I have one cat who is only interested in her cat food and meat, which is nice because she lets me eat my vegetarian food in peace. My other cat tries to steal anything I put on my plate (even things like cauliflower and watermelon rind). He's an idiot and has no reference frame for what cats are supposed to eat. He's sad that I won't allow him to eat balloons, aluminum foil, or plastic wrappers, but he also happily eats his cat food.
This comic would be better for cats. The main focus is to ensure your pets are getting the proper nutrients whether it be from meat or not. Cats however require quite a bit of taurine which is sourced from animal products. My cat is on a raw meat diet and loves it, he is very healthy after switching to this from a typical dry/wet food diet as the added carbs and fillers caused him to get urethral blockage which is extremely dangerous for them.
To add: Anyone that can't afford raw meat diet for their kitties should still look for dry/wet food without sugar or grains. Both of these are unneccessary, and detrimental for cats' health.
Switching to a raw food diet is not something you should do lightly or without much consideration as taking more control over your pets diet is an added responsibility that is obviously critical to your pet’s well-being. I agree, finding a good quality food made primarily with whole proteins and with minimal fillers and grains is the easiest, but usually most expensive way to give your pet proper nutrition. ALWAYS read the ingredient list on the food you buy for your pet and try to stay consistent with what you feed. I opted for the raw diet due to my cat’s urinary tract concerns and reaction to foods that I considered to be high quality, but still contained ingredients that were troublesome for him.
If price is a factor on the prepackaged stuff you can get at most pet stores, check your local butcher shops. Mine makes cat food from raw meat, organs, and raw bones that is really affordable since it’s trimmings and things they can’t sell easily but are great for your cats. It’s important to check online as you’ll likely need to add some additional supplementation like for some vitamins like B and E, minerals, taurine (if the meat is low in organ content, particularly liver,) bone meal, egg, etc. I would take about 5 lbs of the butchers raw cat food, add the supplements based on a recipe I followed, mix them together and make pattie’s to freeze. It’s pretty messy and kinda icky but with a little bit of prep time, it’s actually quite affordable when you compare the price to the higher end processed pet foods. I’ve since moved onto packaged frozen raw food for convenience and freezer space.
For my cats, I've switched to Orijen Original Cat (before called Cat and Kitten). While the price is more than twice per kg as the fiod they ate before, they also eat less (at least after the first week). So in terms of price per meal, the costs have only gone up a little bit.
So people who aren't switching over due to the increased costs, I'd say to give it a go for a month or so.
I’ll be honest. I pay about $80 a month on food for my one cat. The brands I’m most familiar with for raw food are Small Batch Cat and Vital Essentials. Orijen has been a big name I’ve heard around but not one I’ve had experience with personally.
How did you get your cat off of dry food / Biscuits? We have an older cat who gets frequent cystitis and a younger cat who’s overweight (but not from wet food consumption) and we’re looking to wean off biscuits. Is it a case of going cold turkey or weaning their availability?
You always want to transition a pet to a new food. This is usually done by ratio over a period of 1-2 weeks. Simply by adding about 10% of the food you’re trying to introduce to the pets meal and slowly incorporating more of it into their diet as feedings progress. You’ll want to do this as slowly as your pet can tolerate to aid them in digestion. Also, if they’re not already, I recommend getting them on a feeding schedule. 2-3 meals a day of a recommended serving size at regular times (your cats will certainly let you know if it is approaching feeding time).
Cats are particularly tricky because of their pickiness. My cat really only prefers turkey or chicken as a protein and is not fond of red meats, rabbit or duck. That being said, even if you’re transitioning foods properly, your cats just might not be into it. You can also try to incorporate lightly cooked meat with no seasoning into their normal diet to get them more used to consuming it if they are not keen to it at first.
I forgot to mention toppers are always an option if you’re needing to entice them. Freeze dried crumble options or broths are around. Just put them on top or mix it in and they can get them going.
Agreed. This meme would be accurate for cats only. Dogs are omnivores and live healthy lives with a vegetarian diet (not sure about vegan though). You still need to make sure they get all nutrition in proper amounts but to be honest, there are millions of dogs in mainly south asian countries like India and Nepal where dogs not only survive but thrive on vegetarian diet as the humans themselves never touch meat.
The short answer is that taurine is not found naturally in plants with the exception of like a specific algae. It can be synthetically created as well, however, so the long answer is that there are foods and people promoting vegan diets for cats with vegan taurine, but in my experience I would never feed my cat a food that is primarily soy, corn and wheat based. These foods trigger crystals to form in my cat’s bladder that can cause painful and life-threatening issues. I would also wonder why someone would promote this, as cats are evolved to eat and digest meat and do not naturally eat those other foods as opposed to dogs which will happily eat fruits and veggies and can synthesize taurine from other amino acids like people can. I’ve seen the comparison that it would be like trying to feed a cow a diet of meat. Technically nothing is impossible, but it just doesn’t make a lot of sense to do it.
Well, we already made an unnatural switch for the cow. A lot of them are now eating corn and soy in order to boost their productivity. I don't know the tradeoff between economy/quality/environmental impact though, but if people did it, it's because there was a good reason. Now why would we change the cats diet if it's unnatural? Well, beside the "call to nature fallacy", the environmental impact of their meat diet is huge. Between letting the climate burn and not having cat anymore, I really hope we could find a way to feed them that doesn't compromise our own survival as a society.
My 14 year old Schnauzer is also allergic to basically all meats and has a special vegetarian diet the vet prescribed. She is very healthy, altho has gained a bit of weight in her senior years.
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Maybe because only Vegans force their pets to eat vegan too. Dont really see non vegans forcing their cats and dogs to eat a vegan diet. Yes cats do actually need meat, but dogs really should be eating meat if theyre healthy. Most western dogs arent all that healthy because weve bread them so horribly. Regardless, Dogs can eat vegetables, they are capable of digesting them, but to go without meat requires very careful monitoring of their intake to make sure theyre getting the energy and protein they should be getting.
Thoughts on non-vegans funding the forcing of the overwhelming majority of omnivorous pigs and chickens onto a vegan grain/soybean/canola-fed diet for their entire miserable life?
Chickens evolved to eat bamboo seeds in southeast asia. They can eat meat the same way you can a marine motor on straight gas, it can be done but it wont be efficient or pleasant.
And pigs are not usually fed a pure gain diet. Pigs are fed a mix silage of corn and soy for filler mixed with discarded meat products. But thats regardless of the fact that Pigs are not dogs or cats. Dogs and Cats are carnivorous ominores in that they can eat plants but really should have meat to maintain a healthy diet. Pigs are herboric omnivores, they can eat meat, but their natural diet usually consists of plants. Berkshires are even famous for rooting.
Im not even gonna address the vegan assertion that there is no difference between pets and livestock. Thats a moral debate whos answer lies squarly in the respective belief systems. Purely on feeding and grazing, youre incorrect.
> Chickens evolved to eat bamboo seeds in southeast asia. They can eat meat the same way you can a marine motor on straight gas, it can be done but it wont be efficient or pleasant.
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> Chickens are omnivores.[26] In the wild, they often scratch at the soil to search for seeds, insects, and even animals as large as lizards, small snakes,[27] or sometimes young mice.
They evolved to eat seeds, alongside a host of other things that you chose to omit. If it were so unpleasant for the chicken, they wouldn't opt to do so of their own volition.
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> And pigs are not usually fed a pure gain diet. Pigs are fed a mix silage of corn and soy for filler mixed with discarded meat products.
The vast majority of pig feed is comprised of grain and soybean/canola-meal; the discarded meat products you point to are not at all standardized constituents and make up a tiny proportion thrown in only as a cost-cutting measure, not for satisfying the nutritional well-being of the pig. In many countries, it is illegal to serve these to pigs altogether. If anywhere near the same negligible proportion of animal food were to be fed to dogs, you would be in an uproar crying vegan animal abuse.
> Dogs and Cats are carnivorous ominores in that they can eat plants but really should have meat to maintain a healthy diet.
"Carnivorous omnirores" is not a term. Cats, whom you brought up out of nowhere and whom I did not argue should be fed a plant-based diet, are obligate carnivores, not omnivores. Dogs are facultative omnivores. There is a multitude of selective adaptations, including increased amylase production, that distinguish omnivorous dogs from their carnivorous wolf ancestors. Regardless of which sub-classification you raise, both pigs and dogs are omnivorous.
> Pigs are herboric omnivores, they can eat meat, but their natural diet usually consists of plants. Berkshires are even famous for rooting.
"Herboric" isn't a term, nor is "herbivoric omnivore," which is what you're alluding to, a legitimate and recognized distinction. While they primarily forage in nature, pigs are omnivores and are thus being fed naturally incompatible meals, full stop.
> Im not even gonna address the vegan assertion that there is no difference between pets and livestock.
The recognition that "livestock" have the same capacity for a subjective experience as pets isn't a "vegan assertion," it's scientific fact. You're not going to address it, because you can't address it without conceding that chastising vegan pet owners for animal abuse as you throw down another strip of bacon makes you a massive hypocrite.
And there we go. Exactly why I never addressed it. Because you vegans are just moral grandstanders. Vegans owning pets at all is itself hypocrisy. Owning a pet is establishing a hierarchy with the owner at the top, they are your play things. See I can use hyperbole too. The righteous indignation oozing of Vegans is the reason everyone hates you people.
Why do you even get into situations where you're told that? And how? And why so often? What the fuck man. You're looking for these encounters. Or, make them up. Either way, you love being angry. Why?
That’s funny because now I’m laughing at yours!
Look how mad you are that I wasn’t nice to people who call everyone they don’t like a murderer!
It’s really funny.
Maybe the tantrum killed your neurons, because I didn't say anything about 'treating nice' anyone. You really have vegans living rent free in your head.
I understand why some people go vegan, but we do have sharp teeth for a reason
that being: we are supposed to eat meat
I understand if you don't eat meat for spiritual, religious or allergy reasons, but meat is important for health. red meats, such as salami or liver, contain iron (yes the metal) which seriously helps red blood cells.
also, natural sugar is found in great quantities in fruits, such as apples
I'm not telling anyone "eat lots of meat" or "stop eating so many fruits and veg", but it would help to eat meat at least once a week, if you're going vegan or vegetarian
just sain': it's healthier to eat at least some meat
Like that one vid of the chick laying out a salad and a steak to prove that her dog was vegan by choice lmao fucker went straight for the meat and she's like "h-hey buddy, don't you want your salad?"
There are as many stupid vegans as there are stupid anti vegans. This cartoon was properly used for spreading missleading Information, thats why it is not wrong to say it is anti vegan rant.
To make it clear: Many Pets (including Dogs) have no Problem with living vegan, it might be harder to maintain a good vegan diet for them.
Other Pets like cats are carnivors, so you cannot maintain a vegan diet for them, without causing health problems, no matter how vegan you are.
Also cats aren't actually pets.
My great grandma only fed her pomeranian green beans and vitamins lmao. Not sure if he had a medical condition or if she just didnt want a fat lil sausage of a dog
I dont wanna sound cruel, but its hard for me to imagine a diet winout meat, its hard to work in a diet of not meat, and it really doesnt stop the companies from producing, plus im argentinian and here in my country the meat is soo good i just cant leave it, and also im kinda villianous so >:)
You don't have to have a cat or a dog-you choose to have one for your own entertainment. Therefore, you choose to support the torture and butchering of cows and other animals that are turned into food for dogs/cats. If you really cared about animals enough to go vegan, you wouldn't breed or keep dogs/cats. It's no different than people eating meat-to the cow it does not matter why it dies and suffers-it dies, and suffers, for the dog, which is for your entertainment.
This is just factually inaccurate. Not even cats need meat. They need protein and taurine. No animal requires one specific source of nutrients. My cats have been eating plant based cat food for years and their vet always comments on how healthy their blood work is and how shiny their coats are.
The cows and pigs that were slaughtered cruelly in factory farms to make their grey petfood died horrifically and painfully screaming from metal cages but hey, your lil codependent beepboopooperdoopers is happywappy and that’s all that matters you willfully-ignorant non-thinking children
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I have one cat who is only interested in her cat food and meat, which is nice because she lets me eat my vegetarian food in peace. My other cat tries to steal anything I put on my plate (even things like cauliflower and watermelon rind). He's an idiot and has no reference frame for what cats are supposed to eat. He's sad that I won't allow him to eat balloons, aluminum foil, or plastic wrappers, but he also happily eats his cat food.
This comic would be better for cats. The main focus is to ensure your pets are getting the proper nutrients whether it be from meat or not. Cats however require quite a bit of taurine which is sourced from animal products. My cat is on a raw meat diet and loves it, he is very healthy after switching to this from a typical dry/wet food diet as the added carbs and fillers caused him to get urethral blockage which is extremely dangerous for them.
To add: Anyone that can't afford raw meat diet for their kitties should still look for dry/wet food without sugar or grains. Both of these are unneccessary, and detrimental for cats' health.
Switching to a raw food diet is not something you should do lightly or without much consideration as taking more control over your pets diet is an added responsibility that is obviously critical to your pet’s well-being. I agree, finding a good quality food made primarily with whole proteins and with minimal fillers and grains is the easiest, but usually most expensive way to give your pet proper nutrition. ALWAYS read the ingredient list on the food you buy for your pet and try to stay consistent with what you feed. I opted for the raw diet due to my cat’s urinary tract concerns and reaction to foods that I considered to be high quality, but still contained ingredients that were troublesome for him. If price is a factor on the prepackaged stuff you can get at most pet stores, check your local butcher shops. Mine makes cat food from raw meat, organs, and raw bones that is really affordable since it’s trimmings and things they can’t sell easily but are great for your cats. It’s important to check online as you’ll likely need to add some additional supplementation like for some vitamins like B and E, minerals, taurine (if the meat is low in organ content, particularly liver,) bone meal, egg, etc. I would take about 5 lbs of the butchers raw cat food, add the supplements based on a recipe I followed, mix them together and make pattie’s to freeze. It’s pretty messy and kinda icky but with a little bit of prep time, it’s actually quite affordable when you compare the price to the higher end processed pet foods. I’ve since moved onto packaged frozen raw food for convenience and freezer space.
For my cats, I've switched to Orijen Original Cat (before called Cat and Kitten). While the price is more than twice per kg as the fiod they ate before, they also eat less (at least after the first week). So in terms of price per meal, the costs have only gone up a little bit. So people who aren't switching over due to the increased costs, I'd say to give it a go for a month or so.
I’ll be honest. I pay about $80 a month on food for my one cat. The brands I’m most familiar with for raw food are Small Batch Cat and Vital Essentials. Orijen has been a big name I’ve heard around but not one I’ve had experience with personally.
How did you get your cat off of dry food / Biscuits? We have an older cat who gets frequent cystitis and a younger cat who’s overweight (but not from wet food consumption) and we’re looking to wean off biscuits. Is it a case of going cold turkey or weaning their availability?
You always want to transition a pet to a new food. This is usually done by ratio over a period of 1-2 weeks. Simply by adding about 10% of the food you’re trying to introduce to the pets meal and slowly incorporating more of it into their diet as feedings progress. You’ll want to do this as slowly as your pet can tolerate to aid them in digestion. Also, if they’re not already, I recommend getting them on a feeding schedule. 2-3 meals a day of a recommended serving size at regular times (your cats will certainly let you know if it is approaching feeding time). Cats are particularly tricky because of their pickiness. My cat really only prefers turkey or chicken as a protein and is not fond of red meats, rabbit or duck. That being said, even if you’re transitioning foods properly, your cats just might not be into it. You can also try to incorporate lightly cooked meat with no seasoning into their normal diet to get them more used to consuming it if they are not keen to it at first.
Thank you!
I forgot to mention toppers are always an option if you’re needing to entice them. Freeze dried crumble options or broths are around. Just put them on top or mix it in and they can get them going.
Agreed. This meme would be accurate for cats only. Dogs are omnivores and live healthy lives with a vegetarian diet (not sure about vegan though). You still need to make sure they get all nutrition in proper amounts but to be honest, there are millions of dogs in mainly south asian countries like India and Nepal where dogs not only survive but thrive on vegetarian diet as the humans themselves never touch meat.
Why would it be impossible to produce vegan cat food with taurine sourced from plant ?
The short answer is that taurine is not found naturally in plants with the exception of like a specific algae. It can be synthetically created as well, however, so the long answer is that there are foods and people promoting vegan diets for cats with vegan taurine, but in my experience I would never feed my cat a food that is primarily soy, corn and wheat based. These foods trigger crystals to form in my cat’s bladder that can cause painful and life-threatening issues. I would also wonder why someone would promote this, as cats are evolved to eat and digest meat and do not naturally eat those other foods as opposed to dogs which will happily eat fruits and veggies and can synthesize taurine from other amino acids like people can. I’ve seen the comparison that it would be like trying to feed a cow a diet of meat. Technically nothing is impossible, but it just doesn’t make a lot of sense to do it.
Well, we already made an unnatural switch for the cow. A lot of them are now eating corn and soy in order to boost their productivity. I don't know the tradeoff between economy/quality/environmental impact though, but if people did it, it's because there was a good reason. Now why would we change the cats diet if it's unnatural? Well, beside the "call to nature fallacy", the environmental impact of their meat diet is huge. Between letting the climate burn and not having cat anymore, I really hope we could find a way to feed them that doesn't compromise our own survival as a society.
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My pup's got the same issue, her favorite is cucumbers! She goes nuts when you pull one out of the fridge!
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I have 7 dogs, one loves veggies…one gets a lot of extra treats.
My 14 year old Schnauzer is also allergic to basically all meats and has a special vegetarian diet the vet prescribed. She is very healthy, altho has gained a bit of weight in her senior years.
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Cats need meat. Dogs don't, but you need to make sure they're getting proper nutrition.
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Maybe because only Vegans force their pets to eat vegan too. Dont really see non vegans forcing their cats and dogs to eat a vegan diet. Yes cats do actually need meat, but dogs really should be eating meat if theyre healthy. Most western dogs arent all that healthy because weve bread them so horribly. Regardless, Dogs can eat vegetables, they are capable of digesting them, but to go without meat requires very careful monitoring of their intake to make sure theyre getting the energy and protein they should be getting.
Thoughts on non-vegans funding the forcing of the overwhelming majority of omnivorous pigs and chickens onto a vegan grain/soybean/canola-fed diet for their entire miserable life?
Chickens evolved to eat bamboo seeds in southeast asia. They can eat meat the same way you can a marine motor on straight gas, it can be done but it wont be efficient or pleasant. And pigs are not usually fed a pure gain diet. Pigs are fed a mix silage of corn and soy for filler mixed with discarded meat products. But thats regardless of the fact that Pigs are not dogs or cats. Dogs and Cats are carnivorous ominores in that they can eat plants but really should have meat to maintain a healthy diet. Pigs are herboric omnivores, they can eat meat, but their natural diet usually consists of plants. Berkshires are even famous for rooting. Im not even gonna address the vegan assertion that there is no difference between pets and livestock. Thats a moral debate whos answer lies squarly in the respective belief systems. Purely on feeding and grazing, youre incorrect.
> Chickens evolved to eat bamboo seeds in southeast asia. They can eat meat the same way you can a marine motor on straight gas, it can be done but it wont be efficient or pleasant. - > Chickens are omnivores.[26] In the wild, they often scratch at the soil to search for seeds, insects, and even animals as large as lizards, small snakes,[27] or sometimes young mice. They evolved to eat seeds, alongside a host of other things that you chose to omit. If it were so unpleasant for the chicken, they wouldn't opt to do so of their own volition. --- > And pigs are not usually fed a pure gain diet. Pigs are fed a mix silage of corn and soy for filler mixed with discarded meat products. The vast majority of pig feed is comprised of grain and soybean/canola-meal; the discarded meat products you point to are not at all standardized constituents and make up a tiny proportion thrown in only as a cost-cutting measure, not for satisfying the nutritional well-being of the pig. In many countries, it is illegal to serve these to pigs altogether. If anywhere near the same negligible proportion of animal food were to be fed to dogs, you would be in an uproar crying vegan animal abuse. > Dogs and Cats are carnivorous ominores in that they can eat plants but really should have meat to maintain a healthy diet. "Carnivorous omnirores" is not a term. Cats, whom you brought up out of nowhere and whom I did not argue should be fed a plant-based diet, are obligate carnivores, not omnivores. Dogs are facultative omnivores. There is a multitude of selective adaptations, including increased amylase production, that distinguish omnivorous dogs from their carnivorous wolf ancestors. Regardless of which sub-classification you raise, both pigs and dogs are omnivorous. > Pigs are herboric omnivores, they can eat meat, but their natural diet usually consists of plants. Berkshires are even famous for rooting. "Herboric" isn't a term, nor is "herbivoric omnivore," which is what you're alluding to, a legitimate and recognized distinction. While they primarily forage in nature, pigs are omnivores and are thus being fed naturally incompatible meals, full stop. > Im not even gonna address the vegan assertion that there is no difference between pets and livestock. The recognition that "livestock" have the same capacity for a subjective experience as pets isn't a "vegan assertion," it's scientific fact. You're not going to address it, because you can't address it without conceding that chastising vegan pet owners for animal abuse as you throw down another strip of bacon makes you a massive hypocrite.
And there we go. Exactly why I never addressed it. Because you vegans are just moral grandstanders. Vegans owning pets at all is itself hypocrisy. Owning a pet is establishing a hierarchy with the owner at the top, they are your play things. See I can use hyperbole too. The righteous indignation oozing of Vegans is the reason everyone hates you people.
Vegans have the market cornered on hating people for their diet choices, so it’s kind of hard to feel bad for them.
I say more people shit on vegans, than vegans shitting on others tbh
Nobody would care about vegans if they weren’t constantly being condescending jerks who call you a murderer for eating a cheeseburger.
Can you show me on the Teddy where the vegans hurt you? Lmao
That’s such a stale response you’re the second person who said it to me today. I guess the lack of protein just ruined your ability to recognize wit.
Why do you even get into situations where you're told that? And how? And why so often? What the fuck man. You're looking for these encounters. Or, make them up. Either way, you love being angry. Why?
Prof here should be working on a cinema with the amount of projection he is doing.
It's not even projection really just pure confrontation seeking for the sake of it.
I talk shit about vegans, who can’t handle a taste of their own medicine. Look at how worked up about it you are.
'the market cornered' my dude the vegans make less than 1% of the market. Lol
I’m glad you added the lol at the end because I wouldn’t have known you were trying to be funny.
Not trying to be funny. I am laughing at your tantrum.
That’s funny because now I’m laughing at yours! Look how mad you are that I wasn’t nice to people who call everyone they don’t like a murderer! It’s really funny.
Maybe the tantrum killed your neurons, because I didn't say anything about 'treating nice' anyone. You really have vegans living rent free in your head.
At this point you’ve talked more about my one comment than I’ve talked about vegans.
Really? This again?...
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Same with grass fed chickens
I understand why some people go vegan, but we do have sharp teeth for a reason that being: we are supposed to eat meat I understand if you don't eat meat for spiritual, religious or allergy reasons, but meat is important for health. red meats, such as salami or liver, contain iron (yes the metal) which seriously helps red blood cells. also, natural sugar is found in great quantities in fruits, such as apples I'm not telling anyone "eat lots of meat" or "stop eating so many fruits and veg", but it would help to eat meat at least once a week, if you're going vegan or vegetarian just sain': it's healthier to eat at least some meat
Like that one vid of the chick laying out a salad and a steak to prove that her dog was vegan by choice lmao fucker went straight for the meat and she's like "h-hey buddy, don't you want your salad?"
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Anti-vegans are redundant, because actual vegans do their job for them.
There are as many stupid vegans as there are stupid anti vegans. This cartoon was properly used for spreading missleading Information, thats why it is not wrong to say it is anti vegan rant. To make it clear: Many Pets (including Dogs) have no Problem with living vegan, it might be harder to maintain a good vegan diet for them. Other Pets like cats are carnivors, so you cannot maintain a vegan diet for them, without causing health problems, no matter how vegan you are. Also cats aren't actually pets.
Also cats aren't actually pets. Because they're fluffy fluid
Thank you for proving my point!
Unless your dog can't eat meat for various reasons, it's best to keep a meat diet.
My great grandma only fed her pomeranian green beans and vitamins lmao. Not sure if he had a medical condition or if she just didnt want a fat lil sausage of a dog
Dogs don't need "meat", and are perfectly capable of thriving on a vegan diet.
Health outcome data where?
Waiting for the "akcschyually, dogs can eat vegan food, you are animal rapist" types to appear...
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I dont wanna sound cruel, but its hard for me to imagine a diet winout meat, its hard to work in a diet of not meat, and it really doesnt stop the companies from producing, plus im argentinian and here in my country the meat is soo good i just cant leave it, and also im kinda villianous so >:)
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Humans need meat also🍗🍖🥩
You don't have to have a cat or a dog-you choose to have one for your own entertainment. Therefore, you choose to support the torture and butchering of cows and other animals that are turned into food for dogs/cats. If you really cared about animals enough to go vegan, you wouldn't breed or keep dogs/cats. It's no different than people eating meat-to the cow it does not matter why it dies and suffers-it dies, and suffers, for the dog, which is for your entertainment.
This is just factually inaccurate. Not even cats need meat. They need protein and taurine. No animal requires one specific source of nutrients. My cats have been eating plant based cat food for years and their vet always comments on how healthy their blood work is and how shiny their coats are.
The cows and pigs that were slaughtered cruelly in factory farms to make their grey petfood died horrifically and painfully screaming from metal cages but hey, your lil codependent beepboopooperdoopers is happywappy and that’s all that matters you willfully-ignorant non-thinking children
Think of them as NPCs if it helps.
Liberal logic. Daf
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