Youâd rather own a company that has had at least 2 major negative documentaries made, canât make plane doors work correctly anymore, and has had major issues with regulators than pay a capital gains tax?
You belong here.
> And multiple whistleblowers die/suicide
That just shows commitment to inflating their stock price.
It's not like they aren't [unabashedly in the business of killing people](https://www.boeing.com/defense). What's a couple more to them?
If you have to pay LTCG tax it means you are still in the green so itâs no so bad. In any cases, cutting your losses and invest in a broadly diversified ETF (SP500, all-world, âŚ) is a much better perspective than a miraculous recovery.
I don't understand the thought of making money and being scared of paying taxes. It's such a weird thing to me. Why even invest if you don't want to make money
Agree. I feel that Boeing probably pressured someone at NASA to let this thing fly in the first place. Given the problems with their planes, there is no way I would trust them to make a vehicle capable of space flight.
I think they nailed the space flight part.... it's the return thing that they didn't bother developing.Â
Bet there's a heap of C suits sitting around a table complaining this shouldn't even be a issue as it was never supposed to reach space to begin with!
This is why we need NASA to build rockets again. NASA never had a profit motive and thus took their time to develop shit. Boeing used to be okay, but greed took over.
SpaceX somehow is doing fine, Elon is just very eccentric
NASA has always used contractors to build their ârocketsâ. Lunar module = designed and built by Grumman. Saturn V = Boeing, North American, Douglas. Orion = Lockheed Martin.
I actually spoke to some pretty high up people at nasa and the issue with them developing is that itâs government funded.
NASA has some of the greatest minds but they donât think about cost. They think about literally anything and everything else tho! The development details and things they research will feed private development immensely. Iâll share a story of what I mean.
They were testing something with a battery. Battery accidentally dropped during testing and explodes. The business move is âomg get this asset working and the project back on track for launch.â The people at nasa go, âwe didnât expect that, letâs do it again on purpose and run some tests.â
That story there is why NASA is great at new tech but at a far greater cost due to actually testing every thing they can think of vs slapping something together and sending it to space with people in it.
I donât think thatâs an issue right now.
I would think that the main issue with NASA doing development is that a huge chunk of the direct NASA engineers that work there are systems engineers that more or less manage contractors.
In fact, 73.5% of NASAâs budget was spent on contracts.
Youâd probably be surprised how often fucks ups happen in the aviation sector alone, maintenance workers make mistakes,.. things not installed correctly⌠etc. Look how much of a hot commodity Tesla is but the fraction of a % of drivers will have a serious malfunction.. brakes..car wonât stop..etc. Building / bridge contractors donât always keep up with codes/maintenance as has been seen in recent events. Nothing made by anyone is foolproof. Rockets with astronauts inside have exploded before.
I know you're not serious, but just because some people might not know....
Jumping from space is perfectly possible, as this video shows.
The difference between this guy and the astronauts is that he jumped from space while stationary. The astronauts are moving sideways at 28,000 kilometers per hour. This is a factor 10 faster than the speed you would get from a 250km high drop from space without taking air resistance in to account.
Those really high altitude parachute jumps are like 1% the energy of coming back from orbit. So no, the technology is not there. Although there was a concept with an inflatable ball you could ride down in, but it never went beyond the drawing board.
volvo should just launch a truck to the iss to save the astronauts. they can even have jcvd drive it... or ghost ride it while straddling the roof.
eta: it is funny that ~10 years after jcvd did that, there was rivian...
Sorry guys, Iâm here. Has anyone tried to buy back shares? It would concentrate the share value giving us a nice bump in the stock price which would benefit everyone, including the astronauts assuming they are holding shares.
Oh yeah, your astronauts definitely yoloI'd their life savings into a company whose engines fall off while riding the company's rockets known for leaking
Nice start! Let's also crush the unions and outsource everything to a low cost manufacturer. Next, let go of most of the QC folks and pass the savings on to the C-Suite. That should fix all the issues.
I remember reading in one of the stories that happened right after launch how proud one of the Boeing executives was with the flawless launch and all the shoulder patting he was doing.Â
Only minutes later the thing started literally falling apart.Â
Hopefully the space station has a nice cocktail lounge. They might be taking zero g dumps for a while up there.
> I remember reading in one of the stories that happened right after launch how proud one of the Boeing executives was with the flawless launch and all the shoulder patting he was doing.Â
He was part of the launch team, not the get-the-crew-back-to-Earth team. So it's Not His ProblemÂŽ.
Damn nuclear bombs, because of them, such a wonderful opportunity was missed to achieve complete tolerance in the Japanese Imperial Army. After all, they had plans to throw women, children and the elderly into banzai attacks on US positions.
>Only minutes later the thing started literally falling apart.
Yeah, that's the point where the Boeing made stuff had to start working. The launcher was ULA.
I mean, it shows you how they work when you read the last part regarding past attempts: \[...\] After more reviews last year, the company had to fix issues with the capsule's parachutes and **remove around a mile (1.6 kilometers) of tape that was found to be flammable**.
At least the emergency exit hasn't popped out yet.
This is the kind of shoddy engineering you expect from a Soviet-era communist tractor factory.
I hope it is just Boeing, and not an indicator of American decline.
There's no consequences for the top management decisions that lead up to this situation.
Zero accountability and they'll keep wining fat government contracts no matter what.
If anything goes wrong they just need to lobby a bit harder and throw a few more millions to the next Presidential campaign on both sides.
A company that's crucial to US security and transportation should not be allowed to do stock buybacks and paying 50% salary increases to the CEO in the year they had two fraud lawsuit and severe quality problems.
SpaceX was also selected to make a manned space vehicle. They did it far cheaper and have been shuttling astronauts to the space station since Nov 2020, earlier if you count the demo mission which is what Boeing is attempting to complete now.
Americans know how to build when there isnât an old, stock market driven corporation around them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX_Dragon_2
There is a huge difference between a shitty MBA company like Boeing and a company like SpaceX.
BTW we are going to see this play out in legacy auto EV vs new company EVs too. A BMW is absolute dogshit compared to a Tesla, Rivian, or Lucid.
Actually youâd be surprised to know Boeing won nearly twice as much for this fixed-price contract ($4.2 billion compared to SpaceXâs $2.6B). Boeing was seen at the time (2014) as the clear #1.
My guess where that money went: Boeing execs, sales, and marketing were compensated $4 billion, and only left $0.2 b to build and test the spacecraft.Â
Nope, they were the highest bidder. The lowest bidder also got the contract and has already completed all operational missions, with them launching the current mission Boeing is having issues with 4 years ago in 2020.
And you know exactly what happened there. They tried to skim as much of the fixed price as possible to help the books and sidestepped a metric load of proper engineering design steps.
All Boeing has to do is play the patriotism card and they get countrywide support
That's how they got the contract in the first place. Same with the Air Force tanker program
Boeing will kill the manned space program for 5 years and force SpaceX to not be able to launch astronauts while the government spends the 5 years investigating boeing.
Each boeing executive will walk out with more money than all the dead astronauts will make their entire lifetime once the investigation is over.
I sure hope Elons got a ship ready to fly a rescue mission. Time to break Boeing up into a million little pieces. Maybe they can make e-Bikes and e-scooters or something less complicated than airplanes and spaceships.
Elon announced that he was going to the moon with humans leaving orbit in 2017, I just got out of a coma, how did that go? Also, really excited for full self driving which has been out for many years.
The only other working human spacecraft the US flies is SpaceXâs Dragon, which actually is docked to the ISS right now because it took up the other US ISS crew members currently up there. NASA has paid SpaceX to successfully fly its astronauts on 9 missions so far to ISS since 2020. Literally the only American entity that is capable of human spaceflight besides Boeing is SpaceX.
Elonâs kinda an asshole and I donât give a fuck abt Tesla but donât draw all your knowledge from memes bc SpaceX is incredibly competent and by far the most capable space company out there.
Oh? Are you upset that Elon is 5 years late on developing transformative technology for the entire human race? How disappointed you must be. Give me a break.
>I sure hope Elons got a ship ready to fly a rescue mission.
Don't worry, he'll probably show up, offer a useless submarine and call Bill Nelson a pedophile for refusing it because it doesn't help.
[Reference](https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jul/15/elon-musk-british-diver-thai-cave-rescue-pedo-twitter).
Yeah, I may think Elon is an insufferable asshat, but SpaceX it putting rockets in space reliably at a breakneck pace. . . I get launch alerts sometimes less than 24 hrs apart for SpaceX rockets. . . Iâm all for competition but clearly SpaceX is the safer and cheaper option so why give Boeing another dime
100% clickbait.
The issue isn't preventing the astronauts from coming down. It was a problem from when they *came up*.
The part they are troubleshooting isn't supposed to survive reentry, so they are staying up in space for a while longer so they can diagnose and study the issue. Because when they decide to head down, the issue may or may not be replicated on the ground.
It's the control modules for the thrusters (used on the way up) that have issues. That module will be jettisoned on the way down so they are trying to learn as much as they can right now.
How long they can stay up there is dictated by the leaks. Can't stay too long until the tanks don't have enough juice to get back down.
This should be top comment.
But fuck boeing's top management bean counters and their stock price fixation culture for ruining a once great company.
We gotta find a way to break the corruption rampant everywhere...
âShArEhOlDeR vAlUe!&$!â AKA they milked the contract and awards for everything that they could knowing that NASA couldnât justify starting over with someone else.
"Stranded in space" is a great headline but unless the SOP on the ISS has changed they have a spare soyuz to get them home if the Starliner ends up being a no go.
Imagine grinding, working hard all your life to make it into the 0.0001% and selected to be an astronaut.
Then you find out youâre launching on a Boeing.
Praying for their lives? They're in the Space Station. They can live there for months, worst case Space X can send up a taxi for them. A rescue like this has never been done, but you can guarantee it would fire people up to see how quickly they could put one together.
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In space, no one can hear you whistle blow
Unfortunately for Boeing they have next of kin.
Not for long... đ
Families of astronauts died of grief đĽ
Heartbreak is a real condition and negates the need for an autopsy
It's called takotsubo cardiomyopathy. Might still need an autopsy tho. Idk if they do MRIs on corpses.
They will just sponsor them a holiday trip that starts with a long flight on a 787. Sweet Dreams....
Space might be the safest place to be a Boeing whistleblower
Unless their spaceship is a Boeing
It's a novel alternative to the hitman approach (or maybe the hitman is up there too...)
At this point, what this the hitman to employee ratio at Boeing? And will that be communicated at their next shareholders meeting as a major expense?
Well Boeing still hired an astronaut with 15 years of assassination experience, soâŚ. RIP
This sounds like a jokeâŚwtf is Boeing doing
Lining the pockets of the execs and shareholders at the expense of the US tax payer.
Execs probably. Shareholders not so much. Stock has been a dog over the last 4 years. Still isn't worth 50% of what it was pre-Covid.
This. Havenât seen a dividend check in years. Stock has been shit. Would like to sell, but would have to pay LTCG tax.
You don't pay taxes if you don't make gains. *- Sun Sue* - r/wsb
Another one of Lisa's cousins
Any relation to Sun Tzu?
Beorning victim from beyond the grave:"Son... sue!"
Youâd rather own a company that has had at least 2 major negative documentaries made, canât make plane doors work correctly anymore, and has had major issues with regulators than pay a capital gains tax? You belong here.
And multiple whistleblowers die/suicide
> And multiple whistleblowers die/suicide That just shows commitment to inflating their stock price. It's not like they aren't [unabashedly in the business of killing people](https://www.boeing.com/defense). What's a couple more to them?
Better pay LTCG than waiting for bankruptcy
I mean.. that'll always be a problem for you
Might not be. Letâs see how this plays out first
It's a bold tax strategy, Cotton!
Wait, is the plan to wait until the stock falls so much that there are no gains?
Itâs the smooth brain way
Reminds me of people who bitch about AT&T. Suffering shareholder here.
If you have to pay LTCG tax it means you are still in the green so itâs no so bad. In any cases, cutting your losses and invest in a broadly diversified ETF (SP500, all-world, âŚ) is a much better perspective than a miraculous recovery.
Not if itâs a net loss.
Would you rather lose all your value? If you were talking short term maybe but I would get out now.
I don't understand the thought of making money and being scared of paying taxes. It's such a weird thing to me. Why even invest if you don't want to make money
So, what's the problem?
They havenât made a profit in like 5 years
Not sure if serious or ironic.
Work on making money, taxes mean you are winning. Right now you are losing sitting on a deadbeat
 "at the expense of the US tax payer" Not to mention people who fly in their planes and now astronauts.
Shareholders 
It is also letting the sales team run the company not engineers
Their Department of Assassinations is really out of control.
Agree. I feel that Boeing probably pressured someone at NASA to let this thing fly in the first place. Given the problems with their planes, there is no way I would trust them to make a vehicle capable of space flight.
The good news: Boeing does not seem interested in making a vehicle *capable* of space flight.
I think they nailed the space flight part.... it's the return thing that they didn't bother developing. Bet there's a heap of C suits sitting around a table complaining this shouldn't even be a issue as it was never supposed to reach space to begin with!
This is why we need NASA to build rockets again. NASA never had a profit motive and thus took their time to develop shit. Boeing used to be okay, but greed took over. SpaceX somehow is doing fine, Elon is just very eccentric
NASA has always used contractors to build their ârocketsâ. Lunar module = designed and built by Grumman. Saturn V = Boeing, North American, Douglas. Orion = Lockheed Martin.
Challenger and Columbia have entered the chat
Thereâs a reason NASA is the originator of the phrase âgo-feverâ lmao. They knew about foam strikes on the shuttles for like 12 yearsâŚ.
Apollos 1 and 13 would also like a word
Need Another Seven Astronauts
I actually spoke to some pretty high up people at nasa and the issue with them developing is that itâs government funded. NASA has some of the greatest minds but they donât think about cost. They think about literally anything and everything else tho! The development details and things they research will feed private development immensely. Iâll share a story of what I mean. They were testing something with a battery. Battery accidentally dropped during testing and explodes. The business move is âomg get this asset working and the project back on track for launch.â The people at nasa go, âwe didnât expect that, letâs do it again on purpose and run some tests.â That story there is why NASA is great at new tech but at a far greater cost due to actually testing every thing they can think of vs slapping something together and sending it to space with people in it.
I donât think thatâs an issue right now. I would think that the main issue with NASA doing development is that a huge chunk of the direct NASA engineers that work there are systems engineers that more or less manage contractors. In fact, 73.5% of NASAâs budget was spent on contracts.
Listen to the Podcast âinside the back boxâ, the two episodes about Columbia. Will completely change the way you think about NASA
Space travel is just hard. 1,000 things have to be right before a rocket ever leaves the pad, especially with human cargo.
Youâd probably be surprised how often fucks ups happen in the aviation sector alone, maintenance workers make mistakes,.. things not installed correctly⌠etc. Look how much of a hot commodity Tesla is but the fraction of a % of drivers will have a serious malfunction.. brakes..car wonât stop..etc. Building / bridge contractors donât always keep up with codes/maintenance as has been seen in recent events. Nothing made by anyone is foolproof. Rockets with astronauts inside have exploded before.
It is but once it happens on your eyeball grabber your stock tanks.
Bribing congressmen and flag officers to buy the EX which we already know from day 0 isnât surviving in a modern peer A2AD environment. Swell.
busy assassinating folks.
Marrying their first cousins
Uncle dad told me there weren't nuthin wrong with that
But the placement of the eyes on your sister aunt's face says otherwise.
I could be wrong, but this is what I think happens to a company as a result of multiple layers of MBAs "optimizing" processes.
Iâm not an engineer, but I think I might be better at this just trying.
Awesome joke! Astronauts laughing their asses of it!
Those astronauts had a hell of a yolo on that mission.
Why can't they just get Red Bull sponsored parachutes and sky dive down? Surely, we have the technology by now.
[I Jumped From Space (World Record Supersonic Freefall)](https://youtu.be/Hz2F_S3Tl0Y)
I know you're not serious, but just because some people might not know.... Jumping from space is perfectly possible, as this video shows. The difference between this guy and the astronauts is that he jumped from space while stationary. The astronauts are moving sideways at 28,000 kilometers per hour. This is a factor 10 faster than the speed you would get from a 250km high drop from space without taking air resistance in to account.
https://preview.redd.it/gwqfrsn4g28d1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=879668f8f6c4ee02ee5f90e7b22a261a62aa2938
Why not using brakes? Just push the pedals
Why doesnât the largest astronaut not simply eat the others?
We really are better than these nasa engineer
If the pedals donât work I use the hand brake because then itâs an emergency
Those really high altitude parachute jumps are like 1% the energy of coming back from orbit. So no, the technology is not there. Although there was a concept with an inflatable ball you could ride down in, but it never went beyond the drawing board.
not true, i saw jcvd pull this off with dennis rodman's help.
I saw JCVD do splits on 2 semi trucks so anything is possible
volvo should just launch a truck to the iss to save the astronauts. they can even have jcvd drive it... or ghost ride it while straddling the roof. eta: it is funny that ~10 years after jcvd did that, there was rivian...
Somebody get ahold of the MBAs to tell us what to do!
Sorry guys, Iâm here. Has anyone tried to buy back shares? It would concentrate the share value giving us a nice bump in the stock price which would benefit everyone, including the astronauts assuming they are holding shares.
Oh yeah, your astronauts definitely yoloI'd their life savings into a company whose engines fall off while riding the company's rockets known for leaking
going all in on shares feels like a much wiser yolo for these astronauts than, you know, actually riding on the companyâs leaky rocket
Nice start! Let's also crush the unions and outsource everything to a low cost manufacturer. Next, let go of most of the QC folks and pass the savings on to the C-Suite. That should fix all the issues.
Reason why they choose veteran only for this test flight instead of bringing some younger face (for experience) with them.
Wonder if they would rather fly a starliner or 737-8 max w/floppy doors
It's Boeing. If the window for a return flight is closing, we can assume a door is opening.
"Whenever God closes a window, Boeing opens a door."
Blows open a door.
Soft landing. WaitâŚ
goddamn.. brutal and brilliant
I remember reading in one of the stories that happened right after launch how proud one of the Boeing executives was with the flawless launch and all the shoulder patting he was doing. Only minutes later the thing started literally falling apart. Hopefully the space station has a nice cocktail lounge. They might be taking zero g dumps for a while up there.
> I remember reading in one of the stories that happened right after launch how proud one of the Boeing executives was with the flawless launch and all the shoulder patting he was doing. He was part of the launch team, not the get-the-crew-back-to-Earth team. So it's Not His ProblemŽ.
"Once the rockets are up, who cares where they come down? That's not my department, " says Wernher von Braun.
Great Tom Lehrer song.
It is not surprising that the V-1 and V-2 missiles had such low accuracy.
I challenge you to build better guidance before computers were invented.
Japan Not a word more, thrusting the man inside the rocket.
The problem with that is by the time they were building those it would have been easier to find a computer than a young alive man.
Women, children, old people? So many opportunities.
If only they embraced diversity!
Damn nuclear bombs, because of them, such a wonderful opportunity was missed to achieve complete tolerance in the Japanese Imperial Army. After all, they had plans to throw women, children and the elderly into banzai attacks on US positions.
He tried hittng the moon but hit London instead.
>Only minutes later the thing started literally falling apart. Yeah, that's the point where the Boeing made stuff had to start working. The launcher was ULA.
Calls on BA, they will get Billions to find a solution.
That's some forward thinking dude.
So their new business model is⌠extorsion? Wait until they meet space-mafia
The solution: Pay Spacex to do a rescue mission using their Dragon capsule
I was hunting the comments for a comment like this. I FOUND YOU
I mean, it shows you how they work when you read the last part regarding past attempts: \[...\] After more reviews last year, the company had to fix issues with the capsule's parachutes and **remove around a mile (1.6 kilometers) of tape that was found to be flammable**.
"Did you use the tape labeled flammable or inflammable?"
âFlammable, inflammable, and non-inflammableâŚwhy are there three? I mean, either the thing flams or it doesnât flamâ - George Carlin
https://youtu.be/Q8mD2hsxrhQ?si=Hba9qRTXiWMqyzCy
What a country
My favorite is > Starliner's first uncrewed test flight in 2019 was scuppered by a software fault that placed it in the wrong orbit
Suprise mars shuttle service.
Hahaha dear lord
âHey Joe, what happened to all that cheap tape we had for fixing shit around the office?â âUhhâŚ.â
At least the emergency exit hasn't popped out yet. This is the kind of shoddy engineering you expect from a Soviet-era communist tractor factory. I hope it is just Boeing, and not an indicator of American decline.
There's no consequences for the top management decisions that lead up to this situation. Zero accountability and they'll keep wining fat government contracts no matter what. If anything goes wrong they just need to lobby a bit harder and throw a few more millions to the next Presidential campaign on both sides. A company that's crucial to US security and transportation should not be allowed to do stock buybacks and paying 50% salary increases to the CEO in the year they had two fraud lawsuit and severe quality problems.
Have you noticed a trend with companies that are too big and dumb to fail and politics?
Yeah they get worse. Money printing and bailouts make it worse as their is no consequences.
SpaceX was also selected to make a manned space vehicle. They did it far cheaper and have been shuttling astronauts to the space station since Nov 2020, earlier if you count the demo mission which is what Boeing is attempting to complete now. Americans know how to build when there isnât an old, stock market driven corporation around them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX_Dragon_2
I don't like elong at all. Or Tesla. But if SpaceX was public I would buy so much stock it would rival my Microsoft position.
Itâs sign #200,000 of American decline my man
There is a huge difference between a shitty MBA company like Boeing and a company like SpaceX. BTW we are going to see this play out in legacy auto EV vs new company EVs too. A BMW is absolute dogshit compared to a Tesla, Rivian, or Lucid.
Doesnât sound like youâve driven an i4 or i5. Other than that pretty spot on, though.
I'm guessing they were the lowest bidder and NASA had to use at least one contractor other than SpaceX.
Actually youâd be surprised to know Boeing won nearly twice as much for this fixed-price contract ($4.2 billion compared to SpaceXâs $2.6B). Boeing was seen at the time (2014) as the clear #1.
How the turntables
Yeah itâs been quite the fall lol
Someone is still into vinyls, I see.
Naw, someone is into The Office.
My guess where that money went: Boeing execs, sales, and marketing were compensated $4 billion, and only left $0.2 b to build and test the spacecraft.Â
I am, but, not at the same time.
Nope, they were the highest bidder. The lowest bidder also got the contract and has already completed all operational missions, with them launching the current mission Boeing is having issues with 4 years ago in 2020.
Way over budget and way behind. Scary shit if you ask me.
Boeing contract has a fixed budget contract with NASA. So if anything is over budget, Boeing has to pay for it.
And you know exactly what happened there. They tried to skim as much of the fixed price as possible to help the books and sidestepped a metric load of proper engineering design steps.
Thatâs Big Defenseâs Moto. Itâs basically a white collar jobs program.
think they may endup sending a empty dragon up just in case.
Nope. The boeing Starliner costs significantly more than spacex dragon.
All Boeing has to do is play the patriotism card and they get countrywide support That's how they got the contract in the first place. Same with the Air Force tanker program
Boeing will kill the manned space program for 5 years and force SpaceX to not be able to launch astronauts while the government spends the 5 years investigating boeing. Each boeing executive will walk out with more money than all the dead astronauts will make their entire lifetime once the investigation is over.
I sure hope Elons got a ship ready to fly a rescue mission. Time to break Boeing up into a million little pieces. Maybe they can make e-Bikes and e-scooters or something less complicated than airplanes and spaceships.
We don't need our bike paths to become debris fields when the controls inadvertently put an 80yr old in a Dutch roll.
Better than getting stuck in a Dutch oven.
Not as good as doing the Dutch rudder though
Elon said he was going to send a ship, then tweeted out the astronauts were pedophiles.
My king
Elon announced that he was going to the moon with humans leaving orbit in 2017, I just got out of a coma, how did that go? Also, really excited for full self driving which has been out for many years.
black mirror sucks now too
The only other working human spacecraft the US flies is SpaceXâs Dragon, which actually is docked to the ISS right now because it took up the other US ISS crew members currently up there. NASA has paid SpaceX to successfully fly its astronauts on 9 missions so far to ISS since 2020. Literally the only American entity that is capable of human spaceflight besides Boeing is SpaceX. Elonâs kinda an asshole and I donât give a fuck abt Tesla but donât draw all your knowledge from memes bc SpaceX is incredibly competent and by far the most capable space company out there.
Oh? Are you upset that Elon is 5 years late on developing transformative technology for the entire human race? How disappointed you must be. Give me a break.
>I sure hope Elons got a ship ready to fly a rescue mission. Don't worry, he'll probably show up, offer a useless submarine and call Bill Nelson a pedophile for refusing it because it doesn't help. [Reference](https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jul/15/elon-musk-british-diver-thai-cave-rescue-pedo-twitter).
Or you know continue to be Americas only reliable ride into space for a fraction of the cost of all other pretenders.
Yeah, I may think Elon is an insufferable asshat, but SpaceX it putting rockets in space reliably at a breakneck pace. . . I get launch alerts sometimes less than 24 hrs apart for SpaceX rockets. . . Iâm all for competition but clearly SpaceX is the safer and cheaper option so why give Boeing another dime
What app do you use for launch alerts? Sounds pretty cool
I use Next Spaceflight
Clickbait. They have 45 days and minimal issues. Nothing burger.
And they are docked at the International Space Station.
100% clickbait. The issue isn't preventing the astronauts from coming down. It was a problem from when they *came up*. The part they are troubleshooting isn't supposed to survive reentry, so they are staying up in space for a while longer so they can diagnose and study the issue. Because when they decide to head down, the issue may or may not be replicated on the ground.
thruster problem though, it may have a problem getting to reentry.
It's the control modules for the thrusters (used on the way up) that have issues. That module will be jettisoned on the way down so they are trying to learn as much as they can right now. How long they can stay up there is dictated by the leaks. Can't stay too long until the tanks don't have enough juice to get back down.
This should be top comment. But fuck boeing's top management bean counters and their stock price fixation culture for ruining a once great company. We gotta find a way to break the corruption rampant everywhere...
In space, nothing burgers đ can kill you. đ¤Śđźââď¸
Turns out they only sent whistleblowers up
âShArEhOlDeR vAlUe!&$!â AKA they milked the contract and awards for everything that they could knowing that NASA couldnât justify starting over with someone else.
"Stranded in space" is a great headline but unless the SOP on the ISS has changed they have a spare soyuz to get them home if the Starliner ends up being a no go.
Godspeed 
In space no one can hear you whistleblow
Those astronauts had a better chance with a 100 bagger 0dte
Imagine grinding, working hard all your life to make it into the 0.0001% and selected to be an astronaut. Then you find out youâre launching on a Boeing.
I love how their CEO is still there. The balls on that guy.
Elon getting the call
They shouldâve used SpaceX They make it look so easy
after everything that happened, why would you ever trust a boeing spaceship when they cant even build planes.
SpaceX will gladly send a ship to bring them back for half the cost.
Ask Elon for a Ride back to earth đ
I hope their controls aren't like the titan submarine
Worse, it's made by Boeing
Elon looking pretty good now. Bro would be tweeting from space talking shit on Boeing
Praying for their lives? They're in the Space Station. They can live there for months, worst case Space X can send up a taxi for them. A rescue like this has never been done, but you can guarantee it would fire people up to see how quickly they could put one together.
Iâm SHOCKED
Boeing? Inconceivable.
Just remind me how much the CEO of Boeing earned ... What was his year on year salary increase?
Send dragon
Their rockets are clearly as reliable as their 737's
Jesus fucking Christ.  Boeing is basically an onion article
wtf how is this not a bigger story
And all the science, I don't understand.
If its Boing it ain't going.
Stranded on the ISS, so not too bad
I had a sigh of relief when I realised the 777 I was flying in 2 days ago was an old plane.
On Earth: If itâs Boeing, down youâre going. In Space: If itâs Boeing, down youâre not going.
Just lean against the door. Theyâll be back on earth in no time
Execs need to face criminal charges at this point