I've never understood why Americans put a fullstop (period for you Yanks) after title abbreviations.
Mr Dr Mrs
The fullstop indicates letters are missing AFTER the last letter of the abbreviation. Doctor and Mister end in 'r', so no fullstop is needed.
That's why etc. has a fullstop; there are letters after the 'c'.
Drives me wild when I see Mr and Dr punctuated with a fullstop.
In the US English language all abbreviations end in a period. Now go back to eating beans and toast with your tea and crumpets while not forgetting to see your dentist
Which look strong in pvp.
I haven’t played very close attention to them, but I might end up playing some prot warrior in m+ next season so would be interested in messing around as arms in pvp if I do
Though in a life long caster…every time I try melee I suck….bad
This is insanely strong with Spell Reflect, even with the reduced 3 sec duration in PvP.
Intervene can now intercept Polymorphs, Fears, Chaos Bolts, Cyclone and much more. Because of the all-encompassing types of attacks Intervene covers, this is effectively a 30 sec CD 3 sec duration Bubble for a warrior's teammate.
I’m showing my age and naïveté but when did they change it to whatever it is now? I remember warriors intervening polys and hunter traps back in tbc/wotlk, I guess that’s not a thing in df?
OH YES PLEASE.
Can't wait for them to get surprised how they take 165% the damage from me when I havoc them and blast another target during their intervene.
Mh yes, double the chaos bolt dosage GULP
intervene duration is halved in pvp lol.
Still a great tool to finally have back after all these years, but a lot of warrior abilities / talents are super nerfed in pvp.
I played warrior in SL and I could intervene spell reflect clone, fear, mg etc.
So what exactly would be different if this change comes to effect ? Or is it just making the note more comprehensibe ?
iirc (didn't play SL) the SL version caused intervene to apply the spell reflect buff. And this buff reflected all incoming spells for the duration. You would still have your own personal reflect cooldown available, separate from intervene.
That got removed.
This gives you the option to trade two cooldowns (reflect being a pretty big personal defensive cooldown) to reflect a single spell. Your teammate will not benefit from the 20% reduced magic damage buff that you get from spell reflect, so it's exclusively good for clutch plays like reflecting a clone aimed at someone else on your team. This makes swaps onto warrior more viable.
I play a warrior and they have not been bad at all this expansion. It's been Tier A at least for most of it with several T1 comps although I'd love if this was implemented. Warrior could use a bit more talents that allow for big plays to not just play in zugzug comps.
It's been S tier at times during this expansion but it's been A tier for most of it and because of its kit it usually finds a viable comp like right now with ret/war.
I wouldn't say S tier, it had zero AWC finals appearances because you'd be stupid to draft a warrior over a dh or a rogue
A tier for sure, solid overall, just not op
It was A tier a couple of times and then it was nerfed. They nerfed the execute talent that stacks damage on MS, nerfed Fatality too and buffed sustained, especially in bleeds, but warrior in previous seasons was blasting ppl, didnt last long and it was brought down a bit to a well deserved A tier.
True that it didnt perform in AWC finals but that could be for a variety of reasons, not only "it must not be that strong", and in ladder it has been solid.
Warriors are S tier from like 0-2400 and then fall off the better players get
Rogues start off like A tier and become SSS tier because there's no counterplay to all the bullshit they have exclusive access to
I checked a couple days ago and warriors were 3rd melee in representation above 2400 above all casters, though alone they don't feel tier S, they are a Tier A spec that goes so well with ret and the comp is easy enough to play that is makes sense.
Rogues are always tier S in tourneys but in ladder not so much as not as many people can play them at that level
It depends how much you value competitive balance to your own personal struggles.
I just like seeing things to have some parity at the top level because it shows that things can be overcome if you just played better. Instead of things just being absolutely unplayable after a certain point
well thats the point, warriors show up at the top level plenty except tourneys, but AWC and ladder are two different beasts and you'll find two different spec populations there too.
warrior doesnt bring much to the table tbh other than a watered down stun and a fear.
intervene does allow flashy plays which will be eyecandy for pro play during awc if it makes it that far
Tells me you think the only utility of a class is their CC which is not. Warrior has access to Disarm, continues being the class with the better healing reduction (which is one of the reasons it synergizes well with most other specs), this expantion it has great mobility, CC immunity with Berzerker Rage, Double Bladestorm and even Banner, can Intervene physical CC which is massive, with the shout talent it also has an aoe root break, a 5% extra damage from everyone, and it has amazing damage.
It also has great cleave damage, decent survivability, etc. It's not a surprise Ret/Arms has been one of the strongest comps this season.
What game are you playing? Even when they are down they aren’t down bad. Warriors have ALWAYS had a viable spec between arms and fury outside of MAYBE 1 or 2 patches total.
I’m praying to god this is sarcasm and also buff feral.
MR. PRESIDENT, GET DOWN!!!
That’s hilarious 😂
a tank in the game Paladins has this voice line with an American skin of his its funny af
I've never understood why Americans put a fullstop (period for you Yanks) after title abbreviations. Mr Dr Mrs The fullstop indicates letters are missing AFTER the last letter of the abbreviation. Doctor and Mister end in 'r', so no fullstop is needed. That's why etc. has a fullstop; there are letters after the 'c'. Drives me wild when I see Mr and Dr punctuated with a fullstop.
Get a load of this nerd
The same reason y’all use random U’s in words like color
In the US English language all abbreviations end in a period. Now go back to eating beans and toast with your tea and crumpets while not forgetting to see your dentist
Well. I read your "Mr and Dr" as "mur" and "dur".
did you ever think that, it was because we don't call it a fullstop?
Here we go again. They do something like this every once in a while with intervene, it's broken, then it gets nerfed and around we go.
It’s gonna be so much fun until they do nerf it though.
Hilariously the same thing with binding shot... which is now a root again for some reason?
Really?
It was one of those single sneaky hunter changes they slid into the long list of beta notes
Warrior is already going to be absolutely busted with the hero talents, this is just icing.
They are? Haven’t looked at anything
Colossus just doubles down on CS burst window. You just smash and edge until you get to just bust it all out.
sounds very erotic
Ooo my
Which look strong in pvp. I haven’t played very close attention to them, but I might end up playing some prot warrior in m+ next season so would be interested in messing around as arms in pvp if I do Though in a life long caster…every time I try melee I suck….bad
This is insanely strong with Spell Reflect, even with the reduced 3 sec duration in PvP. Intervene can now intercept Polymorphs, Fears, Chaos Bolts, Cyclone and much more. Because of the all-encompassing types of attacks Intervene covers, this is effectively a 30 sec CD 3 sec duration Bubble for a warrior's teammate.
Finally. Intervene will be able to do a thing it could do over a decade ago.
*Chromie liked that*
A few more years and it will only intercept one physical ability Can't wait
The power creep is real /s?
I think this will get nerfed in PvP tbh. This is way too good.
Intervene has gone through this cycle before, and actually has been stronger than this in the past. This is nothing new.
It was removed for a reason lol (in pvp at least)
That's a mentality that really doesn't hold up to scrutiny.
OK so you believe a 5 second bubble every 25s for the warriors teammate had a positive impact on the game at the time?
Serious question: What the fuck are you even talking about? Do you even know how abilities work?
Would be sick but idk if those classify as "harmful spells".
They are.
non-harmful spells would be heals or buffs.
It's 3 seconds in PvP
Does it say that in the spellbook or do you just know this from experience? just curious
Experience
he means people run away, not the actual timer edit: nvm
Came to check this, 6 points is a disgusting amount of time
That's insane still. This shouldn't be in the game at all but if implemented MAX should be 1 second like fade.
i think 1.5 secs would be fair if they take into consideration that most of us are senior citizens now and have reduced reflex time
Warriors toolkit is already insane, it's like saying rogues need more CC, this would only be okay if it was limited to protection spec.
Good, more skillful plays from warriors, good old intervene.
My smooth brain only can zug, now I will be expected to pay attention to things?! Healer will be ok, I need to stare at my action bar tyvm
You go big brother mode!!!!
I’m showing my age and naïveté but when did they change it to whatever it is now? I remember warriors intervening polys and hunter traps back in tbc/wotlk, I guess that’s not a thing in df?
They intervened when they were getting trapped to eat the trap or when the warrior was being polyd to eat the nest hit to break it.
Oh duh, yeah you’re right. So this is a big buff/taking away the timing requirement.
Long time coming
s1 tww will be an insane warrior meta
Everyone says that but then it's like: Oops all rmp
Insanely OP.
[source - mmo-champion spell changes](https://www.mmo-champion.com/content/12349-The-War-Within-Beta-Datamining-Build-55000)
OH YES PLEASE. Can't wait for them to get surprised how they take 165% the damage from me when I havoc them and blast another target during their intervene. Mh yes, double the chaos bolt dosage GULP
You mean havoc yourself, and then delete yourself?
When does this go live?
probably with TWW prepatch, which will be in like 2 months (assuming it comes with the end of remix)
Shieeeeeet
The key here is that it will do this for 6 full seconds as long as the warrior is in range. That's huge.
intervene duration is halved in pvp lol. Still a great tool to finally have back after all these years, but a lot of warrior abilities / talents are super nerfed in pvp.
Oh, thanks for letting me know. I always forget that.
np. This kind of info really needs to be easier to find in game.
Ayo is this for current retail or TWW?
Hopefully warriors are good kill targets in TWW. Otherwise, this needs to be a 2 min CD, cause this shit will be obnoxious...
My hunter sitting here whispering in my ear to start babysitting him again. Oh lord.
Another nerf to Hunters, trapping a healer is gonna be even worse now.
Be funny when people randomly one shot warrior though.. 6 seconds is pretty long.
I played warrior in SL and I could intervene spell reflect clone, fear, mg etc. So what exactly would be different if this change comes to effect ? Or is it just making the note more comprehensibe ?
iirc (didn't play SL) the SL version caused intervene to apply the spell reflect buff. And this buff reflected all incoming spells for the duration. You would still have your own personal reflect cooldown available, separate from intervene. That got removed. This gives you the option to trade two cooldowns (reflect being a pretty big personal defensive cooldown) to reflect a single spell. Your teammate will not benefit from the 20% reduced magic damage buff that you get from spell reflect, so it's exclusively good for clutch plays like reflecting a clone aimed at someone else on your team. This makes swaps onto warrior more viable.
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I'm not even surprised I missed it, didn't play warrior in DF at all.
No.
Please no... I remember having to cover my hunters trap goes with a sw:p on the warrior to get his auto reflect.
Honestly much needed, warrior has been down bad for a long time
I play a warrior and they have not been bad at all this expansion. It's been Tier A at least for most of it with several T1 comps although I'd love if this was implemented. Warrior could use a bit more talents that allow for big plays to not just play in zugzug comps.
Didnt think i needed the /s
Lmao missed it, sorry, but you'll see plenty of people agreeing with you so it was probably needed
Yeah, overall I feel like it's been one of the stronger classes. Not S tier, some weaker moments yes, but definitely not "down bad".
It's been S tier at times during this expansion but it's been A tier for most of it and because of its kit it usually finds a viable comp like right now with ret/war.
I wouldn't say S tier, it had zero AWC finals appearances because you'd be stupid to draft a warrior over a dh or a rogue A tier for sure, solid overall, just not op
It was A tier a couple of times and then it was nerfed. They nerfed the execute talent that stacks damage on MS, nerfed Fatality too and buffed sustained, especially in bleeds, but warrior in previous seasons was blasting ppl, didnt last long and it was brought down a bit to a well deserved A tier. True that it didnt perform in AWC finals but that could be for a variety of reasons, not only "it must not be that strong", and in ladder it has been solid.
Warriors are S tier from like 0-2400 and then fall off the better players get Rogues start off like A tier and become SSS tier because there's no counterplay to all the bullshit they have exclusive access to
I checked a couple days ago and warriors were 3rd melee in representation above 2400 above all casters, though alone they don't feel tier S, they are a Tier A spec that goes so well with ret and the comp is easy enough to play that is makes sense. Rogues are always tier S in tourneys but in ladder not so much as not as many people can play them at that level
It depends how much you value competitive balance to your own personal struggles. I just like seeing things to have some parity at the top level because it shows that things can be overcome if you just played better. Instead of things just being absolutely unplayable after a certain point
well thats the point, warriors show up at the top level plenty except tourneys, but AWC and ladder are two different beasts and you'll find two different spec populations there too.
warrior doesnt bring much to the table tbh other than a watered down stun and a fear. intervene does allow flashy plays which will be eyecandy for pro play during awc if it makes it that far
Tells me you think the only utility of a class is their CC which is not. Warrior has access to Disarm, continues being the class with the better healing reduction (which is one of the reasons it synergizes well with most other specs), this expantion it has great mobility, CC immunity with Berzerker Rage, Double Bladestorm and even Banner, can Intervene physical CC which is massive, with the shout talent it also has an aoe root break, a 5% extra damage from everyone, and it has amazing damage. It also has great cleave damage, decent survivability, etc. It's not a surprise Ret/Arms has been one of the strongest comps this season.
What game are you playing? Even when they are down they aren’t down bad. Warriors have ALWAYS had a viable spec between arms and fury outside of MAYBE 1 or 2 patches total. I’m praying to god this is sarcasm and also buff feral.
Yeah didnt think i needed the /s but seems everyone ate it
My bad honestly I see this argument a lot on discord so I wasn’t sure lol
Probably because ret/arms/dh mains will argue to the moon why theyre not actually op haha
Lol...
LOL