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I mean they don't *need* to do Onslaught (and definitely not right away). I think it would be fun if we saw a riff on Legion Quest/Age of Apocalypse for season 2, which could lead neatly into Onslaught for season 3.
Yeah you're right, I forgot that AOA happens before Onslaught. Onslaught will probably be a slow burn. I think they will go with something involving Apocalypse first. Gambit has to be a new horseman.
much as i want to see it, i serisouly doubt it at this point after doing a similar story in the OS (charles klled when younger staring a seperate timeline )
Nothing says it has to be kicked off by Xavier dying. This show has taken tons of liberties and has often been for the better as a result.
Bastion's origin, for example, is almost entirely new and I honestly love the idea of him being a straight up mutant.
As one example, Apocalypse could use some time travel shenanigans that he's able to do as fallout from Beyond Good and Evil to go back and conquer the world before the X-Men are formed.
That all said, they could just do Legion Quest and just lampshade the fact they've done the plot before. As it stands, they already did bits of Fatal Attractions before they did it again just now.
It had better run the length of the entire season.
10 episodes this season was definitely too short for all these numerous storylines they crammed into it.
Trial of Magneto, Inferno, E for Extinction/Mutant Massacre, Fatal Attraction, Bastion/OZT, and Life/Death... so so much content from an entire decade jam packed into 10 episodes...
I really hope Season 2 picks just one or two arcs at most - the main A plot being Onslaught, and flesh it out really in-depth across 10-12 episodes.
honestly it feels like way too much too soon. Like doing all the big 80's and 90's stories practically all at once and getting no time to breathe while pushing the next one.
and I hate Magneto being a villain again already
I’m guessing LegionQuest after Onslaught. Gives the X-Men a chance to deal with Onslaught fall out and an insane Legion trying to fix his father’s legacy.
It feels appropriately reactive. Characters aren't sitting around, padding out pages until the next trade collection to do something. A tragedy happened, followed quickly by another, and characters are acting. I like it too.
It is faster than the 90s shows for both X-Men and Spider-Man, but at the same time feels similar since the pacing in those shows felt breakneck at times too. Spider-Man especially, theres like 10 scene cuts that happen in a span of 15 seconds, and 6 of those cuts are reused animations with different backgrounds to the current setting or super zoomed in shots of their faces. I'm being hyperbolic but thats what it feels like there sometimes too
Man walks up to a hotdog stand and in the span of 5 seconds the hotdog lady pulls out a laser gun and tries to shoot him and he runs off, whole scene is like 12 seconds before it transitions when he runs away lmao
I think what's helping me is in middle school I had a soap opera phase, and the episodes are set up and paced a lot like one. They also make sure every single scene feels purposeful. Even if it was short it wasn't just to fill time, and you instead feel the urgency of the situation.
The quick pace is mostly OK imo - except for the whole Madeline Pryor thing. I actually hate that subplot, wonder what it adds exactly (was it really necessary to adapt that from the comics?), and ultimately, it you're going to confront the characters with such a terrible situation, it should develop way more slowly.
That's fair, I liked how it was handled for the most part, but that one definitely felt accelerated toward the end of that episode. That was the first instance I took notice of how lightning-fast the pacing could get.
>I hate Magneto being a villain already
Well, you're in luck, because if this goes the way of the comic, then this is the last you'll see of villain Magneto for a while.
I'm sad that this could be it for Magneto, he's one of my favourite characters and I've enjoyed seeing him more. But yeah I can't see him being around after the finale. Boo.
They might have gone fast because they didn’t have a guarantee of multiple seasons. Seems like they decided to leave it all on the field if they thought they had only one shot.
Switching him for the Morph would make the most sense. Hell, couldn’t Morph change into him, but not have *that* disadvantage? But we would have nothing to talk about then....
Ironically Logan was the most effective on the Magneto mission too lol, got the helmet off and stabbed him.
Unfortunately Magneto was far past holding back or giving Xavier the time of day
idk man the fact that jean had a clone running around and they BOTH chose scott tells me cyclops has really nothing to worry about. it doesnt feel like much of a love triangle, jeans just not that into logan imo
Thank you! The first thing I said was, "Oh, they brought the man with the metal skeleton to the fight with the master of magnetism." So stupid. It literally only happened for a plot point so they could do this.
I honestly feel like no-nose Logan is way too infamously iconic now not do it. Maybe with better writing than the comics they can actually pull it off.
Do his de-evolution for a couple of episodes then get the adamantium back in him. The writers have done a good enough job of not making Wolverine the main character this season that I'd be down for an episode that's just Logan in Japan fighting ninjas (maybe drag Shadowcat or X-23 into it).
My guess is Logan’s healing factor can’t take it and he “dies”, prompting Apocalypse to revive him, Jean, Gambit and Magneto (assuming he dies next episode) as his new horsemen
Can they?
What kind of turbo elephant tranquilizer they going to use that outpaces his healing factor (he healing factor that he needs to survive the procedure in the first place)?
In the comics, I think Jean held him together until his healing factor kicked in. Jean isn't there, so....idk. Wolverine won't die, though. That's for certain.
I'm still on the fence about this continuation. Madelyne Pryor/Goblin Queen/Inferno wrapped up in one episode. Zero Tolerance happening before Wolverine's evisceration, Cable not from a future ruled by Apocalypse. I know, I'm one of those fans and I suck. But I am really loving all the other comic references they have incorporated into the show. And I'm with you 💯, I want to see him as a Horseman and I think we have a really good shot.
That's a 100% fair critique. They're throwing so much at us and it's a little weird the order that They're going in. It's a hell of a ride though. Yeah I definitely think we have a really good shot at him and gambit being horseman.
I’m betting Logan seemingly dies from this, as will Magneto.
Final episode’s cliffhanger will be Apocalypse raising Gambit, Jean, Wolverine and Magneto as his four horsemen and saying “To me, my X-Men” or “To me, my horsemen”
Cable has the raw power to 1v1 any TK/TP in existence and win. Jean’s heart isn’t in this fight either.
I really think the guy above is onto something. Finale is going to end with Apocalypse resurrecting them all as is Horsemen. It’s too good an idea to pass up!
Especially under Sinister influence. Cable is likely operating with a "techno organic what virus? Full power to blasters" mindset and we all know Cable is OP in that scenario
the moment cable ignores he technorganic virus and decides to use his full tk power he wipes the floor with his opponents. because is the same as Nate Summers. his Age of Apocalypse counterpart that wasn't infected by the virus is a god among mutants
Cable is always using his own powers to stop the virus from spreading to the rest of his body.
It'll be shot to \*look\* like Jean, and we'll be left to think Cable killed Jean - but it'l really be Madelyn that he raises and Jean will be revealed to be okay in season 2
I feel Emma def joins the team next season and takes Jeans place.She’s one of only three survivors from the genosha attack and they probably would’ve just killed her off if they had no plans with her.
Wolverine is too valuable (even as "another X-men member" rather than *the* central character) for them to kill him off. Let's be honest, he's the character who really drew in the most fans.
Beau Demayo: read the Fatal Attractions arc
Me: surely they won’t do THAT
Demayo: Watch Pryde of the X-Men
Me: Hmmmm but still doing THAT would be intense
Xavier: (Takes control of Magneto’s mind)
Me: Phew, they didn’t do THAT
Cyclops stops Xavier, Wolverine stabs Magneto
Me: welp
The comic Beau teased wasn’t the one where they go to asteroid M to confront Magneto but rather one from earlier in the arc where Magneto confronts the X-men at the mansion. The Pryde pilot however does involve an assault on asteroid M.
I mean, you sent a guy with metal bones into battle with the Master of Magnetism. This was forseeable.
(it's even odder in the comic Fatal Attractions arc because Xavier goes through a deep selection process for the strike team going to Avalon, laying out his reasoning for each team member he has included. Including Logan. But makes no consideration for the fact that the guy has metal bones, even after seeing Colossus turned into a weapon against them in several Magneto battles.)
I feel like they are underselling just how many people Magneto should have killed with his blackout. Thousands? In the whole world? Every plane in the air…crashed. Every car losing power would result in so many deaths from car accidents alone. Every hospital losing power, people dead from no life support or complications. Trains, boats, the list goes on. They really needed to double down on just how many people Magneto killed. And that everyone else on the planet will die too.
Yeah I think that’s the flaw in this episode, they dont play into the sheer devastation Magneto caused…and that Magneto has basically only tried to save the X-men and no other mutants.
I think breezing by it in this case is the bigger mistake because it makes Magneto not look as bad as he should. He’s literally going to kill everyone, mutant and human that isn’t with him on his asteroid, and presumably killed way more than thousands already.
For me, it's really strange cause not only humans will die,BUT MUTANTS ALSO,like they're also people of earth, and dealing with damage from Magneto's emp
Yeah, he's talking like he's making asteroid M 2.0 or a new Genosha, but the doomsday clock is at midnight and there are three people on his new mutant paradise.
This episode really got me....Fatal attractions is what got me into actually buying the comics after the show turned me onto xmen when I was 12. Pretty much got every Wolverine comic from 75 to 105 before I stopped.
I really hope they run that series of events as a side plot....I'd also like a better telling of the AoA story then the original, but either way, I'm really enjoying this show
Same! I was just starting to read around X-men 15 and then that happened. HOOKED. I remember all my friends begging to read it. Had the hologram card and everything in the cover
Damn. I’m a massive Wolverine fan. I think the brown costume is better than the yellow and blue in every way.
And I hate bone claws.
The monkey’s paw curls another finger.
Still 11/10 episode though, this show kicks so much ass.
Badass. I love that they're not afraid to go there, possibly even sending Logan off on his own to be hunted one by one by his rogues gallery in this more vulnerable state, without his healing factor or adamantium, next season. :)
People survive more stab wounds than that irl and Magneto in particular has survived for a decent amount of time when he was literally missing his heart.
in the recent judgement day event, he survived getting his heart ripped out by uranos for several hours by using his powers to manipulate the bloodstream, he literally used his powers to survive without a heart.
ig that's what happening here or just plain CB logic
Blood is actually diamagnetic, so it's rebelled by the magnetic field. He can still use that to move it ofcourse, it'll just be inverse controls basically.
I have to ask...what was the thinking behind taking Wolverine out of the costume he was actually wearing when that happened in the comics and putting him in a different one, right before doing the iconic moment?
This.
Before his accelerated devolution after the plot with Genesis/Cypher bone claw Wolverine was one of the best Wolverines.
Better healing, faster, even angrier, lobotomised Sabertooth.....absolute savage.
Tbh, this is the appropriate pace of events if everything on the sliding limescale actually occurred in real time lol. It'd have to be a major world ending event like once a week at LEAST.
I think we get an Apocalypse story arc before Onslaught. Apocalypse is the vehicle for some off the dead Genoshans to return (eg Gambit) and for Wolverine to get adimantium back.
Once the teams are fully assembled, Xavier clicks and turns on them.
I think his logic was that if he let Xavier go through with it then Bastion could active the Sentinels again and Jean's team would get overwhelmed so he wanted to give them more time.
I understand that logic but I don't understand it from the perspective of Jean basically saying "goodbye" to him like she was about to lose.
You know. It's always stupid to bring Wolverine to a Magneto fight. But it's eXtra stupid when you have two teams and the other objective involves robots. Why couldn't he and Morph swapped?
Does anyone else thinks that final scene was too short? Like, when i read that page in the comic i stayed on it way longer than how it was shown. Not to be sadistic but like, i feel it took away from the emotion to just treat it as a millisecond cliffhanger for the next chapter.
My 8 year old son and I thought this was such a great episode. He said this was probably the best episode of a show he’s ever seen. This is definitely a master class on doing nostalgia and a sequel to an old show.
It was gut wrenching when it was done in the comics. It was gut wrenching again with this episode. Quite happy to see some classic uniforms being worn though, especially Wolvie in the black/brown/tan duds.
TBH you kind of have to expect it a little bit with Wolverine. Besides, with the pacing of X-Men ‘97 he’ll be drinking and stabbing people again by the end of next week’s episode!
Think Magneto will have any lasting effects from his partial mindwipe?
"Your efforts have failed, Xavier. You hoped to rob me of my mind. As it is, I have only forgotten where I put my car keys.
Mwahaha!!! Such is always the outcome once you cross the Master Of...Of.....Ahhh....Disaster?"
"Magnetism."
"I knew that!! Curse you, Xavier!!.........What is magnetism?"
Days later:
"Having completely recovered from Xavier's feeble mindwipe attempt, I have made nametags for the New Acolytes. Here, Rogue. Here's yours."
*ROUGE*
"I'm not makeup, sugah. You sure all your dogs are a barkin'?"
"A pox upon the House Of X!! Xavier shall know the fury of my...when did we get dogs?"
"Nevahmind, hun."
"Are they mutant dogs?"
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So looks like Onslaught arc is next
It's wild that they're thinking about doing Onslaught but after doing their version of Fatal Attractions there's no other way.
I mean they don't *need* to do Onslaught (and definitely not right away). I think it would be fun if we saw a riff on Legion Quest/Age of Apocalypse for season 2, which could lead neatly into Onslaught for season 3.
Yeah you're right, I forgot that AOA happens before Onslaught. Onslaught will probably be a slow burn. I think they will go with something involving Apocalypse first. Gambit has to be a new horseman.
Genosha happens way later. They’re not following the comics exactly
Loving the show but unfortunately there's nothing slow burn about it
That's my vote. Gambit as Death and now Wolverine as War.
Agreed! I've been thinking he will become Death since EP.2.
Madelyn as Pestilence?
They are speed running the entire history of the X-Men in two seasons at the rate they are going
I think they will do Age of Apocalypse first. They have been hinting at Bishop disapearance for a while now. He's stuck in AoA
much as i want to see it, i serisouly doubt it at this point after doing a similar story in the OS (charles klled when younger staring a seperate timeline )
Nothing says it has to be kicked off by Xavier dying. This show has taken tons of liberties and has often been for the better as a result. Bastion's origin, for example, is almost entirely new and I honestly love the idea of him being a straight up mutant. As one example, Apocalypse could use some time travel shenanigans that he's able to do as fallout from Beyond Good and Evil to go back and conquer the world before the X-Men are formed. That all said, they could just do Legion Quest and just lampshade the fact they've done the plot before. As it stands, they already did bits of Fatal Attractions before they did it again just now.
the old series already did a butchered version of AoA where a time traveler tries to kill Xavier
They already did Age of Apocalypse BEFORE the comics did. The story One Man's Worth, from XTAS, inspired the AOA storyline in the comics.
It had better run the length of the entire season. 10 episodes this season was definitely too short for all these numerous storylines they crammed into it. Trial of Magneto, Inferno, E for Extinction/Mutant Massacre, Fatal Attraction, Bastion/OZT, and Life/Death... so so much content from an entire decade jam packed into 10 episodes... I really hope Season 2 picks just one or two arcs at most - the main A plot being Onslaught, and flesh it out really in-depth across 10-12 episodes.
honestly it feels like way too much too soon. Like doing all the big 80's and 90's stories practically all at once and getting no time to breathe while pushing the next one. and I hate Magneto being a villain again already
It does kind of make sense though. In the comics, Bastion followed Onslaught pretty closely as the big bad.
Yeah, and once Moira dies, the timeline will reset anyway.
I’m pretty sure she’s already dead, which all but confirms that she isn’t a mutant in this universe
Moira Bots. Moira is Dr. Doom confirmed. Mutant Doom. From Krypton.
perhaps she resets into a different timeline in the universe. We're just viewing one of the timelines that she's been deleted out of.
There's no way they wrote XMen 97 taking into account anything from Krakoa, sorry to say
Hey, at least nightcrawler is around, so Cable can almost choke him out in a graveyard to process his grief over her dying!
I’m guessing LegionQuest after Onslaught. Gives the X-Men a chance to deal with Onslaught fall out and an insane Legion trying to fix his father’s legacy.
I get it feeling too fast, but for some reason, the pacing is working for me.
It feels appropriately reactive. Characters aren't sitting around, padding out pages until the next trade collection to do something. A tragedy happened, followed quickly by another, and characters are acting. I like it too.
It is faster than the 90s shows for both X-Men and Spider-Man, but at the same time feels similar since the pacing in those shows felt breakneck at times too. Spider-Man especially, theres like 10 scene cuts that happen in a span of 15 seconds, and 6 of those cuts are reused animations with different backgrounds to the current setting or super zoomed in shots of their faces. I'm being hyperbolic but thats what it feels like there sometimes too
Man Pete’s little voiceovers are barely finished before the scene is fading into the next. Had to keep us 90s kids’ attention lol
Man walks up to a hotdog stand and in the span of 5 seconds the hotdog lady pulls out a laser gun and tries to shoot him and he runs off, whole scene is like 12 seconds before it transitions when he runs away lmao
Man the second episode of Season 1 had Spiderman relaxing only to immediately get attack by exploding drones. Pure guy's life had no breaks.
I think what's helping me is in middle school I had a soap opera phase, and the episodes are set up and paced a lot like one. They also make sure every single scene feels purposeful. Even if it was short it wasn't just to fill time, and you instead feel the urgency of the situation.
The quick pace is mostly OK imo - except for the whole Madeline Pryor thing. I actually hate that subplot, wonder what it adds exactly (was it really necessary to adapt that from the comics?), and ultimately, it you're going to confront the characters with such a terrible situation, it should develop way more slowly.
That's fair, I liked how it was handled for the most part, but that one definitely felt accelerated toward the end of that episode. That was the first instance I took notice of how lightning-fast the pacing could get.
It works because it's kind of horror. They are always overwhelmed.
>I hate Magneto being a villain already Well, you're in luck, because if this goes the way of the comic, then this is the last you'll see of villain Magneto for a while.
I'm sad that this could be it for Magneto, he's one of my favourite characters and I've enjoyed seeing him more. But yeah I can't see him being around after the finale. Boo.
So up next is Joseph?
Or Xorn! It’s Xornin’ time, everyone!
I will absolutely die if they bring that chain outfit It's simultaneously his best and worst outfit ever
At least they let Rogue and Sunspot join him and let him give a decent speech to Prof X, that was SOMETHING
They ran through Days of Future Past, Xtinction Agenda and Fall of the Mutants in the first season of TAS, if memory serves.
This is X-Men 97. They fly through months/years of stories in 40 minutes.
They might have gone fast because they didn’t have a guarantee of multiple seasons. Seems like they decided to leave it all on the field if they thought they had only one shot.
I'd say they jump to AoA.
Or Ultimatum😱
Cant wait😁
im not familar why does wolverine losing his bones is related to onslaught?
Was such an awesome ending! I can't believe next week is the finale :(
think of the pros, the show has been cleared for season 3 even before the ep 7 went live
Dang, I'd learned to give up hope after season 2
Yeah but "he who shall not be honored" won't be the head writer for s3. So we'll have to find out if it's still as comics respectful.
Expected that when they split the team and he was on that mission. Logan was 100% a better fit for the other mission.
Switching him for the Morph would make the most sense. Hell, couldn’t Morph change into him, but not have *that* disadvantage? But we would have nothing to talk about then....
Would Morph be willing to kill Magneto? Seems like that was Logan’s main purpose on that team
Ironically Logan was the most effective on the Magneto mission too lol, got the helmet off and stabbed him. Unfortunately Magneto was far past holding back or giving Xavier the time of day
This bothered me because Logan seems like the person least able to kill Magneto.
Nah Cylops is too smart to let Logan be anywhere with Jean.
Considering Wolverine could’ve cucked him but chose not to..
idk man the fact that jean had a clone running around and they BOTH chose scott tells me cyclops has really nothing to worry about. it doesnt feel like much of a love triangle, jeans just not that into logan imo
Exactly. "Wolverine vs Magneto? really?" Is a running joke at this point
Thank you! The first thing I said was, "Oh, they brought the man with the metal skeleton to the fight with the master of magnetism." So stupid. It literally only happened for a plot point so they could do this.
Best thing about this is the use of the exact pose from the comics.
The accuracy to the comic panel blew my mind. I guess they will be doing bone claws Logan no? Pretty pumped for that.
Long as they don't do his weird feral look
No-nose Logan, reporting for duty.
Scooberine: "Ruh roh Jeanie."
And it doesn't go across multiple seasons or a long time like the comics.
I honestly feel like no-nose Logan is way too infamously iconic now not do it. Maybe with better writing than the comics they can actually pull it off.
Do his de-evolution for a couple of episodes then get the adamantium back in him. The writers have done a good enough job of not making Wolverine the main character this season that I'd be down for an episode that's just Logan in Japan fighting ninjas (maybe drag Shadowcat or X-23 into it).
OR AKIHIRO.
My guess is Logan’s healing factor can’t take it and he “dies”, prompting Apocalypse to revive him, Jean, Gambit and Magneto (assuming he dies next episode) as his new horsemen
Maybe but I think the deal with Magneto will be more he gets into a coma after Xavier mindwipes him leading into Onslaught
This!
Yeah I think they'll do that and have Gambit come back as Death.
Bloodscream, Albert and Elsie Dee, Cyber, lead-up to AoA? Ok, the show had my curiosity. Now it has my attention!
Or he’ll just have no claws. Depends on if they want to retcon him having bone claws or not
can't they just pump him full of adanabtium again ?
It's extremely rare and extremely painful and unethical.
They can sedate him
Can they? What kind of turbo elephant tranquilizer they going to use that outpaces his healing factor (he healing factor that he needs to survive the procedure in the first place)?
Jean's used panties.
Just remembered that they can’t
In the comics, I think Jean held him together until his healing factor kicked in. Jean isn't there, so....idk. Wolverine won't die, though. That's for certain.
Jean held him together while he was in a coma, and he woke up to save her from flying out of the blackbird, or whatever ship they were on.
they have Roberto there, maybe he could do some cauterization lol
Next Season Apocalypse is probably gonna give him the adamantium back when they revive Gambit.
Man doing Onslaught and the Apocalypse in one season also feels like it's going to be a huge rush
It's already a huge rush, how many arcs and changes have been rolled into this so far and it's only the 9th episode.
When has ethics ever stopped Charles Francis Xavier?
Apocalypse, for a short time, makes Wolverine his horseman of Death, and re-graphs the metal to his bones.
So Apocalypse will be in the next season and two potential horsemen are Wolverine and Gambit?
You bring up a really good point. I tip my hat to you. I forgot Gambit was a horseman after the events of Decimation.
We better get the Battle between him and Sabertooth deciding who should be Death.
I would love if they made him a Horseman after this. The way they've been going they might.
I'm still on the fence about this continuation. Madelyne Pryor/Goblin Queen/Inferno wrapped up in one episode. Zero Tolerance happening before Wolverine's evisceration, Cable not from a future ruled by Apocalypse. I know, I'm one of those fans and I suck. But I am really loving all the other comic references they have incorporated into the show. And I'm with you 💯, I want to see him as a Horseman and I think we have a really good shot.
That's a 100% fair critique. They're throwing so much at us and it's a little weird the order that They're going in. It's a hell of a ride though. Yeah I definitely think we have a really good shot at him and gambit being horseman.
I’m betting Logan seemingly dies from this, as will Magneto. Final episode’s cliffhanger will be Apocalypse raising Gambit, Jean, Wolverine and Magneto as his four horsemen and saying “To me, my X-Men” or “To me, my horsemen”
I don’t think Cable could have taken Jean out like that. She might pull a Phoenix in the final ep.
Cable is crazy powerful, but also, Jean's holding back. Cable doesn't think of her as family, but she does for him.
Cable wasn't just not thinking of her as family he was also being mentally influenced by Sinister too
Cable has the raw power to 1v1 any TK/TP in existence and win. Jean’s heart isn’t in this fight either. I really think the guy above is onto something. Finale is going to end with Apocalypse resurrecting them all as is Horsemen. It’s too good an idea to pass up!
Especially under Sinister influence. Cable is likely operating with a "techno organic what virus? Full power to blasters" mindset and we all know Cable is OP in that scenario
I agree. We've seen way too much Phoenix in the opening credits this season for her to not figure into things.
> She might pull a Phoenix in the final ep. Would be a good lead into the New X-Men stories, especially with Emma having survived Genosha.
the moment cable ignores he technorganic virus and decides to use his full tk power he wipes the floor with his opponents. because is the same as Nate Summers. his Age of Apocalypse counterpart that wasn't infected by the virus is a god among mutants Cable is always using his own powers to stop the virus from spreading to the rest of his body.
It'll be shot to \*look\* like Jean, and we'll be left to think Cable killed Jean - but it'l really be Madelyn that he raises and Jean will be revealed to be okay in season 2
That would actually slap. Throw in an Onslaught tease too
I feel Emma def joins the team next season and takes Jeans place.She’s one of only three survivors from the genosha attack and they probably would’ve just killed her off if they had no plans with her.
Wolverine is too valuable (even as "another X-men member" rather than *the* central character) for them to kill him off. Let's be honest, he's the character who really drew in the most fans.
Beau Demayo: read the Fatal Attractions arc Me: surely they won’t do THAT Demayo: Watch Pryde of the X-Men Me: Hmmmm but still doing THAT would be intense Xavier: (Takes control of Magneto’s mind) Me: Phew, they didn’t do THAT Cyclops stops Xavier, Wolverine stabs Magneto Me: welp
Wait what is the *Pryde* hint?
The comic Beau teased wasn’t the one where they go to asteroid M to confront Magneto but rather one from earlier in the arc where Magneto confronts the X-men at the mansion. The Pryde pilot however does involve an assault on asteroid M.
The Pryde of the X-Men blackbird makes a cameo on Muir Island too.
Most of the X-Men rocking those period costumes, while fighting Magneto in space.
I’m pretty sure the Pryde hint was just related to the costume change
I’m getting feeling we’re gonna get return of Apocalypse and his Four horseman in the next seasons. Wolverine as War and Gambit as Death, can’t wait.
Agree but I don't think Magneto or Jean will also be horse(wo)men
I don’t think Jean will die, it’s most likely Cable
I mean, you sent a guy with metal bones into battle with the Master of Magnetism. This was forseeable. (it's even odder in the comic Fatal Attractions arc because Xavier goes through a deep selection process for the strike team going to Avalon, laying out his reasoning for each team member he has included. Including Logan. But makes no consideration for the fact that the guy has metal bones, even after seeing Colossus turned into a weapon against them in several Magneto battles.)
Yep it's quite silly and just peak "Wolverine has to be in all the things"
I feel like they are underselling just how many people Magneto should have killed with his blackout. Thousands? In the whole world? Every plane in the air…crashed. Every car losing power would result in so many deaths from car accidents alone. Every hospital losing power, people dead from no life support or complications. Trains, boats, the list goes on. They really needed to double down on just how many people Magneto killed. And that everyone else on the planet will die too.
And even on top of what already happened, given what we're told in this episode, we can expect a death toll in the **billions** in very short order.
Yeah I think that’s the flaw in this episode, they dont play into the sheer devastation Magneto caused…and that Magneto has basically only tried to save the X-men and no other mutants.
it's like the thanos snapping situation...i think we just breezed by how many would have died in *addition* to the half of the world we lost lol.
I think breezing by it in this case is the bigger mistake because it makes Magneto not look as bad as he should. He’s literally going to kill everyone, mutant and human that isn’t with him on his asteroid, and presumably killed way more than thousands already.
For me, it's really strange cause not only humans will die,BUT MUTANTS ALSO,like they're also people of earth, and dealing with damage from Magneto's emp
Yeah, he's talking like he's making asteroid M 2.0 or a new Genosha, but the doomsday clock is at midnight and there are three people on his new mutant paradise.
Like all those survivors clinging to life in triage on Genosha
At least the motive for Rogue/Sunspot to rejoin Xavier is pretty clear
Goodbye wolverine’s Nose lol
Lol oh man those were rough times for ol' Logan
Ha! 30+ years later & people still know what you mean when you say noseless Wolverine.
This episode really got me....Fatal attractions is what got me into actually buying the comics after the show turned me onto xmen when I was 12. Pretty much got every Wolverine comic from 75 to 105 before I stopped. I really hope they run that series of events as a side plot....I'd also like a better telling of the AoA story then the original, but either way, I'm really enjoying this show
I would love for the show to do AoA but knowing this pacing it'll be completely told in like 2 episodes max which is insane
Same! I was just starting to read around X-men 15 and then that happened. HOOKED. I remember all my friends begging to read it. Had the hologram card and everything in the cover
Damn. I’m a massive Wolverine fan. I think the brown costume is better than the yellow and blue in every way. And I hate bone claws. The monkey’s paw curls another finger. Still 11/10 episode though, this show kicks so much ass.
Brown suit Wolvie is best Wolvie!
Whole episode I was like “Logan please don’t be trying to fight a man who historically — damn, history repeating…”
Did he just rip the adamantium out of his bones?
Yes. He liquefied it and tore it out through his pores.
Badass. I love that they're not afraid to go there, possibly even sending Logan off on his own to be hunted one by one by his rogues gallery in this more vulnerable state, without his healing factor or adamantium, next season. :)
Magneto- “You should’ve gone for the head”
Can someone explain to me how Magneto survives being impaled by adamantium claws???
People survive more stab wounds than that irl and Magneto in particular has survived for a decent amount of time when he was literally missing his heart.
in the recent judgement day event, he survived getting his heart ripped out by uranos for several hours by using his powers to manipulate the bloodstream, he literally used his powers to survive without a heart. ig that's what happening here or just plain CB logic
People don’t instantly die from stab wounds.
I was honestly shocked animated Wolverine finally got to stab someone at all
And with *blood visible on-screen*, at that!
My guess is that the showrunners know their audience. It's mostly us who were teens when this came out and I'm in my 40s now.
Also most of what kills from a stab wound (unless it damages organ function) is blood loss. Blood is full of iron. Magneto is the master of magnetism.
Blood is actually diamagnetic, so it's rebelled by the magnetic field. He can still use that to move it ofcourse, it'll just be inverse controls basically.
Magneto can pump his own blood, boy don't need a heart. A little stab wound ain't going to do shit.
Given the levels of Iron in blood, I wouldnt doubt he is able to stop himself bleeding out, since he has shown more insane feats in the show
I have to ask...what was the thinking behind taking Wolverine out of the costume he was actually wearing when that happened in the comics and putting him in a different one, right before doing the iconic moment?
To subvert expectations a little mostly. That and to homage Pryde of the X-Men.
Decent question but I guess they just wanted him to be part of the big iconic scene of switching costumes
Wolverine is no longer magnetic, and is also super pissed. Good job, idiot. NOW TURN THE EARTH’S MAGNETIC FIELD BACK ON
I was hoping they wouldn't do bone claw Wolverine. I've been dreading it since last week.
Bone claw Wolverine is fine as long as they don't also do feral noseless Wolverine.
This. Before his accelerated devolution after the plot with Genesis/Cypher bone claw Wolverine was one of the best Wolverines. Better healing, faster, even angrier, lobotomised Sabertooth.....absolute savage.
Why?
Tbh, this is the appropriate pace of events if everything on the sliding limescale actually occurred in real time lol. It'd have to be a major world ending event like once a week at LEAST.
I think we get an Apocalypse story arc before Onslaught. Apocalypse is the vehicle for some off the dead Genoshans to return (eg Gambit) and for Wolverine to get adimantium back. Once the teams are fully assembled, Xavier clicks and turns on them.
I rly loved this episode but imo cyclops fucked it up in the end
I think his logic was that if he let Xavier go through with it then Bastion could active the Sentinels again and Jean's team would get overwhelmed so he wanted to give them more time. I understand that logic but I don't understand it from the perspective of Jean basically saying "goodbye" to him like she was about to lose.
maybe jean knew she was overpower and gona die and wanted to say she loves cyclops one last time
I'm cutting him some slack because whatever the intent was for him stopping Xavier, it didn't mesh well with the presentation.
You know. It's always stupid to bring Wolverine to a Magneto fight. But it's eXtra stupid when you have two teams and the other objective involves robots. Why couldn't he and Morph swapped?
Because... Fatal Attractions gotta Fatal Attraction.
#GIVE ME ONSLAUGHT
as soon as they had Magneto emp the planet i figured(and hoped) this is where they were going. really excited to see how the aftermath is handled
He had it coming
🎶He only had himself to blame 🎶
So did magneto
The bar they’ve set with this season is in outer space.
I feel so left out because I stopped reading the comic in the laye 80s. Life happens and could no longer afford luxuries such as comic books.
Does anyone else thinks that final scene was too short? Like, when i read that page in the comic i stayed on it way longer than how it was shown. Not to be sadistic but like, i feel it took away from the emotion to just treat it as a millisecond cliffhanger for the next chapter.
Yeah, it could have been a little slower and drawn out. But then again, if there's one thing X-Men '97 does, it's speedrun through things.
This show is so damn good!😭
My 8 year old son and I thought this was such a great episode. He said this was probably the best episode of a show he’s ever seen. This is definitely a master class on doing nostalgia and a sequel to an old show.
Yeah I was not expecting to see Logan do *that* to Magneto.
Onslaught/Bone
It was gut wrenching when it was done in the comics. It was gut wrenching again with this episode. Quite happy to see some classic uniforms being worn though, especially Wolvie in the black/brown/tan duds.
Im speechless.
I audibly gasped. Couldn’t believe it
Write the episode number in the title next time
[Here's a side-by-side from the comics](https://imgur.com/a/5NalIDm)
I kinda wish they did Executioners Song. Imagine Nathan gets sent to the future and the next time anyone sees him he shoots Xavier
How did he turn the adamantium into a liquid again?!
Logan was a idiot here, he could have given magneto the new x-men treatment
As soon as Magneto hit the EMP I knew it was headed this route
Oh. That’s gore of my comfort character
TBH you kind of have to expect it a little bit with Wolverine. Besides, with the pacing of X-Men ‘97 he’ll be drinking and stabbing people again by the end of next week’s episode!
Why does everyone in the comments want Onslaught so badly? I thought those comics were pretty much universally panned.
Nostalgia is wild. But like…I want it.
An adaptation is a good opportunity to do it better than the comics.
"Off ouch my bones"-Logan
Think Magneto will have any lasting effects from his partial mindwipe? "Your efforts have failed, Xavier. You hoped to rob me of my mind. As it is, I have only forgotten where I put my car keys. Mwahaha!!! Such is always the outcome once you cross the Master Of...Of.....Ahhh....Disaster?" "Magnetism." "I knew that!! Curse you, Xavier!!.........What is magnetism?" Days later: "Having completely recovered from Xavier's feeble mindwipe attempt, I have made nametags for the New Acolytes. Here, Rogue. Here's yours." *ROUGE* "I'm not makeup, sugah. You sure all your dogs are a barkin'?" "A pox upon the House Of X!! Xavier shall know the fury of my...when did we get dogs?" "Nevahmind, hun." "Are they mutant dogs?"