Do you mean the opposite? Left is from a preview this week and right has been a gay joke since 2003. (A gay joke that Ribic is apparently in on and knew what he was doing, which is great, lol)
Yeah, Ribic commented on it and he basically just said "the bottle is a penis and how the heck did Marvel not notice that Nightcrawler is naked??". I'm paraphrasing but that's basically it.
With how often we see Logan drinking, I don't think the bottle can be seen as anything other than a bottle.
It would be like the director of the next James Bond saying that Bond holding a gun means X. No, my man, he's had a gun in 25 movies over 60 years, at this point there's absolutely no way him having a gun has any symbolic meaning other than the obvious and apparent.
And no, the placement of the bottle doesn't change anything.
with respect - do you think symbols and visual language can only support a single reading at a time? i’m not sure how else you can arrive at this conclusion… by the author’s own admission it’s literally an intentional homoerotic visual metaphor
>by the author’s own admission it’s literally an intentional homoerotic visual metaphor
Yeah, but how many people will get to the conclusion the artist intended, when beer bottles are the most common thing to see Logan with after his own claws? "Yeah, we've seen him with a beer literally thousands of times, but *this one time* you're actually supposed to know it's symbolic, and not just a beer bottle like the other thousand times".
> but how many people will get to the conclusion the artist intended
A shit ton considering this was a very well known cover that had been discussed to death before Ribic ever even commented on it. (ETA: [This Tumblr post from 9 years ago](https://maxximoffed.tumblr.com/post/109045583825/im-sorry-im-just-not-over-that-wolverine-cover) (so 2015ish) is what prompted Ribic to comment on it - 12 years after the cover had been released. It's discussed further in this [CBR Comic Urban Legends article](https://www.cbr.com/wolverine-racy-cover-marvel-editorial/) from 2017. The cover was a known erotic metaphor for over a decade before it was confirmed by its creator as such)
It's the most homoerotically charged cover in the X-mythos.
>this one time you're actually supposed to know it's symbolic
Phallic objects being portrayed as a phallus certainly isn't a new artistic metaphor and is symbolism that's been in art for hundreds and hundreds of years.
The bottle being a penis is glaringly obvious to most adults with eyes and even passing knowledge of the definition of the word "metaphor"
The best part of the right one is that Ribic did it as a joke thinking editorial wouldn’t accept it. But they didn’t notice and published it. He made jokes after about the placement of the bottle as well.
Just guys being dudes. I mean, are you *not* unabashedly totally naked around your best bros?
The left pic has been discussed to death, but the right pic is weirdly charged, too. Definitely on purpose. Roommates? Edit: Its the opposite, my bad.
Do you mean the opposite? Left is from a preview this week and right has been a gay joke since 2003. (A gay joke that Ribic is apparently in on and knew what he was doing, which is great, lol)
Yeah, Ribic commented on it and he basically just said "the bottle is a penis and how the heck did Marvel not notice that Nightcrawler is naked??". I'm paraphrasing but that's basically it.
With how often we see Logan drinking, I don't think the bottle can be seen as anything other than a bottle. It would be like the director of the next James Bond saying that Bond holding a gun means X. No, my man, he's had a gun in 25 movies over 60 years, at this point there's absolutely no way him having a gun has any symbolic meaning other than the obvious and apparent. And no, the placement of the bottle doesn't change anything.
with respect - do you think symbols and visual language can only support a single reading at a time? i’m not sure how else you can arrive at this conclusion… by the author’s own admission it’s literally an intentional homoerotic visual metaphor
>by the author’s own admission it’s literally an intentional homoerotic visual metaphor Yeah, but how many people will get to the conclusion the artist intended, when beer bottles are the most common thing to see Logan with after his own claws? "Yeah, we've seen him with a beer literally thousands of times, but *this one time* you're actually supposed to know it's symbolic, and not just a beer bottle like the other thousand times".
> but how many people will get to the conclusion the artist intended A shit ton considering this was a very well known cover that had been discussed to death before Ribic ever even commented on it. (ETA: [This Tumblr post from 9 years ago](https://maxximoffed.tumblr.com/post/109045583825/im-sorry-im-just-not-over-that-wolverine-cover) (so 2015ish) is what prompted Ribic to comment on it - 12 years after the cover had been released. It's discussed further in this [CBR Comic Urban Legends article](https://www.cbr.com/wolverine-racy-cover-marvel-editorial/) from 2017. The cover was a known erotic metaphor for over a decade before it was confirmed by its creator as such) It's the most homoerotically charged cover in the X-mythos. >this one time you're actually supposed to know it's symbolic Phallic objects being portrayed as a phallus certainly isn't a new artistic metaphor and is symbolism that's been in art for hundreds and hundreds of years. The bottle being a penis is glaringly obvious to most adults with eyes and even passing knowledge of the definition of the word "metaphor"
I think the point is for it to be subtle, even unnoticeable.
I need some coffee in me. My bad, yes the opposite.
I know that feeling, lol
Oh my god, they were teammates.
I wrote the fanfic… https://archiveofourown.org/works/22534405
I must be imagining it but that fabric fold on the left. ..never mind.
Sorry Morph
Who says that isn’t Morph?
True
'OK show of hands. Who hasn't morph copied just to sleep with people?' .... '......some questions probably are best left unasked.'
Just guys being dudes
these are so fucking sexy for no reason. Idk who I rather be, in this situation....
Why be either one when you can be in-between? 👀
You’re so ducking real for this
Oh there’s a reason why it’s sexy. It was very intentionally drawn as homoerotic. Even that beer bottle was strategically placed.
I know this question has been asked but can Logan actually get drunk or even feel the effects of alcohol due to his healing factor?
Bottle of whiskey will get him tipsy for a few seconds. So it’s all about how much he can throw back.
The man must piss so much out on the lash
he holds it, healing factor keeps his kidneys working
He can if he’s injected with enough aliens drugs first. Keeps his healing factor busy.
Both images are so sexually charged.
And they were roommates
And they'll be housemates again in a few months!
Came here to say this. 🤣
ARE YOU A BEER?
"Elf."
The “Elf” wont be on the top of the shelf this upcoming xmas… but he will be indeed on top of daddy.
Me too Logan, me too.
Just bros being bros
the fingers on the left are fucking me up lmao, when your hands are on your hips the thumb is on the back right?
Not necessarily but it's definitely more comfortable that way. Maybe Kurt is trying to direct the line of sight
Need this in 97
Honestly at this point I'm confused if they are just best buds or just casually hooking up sometimes
yes
Says more about you than about any aspect actually present in the comics
Damn the idea that Logan and Kurt fuck really bothers you, huh?
“Where your clothes at?”~Logan
Nightcrawler ❤
"Put your dick away, Kurt"
Two boys standing in front of each other naked 5 ft apart cuz they're not gay!
The best part of the right one is that Ribic did it as a joke thinking editorial wouldn’t accept it. But they didn’t notice and published it. He made jokes after about the placement of the bottle as well.
History will say they were best friends
Best "buds"
Has Logan had his throat slashed in the left picture or is he just clutching his pearls. Which doesn’t seem a very Logan thing to do.
Wait wouldn't wolverine be best buds with captain america?
Overshipping
Why i thought nighcrawler was scott for a second 😂