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Am American, and currently stuck amongst Christofascists. That is EXACTLY who uses the flag.
On one hand, it's disgusting. On the other, PLEASE identify yourselves clearly and stop stealing the nation's flag to perpetuate your political views. It's EVERYONE'S flag.
I've heard it's "no quarter", so basically kill everyone, take no prisoners.
Sounds about right for American Neo-fascists. They are all having wet dreams about lynching their Democrat neighbors in the streets when the "civil war" begins.
Historically a plain black flag means “no quarter;” that is, “we will not take prisoners, we will kill everyone.” All-black US flags have cropped up in more edgy circles as a way of basically saying “ooh look at us we’re so edgy; we aren’t pushovers and weaklings like the snowflake Left.” Suffice it to say this guy probably isn’t a pacifist.
>Historically a plain black flag means “no quarter;”
A plain black flag can mean anything, while in the context of pirates, a red base flag would mean that. A black flag base would mean the quarter was given.
I think it's worth remembering that a lot of the accepted wisdom around pirate flags is based on *very* little evidence. From memory, there's one or two contemporary sources mentioning pirates using the red flag to indicate no quarter given (in contrast to black effectively meaning this is your last chance to surrender or something like that), and also one or two which appear close to the other way around. But once one idea was taken up by some modern fictional portrayals of pirates, it latched on in the public imagination. Whoever started the idea of this all black stars and stripes as a "no quarter" thing presumably was going off something like that rather than the popular pirate story.
I suppose it's similar that there's a lot more evidence of people talking about black flags in non-pirate settings such as the US Civil War metaphorically to communicate the idea of no quarter being given, than of actual black flags being used that way. And the way upside down flags were rarely ever used as a distress signal at sea, because there were plenty of other alternatives, but that became known as one way to use the flag and so became more common as a political protest than as the personal distress signal the idea was based on.
>I think it's worth remembering that a lot of the accepted wisdom around pirate flags is based on very little evidence.
True, but we do have some solid evidence regarding the pirates who hoisted Jolly Roger and of course oriflammes, that were going to be either black or red.
That, and of course bloody flag already having that connotation, recorded from the late 13th century onwards, incl. bloedvlag, pavillon sans quartier, Swiss red banners, or even the Jolly/Joli Rogue itself that was based on the red flags used by French pirates. Even in early modern era, i.e. up until the end od 18th century, red banners were in use, as also articulated in Geoffrey Parker, 'Empire, War and Faith in Early Modern Europe'. Not like these symbols are there only due to recent popularity of the Atlantic piracy.
Oh sure, the bloody flag idea is much older. It just seems a bit strange to single out pirates as the context for using red rather than black for that meani ng, given that some of the oldest descriptions of the other way round are in a pirate context.
Flags have been used for Naval communication for a long time, like the first way to talk between boats before radio was invented.
So it's not unreasonable to assume the pirates had something similar.
oh the pirates definetly did use the bloody flag occasionally. I was just pointing out, that This specific flag got used by more vessels than just pirates
everytime pirates come up i am obligated to recommend the youtube channel gold and gunpowder, they talk about, and debunk a lotta pirate myths
like pirates weren't these proto-anarchist illegalists, they were greedy nobility who wanted more money, the shares thing existed, but it was more like 'captain and his friends get 95%, the rest 5'
What's even funnier is that just in about a decade ago, activists flying flags upside-down does not mean that their country was being hijacked by politicians and was in distress, but as a simple sign of disrespect of the whole sociopolitical machinery.
Somehow, the symbol was transformed and reinterpreted, and gained a much wider traction, because the more modern reinterpretation fits better with most protesting people's political worldview.
There has been, for a least two decades and I expect longer, some tension between the ideas that flying the flag upside down is disrespectful (which some activists would happily acknowledge and direct at the "whole social machinery" as you say) and the idea that it means no disrespect to anything the flag stands for since it is an accepted signal of distress. The distress meaning was a relatively common explanation for the practice both in anti-Iraq war settings, both to talk about current usage and to explain anti-Vietnam War use decades earlier.
Whether the protest (either in terms of disrespect or distress) is more in terms of despair at the whole setup or a claim of being hijacked is probably a more subtle question.
I see it as a way to "scare" the cops and the government away if they pull up to your house. Very silly considering the government don't give a shit about a edgy flag. 😂
Probably thinks he’s a tough guy but the people who fly shit like this, especially the stupid punisher skull flags, are usually the most insecure and cowardly amongst us. As someone who spends a lot of time around firearms, I encounter these people a lot and while insufferable, they’re usually big babies who can’t even shoot well.
My personal favorite act of cognitive dissonance is cops with gadsen flags. Dude, you're LITERALLY the boot that's treading. At least Punisher can be some sort of "I think the system's broke" mentality (it never is, but it can be!)
The Punisher is a criminal. He told cops to stop using his symbol, or else
"I'll come for you next."
https://www.newsweek.com/punisher-police-blue-lives-matter-skull-logo-1449272
Years ago I saw a SFPD motorcycle cop with a snek flag on his bike. And he was ASIAN. I'm like what in the cognitive fucking dissonance am I seeing here
I think I've read about these before somewhere, It meant something like no forgiving opposition/enemy or something like that as I remember, Basicly, Killing them all. Not sure if there's more to it, This is all I know.
>Been seeing this all over tiktok describes as the "no surrender flag"
Tiktok really have the most idiotic people from all sides of the internet, do they think they are in a war. No, it is more like "no mercy", which is worse
The house four houses down from me has this hanging in their front yard. I'm sure they think they're tough and I actually would not doubt they may be unhinged a bit if someone else on the street hung up a pride flag, for example... those seem to be opposite agendas communicated through draped fabric in public places, after all.
I see it as a symbol of fear, not to be feared. But - also violence... so we are cautious none the less.
It’s no quarters given, meaning if we were to ever be invaded by another country, we won’t be giving aid and will kill anyone who approaches. Essentially a no mercy no surrender flag.
“The owner of this property spends too much time on social media and probably bought into a conspiracy theory flying this flag.”
Genuinely no idea what the flag is but that’s all I think when seeing a modified American flag.
Not a-lot of flags could pull off wearing all black; I admire this flag’s bold and powerful style move.
Dressing monochromatically is a surefire way to make a bold statement with less. Simplicity projects strength. And while it’s possible to dress monochromatically with any color, it just hits differently when we’re talking about wearing all black.
Dressing in all black attire is often considered a reflection of simplicity, elegance, and sophistication. This choice of color scheme can be interpreted as a sign of a flag who is confident, empowered, and unafraid to stand out in a crowd. This flag has nailed that look, and wearing all black is slimming too!
i don’t understand this because flags are meant to be 2D. they’re not designed to have depth. you can only see the pattern on here because of the embossing, but if you just saw it in image form, it’s a generic black rectangle
A flag that absolutely that does not have utility and recognizeability as a flag in mind. Hang it from a flag pole and it looks like a black flag that you may be mistaken for an anarchist or a pirate.
it only looks metal from up close because of the bevel and texture but from far away it looks like someone left their flag in the oven for too long.
People mostly use this flag to signal the passing of someone from the military or because they think it looks cool. It is one of those don't read to much into situations. You can just go read the amazon reviews for why people bought it.
There’s an interesting history of all-black flags associated with the 747 AD revolution which established the Abbasid Caliphate (the super successful Muslim empire with golden age of Baghdad and learning & later annihilated by mongols) and echoed in later use by many groups: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Standard
It means No Quarter, which is a military term for taking no prisoners during times of war. Killing the entirety of the opposition including non combatants and civilians. The practice of No Quarter was officially recognized as a war crime in 1899.
Goth America
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If you ran that up the flagpole, I’d salute!
Holy cow, that’s a handy tool.
Fun fact but the guy in this painting was actually the artists dentist
Not sure I'd trust a dentist who's go-to was a pitchfork.
And looks like an undertaker.
[[Maw and Paw]]
Gotta convert those corpses on health
They're father and daughter.
Hence the pitchfork
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I just wanna leave this here: [American Dream by Ethanisreal](https://youtu.be/UUsLEy-T0-8?si=_N0MRy41sJk5xFwS)
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United States of Brittany
Spears?
Wave me baby one more time
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Why does it look like an ICP American flag to me?
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The return of the Gothic Empire
United States of Emorica
Great. The mental image of Uncle Sam in skinny jeans makes me want to cut myself.
https://preview.redd.it/rau8k7d06u8d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3f5eec23fb0948cd697ec7dfd7a1b37a30e727dc
Fuck, I wish
Goth bless America
Our new national anthem is "Love Will Tear Us Apart".
This is really fucking funny
Emorica
Goth Bless America
That would need purple streaks and blood-red pentagrams.
Goth Bless America...
Printer ran out
That can't be true. Printers don't print at all if they're out of yellow
->MAGENTA NEEDED!
https://i.redd.it/jlx9wokn7tl31.jpg
All black is the notification page they print out to let you know they're almost out of ink.
*uses eight pages worth of ink to print a single page letting you know you’re low on ink* Printers really are the Scumbag Steve of technology.
“PC load letter, fucks that mean?!”
This things luck I’m not armed
😆
It ran out by pouring all of its ink on the cloth\*
while it appears to be black, this is actually a massive red flag.
😂
Its currently used by fascists from what i have heard from americans(not one myself so i am a second hand source) so kind of true
Am American, and currently stuck amongst Christofascists. That is EXACTLY who uses the flag. On one hand, it's disgusting. On the other, PLEASE identify yourselves clearly and stop stealing the nation's flag to perpetuate your political views. It's EVERYONE'S flag.
Isn’t that irritating? I literally had stuff thrown at me and got called a racist for my American Flag covid mask back in 2020 😬
Because they've tainted it and the Gadsden flag.
Well we all need to fight to win them back. Maybe I should stick a Gadsen Flag next to a Pride Flag on my bumper and really confuse some people.
Not a bad idea tbh.
I've heard it's "no quarter", so basically kill everyone, take no prisoners. Sounds about right for American Neo-fascists. They are all having wet dreams about lynching their Democrat neighbors in the streets when the "civil war" begins.
With pirates the black flag meant quarter was given and the red flag represents blood and means no quarter will be given.
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Be cool if it was leather. Like a kinky gimp flag.
United freaky states
𝓕𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴𝔂 States of America
How did you do that?
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𝕬𝖜𝖊𝖘𝖔𝖒𝖊
𝖍𝖊𝖑𝖑 𝖞𝖊𝖆𝖍
The united freaks of america
"Here in black flag america, we don't believe in safe words"
I didn't know that Henry Rollins was into BDSM!
if a flag wore a ball gag.... how?
Historically a plain black flag means “no quarter;” that is, “we will not take prisoners, we will kill everyone.” All-black US flags have cropped up in more edgy circles as a way of basically saying “ooh look at us we’re so edgy; we aren’t pushovers and weaklings like the snowflake Left.” Suffice it to say this guy probably isn’t a pacifist.
>Historically a plain black flag means “no quarter;” A plain black flag can mean anything, while in the context of pirates, a red base flag would mean that. A black flag base would mean the quarter was given.
I think it's worth remembering that a lot of the accepted wisdom around pirate flags is based on *very* little evidence. From memory, there's one or two contemporary sources mentioning pirates using the red flag to indicate no quarter given (in contrast to black effectively meaning this is your last chance to surrender or something like that), and also one or two which appear close to the other way around. But once one idea was taken up by some modern fictional portrayals of pirates, it latched on in the public imagination. Whoever started the idea of this all black stars and stripes as a "no quarter" thing presumably was going off something like that rather than the popular pirate story. I suppose it's similar that there's a lot more evidence of people talking about black flags in non-pirate settings such as the US Civil War metaphorically to communicate the idea of no quarter being given, than of actual black flags being used that way. And the way upside down flags were rarely ever used as a distress signal at sea, because there were plenty of other alternatives, but that became known as one way to use the flag and so became more common as a political protest than as the personal distress signal the idea was based on.
>I think it's worth remembering that a lot of the accepted wisdom around pirate flags is based on very little evidence. True, but we do have some solid evidence regarding the pirates who hoisted Jolly Roger and of course oriflammes, that were going to be either black or red. That, and of course bloody flag already having that connotation, recorded from the late 13th century onwards, incl. bloedvlag, pavillon sans quartier, Swiss red banners, or even the Jolly/Joli Rogue itself that was based on the red flags used by French pirates. Even in early modern era, i.e. up until the end od 18th century, red banners were in use, as also articulated in Geoffrey Parker, 'Empire, War and Faith in Early Modern Europe'. Not like these symbols are there only due to recent popularity of the Atlantic piracy.
Oh sure, the bloody flag idea is much older. It just seems a bit strange to single out pirates as the context for using red rather than black for that meani ng, given that some of the oldest descriptions of the other way round are in a pirate context.
“The code is more what you'd call ‘guidelines’ than actual rules.” – Barbossa, Pirates of the Caribbean 😀
except it is not only a pirate thing but the bloody flag was a thing in several occasions and cultures.
Flags have been used for Naval communication for a long time, like the first way to talk between boats before radio was invented. So it's not unreasonable to assume the pirates had something similar.
oh the pirates definetly did use the bloody flag occasionally. I was just pointing out, that This specific flag got used by more vessels than just pirates
everytime pirates come up i am obligated to recommend the youtube channel gold and gunpowder, they talk about, and debunk a lotta pirate myths like pirates weren't these proto-anarchist illegalists, they were greedy nobility who wanted more money, the shares thing existed, but it was more like 'captain and his friends get 95%, the rest 5'
What's even funnier is that just in about a decade ago, activists flying flags upside-down does not mean that their country was being hijacked by politicians and was in distress, but as a simple sign of disrespect of the whole sociopolitical machinery. Somehow, the symbol was transformed and reinterpreted, and gained a much wider traction, because the more modern reinterpretation fits better with most protesting people's political worldview.
There has been, for a least two decades and I expect longer, some tension between the ideas that flying the flag upside down is disrespectful (which some activists would happily acknowledge and direct at the "whole social machinery" as you say) and the idea that it means no disrespect to anything the flag stands for since it is an accepted signal of distress. The distress meaning was a relatively common explanation for the practice both in anti-Iraq war settings, both to talk about current usage and to explain anti-Vietnam War use decades earlier. Whether the protest (either in terms of disrespect or distress) is more in terms of despair at the whole setup or a claim of being hijacked is probably a more subtle question.
lol for some reason the fact that we skipped modern anarchists and went straight to pirates really amused me
As much as pirates were in the zeitgeist. They sure got a lot of the facts wrong
Modern American right wingers also tend to get a lot of facts wrong so it’s pretty fitting that their edge lord flag is inaccurate as well.
In 1836, General Santa Ana flew an all red flag from a church near to the Alamo to signal no quarter.
It's like a reverse hobo marking. "This house has guns in it."
The good ole "rob me while I'm at work" flag
Ammosexuals hate it when you inform them that most burglaries statistically occur when they’re supposed to be at work.
"And we're itching for the chance to use them on our neighbors"
I see it as a way to "scare" the cops and the government away if they pull up to your house. Very silly considering the government don't give a shit about a edgy flag. 😂
LOL. Jokes on you. It's the cops that are flying the flag.
Or your house 🤣
Or you
And especially not your dog
And the same guys will praise the government in the same breath if it’s “their guy” or a law they support. Cognitive dissonance on extreme display.
Probably thinks he’s a tough guy but the people who fly shit like this, especially the stupid punisher skull flags, are usually the most insecure and cowardly amongst us. As someone who spends a lot of time around firearms, I encounter these people a lot and while insufferable, they’re usually big babies who can’t even shoot well.
They're nowhere near as bad as cops, but they're close.
The Venn diagram between the two groups is nearly a circle
My personal favorite act of cognitive dissonance is cops with gadsen flags. Dude, you're LITERALLY the boot that's treading. At least Punisher can be some sort of "I think the system's broke" mentality (it never is, but it can be!)
The punisher even killed cops in the comics
To be fair, corrupt cops. I'm totally on The Punisher's side but I'm also not sworn to uphold the law, just to support the constitution.
Sure, but the cops who sport punisher logos aren't the ones that'll adress the corrupt cops in the bunch.
They all want to be Dirty Harry but they don't realize they're Magnum Force. Edit: or they do realize and don't care, which is worse.
The Punisher is a criminal. He told cops to stop using his symbol, or else "I'll come for you next." https://www.newsweek.com/punisher-police-blue-lives-matter-skull-logo-1449272
Years ago I saw a SFPD motorcycle cop with a snek flag on his bike. And he was ASIAN. I'm like what in the cognitive fucking dissonance am I seeing here
Wait how does the Asian connect?
I think the owner "would've enlisted, but..."
I thought that was the red flag?
Well it *is* a red flag
Red flags tend to be identified more with leftist movements nowadays
More like since the 19th century, at least.
You know Dude I myself dabbled in pacifism once. Not in ‘nam of course.
What's funny is that an all black flag is a very old left-wing symbol.
Yeah I was gonna say is nobody in this thread familiar with anarchism?
If I remember it's basically a political flag stating that the person who owns it is willing to kill.
"sir, this is an Arby's"
We have the felons
For sandwiches
Flag of "I'm a domestic terrorist in the making, but call myself a patriot"
I think I've read about these before somewhere, It meant something like no forgiving opposition/enemy or something like that as I remember, Basicly, Killing them all. Not sure if there's more to it, This is all I know.
You’re trying to explain [no quarter.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_quarter)
The new orange
I smell a Netflix sequel.
Hit it! (Obnoxiously long intro begins)
THE ANIMAL, THE ANIMAL
defaced flag that's announcing they want to murder their political opponents
Specifically their neighbors.
Especially their neighbors.
Happy cake day!
it's always really funny to me to see a happy cake day in response to something upsetting
happy cake day yo
>Been seeing this all over tiktok describes as the "no surrender flag" Tiktok really have the most idiotic people from all sides of the internet, do they think they are in a war. No, it is more like "no mercy", which is worse
The same thing as an oversized truck, "Alpha" stickers, and a mid-life crisis sports car - compensation.
Pizza cutter flag, all edge and no point....
incel flag
The United States of the Blackpill.
Divided States of Embarrassment
Isn't that just the US normally?
It's not so much a pill as a suppository...
The house four houses down from me has this hanging in their front yard. I'm sure they think they're tough and I actually would not doubt they may be unhinged a bit if someone else on the street hung up a pride flag, for example... those seem to be opposite agendas communicated through draped fabric in public places, after all. I see it as a symbol of fear, not to be feared. But - also violence... so we are cautious none the less.
Me like "Uh, is this flag blue and black or white and gold?" (Remembering https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_dress)
It means yarr harr diddly dee
Being a pirate is alright with me
Its a big note on a pole saying “I COMMIT WARCRIMES!” Or more likely “IM A BRAIN WASHED REPUBLICAN!”
it means that they *will* kill you if you're not one of them and don't 100% agree with them. its the flag of crimes against humanity
It’s the traitors American flag.
It means a violation of flag code
Original meaning: - “We don’t take POWs. Run or die.” Modern meaning: - “I’m a far right populist”
It’s no quarters given, meaning if we were to ever be invaded by another country, we won’t be giving aid and will kill anyone who approaches. Essentially a no mercy no surrender flag.
“The owner of this property spends too much time on social media and probably bought into a conspiracy theory flying this flag.” Genuinely no idea what the flag is but that’s all I think when seeing a modified American flag.
It means the venom symbotie has taken america as it's host
Not a-lot of flags could pull off wearing all black; I admire this flag’s bold and powerful style move. Dressing monochromatically is a surefire way to make a bold statement with less. Simplicity projects strength. And while it’s possible to dress monochromatically with any color, it just hits differently when we’re talking about wearing all black. Dressing in all black attire is often considered a reflection of simplicity, elegance, and sophistication. This choice of color scheme can be interpreted as a sign of a flag who is confident, empowered, and unafraid to stand out in a crowd. This flag has nailed that look, and wearing all black is slimming too!
That’s a pretty sick flag. I’m sure my neighbors would think I’m making some kind of statement though
Would love to hang one up, but it has a dumb edgy meaning
[https://www.reddit.com/r/vexillology/comments/yd5f0d/what\_does\_an\_all\_black\_american\_flag\_mean/](https://www.reddit.com/r/vexillology/comments/yd5f0d/what_does_an_all_black_american_flag_mean/)
Conservatives just love defacing the flag.
They want to kill their neighbors.
The person flying it is an asshat.
Fascism lol
That’s a garbage bag
Pride flag for the deeply closeted.
Goth Bleth America
Mike Tython?
Flag of I am Insane and jumpy and will shoot the next person who knocks on my door
Idk but goes hard
V M E R I K A ...so aesthetic...
i swear to god ive seen this exact post
It honestly looks like bedding.
emo
Dye vat accident
i don’t understand this because flags are meant to be 2D. they’re not designed to have depth. you can only see the pattern on here because of the embossing, but if you just saw it in image form, it’s a generic black rectangle
A violation of the US Flag Code
A flag that absolutely that does not have utility and recognizeability as a flag in mind. Hang it from a flag pole and it looks like a black flag that you may be mistaken for an anarchist or a pirate. it only looks metal from up close because of the bevel and texture but from far away it looks like someone left their flag in the oven for too long.
I LIKE MY FLAGS CRISPY
It means a Henry Rollins sighting is imminent.
Fascists with a murder fantasy
Super duper de-stress for the super duper victims.
It actually looks pretty cool imo edit: nevermind it's apparently used by extremist far righters
People mostly use this flag to signal the passing of someone from the military or because they think it looks cool. It is one of those don't read to much into situations. You can just go read the amazon reviews for why people bought it.
Fascism pride flag
That isn't an American flag anymore.
It’s waved by fucking idiots.
Thick Oil Line to represent fracking support
That someone is a dumbass
I understand it as "no quarter" flag. Like take no prisoners everyone dies
It means they hate America and love violence
It means no prisoners no quarters
Kill the Libs
Generally when I see it I translate it to “I’m a gigantic douchebag bigot that wants a theocracy”.
No clue but it looks sick
The owner has warrants for not paying child support.
Opposite of white flag. “We’ll fight to the death” basically
As someone who doesn’t actually know, I can just imagine it being the flag of My Chemical Romance fans.
they asked for it to be well done
There’s an interesting history of all-black flags associated with the 747 AD revolution which established the Abbasid Caliphate (the super successful Muslim empire with golden age of Baghdad and learning & later annihilated by mongols) and echoed in later use by many groups: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Standard
It means you need to fix the printer toner.
Goth bleth America
It means No Quarter, which is a military term for taking no prisoners during times of war. Killing the entirety of the opposition including non combatants and civilians. The practice of No Quarter was officially recognized as a war crime in 1899.