Using YGOtopdecks for this but, for worlds winning decks, the answer is no. More cards means less consistency and it generally just makes more sense to run the lowest number of cards so you're more likely to draw the shit that gets you going. That's likely why the deck size limit wasn't in place originally - big decks aren't that good competitively so who's going to run one that big. A deck size limit wasn't needed because such ridiculously large decks were good in any meaning of the word, but because decks that size fuck with tournaments by slowing shit down to a crawl.
… and cl 9,353 Shaddoll Aerial targeting my 3 Necro Faces in the GY… somewhere, cl 9,354 Merli to shuffle back and fuse and finally cl 9,355 Shaddoll beast to draw a card, all after milling those 42,029 cards. Response?
No they cannot? If multiple trigger effects meet their condition, the player in question needs to declare every effect they wanna use before you can respond. They do not have to ask you for response 9300 times.
Magic approached it differently and made it a matter of shuffling it in a reasonable amount of time and unassisted. If you want to play your 900 card deck, you absolutely can. But you will probably be disqualified for slow play because you take 5 minutes to shuffle it every time you search for a card.
Present 40 card deck, then add 5 to the top before you draw. You can also stack your deck and pile shuffle a certain way to get the 5 cards you want on top. Back then you were allowed to cut back if your opponent cuts your deck for some stupid reason. So you can just cut back with a marked card.
They were hidden somewhere.
http://kperovic.com/metagame/yugiohf031.html?tabid=33&ArticleId=9155
Very last decklist. There's no sensible reason for his deck to be 45 cards.
This is 2005-2007, who actually gets caught. It's known most of the top players back then were cheaters. The 45 card BS was told by someone on DGZ back then.
I ran a few hundred cards in my deck back in the day. Got so bad my friend handed me 40 sleeves and said I was required to use them to play and cut my deck down haha.
Magic the gathering doesn’t have a deck limit unless you play commander. They do have a few rules where you need to be able to shuffle your deck without assistance and in a timely manor though.
You know they may have had a point but I will never forgive them for taking away from me the opportunity to drop the fattest grass looks greener yu-gi-oh has ever seen.
Imagine playing ishizu branded despia tearlaments deck with that that amount of deck + no banlist
Edit it's not enough: let's add more archetype like bystial and predaplant
I wonder if the size cap would be different if we had the auto shuffler and searcher that the anime has. Obviously the deck pictured would be far too large, but I imagine an 80 card deck could be possible.
I've been wanting an auto shuffler that works well and won't damage my Yu-Gi-Oh cards.
I'd be willing to drop up to 100$ on it as long as it was quality and wouldn't break right away.
Shuffling is the main reason I hate IRL YGO cuz I suck at it lol
Well I personally run more "situaitional cards such as extra cyclones and The DPE Engine as an extender/interuption. But Im sure I'll keep bricking even if my deck gets better combo starters/ends. Its just my luck.
Nah a minimum of 30 means less handtraps. It also means that the modern meta deck is more likely to draw 1 card combos and extenders. Going second would be impossible since T1 would always have a full power board.
That is why newer tcgs have bigger deck restrictions (60 for OP and DB). Less consistency and allows for longer games.
30 card decks are so consistent.
Duel Links has the 20-30 card META and gets TCG stuff late but eventually.
If your deck sucks at 40 cards but you think it might be great at 20-30 try it out and see and if you like it then just wait for it to release on duel links and play it there lol
For example I play-tested a 30 card Ursarctic Deck and it was mad consistent 👍
Using YGOtopdecks for this but, for worlds winning decks, the answer is no. More cards means less consistency and it generally just makes more sense to run the lowest number of cards so you're more likely to draw the shit that gets you going. That's likely why the deck size limit wasn't in place originally - big decks aren't that good competitively so who's going to run one that big. A deck size limit wasn't needed because such ridiculously large decks were good in any meaning of the word, but because decks that size fuck with tournaments by slowing shit down to a crawl.
Imagine a 1k card Grass mill.
… and cl 9,353 Shaddoll Aerial targeting my 3 Necro Faces in the GY… somewhere, cl 9,354 Merli to shuffle back and fuse and finally cl 9,355 Shaddoll beast to draw a card, all after milling those 42,029 cards. Response?
Chain Tachyon Transmigration
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No they cannot? If multiple trigger effects meet their condition, the player in question needs to declare every effect they wanna use before you can respond. They do not have to ask you for response 9300 times.
Yeah, you're right, I had a brainfart out of nowhere thinking they're quicks rather than triggers, my bad.
I will now pay half my life points, and activate Vanity's Call. :U
You don't want to because you're already in time by then.
I mean, you can also save everyone time, and say "whatever your chain order is, I flip this."
Good luck opening it
Grass players always find a way
https://preview.redd.it/p7vqybjarqec1.png?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f4ef96e8b0d18e1a06106574cc287b0706d8eba3
reasoning would also go hard
Magic approached it differently and made it a matter of shuffling it in a reasonable amount of time and unassisted. If you want to play your 900 card deck, you absolutely can. But you will probably be disqualified for slow play because you take 5 minutes to shuffle it every time you search for a card.
The 8,888,000 ATK and DEF Gren Maju de Aiza when you banish the user's cards.
for the longest time it was comically bad playing more than 40 cards for any reason
The biggest was 45 played by a multi-SJC champ so he could cheat.
Ooh spill the tea! What happened
Present 40 card deck, then add 5 to the top before you draw. You can also stack your deck and pile shuffle a certain way to get the 5 cards you want on top. Back then you were allowed to cut back if your opponent cuts your deck for some stupid reason. So you can just cut back with a marked card.
Damn dude that's some Bandit Keith shit there!
Huh, so the 5 extra cards were hidden up their sleeve?
They were hidden somewhere. http://kperovic.com/metagame/yugiohf031.html?tabid=33&ArticleId=9155 Very last decklist. There's no sensible reason for his deck to be 45 cards.
So was he caught or did people think that way?
This is 2005-2007, who actually gets caught. It's known most of the top players back then were cheaters. The 45 card BS was told by someone on DGZ back then.
I don't get it either, does this mean he has 10 cards in hand instead of 5?
No, he has 5 that he has specifically chosen, and snuck onto the top of his deck so he draws them turn 1
Unsleeved 100+ card decks were the classic meta for Toys R' Us era Yugioh.
I love how these guys are dressed up for this, men came with a plan & succeeded 😂
Really feels like characters from the old school anime.
They were on a mission from God thats why they dressed up like the blues brothers 😎
I'm going to assume the God was Slifer. Needed a way to get as many as possible in hand.
I ran a few hundred cards in my deck back in the day. Got so bad my friend handed me 40 sleeves and said I was required to use them to play and cut my deck down haha.
Must've taken hours to make those cuts
Magic the gathering doesn’t have a deck limit unless you play commander. They do have a few rules where you need to be able to shuffle your deck without assistance and in a timely manor though.
Average MD player = showing up with a "pile"
You know they may have had a point but I will never forgive them for taking away from me the opportunity to drop the fattest grass looks greener yu-gi-oh has ever seen.
As in, you put the deck on the table then topple the tower?
Yes.
Imagine playing ishizu branded despia tearlaments deck with that that amount of deck + no banlist Edit it's not enough: let's add more archetype like bystial and predaplant
If you don't have a banlist (and even if you did) Why include branded cards in with all of the good cards?
You still have a limit of 3 copies of a card per deck, gotta add something.
Add more fusion archetype
Not related but these guys were such CHADS The contraption to draw cards was such a sight to behold
Yomifrog <3 It's somehow sad, that his legacy now is "enforced the deck limit". This guy literally wrote the modern rulebook.
I wonder if the size cap would be different if we had the auto shuffler and searcher that the anime has. Obviously the deck pictured would be far too large, but I imagine an 80 card deck could be possible.
I've been wanting an auto shuffler that works well and won't damage my Yu-Gi-Oh cards. I'd be willing to drop up to 100$ on it as long as it was quality and wouldn't break right away. Shuffling is the main reason I hate IRL YGO cuz I suck at it lol
Been there back then at german nats in 2007. Judges were shivering when they saw this happening🤣
i think the minimum now should be 50 cards. lots of decks now run that amount so it would be nice if it was official
That would be pretty interesting. Would force people to run extra engines or mix two archetypes together.
Oh so I can just run all my extra stuff in the maindeck. Thanks?
If you like bricking then by all means
Well I personally run more "situaitional cards such as extra cyclones and The DPE Engine as an extender/interuption. But Im sure I'll keep bricking even if my deck gets better combo starters/ends. Its just my luck.
Should be the other way around. Maximum of 50, minimum of 30
Nah a minimum of 30 means less handtraps. It also means that the modern meta deck is more likely to draw 1 card combos and extenders. Going second would be impossible since T1 would always have a full power board. That is why newer tcgs have bigger deck restrictions (60 for OP and DB). Less consistency and allows for longer games.
30 card decks are so consistent. Duel Links has the 20-30 card META and gets TCG stuff late but eventually. If your deck sucks at 40 cards but you think it might be great at 20-30 try it out and see and if you like it then just wait for it to release on duel links and play it there lol For example I play-tested a 30 card Ursarctic Deck and it was mad consistent 👍
How in the name of Ra did they shuffle that monster? Like surely that would be a enormous pain in the ass
Fun fact about those 2 guys with their 2,222 card deck. They named the deck "Mishon Impossible" and in German. "Mishon" means "to Shuffle."