat what he wants, right now he chooses not to eat meat
Forgot to mention that wheat and even gluten free products makes his skin the most worst and mock meat is the worst out of all and he said nuts are bad too
I can’t really think of any other vegan foods then 🤔 he can’t have fruit, veggies, nuts, wheat, grains, legumes, or soy? So that’s pretty much everything, does he usually just eat meat then?
He needs to see several doctors, including but not limited to a gastroenterologist, allergologist, a dermatologist and a dietician. Reddit won't help here. Also it might be a pesticide problem.
Look up MCAS histamine intolerance r/histamine. And consider long COVID related gastro problems. r/longCOVIDdysbiosis
https://www.reddit.com/r/t5_7r6kjj/s/hNStcZRbNr Link above doesn't work, it's r/longcovidgutdysbiosis
Sounds like he needs to see a doctor/several professionals. If this is a new-ish issue something might be wrong. Even if it's an old issue it could be chronological. Better find medical solutions that will allow him to eat and get nutrients.
Psychiatrist? Psychologist. Almost certainly a gastro. It’s probably not the food, or the persons stomach, but something that is external and correctable. Sometimes people have to move or relocate to be able to eat the things they like. I’ve known people to travel overseas, and stay permanently, because they had trouble eating in one country, for whatever reason. It’s a bit like those people who sometimes travel interstate, because they simply can’t survive due to the climate, because of mould or fungus or allergens or something.
Dermatologist. If he's convinced that he knows a "root cause," then there's no helping him, but a dermatologist would be able to get him medicated shampoos and lotions. Certain people really want there to be a reason they can't be vegan, so they'll ignore anyone who says that there's no link between diet and seborrheic dermatitis and insist that diet is the reason for their issues. Suddenly when they remove the stress of trying to justify their behavior, they see a resolution of stress-aggravated symptoms. Husband is a ticking time bomb for the carnivore diet.
Oh I see, so what kinda of environmental conditions can they not eat in then? We live in a major city in Australia.. like, how would that affect what we eat and our bodies? I’m a bit confused on how that works He also said it happens right after he eats certain food so it can’t really be because of where he lives
I’m talking about things like microbiology, temperature, activity, work, climate such as daylight hours and sunlight, and external interference from artificial light, including AC and RF pollution. They all differ. Some people struggle, and find it easier if they move, others are advised to by their doctors or GP or specialists. It also depends on your language and origin, genetic and political. Look up aeroplankton. Even the airand distance to water and type of water and wind direction and building design and hvac system or filtration (or lack thereof) contribute to changes.
Everything has cumulative changes on other singular things. Ambient noise, noise pollution might also be an issue. And friends! There’s so much. Diet is only one of the components.
Crikey, sorry I was busy picking up a pizza. There’s so much else to talk about. This was only an idea in case someone isn’t responding to any other type of assistance. What I can relate is my personal experience, while being a Omni/low meat consumer, before striving for plant exclusive. There is a massive volume difference in the amount of plants you have to eat, if you don’t eat any meat or dairy. What people sometimes do is they drop the meat, because they can’t afford it or it might be difficult at the time, or for ethical reasons. But keep eating the same amount of plants, or barely increase it. In short, most people don’t know how to eat plants, and not many people know how to teach them. That’s pretty much it. Oh, one other thing. Plants are really slow to cook, and eat, and you don’t know how to spice it and make it taste the same, so it’s actually a really difficult exercise, especially if you’re trying to meet nutrition and have things that you can’t eat. I guess that person doesn’t have allergies, or intolerances, but is simply eating so little that they’re having an extreme reaction from a deficiency in their diet. My suggestion is to look at the blueprint protocol, as an example of what level of effort you need to go to to meet full nutrition. Or, to use Cronometer, and meet all of your micronutrient and macronutrient targets. If you’re working or studying, you probably simply don’t have time, because it’s so difficult to eat in the time you have. So, from my perspective, I’m unemployed, that means I have the possibility of time because I do get a very small job seeking allowance. So I’m using that time to learn to cook, particularly to do meal preparation, and even so, it is very difficult to maintain. It’s probably as my Microbiome is quite different to the average successful vegan, and I’ve noted it doesn’t shift quickly, even nearly exclusive plant-based for weeks, and I still have some difficulty. I’m looking forward to better microbiome availability through gastroenterologist and the public health system. At this moment, there’s not much competence in those areas. Edit: dodgy AutoCorrect corrections
Has he seen a specialist about food allergies and intolerances? This would be where I would start.
Your partner may be dealing with a variation of IBS which requires a major avoidance of foods high in FODMAPs. I would recommend reading up about the low-FODMAP diet and do a few searches here as others have asked in the past how to pull off said diet while being vegan (I've been doing it for over half a decade now).
Can't even eat potatoes? Avocados?
Avocados is fine, potatoes also makes his skin bad. So like fresh salads are apparently okay in small amounts but he said when he ate too much salad and fresh fruit (because it’s cooked foods that isn’t good for him) then the too much salad gave him digestive issues. Or he’s always hungry and never satisfied when he eats only the fresh stuff
I would suggest a FODMAPs process, but it *seems* like he’s got SIBO & should see a registered dietitian / qualified nutritionist via doctor referral. I was in a tangle like this years ago and it turned out I had a type 4 (delayed hypersensitivity) allergic reaction. It took a couple of years to work my digestive system into a healthier state. I’m still gluten intolerant but no antibody tests were positive (though I was off gluten long before the testing). Endurance test, getting thru it, but I learned a lot from the ordeal.
Find a good vegan nutritionist, get him tested for food allergies. That's where I would start
He got tested and apparently he isn’t allergic to anything lol
Dermatologist and psychiatrist/psychologist. If he’s been tested and not allergic to anything… you have your answer. He’s finding problems because he wants to eat meat.
No I actually see his skin getting worse when he eats these things, so I know he isn’t lying tbh
Didn’t say lying. Psychosomatic symptoms are absolutely possible, so is developing skin sensitivity to products like shower gel or cream even after years of use.
Oh true, we also need to put on our shower filter because we still use tap water.. that could also be making it worse. He does say it gets worse after showers
What does it look like? I haven't found anywhere that you describe it just "worse"
Isn’t forcing the man to be vegan causing the psychological problems? If he were allowed to eat food of his own choosing I’m sure he wouldn’t need a therapist. Sounds like a toxic dynamic.
Where is this forcing? If anything I think the guys a bit of an airhead and OP is trying to help him.
If the problem with beans and legumes are digestive then I'd just say eat a little everyday and increase when he starts adapting. Onion and celery help me a lot when it comes to digesting the almost scary amount of beans I eat everyday. Starving yourself will just make the digestion problems worse since the gut bacteria that helps you break down the fiber die when you don't eat.
I'm more interested in whether you see any of the "bad skin" symptoms. Is it noticeable to the eye? Does he itch and scratch while not vocally talking about it or drawing attention?
Victim blaming is not alright.
Why do you think I'm victim blaming? / genuine
>My husband said that grains, legumes and beans and soy things like tofu make his skin bad (seborrheic dermatitis) and that vegetables and eating only fruit/raw vegan and legumes and beans make his digestive issues bad… can’t say TMI He sad this, but i assume you live with him, does it look bad to you? Have the doctors said the diet is the issue? >I’ve posted about him before, about how he wants to try a fruit and meat/eggs diet because he seems to think that’s the only thing that would help and keep him full and help with his health Why does he think this, did he use google? I did and i found this Does he consume alcohol, is he going to quit that as well? Has he tried probiotics? A yeast free diet? >*While there are no good clinical studies, yeast and mold elimination diets may be helpful for people who have a difficult time controlling their seborrheic dermatitis. This entails eliminating breads, cheeses, wine, beer, excessive carbohydrates, and other foods made by yeast or fungi. Taking high-quality probiotics in conjunction with this type of diet helps ensure that the gut gets repopulated with healthy bacteria and yeast. For more details, refer to the Whole Health tool Elimination Diets.* > >https://www.va.gov/WHOLEHEALTHLIBRARY/tools/seborrheic-dermatitis.asp#:\~:text=While%20there%20are%20no%20good,made%20by%20yeast%20or%20fungi.
Almost certain he has SIBO.
You said he's not allergic to anything, have you personally seen these symptoms? If he can't handle eating vegetables I don't see how meat would be easier on his digestion, he might need an ultrasound of his GI tract.
That sounds terrible. Does he know for sure that his skin issues are CAUSED by those foods? Are YOU sure? Could it potentially be a psychological issue? If you’re sure those foods are affecting his skin, he’ll probably have to be vegetarian for the time being (technically still vegan if he’s trying his best - just not plant based). Eating only nuts, seeds and pea protein is incredibly unsustainable and unhealthy.
Definitely see a dietitian about this, but he may not be able to go vegan.
Mans needs to see a doctor for sure, sounds like he’s let whatever it is go on too long and his body is fighting back. My sister and mom’s best friend both went through something where their bodies were allergic to seemingly everything for about a year but it was really that their immune systems were extremely compromised from underlying illness. Essentially the allergies are most likely a warning sign of something more serious for you to pay attention to not the issue itself. The other explanation could also be preparation techniques and what foods you are combining. You could look into the science of Ayurveda to learn what foods interact well together and which can easily cause digestive issues. Make sure all of his food is cooked, never raw. He may just have a naturally weaker digestive system that requires more preparation time for food to make it more readily digestible.
Sounds like he needs to see professional doctors and a nutritionist. A nutritionist may try to find out what he can eat, such as if he can have mushrooms and what kind of vegetables he can and can not have in order to figure out how to meet his needs. He may even need to take some (or more) vitamins in order to address the micronutrients he can not get because there are so many foods he can not eat. At the end of the day, he can only do what he can do. So I say, see ad many specialists as you can until you both have an idea of what is going on and the cause of it (I know when my sister first got Lyme disease, it took a year to get any answers on what she had and she became allergic to all types of foods but many of those allergies were temporary and her allergies were not consistent ... so it may take time and a lot of frustration before you get any answers).
pulses are good for me, like peas and lentils
Your husband needs to see a dietician and a dermatologist at minimum, not seeking advice on a reddit forum. These issues sound quite similar to sibo. If your husband is able to see a specialist and they agree he cannot continue consuming high amounts of fiber or beans lentils and soy, you will both need to accept that strict veganism is unsustainable in the long run for him. Not every body reacts to high amounts of certain foods the same and at the end of the day, he has to eat something. Wishing luck that he's able to recover his health soon. Edit: a word
"My husband says". You should stop listening.
Yes, refusing to communicate with your spouse is definitely a healthy way to handle a disagreement over diet and nutrition... /S
Fruit improves digestion. He's got the wrong idea.
It doesn't always improve digestion. That's why he needs to go see a professional who can check out what his body is up to.
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Let? I have no control over what someone does… I can’t let or not let him, I’m not his boss :/ he’s gonna eat what he wants, right now he chooses not to eat meat
Vegan meat/cheese, pasta, bread, nuts
Forgot to mention that wheat and even gluten free products makes his skin the most worst and mock meat is the worst out of all and he said nuts are bad too
I can’t really think of any other vegan foods then 🤔 he can’t have fruit, veggies, nuts, wheat, grains, legumes, or soy? So that’s pretty much everything, does he usually just eat meat then?
Nah he doesn’t eat meat, he tried it once with egg last week but he has been vegan for 7 years otherwise
Vegans eat what they have to.