I wonder what would happen if Kirby just ate the whole thing. It's supposed to reflect attacks, so that would be an interesting interaction if Kirby just swallowed it whole with hypernova.
I disagree I think the Kirby universe is strong because there is Kirby and in the same way Jojo with go beyond ger,wonder of u or act4 is stronger than most because of that.
Well it's more complicated they are more like a universal base from what we can tell with void termina.
They are like born of the emotions of people of the universe and Kirby seems like the strongest.
I feel like people missed the fact that Go Beyond was still just a slow moving bubble, and only really useful in specific circumstances, like countering Wonder of U. But even a normal human could just... step out of the way.
Ong a lot of people like to “scale” go beyond to like “outerversal” whatever that means but in reality it wouldn’t even kill a normal person if it hits
People like to scale feats on how quantumy they are instead of on how actually useful they are. I've seen people call GB > Infinite Rotation, as in TA4's bullets. These are NOT WORKING THE SAME, they're used for TWO DIFFERENT SCENARIOS AND APPLIED DIFFERENTLY. It's what some powerscalers do NOT get about JoJo, it's not linear, it's not "X beats Y, and Y beats Z, so X must beat Z". 90% of Stands, including Star Platinum, could not survive C-moon's punches were they to hit directly, Jolyne is able to survive them and stand on equal ground, this doesn't mean that Jolyne solos 90% of Stands, and definitely not Star Platinum.
So when you hear people call something "outerversal" and shit, pay no attention to it, focus on how it can actually be applied.
I can fart and my fart can go across dimensions and reach God's face, yet it's still a fart, and I'm still fighting someone in one dimension, regardless of how dimensionally amazing and cosmic it is, it's not doing shit in a fight.
>So when you hear people call something "outerversal" and shit, pay no attention to it, focus on how it can actually be applied.
Also focus on how it is used in the media in question. A "light" based attack does not necessarily move at the speed of light, and something which bends dimensions somewhat does not actually mean the character has any dimension warping abilities, or scales to that level.
Even more than most media, powerscaling Jojo is also weird because fate directly controls stand powers. So removing them from context is kinda pointless. Josuk8 has Go Beyond *because* his end antagonist was Wonder of U, so taking him out of that setting is like trying to bake a cake on a grill with a spatula. If he had a different antagonist, he would have also had a different stand.
I feel like people forget that Kirby is a baby and his first instinct when met with something unfamiliar is to try eating it, and it begs the question of what happens when you try to eat something that both does and doesn't exist. Would he swallow up the bubble no issue or would it take him out on the spot? Either it's entirely effective or entirely ineffective. I just happen to think it's effective
If they're not canon, they're not part of the verse. It's like going to a Dragon Ball thread of someone asking who would win against Black Frieza and pulling out Abridged Popo through his "Pecking Order" thing. Sure, one's a parody, and one's an actual manga, but they're both still ultimately fan creations, and not canon to their respective series.
Eyes of Heaven, yes, I'll agree with you on that. Araki is confirmed to have made the covers of Jorge Joestar, but as far as I can tell most websites say that's as far as it goes. In fact, TVTropes and a link to Amino Apps(can't view it presumably because I'm using a VPN, but it could just be down entirely) are really the only two places I've seen say Araki drew the panels for Jorge Joestar.
Kirby a strange one his defensive are way higher then his offensive. Like he natural
Can take hits in fight universe ending dark gods but usually needs special weapon to hurt them
Maybe One-Punch Man, he'd clear most of them, but high tiers like Garou, Saitama and God (who is featless rn but come on, he's God.) would give him trouble
God does have feats
Giving garou his power
Which, was not in full as garou barely touched his hand and was still able to fight toe to toe with saitama for a time and even surpassed the version of saitama that started the fight
So its safe to assume god has serious power probably more than saitama
Actually, Kirby might actually be at Saitama. Kirby has hit baseballs so hard they go over 10000 light-years per second, meaning that's at least how strong he is.
It *is effective.* For a bit, the Hero Killer was able to keep Baldie on the back foot. The problem was that he seems to grow exponentially in relation to his goal.. beating the Hero Killer in this case.
I mean he became so powerful from the scaling that he punched… *backwards in time?*
Don’t you love it when Kirby can destroy multiple planets by accelerating a meteor to tens of thousands of time the speed of light, yet a funny cat egg thing building an amusement park is too far out of canon and requires a canon AU
>yet a funny cat egg thing building an amusement park is too far out of canon and requires a canon AU
Even funnier when you consider that this is the same game that retroactively makes the kirby clash series canon (in a sense), so HAL thinks that Magolor getting isekai'd into a medieval land with four kirbies and then kickstarting capitalism in there is perfectly reasonable, but him building an amusement park is way too far fetched.
I'm hesitant to give Kirby the W for a few reasons. We know that Saitama will grow stronger in response to people copying his abilities, and Kirby doesn't really have a way to counter that. Plus, it's difficult to judge how Saitama would interact with Kirby and his abilities. We know he can resist Telekinesis, though that's more of a Tatsumaki antifeat. So would he get sucked up by inhale or hypernova? And even if he wasn't immune, would he be fast enough to just outrun it? As far as I know, Kirby doesn't really have an answer to Saitama's growth
Scaling Kirby is disastrous because on one hand you got people who wank him to hell and back because of a single statement of him having infinite power and on how a bunch of Kirby final bosses are kinda gods, while on the other hand there's people who swear up and down that he would die if you dropped an apple on him.
The latest Kirby game has the villain moving a planet lmao. He’s not outerversal or anything like that but downplaying him because of a game’s presentation is silly
No? It’s not that at all. The feats in DOOM are extremely vague, off screen, and has no indication of his actual attack power.
There is a direct, on screen cutscene where the final point of the game is that Fecto Elfilis is going to merge Planet Popstar with his planet. The OST for that moment is literally “Two Planets Approach the Roche Limit”. If you think that’s illogical, then I guess no DBZ characters are planet busting because the only one who does that on screen is Frieza lol. Breaking news: Goku confirmed wall level.
When a character fights a character who can do something, takes attacks from the same power the character used to do said thing, and is generally of the same power level as that thing, then they are considered to be that strong. First Form Frieza blows up a planet. Anyone as strong as him is Planet level. Fecto Elfilis moves a planet with telekinesis, on screen, and uses the full force of the same telekinesis to attack Kirby. Not Planet level? I sense bias
Also, one of that guy's attacks is called "fermi paradox's answer" which seems to imply that he had singlehandedly wiped out (at bare minimum) every single alien planet that could be seen by humans, and kirby defeated that guy (nearly) by himself! (Sure, they got some help at the very end, but by that point the guy was already melting so it doesn't really matter)
>"The name of his attack is Fermi Paradox therefore he is galactic+"
Can Chrom or Lucina control the Sun and Moon because they can use Sol and Luna? Byleth using the Sword of the Creator? What about solar system Sephiroth and Supernova, at least that has an animation. Can random humans in Dota tank black holes and supernovas because there's Black Hole and Supernova abilities that cannot one-shot, which also have animations?
I feel like that's a bit different since those would be huge outliers compared to what those characters usually do, while Elfilis has already been shown to be perfectly capable of taking down entire planets (the tour guide mentions him having destroyed a sizable chunk of the world before getting captured and his final attack almost destroyed two planets at once.) So him being the reason behind the fermi paradox says a lot less about his strength and a lot more about his dedication and his infamy, which makes it way funnier that kirby turned the guy into roadkill as if he were nothing.
He probably is arround star level because ALOT of Kirby villains make usage of black holes. So certainly not weak but holy shit is it a step down from what most people think it is
So this is essentially the weakest character Kirby couldn’t kill, since if one named character in a verse can’t be killed the verse wins.
With that out of the way, IIRC Kirby has never been able to inhale ghosts, so the weakest verse that has ghosts and no ability to kill them wins.
I forget the Casper franchise a lot, but I think I remember someone making something that could kill ghosts or turn them back into mortals so theoretically they could then be consumed.
If that's the case while base Kirby I don't think could kill Casper, after he's inhaled the thing that can handle ghosts, he then could take out Casper.
It's been a while since I saw the original Casper movie but didn't Casper or one of his uncles get sucked up by a vacuum cleaner at least temporarily? If so Kirby might be able to trap them but idk about dealing anything but maybe psychological damage.
kirby doesn’t need to inhale someone to kill them. Infact, he can’t inhale most people in his own verse. As long as there was a way to harm the ghosts, Kirbys doing just fine.
Kirby never swallows (giggity) in that universe. He pulls punches as a sign of respect by releasing foes after copying them.
In every other game/Manga etc, the thing is destroyed.
The thing isn't always destroyed.
And it's not only kirby pulling his punches. The likes of Isabelle should not be able to harm Cloud, Link or Shulk. and Olimar should be too tiny to even take note of.
No the hell you haven't. The very first Smash Bros. game makes it perfectly clear that every "character" is really a kid's toy replica of that character that he is making fight each other.
Any game in which he’s not the protagonist. I feel like people underestimate the degree to which kirby has protagonism on his side, and he almost always needs some kind of power up that he doesn’t have natively to take on the finale.
From the cutscenes it seems to imply Dedede, Meta Knight, and a waddle dee were there for the entire Return to Dreamland game. So I’d reckon canonically the four of them beat Magolor together.
True, but that just means they all scale to him, or at least in the ball park of him. Like even if kirby is 1/4th Magolor that is pretty impressive given what Magolor does. And Elifis is even more so, and Kirby did do that one alone
Magolor is more impressive than Elfilis. Magolor Soul was moving stars in the background and collapsed Another Dimension.
Although, to Elfilis's credit, he has the only Planet Level feat in Kirby that really isn't debatable. You can't downplay moving a planet with telekenesis lol
Isn’t Void Termina stronger? It took Kirby, three Star Allies, and the Star Allies Sparkler to kill him. Meanwhile just Kirby and Elfilin were enough for Elfilis. Also, Meta Knight resisted his mind control unlike the Jamba Hearts.
Except the 3 other people of a similar power level and 4 dragons that already barely beat magolor on his own (with the same thing that makes magolor powerful now tbf) before the start, but yes without outside help
Kirby literally cannot even scratch Magolor's star barrier without Super Abilities summoned by, know who? *Magolor himself*
Oh and Ultra Sword is "supposedly" Planet cleaving based on Battle Royale, so Magolor's nigh unbreakable barrier only has planet durability... and well, that does not speak well for Kirb.
I thought that was the point. You only even have a CHANCE of beating him if he's not the mc. Is that not the reasoning behind all his feats and stuff. They never give any reasoning for how strong he is. He's just always hitting as hard as he needs to regardless of the situation.
>truth would be impossible for him to kill.
Why would he need to? Why would a concept count towards the opponents of a verse?
That's like saying Kirby needs to kill death in Puss in Boots. He doesn't.
That is irrelevant, he does not interfere in the verse unless someone opens the door to his dimension thus he isn't a consideration.
That aside, he has no combat feats, his power is nebulous so there is no way to scale him anyway.
Technically speaking, any universe capable of building multiple colony ships could probably survive. Even if we assume Kirby has the Warp Star or other spacecraft the blob has occasionally piloted, he simply can't be everywhere at once, and iirc only the ship he crashed at the start of Right Back At Ya had any noteworthy sensors. Most actual planets seem to be notably bigger than what Kirby is used to, so a civilization should be able to stall Kirby long enough to build a few far away from eachother that they only lose one or two ships before Kirby has to choose which to pursue at risk of becoming unable to find the others later.
I feel like pride depends on if Kirby can copy some type of light ability and whether or not Pride can try to interact with Kirby's soul like he did with Ed.
The literal definition of the Prison Realm is that it can seal "absolutely anything or anyone inside of an inescapable pocket dimension" as long as it's in a "four meter radius."
Period.
Bringing up any possibility of Kirby somehow being immune or escaping the realm is purely headcannon and directly contradicts what the Prison Realm is stated to do in Jujutsu Kaisen.
Kirby doesn't just randomly swallow every single random object without knowing what it is. If it's lying conspicuously on the floor it's not as though Kirby's going to inhale it because it literally just looks like a funny cube. You could hide it in a pile of leaves or something and he'd probably ignore it.
the issue is that dragon ball charcters are reactive, they get stronger in response to a stronger enemy. Goku can surpass any limit but not instantly. Like superman, Kirby theoretically has no limit. Sure DragonBall top teirs like the gods can smack him around but how long until kirby smacks back. exuding more and more power until her overwhelms his foe.
thats the issue. kirby is canonical pis and wank. he's a living mery sue that just gets stronger. eventually he will consume them because he's canonically designed to be unbeatable.
Dragon Ball is overkill. Even the early Dragonball Kirby would struggle with if he could even do. I mean for godsake there already destroying or at the very least conquering planets with one sayain or frost demon (and yes ik there not all that strong but still). Z and onwards he would eventually loose.
Maybe at first, but Samus shows up in a game, to thank Kirby for killing some Metroids, and either Kirby is not 8 inches, but at least 2 feet tall, or Samus is 2 feet tall. I'll let you choose which one is true.
In Kirby's Dream Land 3.
Kirby has to defeat six Metroid larvae (which can only be defeated with the ice ability), and upon doing so Samus will be at the end of that specific stage (stage 2 of the ice world) and give him an Heart Star with her helmet off. If you don't defeat the metroids, she won't give it and have her helmet still on.
Stanley's Parable
The narrator is a formless character that doesn't even appear on screen, Stanley himself is a regular human with no power (meaning no copy ability), and the bucket is a regular bucket.
As long as Kirby has no means to attack the narrator, he can't truly 100% kill everyone.
no, no they were not. Buu has an upper sealing, his regen has a limt. kirby does not. kirby stormed into heaven and dethroned God for cake. go watch the kirby iceberg. educate yourself.
hes proven to be resistant to transformation before & he's survived blackholes. specifically thoes created by nightmare, dark star, and void termina. The issue is we are arguing charcters with defined limits & powers. kirby has no limits, has crazy haxs, & cannonically unlimited power according to the creator. Kirby is like that kid on the playground who keeps adding powers and ability to win. he's what happens when wank, pis, and protagonist armor come together to form an actual charcter who was created & is depicted in cannon lore & media according to the charcters creator, game developers, & publishing studio to be am unbeatable mary sue. Arguing why kirby wins is like arguing why bugs bunny wins. June just does because thats all he was created to do. Kirby is so one dimensional & so designed to do one thing that it becomes impossible to beat him. the best you can hope for is the other guy not to lose.
The amount of planet busting characters in that universe, some of which literally do it just for fun, and that’s the weakest verse you can come up with?
I could totally see Kirby traipsing across the universe eating the suns of each star system. Existence becomes a race ever forward on grand colony ships, knowing one day there will be nowhere left. On that day the Kirby the Endbringer will have his final meal.
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Technically undertake, since from what I understand, frisk would just keep resetting till the end of time. Frisk would never win, but neither would Kirby.
frisk doesn't have the ability, it's **you** the player. im pretty sure during the pacifist runs, asriel/flowey tells you to "leave frisk alone" or something like that. he's talking directly to you. he wants you to stop playing. to not reset and ruin his happiness.
Sonic. Kirby can defeat eggman and all the minor and major bosses but once beings like solaris Dark gaia, metal overlord, devil doom, etc enter the picturr then hes screwed
Literally none of Kirby’s bosses are ‘godlike eldritch horrors.’ They’re Saturday night villains he only beat by having a specific teammate, relic, or situation.
I think that Zero-Two fits the bill of eldritch, but otherwise yeah. Zero-Two and maybe Magolor Soul are the only villains that can be considered unsettling, especially if they were in a different art style/series
Depends on the big bad. Big bads like Metal Overlord, DD and Dark Gaia he can definitely beat. It’s high end enemies like Solaris and Time Eater is where he stops
The Nickelodeon Sitcom Universe. Captain Man is completely, 100% indestructible, so unless Kirby can ERASE REALITY ITSELF, Captain Man survives unscathed. Physically. Not mentally.
I do NOT watch Nickelodeon at all now, but from what I heard from the Danger Force premiere episode is that Captain Man no longer is indestructible, and has to teach a new generation of heroes how to defend the city. I watched this in Spanish, so maybe the dub got it wrong
I don't understand the hype behind Kirby.
1. I don't necessarily think that Smash Bros is the best franchise to gauge his power, since all the characters are balanced. If taken in their own games, obviously some would be exponentially more powerful than others. But even if we did use Smash Bros: Kirby can only get his enemy's most basic power, and can't get multiple powers.
2. In Kirby's own games, he can't suck up bosses. So depending on how you define his opponents, if they are a "boss" then his power is very limited.
3. Regardless of the game, he's very much still mortal. He can be damaged by basic enemies, and it doesn't take many hits to end him. He can still be damaged while sucking if he is hit from any other side.
Is there something I'm missing?
Imagine demon Slayer Kirby would be fine against most characters but certain demons he'd be screwed cause they'd just use ranged attacks and Kirby's a puddle
As is shown in Smash Bros one need simply not be swallowed by Kirby. Worst case scenario it's like Smash Bros but getting swallowed is game over. Best case of "weakest universe" could be any universe with supers where it works like Smash Bros actually works. I don't see Kirby as so stupid OP when any Nintendo character and like 100 PlayStation characters etc etc etc can all hold their own against him in battle. Kirby is a boss for sure and he could win the day against a lot of other powerful characters but I think he just as easily gets beat out. He's a bit of a speciality type who's lack of raw power but interesting special ability puts him right smack dab in the middle. He wins lots he loses lots.
He does technically eat sectonia but that was with Hypernova and he even struggled with that. He struggles to eat large enemies. Regular enemies. Some of the enemies like the gordos don’t even flinch to it. His inhale is actually a pretty shit ability when it comes to trying to actually kill someone. The only people it works on are extraordinarily weak. It even wouldn’t work on some of the cannon verisons of most smash characters.
Our world. Tie a rope around an old man's waist and give him a sonic weapon, something that makes sound waves loud enough to cause physical damage. Kirby can't suck him in, can't suck in sound, we win. Also tie the gun to the guy's arms so Kirby doesn't suck that in.
If Kirby sucks in a rock or something and somehow becomes immune to sound, swap to a spray of hydrochloric acid, dimethyl mercury, or intense radiation.
Its WAY weaker than what some people say it is don’t get it twisted. Kirby is a powerful character but most the people claiming hes as strong as he is are out of their fucking minds.
Thats said, Probably the Star Trek Universe. Everyone in that universe is human level or just above human level. Might be some ships that can hurt him though. He could kill every single person in said universe. There is one notable exception however. Q. He wouldn’t be able to Kill Q because he has near godlike reality and time bending abilities and doesn’t even have to exist in the same plane of existence as Kirby.
JoJo. He can kill 99% of the series, but there are a few specific characters he could do absolutely nothing about.
kirby vs a metal pylon
I wonder what would happen if Kirby just ate the whole thing. It's supposed to reflect attacks, so that would be an interesting interaction if Kirby just swallowed it whole with hypernova.
Yeah but this last one percent can solo entire universes so idk if it's really that weak yknow
If only a tiny fraction of a verse is super OP, the verse as a whole is still average. Outlier rule.
I disagree I think the Kirby universe is strong because there is Kirby and in the same way Jojo with go beyond ger,wonder of u or act4 is stronger than most because of that.
Is Kirby's species active, or are they in the same state as Saiyans/Kryptonians?
Well it's more complicated they are more like a universal base from what we can tell with void termina. They are like born of the emotions of people of the universe and Kirby seems like the strongest.
More of an eldrich cosmic entity
KING CRIMSON!
Wonder of U/Soft & Wet Go Beyond dub
Imagine if he counters Wonder of U by eating Josuke and using Go Beyond
I feel like people missed the fact that Go Beyond was still just a slow moving bubble, and only really useful in specific circumstances, like countering Wonder of U. But even a normal human could just... step out of the way.
Ong a lot of people like to “scale” go beyond to like “outerversal” whatever that means but in reality it wouldn’t even kill a normal person if it hits
People like to scale feats on how quantumy they are instead of on how actually useful they are. I've seen people call GB > Infinite Rotation, as in TA4's bullets. These are NOT WORKING THE SAME, they're used for TWO DIFFERENT SCENARIOS AND APPLIED DIFFERENTLY. It's what some powerscalers do NOT get about JoJo, it's not linear, it's not "X beats Y, and Y beats Z, so X must beat Z". 90% of Stands, including Star Platinum, could not survive C-moon's punches were they to hit directly, Jolyne is able to survive them and stand on equal ground, this doesn't mean that Jolyne solos 90% of Stands, and definitely not Star Platinum. So when you hear people call something "outerversal" and shit, pay no attention to it, focus on how it can actually be applied. I can fart and my fart can go across dimensions and reach God's face, yet it's still a fart, and I'm still fighting someone in one dimension, regardless of how dimensionally amazing and cosmic it is, it's not doing shit in a fight.
>So when you hear people call something "outerversal" and shit, pay no attention to it, focus on how it can actually be applied. Also focus on how it is used in the media in question. A "light" based attack does not necessarily move at the speed of light, and something which bends dimensions somewhat does not actually mean the character has any dimension warping abilities, or scales to that level.
Don't forget Giorno
Even more than most media, powerscaling Jojo is also weird because fate directly controls stand powers. So removing them from context is kinda pointless. Josuk8 has Go Beyond *because* his end antagonist was Wonder of U, so taking him out of that setting is like trying to bake a cake on a grill with a spatula. If he had a different antagonist, he would have also had a different stand.
I feel like people forget that Kirby is a baby and his first instinct when met with something unfamiliar is to try eating it, and it begs the question of what happens when you try to eat something that both does and doesn't exist. Would he swallow up the bubble no issue or would it take him out on the spot? Either it's entirely effective or entirely ineffective. I just happen to think it's effective
Whom?
Valentine, Magenta Magenta, Light Novel Kars, Heaven Ascension DIO/Jotaro, Light Novel Dio, Tooru, Giorno, Ringo, Toyohiro, and Johnny.
I dont think the none canon character count but tooru and gorino alone could probably do it
Why wouldn't the non-canon characters count? It's still part of the verse.
If they're not canon, they're not part of the verse. It's like going to a Dragon Ball thread of someone asking who would win against Black Frieza and pulling out Abridged Popo through his "Pecking Order" thing. Sure, one's a parody, and one's an actual manga, but they're both still ultimately fan creations, and not canon to their respective series.
Eyes Of heaven and Jorge Joestar both had Araki heavily involved. They aren't fan stories.
Eyes of Heaven, yes, I'll agree with you on that. Araki is confirmed to have made the covers of Jorge Joestar, but as far as I can tell most websites say that's as far as it goes. In fact, TVTropes and a link to Amino Apps(can't view it presumably because I'm using a VPN, but it could just be down entirely) are really the only two places I've seen say Araki drew the panels for Jorge Joestar.
Still endorsed and taken in as an official spin-off. It's just another multiverse.
Araki has never stated if it's canon, also Araki never said if there was more than 1 multiverse
Tbf Kirby could probably eat a few of those characters, copy their abilities and work his way up to the super powerful ones
Kirby a strange one his defensive are way higher then his offensive. Like he natural Can take hits in fight universe ending dark gods but usually needs special weapon to hurt them
Maybe One-Punch Man, he'd clear most of them, but high tiers like Garou, Saitama and God (who is featless rn but come on, he's God.) would give him trouble
God does have feats Giving garou his power Which, was not in full as garou barely touched his hand and was still able to fight toe to toe with saitama for a time and even surpassed the version of saitama that started the fight So its safe to assume god has serious power probably more than saitama
> So its safe to assume god has serious power probably more than saitama until he doesn’t. FTFY
I think saitamas power probably is connected to god somehow do its possible he wont just instantly power up beyond him
To be fair it's pretty obvious that Saitama would finally find motivation in fighting as he becomes "the man who once fought god"
Actually, Kirby might actually be at Saitama. Kirby has hit baseballs so hard they go over 10000 light-years per second, meaning that's at least how strong he is.
Issue is that Saitama is not an estática power level, he grows each second and copying him is not even effective as Garou demonstrated
It *is effective.* For a bit, the Hero Killer was able to keep Baldie on the back foot. The problem was that he seems to grow exponentially in relation to his goal.. beating the Hero Killer in this case. I mean he became so powerful from the scaling that he punched… *backwards in time?*
no, Garou actually had to teach him how to do that
I mean, the fact that he could is the issue. HK knew he was toast ya know.
Except that isn't how strong he is in the actual games, making the number fairly unreliable.
Don’t you love it when Kirby can destroy multiple planets by accelerating a meteor to tens of thousands of time the speed of light, yet a funny cat egg thing building an amusement park is too far out of canon and requires a canon AU
>yet a funny cat egg thing building an amusement park is too far out of canon and requires a canon AU Even funnier when you consider that this is the same game that retroactively makes the kirby clash series canon (in a sense), so HAL thinks that Magolor getting isekai'd into a medieval land with four kirbies and then kickstarting capitalism in there is perfectly reasonable, but him building an amusement park is way too far fetched.
I'm hesitant to give Kirby the W for a few reasons. We know that Saitama will grow stronger in response to people copying his abilities, and Kirby doesn't really have a way to counter that. Plus, it's difficult to judge how Saitama would interact with Kirby and his abilities. We know he can resist Telekinesis, though that's more of a Tatsumaki antifeat. So would he get sucked up by inhale or hypernova? And even if he wasn't immune, would he be fast enough to just outrun it? As far as I know, Kirby doesn't really have an answer to Saitama's growth
All that would have to happen is Kirby just hitting as hard as possible, oneshotting him. Otherwise, Saitama would eventually win.
It’s been a while since I’ve seen some Kirby wank. This will be a good laugh
hE’s OuTeRvErSaL
“Nah. Universe level at best”
Wankers: Kirby is at least a planet-buster The respect thread: Kirby can break blocks
Scaling Kirby is disastrous because on one hand you got people who wank him to hell and back because of a single statement of him having infinite power and on how a bunch of Kirby final bosses are kinda gods, while on the other hand there's people who swear up and down that he would die if you dropped an apple on him.
"Kirby can break blocks" Meanwhile Kirby: https://youtu.be/qt6htoDftzI?si=Bp0z205suYMKAte\_
meanwhile what I assume is the baseball minigame that ISN'T CANNON FOR GOD'S SAKE Edit: FUCKING KNEW IT
lmao
The latest Kirby game has the villain moving a planet lmao. He’s not outerversal or anything like that but downplaying him because of a game’s presentation is silly
That sounds exactly like Davoth doomwank. "He killed a villain who can ~~create universes~~ move planets so he is ~~multiversal~~ planetbuster"
No? It’s not that at all. The feats in DOOM are extremely vague, off screen, and has no indication of his actual attack power. There is a direct, on screen cutscene where the final point of the game is that Fecto Elfilis is going to merge Planet Popstar with his planet. The OST for that moment is literally “Two Planets Approach the Roche Limit”. If you think that’s illogical, then I guess no DBZ characters are planet busting because the only one who does that on screen is Frieza lol. Breaking news: Goku confirmed wall level. When a character fights a character who can do something, takes attacks from the same power the character used to do said thing, and is generally of the same power level as that thing, then they are considered to be that strong. First Form Frieza blows up a planet. Anyone as strong as him is Planet level. Fecto Elfilis moves a planet with telekinesis, on screen, and uses the full force of the same telekinesis to attack Kirby. Not Planet level? I sense bias
Also, one of that guy's attacks is called "fermi paradox's answer" which seems to imply that he had singlehandedly wiped out (at bare minimum) every single alien planet that could be seen by humans, and kirby defeated that guy (nearly) by himself! (Sure, they got some help at the very end, but by that point the guy was already melting so it doesn't really matter)
>"The name of his attack is Fermi Paradox therefore he is galactic+" Can Chrom or Lucina control the Sun and Moon because they can use Sol and Luna? Byleth using the Sword of the Creator? What about solar system Sephiroth and Supernova, at least that has an animation. Can random humans in Dota tank black holes and supernovas because there's Black Hole and Supernova abilities that cannot one-shot, which also have animations?
I feel like that's a bit different since those would be huge outliers compared to what those characters usually do, while Elfilis has already been shown to be perfectly capable of taking down entire planets (the tour guide mentions him having destroyed a sizable chunk of the world before getting captured and his final attack almost destroyed two planets at once.) So him being the reason behind the fermi paradox says a lot less about his strength and a lot more about his dedication and his infamy, which makes it way funnier that kirby turned the guy into roadkill as if he were nothing.
He probably is arround star level because ALOT of Kirby villains make usage of black holes. So certainly not weak but holy shit is it a step down from what most people think it is
Banana Joe from Amazing World of Gumball
So this is essentially the weakest character Kirby couldn’t kill, since if one named character in a verse can’t be killed the verse wins. With that out of the way, IIRC Kirby has never been able to inhale ghosts, so the weakest verse that has ghosts and no ability to kill them wins.
Only as long as the verse didn't contain anything that could kill ghosts, because Kirby could inhale the ghost killing thing.
Kirby does have a ghost Copy Ability. It's in Squeak Squad as far as I recall, though I wouldn't know when else it's shown up.
Ghost hasnt showed up since, and considering its unlock method, it might not even be canon.
So… freaking Casper is the answer again? ~~At this point the mods should make a bot which answers Casper to every prompt.~~
I forget the Casper franchise a lot, but I think I remember someone making something that could kill ghosts or turn them back into mortals so theoretically they could then be consumed. If that's the case while base Kirby I don't think could kill Casper, after he's inhaled the thing that can handle ghosts, he then could take out Casper.
02 kid, so I’ve yet to watch any of the Casper movies.
It's been a while since I saw the original Casper movie but didn't Casper or one of his uncles get sucked up by a vacuum cleaner at least temporarily? If so Kirby might be able to trap them but idk about dealing anything but maybe psychological damage.
Common Casper the Friendly Ghost W
kirby doesn’t need to inhale someone to kill them. Infact, he can’t inhale most people in his own verse. As long as there was a way to harm the ghosts, Kirbys doing just fine.
Smash bros universe. I’ve kicked the pink balloons ass more times than I can count
Kirby never swallows (giggity) in that universe. He pulls punches as a sign of respect by releasing foes after copying them. In every other game/Manga etc, the thing is destroyed.
The thing isn't always destroyed. And it's not only kirby pulling his punches. The likes of Isabelle should not be able to harm Cloud, Link or Shulk. and Olimar should be too tiny to even take note of.
That's canon to all Kirby though. Someone clarified it was true, and in at least one game someone he swallows in a cutscene shows up again later.
No the hell you haven't. The very first Smash Bros. game makes it perfectly clear that every "character" is really a kid's toy replica of that character that he is making fight each other.
Yeah but then again Ultimate is a whole thing with them having life and all that
What if Ultimate was a cognitive world set in the Persona universe?
Pretty sure it’s just a kid playing with toys lmao, every dlc it’s just a present from his gamer uncle
Kid's aged with the series, he read the Game of Thrones series and decided he'd dust off his toys he has in a box in the attic with his son.
Say that to my unsuspicious kirby's face who is standing near a ledge.
That was him holding back for fun. When the chips were down he was the only survivor in ultimate
Any game in which he’s not the protagonist. I feel like people underestimate the degree to which kirby has protagonism on his side, and he almost always needs some kind of power up that he doesn’t have natively to take on the finale.
He did beat magalor and elfillis without any outside help.
From the cutscenes it seems to imply Dedede, Meta Knight, and a waddle dee were there for the entire Return to Dreamland game. So I’d reckon canonically the four of them beat Magolor together.
True, but that just means they all scale to him, or at least in the ball park of him. Like even if kirby is 1/4th Magolor that is pretty impressive given what Magolor does. And Elifis is even more so, and Kirby did do that one alone
Magolor is more impressive than Elfilis. Magolor Soul was moving stars in the background and collapsed Another Dimension. Although, to Elfilis's credit, he has the only Planet Level feat in Kirby that really isn't debatable. You can't downplay moving a planet with telekenesis lol
By feats, this is true. By lore Elfilis is, unless I am missing something, the strongest enemy Kirby has faced to date.
Isn’t Void Termina stronger? It took Kirby, three Star Allies, and the Star Allies Sparkler to kill him. Meanwhile just Kirby and Elfilin were enough for Elfilis. Also, Meta Knight resisted his mind control unlike the Jamba Hearts.
I think your probably right. I forgot star allies existed tbh
Void Termina and Star Dream both are contenders at least given what Kirby brought to the boss fight.
Except the 3 other people of a similar power level and 4 dragons that already barely beat magolor on his own (with the same thing that makes magolor powerful now tbf) before the start, but yes without outside help
Kirby literally cannot even scratch Magolor's star barrier without Super Abilities summoned by, know who? *Magolor himself* Oh and Ultra Sword is "supposedly" Planet cleaving based on Battle Royale, so Magolor's nigh unbreakable barrier only has planet durability... and well, that does not speak well for Kirb.
I thought that was the point. You only even have a CHANCE of beating him if he's not the mc. Is that not the reasoning behind all his feats and stuff. They never give any reasoning for how strong he is. He's just always hitting as hard as he needs to regardless of the situation.
Fullmetal alchemist, 99% of that verse is fodder but the truth would be impossible for him to kill.
>truth would be impossible for him to kill. Why would he need to? Why would a concept count towards the opponents of a verse? That's like saying Kirby needs to kill death in Puss in Boots. He doesn't.
He definitely needs to kill Death in puss in boots because Death is an actual dude
Death has very few feats so i dont think it would be a problem.
Even if the truths a concept hes still also a character at the same time, he shows he has consciousness and a personality, making him a character.
That is irrelevant, he does not interfere in the verse unless someone opens the door to his dimension thus he isn't a consideration. That aside, he has no combat feats, his power is nebulous so there is no way to scale him anyway.
Literally kirby is multiversal+ He can just overwhelm their regen
My guy what regen? The Truth is a concept.
I meant for the homunculi that kirby beats their regen Also kirby has concept hax as they can interact with master hand who is an abstract being
Mario is conceptual confirmed
Technically speaking, any universe capable of building multiple colony ships could probably survive. Even if we assume Kirby has the Warp Star or other spacecraft the blob has occasionally piloted, he simply can't be everywhere at once, and iirc only the ship he crashed at the start of Right Back At Ya had any noteworthy sensors. Most actual planets seem to be notably bigger than what Kirby is used to, so a civilization should be able to stall Kirby long enough to build a few far away from eachother that they only lose one or two ships before Kirby has to choose which to pursue at risk of becoming unable to find the others later.
uncle grandpa
Weakest. Not strongest.
FMA Brotherhood. He has nothing that can stop The Truth, who is the god of that universe. He’d actually really struggle against Pride too.
I feel like pride depends on if Kirby can copy some type of light ability and whether or not Pride can try to interact with Kirby's soul like he did with Ed.
Jujustu Kaisen because Prison realm meaning the Jujustu Sorcerers or curse users just wait for around 2 minutes for Kirby to be sealed away.
Nah, because Kirby would just swallow that shit.
Whilst inside it?
No, I meant before it could activate. Although, I'm not sure what would happen if it activated inside him.
The literal definition of the Prison Realm is that it can seal "absolutely anything or anyone inside of an inescapable pocket dimension" as long as it's in a "four meter radius." Period. Bringing up any possibility of Kirby somehow being immune or escaping the realm is purely headcannon and directly contradicts what the Prison Realm is stated to do in Jujutsu Kaisen.
Kirby doesn't just randomly swallow every single random object without knowing what it is. If it's lying conspicuously on the floor it's not as though Kirby's going to inhale it because it literally just looks like a funny cube. You could hide it in a pile of leaves or something and he'd probably ignore it.
Ok but like, what if you deepfry it and present it to him on a plate.
Arguably Dragon ball
the issue is that dragon ball charcters are reactive, they get stronger in response to a stronger enemy. Goku can surpass any limit but not instantly. Like superman, Kirby theoretically has no limit. Sure DragonBall top teirs like the gods can smack him around but how long until kirby smacks back. exuding more and more power until her overwhelms his foe.
Kirby’s best feats don’t really compare to DBS high tiers.
thats the issue. kirby is canonical pis and wank. he's a living mery sue that just gets stronger. eventually he will consume them because he's canonically designed to be unbeatable.
Dragon Ball is overkill. Even the early Dragonball Kirby would struggle with if he could even do. I mean for godsake there already destroying or at the very least conquering planets with one sayain or frost demon (and yes ik there not all that strong but still). Z and onwards he would eventually loose.
Bruh Kirby is like 8 inches tall he can’t even shallow every thing in his own games. So literally any universe with people above 2 ft probably.
Maybe at first, but Samus shows up in a game, to thank Kirby for killing some Metroids, and either Kirby is not 8 inches, but at least 2 feet tall, or Samus is 2 feet tall. I'll let you choose which one is true.
Doesn't Kirby have a canonical height that is pretty short?
Not cannon
The hell you mean Kirby games aren't canon to Kirby?
I was joking man I was joking.
I was gonna respond the same way. People be saying stuff like that and not be kidding tho. Thx for the out loud laugh
Where do they even meet? Smash Bros. is non-canon, unless we put Bayonetta on par with Princess Peach
In Kirby's Dream Land 3. Kirby has to defeat six Metroid larvae (which can only be defeated with the ice ability), and upon doing so Samus will be at the end of that specific stage (stage 2 of the ice world) and give him an Heart Star with her helmet off. If you don't defeat the metroids, she won't give it and have her helmet still on.
Gravity Falls, almost everyone would die ,but Bill would definitely be able to defeat Kirby.
Stanley's Parable The narrator is a formless character that doesn't even appear on screen, Stanley himself is a regular human with no power (meaning no copy ability), and the bucket is a regular bucket. As long as Kirby has no means to attack the narrator, he can't truly 100% kill everyone.
Dragon Ball, he gets walled by Majjin Boo both in kid form and as the fat guy
Found the Death Battle fan /s
But Death battle said kirby would win
And they were wrong
no, no they were not. Buu has an upper sealing, his regen has a limt. kirby does not. kirby stormed into heaven and dethroned God for cake. go watch the kirby iceberg. educate yourself.
In his fat guy form he can turn people into food, as kid bu he can create black holes, Kirby might have good regen but he loses easily without hax
hes proven to be resistant to transformation before & he's survived blackholes. specifically thoes created by nightmare, dark star, and void termina. The issue is we are arguing charcters with defined limits & powers. kirby has no limits, has crazy haxs, & cannonically unlimited power according to the creator. Kirby is like that kid on the playground who keeps adding powers and ability to win. he's what happens when wank, pis, and protagonist armor come together to form an actual charcter who was created & is depicted in cannon lore & media according to the charcters creator, game developers, & publishing studio to be am unbeatable mary sue. Arguing why kirby wins is like arguing why bugs bunny wins. June just does because thats all he was created to do. Kirby is so one dimensional & so designed to do one thing that it becomes impossible to beat him. the best you can hope for is the other guy not to lose.
Kirby has literally had his ass beat on screen. Repeatedly. He’s not a gag character.
The amount of planet busting characters in that universe, some of which literally do it just for fun, and that’s the weakest verse you can come up with?
I could totally see Kirby traipsing across the universe eating the suns of each star system. Existence becomes a race ever forward on grand colony ships, knowing one day there will be nowhere left. On that day the Kirby the Endbringer will have his final meal. K̦̞̺i̡͎̟r̢͉͚b̢̫̼y̦̘̘ m͇͎g̺̙͔e̞̫̝p̙̙͕ n̪͇o̻̪͖g̘̠̞.̼͖ L̠̫l̡̺̘l͔͎l̝̝̺ y͕͓m̢̝̼g͕͔̦'̟̟͚ n͓̼̻'̙͉͓g͖̠͔h͚̝̟a͎͜,̺͕̫ n̼͍i̟͖͓l̢͉͓g̺͖̙h̼̻'̠̫̙r̺͖̻i͉̪ș͕͙h͍̙̪u͎̟g̙͇͓g̦͜o̞̼̝g̡̘͖g̟͖͚ a̻͇͕h̠̦o̫͔͖r̞̺͖ a͕͉̻h̪̻͍t͎͚̟h̢͜r̡͕o̫͔d͍̠o͕͕̺g͉̘͙ m̟̞̘g̪̟͍f͖͙͕m̢̢͔'͙̻̺l̘̝̪a̡̢t͖̼g̡͎̙h͕̺̺n̺̘̙a̡̞h̠͎̪ n̡͓g̢͖͕ y̟̙a͇͚̺ h̠͔͍u͎͖̝n̘͉͜g̢̘̝e͍͙̼r͔͔͙ a̪͍͎h͙̺͙o̢͇͓r͎̠ z͚͖̠h̙̦͖r̦͍͚o̝͚̫.̺͇̘ I͉͙̼A̝͚!͇̻ I̺͕̦A̠͓̼!̻̞
Technically undertake, since from what I understand, frisk would just keep resetting till the end of time. Frisk would never win, but neither would Kirby.
Frisk doesn't reset. The player does. And the whole point is that the player will have limited patience.
the condition isn't to win but to kill. and iirc frisk isn't the one that can reset it's the player themself, so he would win against frisk as well.
Oh, both of these are pretty good points, but when is it ever implied that frisk gained the ability to reset from the player?
frisk doesn't have the ability, it's **you** the player. im pretty sure during the pacifist runs, asriel/flowey tells you to "leave frisk alone" or something like that. he's talking directly to you. he wants you to stop playing. to not reset and ruin his happiness.
I just figured we were still controlling frisk, and as such, has access to their resets, but you’ll probably right.
Sonic. Kirby can defeat eggman and all the minor and major bosses but once beings like solaris Dark gaia, metal overlord, devil doom, etc enter the picturr then hes screwed
Reminder that defeating godlike eldritch horrors is something Kirby does fairly frequently.
Literally none of Kirby’s bosses are ‘godlike eldritch horrors.’ They’re Saturday night villains he only beat by having a specific teammate, relic, or situation.
And in this scenario according to OP kirby is going solo. So he gone
I think that Zero-Two fits the bill of eldritch, but otherwise yeah. Zero-Two and maybe Magolor Soul are the only villains that can be considered unsettling, especially if they were in a different art style/series
Depends on the big bad. Big bads like Metal Overlord, DD and Dark Gaia he can definitely beat. It’s high end enemies like Solaris and Time Eater is where he stops
How would he counter overlord's chaos control?
It’s called heavily outstating your foe. Metal Overlord is too weak to do anything.
I guess
By eating Shadow
Shadow's not involved in the scenario. It's kirby vs the bosses I mentioned
And he has no teammates to help him
For a bit thought we were going with Jack Kirby
i remember some kid trying to scale kirby to real life levels because there is some kirby car or something. It was just cringe.
Kirby puts the car in his mouth but doesn't eat it he wraps around it and gains control of it. Basically possession
The Nickelodeon Sitcom Universe. Captain Man is completely, 100% indestructible, so unless Kirby can ERASE REALITY ITSELF, Captain Man survives unscathed. Physically. Not mentally.
In Danger Force that power is completely deleted from what I can remember, so It does not count anymore.
Seriously? Like, permanently, or just temporarily again?
This time they removed permanently, since that's why he created the Danger Force, in order to defend the city because he cannot do for himself now.
..are you talking about the season finale of Henry Danger? Cus that power loss was temporary.
I do NOT watch Nickelodeon at all now, but from what I heard from the Danger Force premiere episode is that Captain Man no longer is indestructible, and has to teach a new generation of heroes how to defend the city. I watched this in Spanish, so maybe the dub got it wrong
Rezero, so many Haxes he has to overcome.
The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy universe or The Amazing World of Gumball universe
I don't understand the hype behind Kirby. 1. I don't necessarily think that Smash Bros is the best franchise to gauge his power, since all the characters are balanced. If taken in their own games, obviously some would be exponentially more powerful than others. But even if we did use Smash Bros: Kirby can only get his enemy's most basic power, and can't get multiple powers. 2. In Kirby's own games, he can't suck up bosses. So depending on how you define his opponents, if they are a "boss" then his power is very limited. 3. Regardless of the game, he's very much still mortal. He can be damaged by basic enemies, and it doesn't take many hits to end him. He can still be damaged while sucking if he is hit from any other side. Is there something I'm missing?
Imagine demon Slayer Kirby would be fine against most characters but certain demons he'd be screwed cause they'd just use ranged attacks and Kirby's a puddle
undertale, he doesn't scale above asriels omnipotence, and asriel is multiple times described as god
As is shown in Smash Bros one need simply not be swallowed by Kirby. Worst case scenario it's like Smash Bros but getting swallowed is game over. Best case of "weakest universe" could be any universe with supers where it works like Smash Bros actually works. I don't see Kirby as so stupid OP when any Nintendo character and like 100 PlayStation characters etc etc etc can all hold their own against him in battle. Kirby is a boss for sure and he could win the day against a lot of other powerful characters but I think he just as easily gets beat out. He's a bit of a speciality type who's lack of raw power but interesting special ability puts him right smack dab in the middle. He wins lots he loses lots.
In the actual Kirby games, he almost *never* swallows his most fearsome opponents. I don't think he swallows a single final boss lol
He does technically eat sectonia but that was with Hypernova and he even struggled with that. He struggles to eat large enemies. Regular enemies. Some of the enemies like the gordos don’t even flinch to it. His inhale is actually a pretty shit ability when it comes to trying to actually kill someone. The only people it works on are extraordinarily weak. It even wouldn’t work on some of the cannon verisons of most smash characters.
That’s why most of his damage is done with copy abilities from swallowing weaker enemies or surrounding objects
Our world. Tie a rope around an old man's waist and give him a sonic weapon, something that makes sound waves loud enough to cause physical damage. Kirby can't suck him in, can't suck in sound, we win. Also tie the gun to the guy's arms so Kirby doesn't suck that in. If Kirby sucks in a rock or something and somehow becomes immune to sound, swap to a spray of hydrochloric acid, dimethyl mercury, or intense radiation.
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Zelda? A decent amount of Links beat Kirby (OoT, MM, SS, Botw/Totk)
Its WAY weaker than what some people say it is don’t get it twisted. Kirby is a powerful character but most the people claiming hes as strong as he is are out of their fucking minds. Thats said, Probably the Star Trek Universe. Everyone in that universe is human level or just above human level. Might be some ships that can hurt him though. He could kill every single person in said universe. There is one notable exception however. Q. He wouldn’t be able to Kill Q because he has near godlike reality and time bending abilities and doesn’t even have to exist in the same plane of existence as Kirby.