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How 3%


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Gimme


hereforthewaffle

750+ credit score


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Mine 810 and seeing 5%+


iSOBigD

Your debt, expenses and income may be affecting it


redundant35

Nothing changed in my finances (aside from looking at a new vehicle which we had a payment on last time)Last July I bought a new car .9% apr. My wife wanted to trade in her 6 year old van on a new one. Same bank, same dealership. 5.75%. Rates seriously suck right now. We didn’t buy and will wait to see what the rates do


BlazinAzn38

Yep the only way to get below that it seems is mostly manufacturer promo financing


redundant35

Even promo financing isn’t that great right now from what I say at the dealership. We could’ve gotten a great rate at 36 months. Which would be fantastic but on a 50k vehicle that’s a bit hard to swallow. 60 months is what I like to stay with.


MightyBobo

5-6% is pretty normal at this moment


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I’m seeing like 7-8% here and my debt is a whopping $100 on my cc with credit score of 805-809 depending on what you’re looking at


Yellow_Snow_Cones

830 I got 3.49%


LS-CRX

>Mine 810 and seeing 5%+ The advertised rates are the best available, they won't get lower just because you have a higher credit score... they'll get higher if you have a lower credit score though. i.e. I would qualify for the best rates available, but if someone had a 640 FICO they'd probably qualify for a couple of percent higher APR than the advertised rate.


Dats_Russia

Depending on the level of exclusivity a credit union could potentially offer a rate better than the federal rate. Though even with high exclusivity I am still skeptical anyone within the last month in the USA got a 3% rate


desperate4a_m3

This is through my credit union


platypus_thethird

I recognize this app.. we have the same bank lol


LionGamer2017

the credit union i’ll be using with my new job offers 3.15% in new 60 months as well, but it’s also a credit union only local “government” workers can use and i’m fixing to take advantage of that


a_banned_user

CU is the move. Just bought a new car at 3.75% and the dealers were baffled.


Yellow_Snow_Cones

close I got 3.49% and got a ton of thumbs down on some other sub when I said that.


GeorgeBabyFaceNelson

I'm at 1.99% for 66 months at my credit union. It's a 1 branch credit union and that was how low they went during covid, I got in right before they started raising the rates last year. It was awesome going into dealerships knowing I had a rate that good too, takes away one of their bargaining chips


thomasjbrablec

My credit union starts at 9.85%. This is insane.


CapableRunts

You aren’t assigned to a credit union. You can shop around for loans at different CUs.


Bit_the_Bullitt

Wife just signed a 5.94% yesterday, but that is also on a used, and that's one of the best rates we've found, including credit unions. I guess used vs new is whole different ballgame for rates


KSoMA

What CU?


boshaus

ussfcu does 3.75% on 60mo, less on shorter terms. I just got approved this week. edit: nevermind they just upped their rates


permadrunkspelunk

I'm not them but I got approved for 3% from Austin Telco with a 726 credit score a few months ago


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JasonIvie

Why would that matter nobody cares where your partner works we just wanna not pay 8% with a 740 score


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Sursa

No idea why you're getting down voted for not potentially doxxing yourself now or in the future. It's not like this information will just disappear one day. Your unborn great great grandchildren will be able to read this post if they wanted to. Hi kids! 👋


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firstorbit

You have been on reddit less than a week and have zero posts, only comments. No one is doxxing you. Just give us a clue man.


KSoMA

Fair enough, understandable


BigPK66

Use it when at the dealer, when they offer financing, wait and see what they will give you and then tell them you have your own. It's EXTREMELY likely that they will give you a lower rate than that just so they can keep the financing.


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Or just tell them up front that you have your own financing and will happily finance with them if they can beat it. Being honest and upfront is the best way to do business, don't hide things and waste time


LS-CRX

>Or just tell them up front that you have your own financing and will happily finance with them if they can beat I *always* do this, one time I bluffed (accidentally) and told them I was preapproved for 2 percent (this was years ago) and that I would finance through them if they could beat it. They got me 1.8% so I financed through them... when I got home I realized the preapproval was actually 2.9% not 2%. Whoops. Glad they didn't ask for proof! I've only had ONE time that they couldn't beat a legitimate preapproval, and I financed through USAA instead of the dealership.


1quirky1

But some dealers hide things and waste time. The only way to play this game of theirs is to either play it back or be willing to walk away at any time.


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I hope I never have you as one of my customers if that's the way you approach it.


judgemental_kumquat

I hope to never have you as a salesperson if you don't understand the reputation your 'profession' has earned.


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Fr. Car lots suck ass lmfao. Shouldn’t even be a thing how it is.


1quirky1

The worst thing so far with our current car shopping is my wife visited a Toyota dealer to test drive a new Highlander Platinum and a used Acura MDX, both in their inventory. The sales goon claimed that a Platinum Highlander does not exist then started pushing her away from the used car towards the RAV4. Imagine if she didn’t know exactly what she wanted. Tell me how this goon is helping. Tell me how I should approach this in good faith. Car sales earned their rep. It is up to you to build a better reputation and out the goons.


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Unfortunately we can't get rid of bad salesmen. That's a bad salesman. Automotive sales doesn't require an education and is easily accessible. Future advice, check the dealer reviews and ask for the salesman who has good reviews. Bad salesman don't get reviews.


suitcasecity

Bless your naivety


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I'm not naive. I sell cars. I don't like when people play games, because I'm honest and upfront, I expect the same courtesy.


ShadeTreeMechanic512

Every single time I’ve walked in with an approved loan, the dealer has beat the rate. Pretty sure I always got a better rate than I would have otherwise.


Turbulent_Doctor403

Opposite for me. Past 2 times my local credit union has beat the dealer rate by nearly 2%. I have a 720 credit score and have bought ~5year old used cars typically. Paying 2.74% on a 2016 Cadillac ATS Coupe. Dealer came in at 4.5. This was 2 years ago.


Electronic_Donut4679

Wait how are approved for a 5.24% interest rate if the fed is at 5.25%? That's (very little) free money, right? They're essentially paying you to finance through them, right? Somebody school me. I don't get it.


GolfArgh

Lexus just gave me 4.99%. Couple things can be going on, trying to make sales or guessing later down the line interest rates will be less.


Almighty_Hobo

Moving product and hedging bets on interest rates.


sirwankins

Thats it. They can borrow at lower in the futures curve.


wot_in_ternation

Or they just make up their own financing in order to sell more cars. Slightly better deal on financing = more sales


DirteeCanuck

Ford is at 4.99% where I am. They have their own financing companies and cash on hand so they can do this.


wot_in_ternation

Yeah car companies have been doing this for a long time. Rates were down at like 0.9% in the early 2010s


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Hell, there are dealerships that will do zero percent interest for a significant length of the loan term. They make money selling cars, not just financing them.


wegotsumnewbands

Yea Ford next to me is 0% on new vehicles currently


MrMyagi8bp

Dealerships make very little money in the sales. They make money servicing cars, extended warranties and add ons


1988rx7T2

that was true before the mark ups since 2020, now their margins are pretty high


MrMyagi8bp

Whose posting Mark ups. Never pay a mark up. I paid under msrp 3 weeks ago. The sooner all buyers walk out when presented with Mark ups the sooner it'll all end. Never pay mark ups.


1988rx7T2

tons of people are paying mark ups if it's a brand with a short supply, like Toyota (especially any hybrids, such as all their minivans which are hybrid only now). That doesn't mean it's a good financial decision for the buyer, but lots of dealers are making plenty of money on just selling cars, even now.


wot_in_ternation

Go check it out now. Almost no one is doing 0% financing.


wot_in_ternation

Dealer financing isn't normal financing. 1.9% (or even lower) was a thing for a while around 2014 or so. They bounce around with benefits. Low interest rate OR $2000 off OR some "free" add-ons, etc


bluecheeto13

Lexus struggling for sales rn as they’re lineup is aging fast.


AdvancedBiscotti1

Would you really say that? I’d say if Lexus is struggling for sales, that’s a bigger issue to do with marketing and positioning — the NX is one or two, the RX is brand new, the LX is two or three, and the UX has just had a pretty big update which vaaastly improved its… UX, the biggest complaint about the car.


Violin1990

Yea not sure what he/she is going on about. Sure Lexus’s aren’t everyone’s taste, but they have the top selling luxury vehicle in the US (RX), and are the only brand with 3 cars in the top 10 (NX, ES). For example, the NX hybrids where I’m at still have markups and/or waitlists.


2001ThrowawayM

Subaru is still offering 2.9%-4.9% for well qualified buyers. Ex: 2.9% financing in a new Base model WRX https://www.subaru.com/shopping-tools/special-offers.html


Guac_in_my_rarri

~~Scooby~~ Scoob aka Subaru had to do this because vbs are selling as fast as depends. For once ~~butters~~ buyers are telling ~~Scooby~~ scoob *eat a dick, shit design.* Edit: auto correct got me


TAforScranton

How high are you?


Oldskullgamer

Yes


Guac_in_my_rarri

Unfortunately, not very... I changed keyboards on android and it's not going every well.


Bubbledood

The new wrx is fine. It happens every generation. People say it’s ugly and lacks performance and then the aftermarket comes through and saves the day.


2001ThrowawayM

The outback and crosstrek are Subarus top selling vehicles. And both have financing deals for 3.9% for the 2023 models, and 4.9% for the 2024 models. Also WRX sale numbers are back to where they were pre pandemic, infact February WRX sales were the highest for any February ever. https://www.thedrive.com/news/the-subaru-wrx-hit-record-high-sales-in-february


InsCPA

I got 0.9% from Mazda


Geruvah

Yup. They’re still doing this promotion and might be for a while. It’s even enticing me


poopooplatypus

That’s like 36 months though right? I doubt they’d do that for a full 5 year finance


GMSaaron

I can sell you a new camry for $50,000 at 0% financing for 3 years. Do you get it now?


trees_that_please_2

Why charge many interest when few interest do trick


ShortCommand

I see what you are trying to say. But they aren't frontloading the interest, they are just incentivising sales so that they can move the cars. In 2019 I paid $24,500 for a brand new Camry SE I got approved for 0% interest for 60 months. That $24,500 includes Tax, Tag, and Title fees.


tryme436262

Lmao no, not everyone with a good rate is paying a market adjustment. What a ridiculous statement. I got a 3% rate straight from Toyota under msrp out the door.


americanista915

Dodge giving everyone a 2.9%


queencityrangers

To get them in a Durango


garrett9753

No free money for you, you’re still paying them 5.24% interest on the principal


starkypuppy

I got 2.9% from Subaru and on the paperwork it shows that the borrowed from Chase at 5.9%, so I guess Subaru paid the extra 3 points.


mk1power

Yep it’s called buying down the rate and typically manufacturers do that as an incentive, usually, but not always in lieu of a cash incentive.


Bubbafett33

Mega corps get money cheaper than you and I. Vertically integrated mega corps (ie the finance arm of each manufacturer) also bake in incentives, basically using marketing dollars to buy the rate down a bit extra on models they want to move.


KSoMA

CUs by me are sub 5 right now, not quite sure how that maths out but I'm not complaining.


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-Kazen-

Navy federal is running a special, I just got a 4.74% from them.


WingsFan4Life

I got Subaru loan for 2.9% few months ago


Elymanic

My Mastercard and Amex is giving 3.99 until end of year, so something is definitely up.


Acceptable_Ad1685

Your end Credit card interest has little to nothing with federal reserve rates… Especially promotional rates They collect money from merchant fees as well. Every time money moves someone is collecting a fee to move it.


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fancifinanci

The fed sets the interbank lending rate, not maximum interest rates. There’s no federally legal maximum interest rate. If someone wanted to and you agreed to it, you could legally get a loan with a 5000% APR


TheRealMasterTyvokka

This isn't completely true. Look up usury laws. Some states set specific limits of different types on interest loans.


madcoky

How much cash do you have in hand?


desperate4a_m3

Like 10-20k depending on what I get


dankeedyautistdown

hellcat


milk_man577

then get a 10-20k car


the-bright-one

Oh no! Someone might finance something at an incredibly affordable interest rate! BURN IT ALL DOWN 🔥🔥


milk_man577

Just not the smartest option


the-bright-one

Who cares? Life isn't meant to be about scraping by on the least possible. If you've got savings, if you're happy with your retirement fund, and you've got the money, what difference does it make? Maybe they want to enjoy some road trips, or whatever they do on the weekends without always fixing a busted old car. Yes, it's nice not having payments, but it's also nice being able to afford nice things.


milk_man577

But he can’t afford it


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desperate4a_m3

I already have an emergency cash stash. Im not blowing on my savings on a down payment


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Signal_Quit4190

Why would anyone take a $60k car loan? It is interesting that consumers have voluntarily contributed to increased prices by willing to accept extreme debt.


cannabis_

If you make good money why not?


cc1403

I got 0% on 60k from Ford today.


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Ford…LOL


cc1403

What do you think I should have bought?


fancifinanci

I think your **F**(ix)**O**(r)**R**(epair)**D**(aily) is fine


treym17

Anything else


montanagrizfan

That’s way lower than any rate you will likely get elsewhere. Used car rates are between 7 to 8% for good credit most places and new car rates are about 6 to 7%.


EchidnaReal3827

I would. This is a great APR especially in this market.


desperate4a_m3

Sadly all used cars are overpriced af


dankeedyautistdown

hellcat


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hautdoge

You seem like a great person


Ryphs

You are a huge part of the problem and I sincerely hope you get exactly what you deserve with your next vehicle.


6carecrow

Good for you man, but also it’s not really something to be proud about


graemederoux

Not even remotely anything wrong with this post. If the dealership cared they would extend the warranty, but they won’t. They would fix the car, but they won’t. Then they’ll sell it someone and not disclose anyone and a buyer will be taken advantage of - you’d do the same thing If right now the dealership called you and offered $1000 more than you paid for it.


6carecrow

Yeah, i would do the exact same thing, i wouldn’t brag about it online though and laugh that the next person is getting fucked over


graemederoux

This is not the sellers problem. This is the dealership being shady. They could easily avoid all of these problems and they wont.


MORGBORG_on_YT

May your next car be nothing but an overpriced money pit


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I seriously hope karma gives you a solid ass fucking.


Protomize

And this is why I only buy my cars new and run them into the ground 10+ years later and then repeat. Don't trust used cars because of people like you.


[deleted]

Only some manufacturers are offering decent rates right now. Most are going to be 36 months. You can get .9% on some cars @36 months which is great.


Concerningparrots

Not right now


WingsFan4Life

My dad got 0% 3 yr for an F150


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Yes right now. Just looked at a Sierra over the weekend. 0.9 for 36 months through GM financial


Steve-Ch

I mean while that is a pretty good rate, can you pay off a new Sierra in 36 months? I don’t think many people can.


[deleted]

Id usually buy cash unless the rate is good. Tbf if you can’t pay off a car in 36 months you probably shouldn’t be financing a new car at 60 months…


goudasupreme

but the payments are cheaper! /s


laAspen

Schoolfirst?


desperate4a_m3

Yes why


Television_Original

The only thing I notice is the 16% battery level


Jekkjekk

You don’t need a 60k car straight up


JohnDazFloo

No one needs most things.


Jekkjekk

I suppose I mean it from a standpoint like a 60k car today isn’t worth it so you don’t need one. Buy the same model used, a couple years old, chances are it was probably a leased vehicle and you can get it for a fraction of the price.


strangebrew3522

> Buy the same model used, a couple years old, chances are it was probably a leased vehicle and you can get it for a fraction of the price. Uh yes, hello? 2019 is calling, they want their car buying advice back.


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Outrageous-Dish-5330

Haha, worried about the interest rate but spending $60k on a car


vice-name

He's a postmates driver...insane decision-making


Appropriate-Heat8017

Feds basis is 5.1% that is a great rate. Best I have seen in 3 months


ItsGorgeousGeorge

They dont have to borrow from fed to give you a loan. They can use their own money. Check local credit unions. They tend to have the best rates.


TheLoneGunman559

"Pre-approved" is not the same as approved.


OGMEECHO

Can you elaborate?


GMSaaron

It means a preliminary credit check shows that you can probably get this loan but you won’t know for sure until you apply


BoxofCurveballs

From my experience "pre- approved" means the bank is able to make that offer to you, if you qualify for it.


Ragepower529

Why would you spend 60k on a car in the way the economy is headed right now, I’d honestly wait


coldfusion718

Do you absolutely need a car right now? If you can wait 6-12 months, used car prices will be much lower. Dealerships are just beginning to feel the pain. They got a temporary reprieve from tax refund season.


Just1n510

That’s actually a really good rate in todays market. My coworker just bought a used car at 7.99% with a 780 credit score.


swiftarrow9

Why would you borrow $60,000 for transportation?


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Not terrible given the current economy


johnyoker2010

5.74% jesis christ…


desperate4a_m3

I got the same offer 8 months ago and it was like 3.75 ish


Kleon_da_cat

School's first sent you this too eh


nastyzoot

See what the dealer is offering. Mazda is doing 4.9%.


Skvora

Avoid loans as best you freaking can. With everything.


WicketTheSavior

Please for the love of God don't take out anywhere near a $60k auto loan


SwitchZealousideal21

20/40/60 rule is what I follow regarding car buying process. 20% down for a car 40k or less, for 60 months.


45acp_LS1_Cessna

Take that approval and shop credit unions....5.74% is not good you should really not even be cosnidering it. Don't take too long between shopping around for financing you don't want a ton of inquiries on your credit report.


AmethystAlizarin

I still can't stomach paying more than $15k for a car. They're massive wastes of money. But do you


No-Arm-1479

pro tip: pay the car with credit card no interest 18 months then roll the balance to another creditcard for a 3%fee for another 18 months work a plan finish paying the car in 3 years. also collect 2% with cashback or apple pay Best hack to do nowadays


rasvial

You should take advantage of the stupid high savings rates and not take a loan on a meteorically depreciating asset. But you didn't really want financial advice, you want to spend 60k on a car


desperate4a_m3

I’m already a multi trillionaire bud


dryourmom

Incoming JuSt BuY a MiAta bro


rasvial

Sounds swell pal


ilan1299

Try to negotiated with your dealer, and have this as an Ace in your back pocket. Either to make sure they don't include silly "market adjustment" mark ups or to give you a rate better than what the bank is offering.


HoodFellaz

I always tell people the same thing and I'm sure no one listen to me but oh well, just buy yourself a 8-10 year old Lexus ES, GS or LS for less than half of that and invest the rest of your money somewhere else.


desperate4a_m3

Invest it where? Might just buy a 5k stick shift 350z


LewdDarling

The used rate is ok but if you are buying a brand new car then most makes have incentive financing at 4% or lower


yogfthagen

Pre approved means nothing. You'll spend a day negotiating, they'll come back with their financing, and it'll be a couple points higher because, "they found an issue." Get your own financing. Better yet, pay cash.


No_Location_4749

I just got 2.75 in southeast through toyota financing. So you can absolutely get a better deal from auto manufacturers finance arm. PLEASE REMEMBER You ONLY negotiate price with dealer.


dashercammmmmmm

Just buy a Tesla.


desperate4a_m3

I’m attracted to woman sorry


thecoolerdanny

Lmao gottem


Beneficial-Ad-6846

You need to charge your phone


bagwantakesflight

The best advice I can give you… don’t take out a $60,000 loan on a car


DjaiBee

If you can not finance a depreciating asset that's always better - buy used, and as close to what you can afford to pay cash as possible.


_brookies

You are asking if you should buy a depreciating asset using borrowed money with interest. What do you think.


average_citizen415

Credit union/ work union ? 401k borrow ? Dealership bank option is for people without options


graemederoux

Mid response. My VW rate was better than my bank rate. We got approved for both and took the VW one since it was cheaper! Bank wanted 7% on the used car and VW wanted 6. Not a huge deal but cheaper. The next closest one was 8% at a credit union.


socks_in_loafers

I got my car at 2.69%. try finding a better one tbh


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last year in april


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cap_blueberry

I got a new car in December and this is about the rate I got through the dealer. I think this is about as good of a rate as you can expect. Maybe can get slightly lower through a credit union but it's usually easier to just finance at the dealer and refi later if you can save some money.


biggersjw

Use it as leverage with the dealer(s). “I have this rate, if you can beat it I’ll use you.” They will try since they get a kickback from the finance company.


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desperate4a_m3

Yeah always paid cash for my cars


TaintedFlamingo

Got mine today at 4.49% for 60 months. New Toyota. Was content with it since my credit union was showing 4.88%


HSinvestor

I’m paying 2.9 on a Mazda.


itassofd

Are you buying new? If so, look for manufacturer incentive rates