Fuck the nintendo triads 🖕🏻 switch 2 will be emulated in no time as nintendo just want to give as little as possible for the biggest price tags. They are taking the piss now
How about that Gary's Mod story from last week too eh where Nintendont wants all mods based off their IPs taken down but Valve said Nintendo has to tell all modders to get rid of them all 30000+ lmfao.....
Oh and what money is Nintendont losing on those mods for games that they have 0 development for? Asking for a friend 🙂🙃🙂🙃🙂
Ah yes the people that people like me can attack full force and face no prosecution. They are last on the list but will be the most fun since they have no civil rights to worry about.
The flashcart makers are also the mob and run sex slavery rings. Do you approve sex slavery too?
They will be the most fun as I get to target slavers who rape children. I get to laugh as I wreck all they own.
You bring up a hard subject that does need to be addressed as a society.
In USA we plan to start making batteries here with that massive lithium deposit and change that.
We are moving away from business in China in general. USA is the only country with the balls to stand up to that.
Reading this as I'm having a heavy panic attack and trying to get my mind off things, as u may notice I have a lot of shit going on in my life, I have acted exactly like you do I this comment section and I srsly suggest taking a step back and try to treat this long term so u don't feel worse and worse. Pls take care
This new generation of gamers is wild dude. You should feel extremely lucky that you were able to emulate a current console and even play games before they released. It’s never happened and likely won’t ever happen again because of this specifically. Microsoft made the mistake a long time ago with the Xbox but this really puts the nail in the coffin for console makers that proprietary hardware is going to be the only way to go to prevent piracy. Similar to how Sony made ps3 complex and proprietary and it can’t be emulated properly to this day.
Everyone pushed this so much and for what? Did any of these forks actually achieve something? What big releases came out between yuzus explosion and right now? Right… it’s just a bunch of clout chasing coattail riders adding menu features. This is a far cry from the old days of emulation and the brain drain from yuzus disbandment will be felt for years to come.
There was never any reason to engage with any of the forks. You could’ve just torrented a yuzu nightly on 1337x or found it in any of the many archives it was available in since then. All this did was stoke a fire under Nintendo and I never saw the value in pushing it because the console is current. If the scene doesn’t back off we might be stuck for awhile.
Dont forget Xbox series X/S dev mode to play emulators , right now developer aerisarn manage to make citra on Retroarch work , emulation is the key, Nintendo destroys emulation for them is about money, for us is about the value of retrogames , hope to see yutzu or Ryujinx ported uwp....
To add on this...
"Some" emulators takes many years to get up and running games. Starting early like Yuzu did was a great idea however releasing it to the general public while the Nintendo Switch is still pumping out games and consoles was its downfall.
You mean like the Connectix Virtual Game Station? The one that got sued by Apple and they lost the case so they just bought the company to shut it down? Which you can't do with open source software? Just wondering if u mean that
Yuzu is the more popular of the 2. Nintendo basically does not want people to play leaked copies of games on emulators. The fact they did not go after Ryujinx is simply cuz it is less popular and there for lesser talked about and there for Nintendo is less likely to know it is a thing
Both are legal. The problem lies in how DMCA Takedown works.
Yuzu's original team folded, this means the case didn't go to court, which means that Yuzu was not proved to be illegal.
What went to [court was the settlement](https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.rid.56980/gov.uscourts.rid.56980.11.0.pdf), which ordered the Yuzu Team to delete everything and hand things to Nintendo.
It was never said or implied that Nintendo had the right to take down any derivative work or copies made by unrelated entities, only the ones that were under control of the Yuzu Team and related entities.
Now things get sketchy: Nintendo is not allowed to take down arbitrary copies of Yuzu, but they are probably making the argument that those people were involved directly with the Yuzu Team, therefore it must be taken down.
However, that's not what the agreement says, the agreement says that the Yuzu Team has to destroy and take down things, not that Nintendo has the right to do so.
So another argument from Nintendo is that it was agreed in court that Yuzu violates the DMCA, but that's not true, it was agreed that software that only functions when the illegally obtained keys are integrated, breaks the DMCA, but Yuzu works without the keys for non-encrypted apps (homebrew).
Nintendo is just being Nintendo and doing whatever they want just because they can.
Yeah they really are being cunts about this since the entire piracy part is unrecommended by yuzu and completely on the user side they have to make up some bullshit, I feel bad for the yuzu team and Nintendo fans who won't get a chance to use it now
Oh it will be back. Quite frankly, this part of Nintendo needs to be put out there but nobody wants to talk about it”pirating” games so we don’t. We gotta find a better way to talk about it
I think you're right that selling an emulator directly is illegal. Accepting donation money for early access? I don't think that's illegal, that's definitely more grey area. Ryujinx has a patreon too.
Yuzu selling a paid version with TotK optimizations? Almost definitely illegal.
They sold an app that plays Nintendo games, pirated or not. It's really easy to understand. Yuzu should have kept it totally free, nintendo wouldn't have a leg to stand on
This isn't how copyright law works. If the code doesn't contain anything belonging to Nintendo then the DMCA is kinda void
Also there's this thing called Not America where you can also store code
Fine, the code doesnt belong to Nintendo, but when said code allows you to play games which are copy protected by using stolen keys (prod.key file etc) its already getting veeeery iffy
False. It's not even close to iffy if users have to seek out those keys themselves. I'm not on either side of this, but if the emulator doesn't come with the prod keys, it's a very much legal piece of software. I think that Yuzu devs were dumb, yes, but that doesn't change the law regarding this.
So what is the law on decrypting games via keys to be run on unauthorized devices? That is essentially whats happening here.
If you are going to mention something like Bleem....well PSX CDs were not encrypted, you could see the contents of the disc on any PC with a cd drive.
So I really dont think older court decisions about emulation is applicable here since we are dealing with a different beast here.
It's not as complicated as you're making it seem. You can dump keys from your switch. They're required to play games you own. That makes it a required and legal piece needed to make the emulator work.
It's not an unauthorized device. Emulators are legal. Playing games you own through an emulator is legal. That means taking your prod keys from your switch to make your games playable is legal.
Yuzu made some possibly illegal actions, and as part of a settlement agreement with Nintendo they transferred over the rights to everything they had... Now considering the fact this is a GPL licensed project...... I have no effing clue whether technically the settlement contract is legally binding for the stuff legally created, and how to determine what parts of the code would not be subject to the dmca violations based on yuzu not following good cleanroom practices
Yes but illegally created code I assume can't also be open sourced, they somehow have an agreement to the ownership of all created material being transferred to Nintendo, I'm fairly certain some of that can't be claimed by Nintendo but it's on the people hosting it to somehow prove it was legally created... Seems like a hard thing to do given they are third parties by necessity... The only people with most of the information that can do anything all is Nintendo, unless they tell you what is illegal to host instead of just dmca in the entire project, no one will know. It would basically require a lawsuit and a lawyers requesting Discovery to figure out what things Nintendo owns from the repository because they were not legally created under a valid GPL license, I'm basically saying the entire project has been tainted and outside of getting sued and going through the court to figure out what you did wrong, you have no way of knowing what you could be sued for
Agree on the second part though, and people agreeing to take down the entire repo are at fault there (there are other factors at work than what i wrote before but i’m too tired to mark everything)
Mind you nintendo is known for suing everyone on everything, so it’s possible nothing at all really touches their ip
Code can’t be illegally created (sorry i have issues with sentences 😅).
On the other hand you can have copy of code that doesn’t belong to you (which is an issue when it’s not open source) or in the case of emulators code created by reverse engineer something, basically you are not following the guidelines to make it non suable, but it is very hard to prove, your code would have to basically be copy pasta from the original system code as as long as you don’t have code from the original system in your emulator there are few things they can do to you.
ToTk runs at a fix 60 fps on my old version of yuzu still while I barely manage 45 fps on the most up to date Ryujinx. All my other games suffer from the same issue. Sorry but not for me.
yeah digital preservation of a still going console, no get real and stop lying to you yall just want to play switch on pc. it's okay it's cool to play the Switch on pc i agree but just use ryujinx. dont tell me "but the poor android users🥺🥺" cause it's literally playing way worse than a real switch, exept for piracy, realisticaly there's no reason to play switch on phone
What do you mean banned?
I don't think that's what happened, man. Stop making stuff up.
They stopped the development of it from the people that were originally working on it. If I were to take the code and make my own yuzu fork. I would totally be able to without question. That's why they're going after the hosters, not that actual projects
It does kinda make me mad how freaking nuts nintendo is. Striking 20 year old mods that say nintendo in them, stealing open source emulators and using them on their own consoles without crediting people. Nintendo is for sure a big fat cunt. I think we can all agree on that.
And yeah your right no one wants to go up against a multi billion dollar company or whatever they are. Imagine having billions and your console can't do 60 fps🤣 bunch of clowns
yes Nintendo can be annoying, but give me source ple about them stealing emulators source code and using them.
also you're complaining about a 7 year old console that have even at release outdated hardware, it was chosen to be like that cause that would make the switch very cheap: they always did that with every generations since the gamecube and it's perfectly fine. games play absolutlly well with 30 fps and there's nothing wrong with it
but yeah what a bunch of clowns they are protecting their ip and selling cheap game device so everyone can play on it >:(
>just use ryujinx it's literally better
That's an absurd thing to just say when everyone's hardware is different. I can't get anywhere near the stability i do in Yuzu with Ryujinx.
Yet they are at their most successful in their history, so it’s basically not going to show up on their financials that they lost you or the 10 other people on this sub as customers. You might’ve made a difference in the GameCube or Wii U eras where we successfully boycotted their system, but currently they have the most momentum going into a new system since the SNES.
Honestly PC is the future. Many Sony exclusive games are coming to Steam and all Xbox exclusive games are also on PC by default.
No reason to get other consoles now that PC and steam is taking off. I don't care about Nintendo because I have so many good games on back log with my steam account...
There's especially no reason to buy $300+ dollars worth of nintendo consoles and games when I can play it for free with upscaling too, nobody can stop me
This is why the Switch emulation scene is in a state.
I get called out for "stealing games", but I have a 4K monitor, and I am forced to play games at 1080p **at best** on real hardware in 2024.
I also know how to dump these games, and I do that as well, but that isn't good enough either, and people claim that I should buy another copy because "it isn't that much money" even though I am not buying full-price for a Wii game that I already own (but ported to the Switch).
So I 100% agree with this.
You’re arguing the morality and consumer side of things but these statements only bring up another point; by your logic you’re implying Nintendo is at fault for making a lackluster console that performs marginally worse than your pc playing the same games on it so because of these imperfections you’re now allowed and justified for pirating the game as you refuse to play it on switch?
That’s not how that works buddy.. Nintendo releases their games on their platform and you play it on their platform, end of story. If you can emulate and dump your own games that you purchased GREAT that’s fine as that’s not illegal since you own those keys. However using the “it’s the switches fault for underperforming in 2024” card doesn’t hold up at all. That’s not a legit reason to emulate or pirate switch games because you don’t like the hardware. If Sony or Xbox games were playable on pc and they ran poorly on the console we’d all just deal with it, are you implying you’d attempt to emulate those as well? We’re only able to do so because Nintendo Emulation is super easy and accessible, otherwise we wouldn’t bother. The amount of excuses given to justify pirating is ridiculous.
In your case scenario you’re fine as you actively have the games and dump your own keys so you’re not really doing anything illegal anyway
I doubt it. Nintendo is just the face of emulation these days, Sony and Xbox have no need to emulate as their games are more than recently becoming cross platform and shifting to playing on pc as well. People emulate and pirate Switch games (which is the main culprit of ire from Nintendo honestly, they care about retro titles but the switch ones are really the sore thumb) because they don’t want to be forced to play on the underperforming hardware.. but that still isn’t an excuse. You can’t be upset that Nintendo cares about their brand and refuses to expand out and put their games on other platforms, that’s never been their strategy as they rely on hardware sales. Nintendos vision is to get you to buy their next big console and integrate all their sales and marketing from it, that’s not a bad thing nor would it be smart to stretch out to pc, PlayStation, or Xbox as once they do they lose creator control and can’t micromanage their content and properties.
I think people forget this is a system/company now marketed towards kids. Children don’t care for performance hence the switch does just enough to be considered running good. Hate to tell you they don’t care for is old gamers anymore, it’s all about the new sale🤷🏾 you either buy their games and enjoy it or simply don’t.. I’d imagine is their stance whether that’s a good angle or not
Well yeah but as a Linux user trust me, if there's a native version and a port, and the native sucks, I'll emulate the port
Case and point: Many games on Linux that are technically supported suck, and the Windows version running through Proton, a translation layer based on Wine developed by Valve, runs absolutely fantastically
So I enable proton and play the Windows version on Linux
Now, Wine's name LITERALLY MEANS "Wine Is Not an Emulator", the same would apply for console games with poor porta if the emulated version ran better, or for future games that might not have a PC port
(Or even for older games that will never get one)
About the business side, a market targeted to kids with such a big chunk of it being adults isn't a market for kids, it's a market for all.
Nintendo just needs to accept that, cause it's quite a lot of people upset with them, and the kids are gonna get older and see Nintendo for the shady company it is, and if even only 30% of it cares, that's a lot
Well I appreciate you addressing the business side as that primarily the side I argue and people tend to overlook that part just summarizing it down to “big company want money”.
I understand there will always be people who emulate or find a way to play something on better hardware and I don’t find that a bad thing inherently as it’s cool and interesting to see how far you can push a game with better resolution, upscaling etc.
however for the business side of things Nintendo views their audience as children, whether we agree or not. Most of their switch sales come children or enthusiasts who will primarily buy anything they make just to add it to their collection. They literally avoid the internet and free voice chat because they don’t want children to be exposed to COD chat lol. If it isn’t about protecting their IP half of their marketing and game development decisions stem from making it appropriate and fair for children. They literally changed BOTW, saw people loved it (aka this generation of gamers), and refuse to make a traditional Zelda game ever again because this is the standard now that this generation loves and going back because of a few (actually quite the big number) nostalgic fans isn’t profitable for them. Sadly Nintendo isn’t a company that cares much for veteran fans, even gamefreak follows in their footsteps making their games far too redundant and easy so children can find it more accessible.
But hey kids make money🤷🏾
Yeah I get that some people think stealing from big Nintendo is serious, although I don't agree with that, but if you already own the game and want to emulate it I don't see any argument against being able to play it however you want, aside from cheating in multiplayer etc
Why are people still using yuzu and not ryujinx?
Edit: follow up question why is yuzu that much better at emulating switch games on worse hardware? Is ryujinx unable to optimize?
way better performance and no real reason to ever touch ryujinx if yuzu can (and always did for me) run the game without issues. even if the framerate was the same yuzu still has less audio issues and amd fidelityfx.
some people will recommend ryujinx because of some drama about presumed stolen code or something like that, as if it mattered at all right now. either that or they want to shit on poor people (while still pirating), this is the impression they give me
Ryujinx for the longest time was the only emulator to support stuff that required CFW like ACRoplus as well so there is that as to why some people preferred Ryujinx over Yuzu
In ryujinx, the pro controller gyroscope does not work in Pokemon Let's Go (it works in other games). And in yuzu in Pokemon Let's Go, the gyroscope works great.
P.S. Pokemon Let's Go does not support Pro Controller, however, it can be emulated as if it were a JoyCon in both yuzu and ryujinx. Only yuzu does it better.
Yuzu uses hacks to get more FPS, Ryjujinx is more accurate and therefor slower.
There was also a story going around last year or so how yuzu stole code from ryujinx too.
I’m actually a Ryujinx fan and do prefer them in the long term as it’s a) an ingoing project and b) sympathy for being down to earth. As of today however: I’ve been playing Totk for weeks now and while I’m able to get solid 60 fps 90% of the time with Yuzu, Ryujinx was at 30-35 for me. At least for this game, the difference is just insane.
Because people with potato PCs think emulation is a right and not a privilege.
Yuzu is a buggy mess that only got better if you paid the devs money for pre-release builds, or just pirated them, but then you'd never get support because you were pirating early access builds. However, everyone vouched for it and treated it as the holy standard because almost any computer on earth could run it at a high framerate. Too bad it would run TOTK and Mario Wonder like dogshit on release (not even being able to run at all at one point) because they rushed out support (when the games got leaked, Yuzu could run it not but a day or two later) for those two games instead of just taking it slow.
Ryujinx is focusing, first and foremost, on making sure the emulator actually *works* before optimizing anything. Keep in mind the Ryujinx team is incredibly small compared to Yuzu and, as far as I know, never grows. If your computer can't run Ryujinx *now*, just come back to it later. It's not going anywhere (literally, the dev is situated somewhere Nintendo dares not touch). Also, it's important to note, Ryujinx isn't perfect either. Certain bugs, even ones that span entire render libraries, are still being investigated (see the stencil bug on OpenGL games like Yo-kai Watch 1's Switch remaster). However, the game still FUNCTIONS perfectly fine, which is more important in the Ryujinx dev process.
Different project objectives
Ryujinx aims for complete and proper hardware emulation that would be as accurate as it can get without compromises
Basically a complete and proper switch emu that would be able to handle any game you throw at it without much issues
However need not forget that emulation is an intensive process that your computer performs, as such full and proper emulation is not really meant to be super fast
Yuzu devs, to my knowledge, went to tweak their emulator to existing titles on a case by case basis utilizing shortcuts and such based on these, aiming for more optimization for each existing game compromising on accuracy (remember how smbu's story mode used to be broken for years)
That and also the latter had a lot more resources at hand to do their job
Not true, Ryujinx relies on compromises all the time as using JIT/dynarec instead of a pure interpreter is a huge compromise when it comes to accuracy. Hell, even using a CPU interpreter is a compromise when it comes to accuracy but a necessary one as the only fully accurate with no compromise NES emulator takes two minutes to render a single frame and doesn't even have mapper support.
First off this forum/group is filled with people that I'm not interested to take me seriously when you are so desperately to do everything to keep something that on papper is dead and still cry on the internet make me laugh,This forum was good one time but it get worse for every day. And talk like a 5 years old is maybe i try to make you guys understand.
There is at least one more emu that follows the book and are still developing.
Have you seen the Gmod community and sub? Because they turned just as bad as Yuzu, but yet that game still gets updates and new content.
You are better off moving on because this sub is just now a big corporate circlejerk because Nintendo does not care about game preservation because they see it as "glorified piracy".
While people are stubborn they are not stupid, and keep in mind that not everyone can own a Swtich or can to play at 4K - hence the reason why people turn to emulation.
Just keep in mind there are poor (and even homeless) people on Reddit so isn't nice mocking others because they cannot afford the same luxuries of what we have.
Gmod compared to yuzu.
Yuzu is owned by Nintendo and they can do what ever they want with it.
No company want "there" property being flying around on the internet and playing around with like project suyu and sudachi that are build on their product.
And think of it line this. If you build something would you like that people get it for free even if you have a price tag on it?
And for the poor/homeless people it feels like they have bigger problems then yuzu.
I dont mocking poor or homeless. Its just insane if they use there lives to do everything to play yuzu.
If i was poor or homeless i would not put my time in yuzu and try do something good with my life..
I am aware that it costs money (and a lot of it) to mass produce games and consoles, so isn't good when people don't pay for it. It's a different matter entirely if people cannot emulate games even if they dumped their own legitametly purchased games (such as myself), so it is possible to play at 4K.
And this is the reason why I don't like people such as yourself, it's easy to assume that everyone can afford these things (because you can) but I've seen YouTube comments that they pirated a $20 game because they are that poor, and yet you essentially claim that $60 game for a $300 console isn't that much or they would "do something good with their life".
And not to mention that this doesn't justify the reason why people aren't allowed to play Switch games at 4K or easily mod their games (let alone modding Mario in non-Nintendo games).
So if can buy games you can buy a cheap pc to run ryujinx that works and get updates almost daily and can run 4k and is legal to use so no point to cry over yuzu.
And i dont like people like you who think they can get everything for free and hope illegal stuff spread on the internet will exist for ever.
People can play and use what ever they want if they are more silent but people in this community is just to brain dead and screaming pirate everywhere and ofc Nintendo take action.
Only reason i have both yuzu and ryujinx on my pc is because sonic superstars and mario wonder just dont load on yuzu for some weird reason, shaders dont even compile, it just stays loading forever
There are other projects that run switch games flawlessly. I don’t really understand why this is such a big deal. Let them take it down and use a different emulator done and done.
I remember maybe a week ago there was some kind of discussion about whether these were originating with Nintendo or if it was some kind of patent troll or lone crazy person. Did anyone follow up on that?
If the switch wasn’t such a shit system, people would be more inclined to buy it. Tbh I have no idea how so many people bought it to begin with. The quality of everything down to the controllers is downright awful
I’m well aware, but I think that has more to do with a. More consumer spending in general b. Increased population c. Greater interest in the video game industry d. Kids being less active and not touching grass
For what it’s worth, I think the wii was actually the greatest console ever, excellent motion controls while integrating kickass systems like gc, n64, gba, nes, all into one (and then softmodding it?!). Wii sports alone brought more entertainment than the entire switch lifespan imo, but recency bias just causes us to forget.
I think it's moreso because Nintendo absolutely dominated the handheld market, and the Switch is a consolidation of their console and handheld lines.
It was a good move. I'm pretty confident that the Switch wouldn't have sold nearly as well if it was *just* a regular console. And that's coming from.someone who genuinely thinks the Switch library of games is one of Nintendo's *best.*
Oh it was definitely an angle toward the “ipad kid” generation and worked for sure. I find the Switch’s game catalog atrocious lol, that’s also accounting for the fact that a lot of games they offer didn’t run for crap. (2k, Rocket League, etc.)
Oh, you lost me at 2K and Rocket League lol.
I own Nintendo devices *exclusively* for Nintendo games. And their games this gen have been *mostly* great.
For something that cost more than a decent pc? No thanks, had a "gaming" Laptop, it was crap and a waste of money
Just get a pc hand held instead if you only want to game or build a pc and accept chair gaming if you're chasing after graphics
I’d recommend a pc handheld over a gaming laptop any day in this generation however I feel gaming laptops are absolutely fine. 800 can get you play games very decently as most games are optimized at lower graphics these days. 1000$ can play pretty much everything pretty well and 1800+$ is overkill but future proof performance. Not like any of this matters really as FSR and upscaling technology like dlss make FPS gains much easier for most pcs these days, it’s also becoming the standard for games so that’s great news.
You sound like you just had a crap experience and had zero knowledge about gaming laptops at all buying something you thought would be good without doing much research simply because you spent over 400$-500$ on it which is around the price of a console. The gaming pc space has always been around 800$-1000$ for something that performs well.. why are you surprised by this price point? These are full blown gaming computers.. not just some Xbox that’s only function is to play games🤨
I got a 6750xt, 32 gb ram, B550 pro wifi, air cooler, and I dunno 650v power supply (forgot) for around roughly 1.3k (converted)
My sht box of a laptop cost 1.5k fans loud af, always heats up and lags and battery might as well not exist
Too bad computer handhelds weren't this well known in 2019 at least in my country
Edit: I say 1.5k but I don't remember clearly, feels more like bordering on 1.7k
I spent about 1k between a laptop and a cooling stand
Laptop with an rtx4050 12th Gen i7 and like 16gbs of ram.
Run p much everything on ultra to high at least 60-80 fps minimum.
Meanwhile comparable performance desktop rigs around here go for at least 1k more
I can attest to this. Have 2 V2's, 1 Lite, and 1 Oled. After my delusions that they would finally release a decent handheld, went through the journey of owning the first releases of the onexplayer 1s (the 5700u variant), a gpd win 4 (2022 the 6800u variant), 2 lcd decks, 1 oled deck, and finally going into the tab territory, an rog acrnm (with the 32GB, 4070 variant) which i pair with an 8bitdo sn30 pro controller... all my switches ended up collecting dust to this day. Even my dirt cheap Anbernic RG353V performs better than the switch 😅
even my kids hate playing on those goddamn things, and they'd rather play on their phones.
even my goddamn phone can play switch games better than the switch does. now i feel like a damned fool for ever purchasing games on the eshop, nearly 200 of them, costing thousands of $, which 80% i had to re-purchase on steam, sometimes for dirt cheap during sales seasons.
I'll probably end up keeping 'em switches just for the nostalgia of it and nothing more. Like keeping a nintendo game & watch from the freaking 80's.
Honestly, I had bought a OG switch to run games and it ran so well until it didn’t and I suffered from stick drift and then overheating, joycon rails stopped working…and at one point it legit the battery lasted only 1-2hrs! I regret spending that money so much :(!
Now I’m a happy owner of a ROG Ally which can not only play switch games but so many more while my switch is rusting in the cupboard since it’s so spoilt!
Also the condition was immaculate when I bought it, I checked everything but I guess that’s just the QC of Nintendo! What’s sad is that this has happened every time with a Nintendo product, Wii (sensor bar stopped working), gameboy (cartridge stopped working), DS (screen stopped working)! Legit hate Nintendo
I agree with everything you said except I’ve never had an issue with my wii, aside from the disc reader eroding over time. However, I softmodded and digitally added all my games so haven’t used the discs in a decade. Legit think it’s the goat system for incorporating all the good systems prior like n64 and gc
Yeah, I have some games for those too. Sonic Unleashed, god of war chains of Olympus and some more!!! Love the Ally but the battery life is 🤮, can’t have it all I guess.
wanted one because it was cheap and oled and portable. Cant pirate without modchip or homebrew overpriced games and outdated hardware. It's all unknown till you buy it
It's Nintendo 🤷 they could make a dildo out of recycled Wiis slap a mario paint scheme on it and it would sell millions. They have a cult like following it's bizarre
Or… maybe it’s because people want to play Nintendo’s industry leading games? I don’t know, maybe people like buying systems that drown people in quality 1st party games, but what do I know 🤷
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Any chance you have the latest versions of yuzu as well?
Unfortunately no
Damn, still have those Citra copies?
Damn, still have those Citra copies?
Me need it too 🙏🙏
Fuck the nintendo triads 🖕🏻 switch 2 will be emulated in no time as nintendo just want to give as little as possible for the biggest price tags. They are taking the piss now
and yall wonder why they’re anti emulation
How about that Gary's Mod story from last week too eh where Nintendont wants all mods based off their IPs taken down but Valve said Nintendo has to tell all modders to get rid of them all 30000+ lmfao..... Oh and what money is Nintendont losing on those mods for games that they have 0 development for? Asking for a friend 🙂🙃🙂🙃🙂
Meanwhile I'm still enjoying pikmin 4 on yuzu right now lol.
I've been playing BOTW on Yuzu for the last three weeks lol.
Go hard mate. Fuck Nintendo. If they would release a piece of hardware that was as powerful as it is expensive I'd simply buy it. The switch is junk.
These people are nintendo fans?
ikr? Let's be real here, at least 90% of us here might like Nintendo games, but never spent a dime on Nintendo products.
Don't forget Xbox series X/S dev mode , emulation on it is a flaweress victory
I do
It'll just get targeted too. You're screwed no matter what you do. give up.
Russian hosters :)
Ah yes the people that people like me can attack full force and face no prosecution. They are last on the list but will be the most fun since they have no civil rights to worry about. The flashcart makers are also the mob and run sex slavery rings. Do you approve sex slavery too? They will be the most fun as I get to target slavers who rape children. I get to laugh as I wreck all they own.
Your phone battery contains mined cobalt. Clearly you support child labor and unethical working conditions
You bring up a hard subject that does need to be addressed as a society. In USA we plan to start making batteries here with that massive lithium deposit and change that. We are moving away from business in China in general. USA is the only country with the balls to stand up to that.
I purely meant that as in Russia doesn't respect copyright laws in general, don't get all political on my ass.
It should not be political to be against giving money to pedophiles.
haha I'll bet a dollar the people downvoting this are pedophiles. Go rape yourself and leave the kids alone.
Bro I'm a child what are you on my guy.
Your parents should not let you on reddit. Please find a more positive outlet for your time. You dont get that time back.
Reading this as I'm having a heavy panic attack and trying to get my mind off things, as u may notice I have a lot of shit going on in my life, I have acted exactly like you do I this comment section and I srsly suggest taking a step back and try to treat this long term so u don't feel worse and worse. Pls take care
Thats so sad. Yuzu was the best!
This new generation of gamers is wild dude. You should feel extremely lucky that you were able to emulate a current console and even play games before they released. It’s never happened and likely won’t ever happen again because of this specifically. Microsoft made the mistake a long time ago with the Xbox but this really puts the nail in the coffin for console makers that proprietary hardware is going to be the only way to go to prevent piracy. Similar to how Sony made ps3 complex and proprietary and it can’t be emulated properly to this day. Everyone pushed this so much and for what? Did any of these forks actually achieve something? What big releases came out between yuzus explosion and right now? Right… it’s just a bunch of clout chasing coattail riders adding menu features. This is a far cry from the old days of emulation and the brain drain from yuzus disbandment will be felt for years to come. There was never any reason to engage with any of the forks. You could’ve just torrented a yuzu nightly on 1337x or found it in any of the many archives it was available in since then. All this did was stoke a fire under Nintendo and I never saw the value in pushing it because the console is current. If the scene doesn’t back off we might be stuck for awhile.
They also removed citra bozo. Also deez nuts
Dont forget Xbox series X/S dev mode to play emulators , right now developer aerisarn manage to make citra on Retroarch work , emulation is the key, Nintendo destroys emulation for them is about money, for us is about the value of retrogames , hope to see yutzu or Ryujinx ported uwp....
Emulation is about preserving older systems. Switch is their current system. Do you not see the issue? Do you even own a real switch? I do
> Emulation is about preserving older systems This argument is the worst thing to happen to the emulation community
I own a real switch and vastly prefer emulation. It's not even close.
To add on this... "Some" emulators takes many years to get up and running games. Starting early like Yuzu did was a great idea however releasing it to the general public while the Nintendo Switch is still pumping out games and consoles was its downfall.
You mean like the Connectix Virtual Game Station? The one that got sued by Apple and they lost the case so they just bought the company to shut it down? Which you can't do with open source software? Just wondering if u mean that
They are both legal I know that but why is there not an attack to ryujinx also? Maybe the yuzu devs did something?
you had to pay a subscription to patreon for early access yuzu
Yuzu is the more popular of the 2. Nintendo basically does not want people to play leaked copies of games on emulators. The fact they did not go after Ryujinx is simply cuz it is less popular and there for lesser talked about and there for Nintendo is less likely to know it is a thing
Nintendo 100% know about ryujinx buddy, Nintendo aren't just two people in a garage coding games ona Thinkpad with a mobile hotspot
It's imminent Nintendo just needs to work out the case for it.
How is yuzu illegal and ryujinx not illegal, enlighten me.
Both are legal. The problem lies in how DMCA Takedown works. Yuzu's original team folded, this means the case didn't go to court, which means that Yuzu was not proved to be illegal. What went to [court was the settlement](https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.rid.56980/gov.uscourts.rid.56980.11.0.pdf), which ordered the Yuzu Team to delete everything and hand things to Nintendo. It was never said or implied that Nintendo had the right to take down any derivative work or copies made by unrelated entities, only the ones that were under control of the Yuzu Team and related entities. Now things get sketchy: Nintendo is not allowed to take down arbitrary copies of Yuzu, but they are probably making the argument that those people were involved directly with the Yuzu Team, therefore it must be taken down. However, that's not what the agreement says, the agreement says that the Yuzu Team has to destroy and take down things, not that Nintendo has the right to do so. So another argument from Nintendo is that it was agreed in court that Yuzu violates the DMCA, but that's not true, it was agreed that software that only functions when the illegally obtained keys are integrated, breaks the DMCA, but Yuzu works without the keys for non-encrypted apps (homebrew). Nintendo is just being Nintendo and doing whatever they want just because they can.
Yeah they really are being cunts about this since the entire piracy part is unrecommended by yuzu and completely on the user side they have to make up some bullshit, I feel bad for the yuzu team and Nintendo fans who won't get a chance to use it now
Oh it will be back. Quite frankly, this part of Nintendo needs to be put out there but nobody wants to talk about it”pirating” games so we don’t. We gotta find a better way to talk about it
Neither are illegal as far as I can tell, only Nintendo has lawyers out the ass the throw at people and yuzu were their target
Yuzu made money off it. They had a patreon for early access updates. Emulators are not illegal, but selling them is. Yuzu should have known better
I think you're right that selling an emulator directly is illegal. Accepting donation money for early access? I don't think that's illegal, that's definitely more grey area. Ryujinx has a patreon too. Yuzu selling a paid version with TotK optimizations? Almost definitely illegal.
it wasn't "donation money" for early access since you had to pay lmao
Did they sell Nintendo Intellectual Property? If not then I do not see the (legal) problem
They gave you a way to circumvent Nintendo's copy protection on their games.
They sold an app that plays Nintendo games, pirated or not. It's really easy to understand. Yuzu should have kept it totally free, nintendo wouldn't have a leg to stand on
This isn't how copyright law works. If the code doesn't contain anything belonging to Nintendo then the DMCA is kinda void Also there's this thing called Not America where you can also store code
Fine, the code doesnt belong to Nintendo, but when said code allows you to play games which are copy protected by using stolen keys (prod.key file etc) its already getting veeeery iffy
False. It's not even close to iffy if users have to seek out those keys themselves. I'm not on either side of this, but if the emulator doesn't come with the prod keys, it's a very much legal piece of software. I think that Yuzu devs were dumb, yes, but that doesn't change the law regarding this.
So what is the law on decrypting games via keys to be run on unauthorized devices? That is essentially whats happening here. If you are going to mention something like Bleem....well PSX CDs were not encrypted, you could see the contents of the disc on any PC with a cd drive. So I really dont think older court decisions about emulation is applicable here since we are dealing with a different beast here.
It's not as complicated as you're making it seem. You can dump keys from your switch. They're required to play games you own. That makes it a required and legal piece needed to make the emulator work. It's not an unauthorized device. Emulators are legal. Playing games you own through an emulator is legal. That means taking your prod keys from your switch to make your games playable is legal.
Yuzu made some possibly illegal actions, and as part of a settlement agreement with Nintendo they transferred over the rights to everything they had... Now considering the fact this is a GPL licensed project...... I have no effing clue whether technically the settlement contract is legally binding for the stuff legally created, and how to determine what parts of the code would not be subject to the dmca violations based on yuzu not following good cleanroom practices
Can’t transfer the rights of an open source project
Yes but illegally created code I assume can't also be open sourced, they somehow have an agreement to the ownership of all created material being transferred to Nintendo, I'm fairly certain some of that can't be claimed by Nintendo but it's on the people hosting it to somehow prove it was legally created... Seems like a hard thing to do given they are third parties by necessity... The only people with most of the information that can do anything all is Nintendo, unless they tell you what is illegal to host instead of just dmca in the entire project, no one will know. It would basically require a lawsuit and a lawyers requesting Discovery to figure out what things Nintendo owns from the repository because they were not legally created under a valid GPL license, I'm basically saying the entire project has been tainted and outside of getting sued and going through the court to figure out what you did wrong, you have no way of knowing what you could be sued for
Agree on the second part though, and people agreeing to take down the entire repo are at fault there (there are other factors at work than what i wrote before but i’m too tired to mark everything) Mind you nintendo is known for suing everyone on everything, so it’s possible nothing at all really touches their ip
Code can’t be illegally created (sorry i have issues with sentences 😅). On the other hand you can have copy of code that doesn’t belong to you (which is an issue when it’s not open source) or in the case of emulators code created by reverse engineer something, basically you are not following the guidelines to make it non suable, but it is very hard to prove, your code would have to basically be copy pasta from the original system code as as long as you don’t have code from the original system in your emulator there are few things they can do to you.
It’s not that Yuzu is illegal. It’s most likely because it was monetized by donations from patreon for early access versions.
Yes and ryujinx isn't like that also I was told the dev is Brazilian so they don't have to obey the ninjas of nintendo if they try to go after them
by mercy stop crying about something that is prohibited and just use ryujinx it's literally better and still supported
ToTk runs at a fix 60 fps on my old version of yuzu still while I barely manage 45 fps on the most up to date Ryujinx. All my other games suffer from the same issue. Sorry but not for me.
btw thanks you for been respectfull and giving actual arguments instead of acting like a animal like most users of this sub
ryujinx is made to support as many games possible wich is not possible on yuzu since there wont ever be an update to play the newers title
I have games that don't work on ryujinx
good for you
If that’s the case then how it’s ryujinx still better
idc
You gotta be one of the snobbiest people I’ve met
cry about it
Bruh, you can't let the repos fall and the amount of years of work just like that. Even if ryujinx is better
do it if you want but if you know that's unallowed go ahead but stop crying about it
You even know what digital presevation is? that's the purpose here
yeah digital preservation of a still going console, no get real and stop lying to you yall just want to play switch on pc. it's okay it's cool to play the Switch on pc i agree but just use ryujinx. dont tell me "but the poor android users🥺🥺" cause it's literally playing way worse than a real switch, exept for piracy, realisticaly there's no reason to play switch on phone
Found the nintendroid
Yuzu is a project with and incredible amount of work, hece, we should preserve it. It's that simple
Wait what's prohibited? Yuzu and ryujinx both use keys if that's what you mean. So both are "prohibited" whatever that fuck that means.
Nintendo literally banned yuzu did you forget...?
What do you mean banned? I don't think that's what happened, man. Stop making stuff up. They stopped the development of it from the people that were originally working on it. If I were to take the code and make my own yuzu fork. I would totally be able to without question. That's why they're going after the hosters, not that actual projects
they stopped to avoid getting their butt kicked by big N, of course they dont want any new revival projects / repost of they reason of the lawsuit
It does kinda make me mad how freaking nuts nintendo is. Striking 20 year old mods that say nintendo in them, stealing open source emulators and using them on their own consoles without crediting people. Nintendo is for sure a big fat cunt. I think we can all agree on that. And yeah your right no one wants to go up against a multi billion dollar company or whatever they are. Imagine having billions and your console can't do 60 fps🤣 bunch of clowns
yes Nintendo can be annoying, but give me source ple about them stealing emulators source code and using them. also you're complaining about a 7 year old console that have even at release outdated hardware, it was chosen to be like that cause that would make the switch very cheap: they always did that with every generations since the gamecube and it's perfectly fine. games play absolutlly well with 30 fps and there's nothing wrong with it but yeah what a bunch of clowns they are protecting their ip and selling cheap game device so everyone can play on it >:(
>just use ryujinx it's literally better That's an absurd thing to just say when everyone's hardware is different. I can't get anywhere near the stability i do in Yuzu with Ryujinx.
cool
Forks should be moved from GitHub to Gitea instances running in Russia and Iran
Joke of a company. Nintendo just made it so I will never buy hardware or software from them ever again. GG
Yet they are at their most successful in their history, so it’s basically not going to show up on their financials that they lost you or the 10 other people on this sub as customers. You might’ve made a difference in the GameCube or Wii U eras where we successfully boycotted their system, but currently they have the most momentum going into a new system since the SNES.
lol boycotted the system. those consoles sold badly not due to boycott.
Honestly PC is the future. Many Sony exclusive games are coming to Steam and all Xbox exclusive games are also on PC by default. No reason to get other consoles now that PC and steam is taking off. I don't care about Nintendo because I have so many good games on back log with my steam account...
There's especially no reason to buy $300+ dollars worth of nintendo consoles and games when I can play it for free with upscaling too, nobody can stop me
This is why the Switch emulation scene is in a state. I get called out for "stealing games", but I have a 4K monitor, and I am forced to play games at 1080p **at best** on real hardware in 2024. I also know how to dump these games, and I do that as well, but that isn't good enough either, and people claim that I should buy another copy because "it isn't that much money" even though I am not buying full-price for a Wii game that I already own (but ported to the Switch). So I 100% agree with this.
You’re arguing the morality and consumer side of things but these statements only bring up another point; by your logic you’re implying Nintendo is at fault for making a lackluster console that performs marginally worse than your pc playing the same games on it so because of these imperfections you’re now allowed and justified for pirating the game as you refuse to play it on switch? That’s not how that works buddy.. Nintendo releases their games on their platform and you play it on their platform, end of story. If you can emulate and dump your own games that you purchased GREAT that’s fine as that’s not illegal since you own those keys. However using the “it’s the switches fault for underperforming in 2024” card doesn’t hold up at all. That’s not a legit reason to emulate or pirate switch games because you don’t like the hardware. If Sony or Xbox games were playable on pc and they ran poorly on the console we’d all just deal with it, are you implying you’d attempt to emulate those as well? We’re only able to do so because Nintendo Emulation is super easy and accessible, otherwise we wouldn’t bother. The amount of excuses given to justify pirating is ridiculous. In your case scenario you’re fine as you actively have the games and dump your own keys so you’re not really doing anything illegal anyway
If Sony and Xbox games ran poorly on the console and we'll on PC we'd emulate them as well Just saying
I doubt it. Nintendo is just the face of emulation these days, Sony and Xbox have no need to emulate as their games are more than recently becoming cross platform and shifting to playing on pc as well. People emulate and pirate Switch games (which is the main culprit of ire from Nintendo honestly, they care about retro titles but the switch ones are really the sore thumb) because they don’t want to be forced to play on the underperforming hardware.. but that still isn’t an excuse. You can’t be upset that Nintendo cares about their brand and refuses to expand out and put their games on other platforms, that’s never been their strategy as they rely on hardware sales. Nintendos vision is to get you to buy their next big console and integrate all their sales and marketing from it, that’s not a bad thing nor would it be smart to stretch out to pc, PlayStation, or Xbox as once they do they lose creator control and can’t micromanage their content and properties. I think people forget this is a system/company now marketed towards kids. Children don’t care for performance hence the switch does just enough to be considered running good. Hate to tell you they don’t care for is old gamers anymore, it’s all about the new sale🤷🏾 you either buy their games and enjoy it or simply don’t.. I’d imagine is their stance whether that’s a good angle or not
Well yeah but as a Linux user trust me, if there's a native version and a port, and the native sucks, I'll emulate the port Case and point: Many games on Linux that are technically supported suck, and the Windows version running through Proton, a translation layer based on Wine developed by Valve, runs absolutely fantastically So I enable proton and play the Windows version on Linux Now, Wine's name LITERALLY MEANS "Wine Is Not an Emulator", the same would apply for console games with poor porta if the emulated version ran better, or for future games that might not have a PC port (Or even for older games that will never get one) About the business side, a market targeted to kids with such a big chunk of it being adults isn't a market for kids, it's a market for all. Nintendo just needs to accept that, cause it's quite a lot of people upset with them, and the kids are gonna get older and see Nintendo for the shady company it is, and if even only 30% of it cares, that's a lot
Well I appreciate you addressing the business side as that primarily the side I argue and people tend to overlook that part just summarizing it down to “big company want money”. I understand there will always be people who emulate or find a way to play something on better hardware and I don’t find that a bad thing inherently as it’s cool and interesting to see how far you can push a game with better resolution, upscaling etc. however for the business side of things Nintendo views their audience as children, whether we agree or not. Most of their switch sales come children or enthusiasts who will primarily buy anything they make just to add it to their collection. They literally avoid the internet and free voice chat because they don’t want children to be exposed to COD chat lol. If it isn’t about protecting their IP half of their marketing and game development decisions stem from making it appropriate and fair for children. They literally changed BOTW, saw people loved it (aka this generation of gamers), and refuse to make a traditional Zelda game ever again because this is the standard now that this generation loves and going back because of a few (actually quite the big number) nostalgic fans isn’t profitable for them. Sadly Nintendo isn’t a company that cares much for veteran fans, even gamefreak follows in their footsteps making their games far too redundant and easy so children can find it more accessible. But hey kids make money🤷🏾
Yeah I get that some people think stealing from big Nintendo is serious, although I don't agree with that, but if you already own the game and want to emulate it I don't see any argument against being able to play it however you want, aside from cheating in multiplayer etc
Yup!
Same :(
Can anybody provide a backup link? I forgot to backup my fork.
`git clone https://web.archive.org/web/20240304181826/https://github.com/yuzu-emu/yuzu.git`
Does this actually work? Cloning from web.archive? I'm getting a "repository not found" error
post more links for them to remove. real smart ones we have hear.
Remove the way back machine? Not happening bud, people have tried and failed
here*
Why are people still using yuzu and not ryujinx? Edit: follow up question why is yuzu that much better at emulating switch games on worse hardware? Is ryujinx unable to optimize?
Ryulinx performance is crappy on BOTW but Yuzu runs it fine
I use yuzu for the FSR
way better performance and no real reason to ever touch ryujinx if yuzu can (and always did for me) run the game without issues. even if the framerate was the same yuzu still has less audio issues and amd fidelityfx. some people will recommend ryujinx because of some drama about presumed stolen code or something like that, as if it mattered at all right now. either that or they want to shit on poor people (while still pirating), this is the impression they give me
Ryujinx for the longest time was the only emulator to support stuff that required CFW like ACRoplus as well so there is that as to why some people preferred Ryujinx over Yuzu
In ryujinx, the pro controller gyroscope does not work in Pokemon Let's Go (it works in other games). And in yuzu in Pokemon Let's Go, the gyroscope works great. P.S. Pokemon Let's Go does not support Pro Controller, however, it can be emulated as if it were a JoyCon in both yuzu and ryujinx. Only yuzu does it better.
Yuzu uses hacks to get more FPS, Ryjujinx is more accurate and therefor slower. There was also a story going around last year or so how yuzu stole code from ryujinx too.
I’m actually a Ryujinx fan and do prefer them in the long term as it’s a) an ingoing project and b) sympathy for being down to earth. As of today however: I’ve been playing Totk for weeks now and while I’m able to get solid 60 fps 90% of the time with Yuzu, Ryujinx was at 30-35 for me. At least for this game, the difference is just insane.
Shader compilation stutter is awful on Ryujinx. Yuzu has async as an option.
Because people with potato PCs think emulation is a right and not a privilege. Yuzu is a buggy mess that only got better if you paid the devs money for pre-release builds, or just pirated them, but then you'd never get support because you were pirating early access builds. However, everyone vouched for it and treated it as the holy standard because almost any computer on earth could run it at a high framerate. Too bad it would run TOTK and Mario Wonder like dogshit on release (not even being able to run at all at one point) because they rushed out support (when the games got leaked, Yuzu could run it not but a day or two later) for those two games instead of just taking it slow. Ryujinx is focusing, first and foremost, on making sure the emulator actually *works* before optimizing anything. Keep in mind the Ryujinx team is incredibly small compared to Yuzu and, as far as I know, never grows. If your computer can't run Ryujinx *now*, just come back to it later. It's not going anywhere (literally, the dev is situated somewhere Nintendo dares not touch). Also, it's important to note, Ryujinx isn't perfect either. Certain bugs, even ones that span entire render libraries, are still being investigated (see the stencil bug on OpenGL games like Yo-kai Watch 1's Switch remaster). However, the game still FUNCTIONS perfectly fine, which is more important in the Ryujinx dev process.
Yuzu Solos Ryujinx cope
Different project objectives Ryujinx aims for complete and proper hardware emulation that would be as accurate as it can get without compromises Basically a complete and proper switch emu that would be able to handle any game you throw at it without much issues However need not forget that emulation is an intensive process that your computer performs, as such full and proper emulation is not really meant to be super fast Yuzu devs, to my knowledge, went to tweak their emulator to existing titles on a case by case basis utilizing shortcuts and such based on these, aiming for more optimization for each existing game compromising on accuracy (remember how smbu's story mode used to be broken for years) That and also the latter had a lot more resources at hand to do their job
How is it proper hardware emulation if Ryulinx dips to 15FPS all the time?
Accuracy does not constitute performance
Not true, Ryujinx relies on compromises all the time as using JIT/dynarec instead of a pure interpreter is a huge compromise when it comes to accuracy. Hell, even using a CPU interpreter is a compromise when it comes to accuracy but a necessary one as the only fully accurate with no compromise NES emulator takes two minutes to render a single frame and doesn't even have mapper support.
Becuse people are desperate about yuzu to exist becuse they have so bad pc and dont have money for a switch and need to pirat games.
Bros calling people out for not being able to afford a Swtich, but he cannot afford a dictionary or even basic english education 💀
Ohh so you are one of the them😂 💀 Feel sry for you but in reality it sad you guys are sooo desperate to keep something alive that is dead. 🤡
My advice is that if you want people to take you seriously stop talking like a 5 year old.
First off this forum/group is filled with people that I'm not interested to take me seriously when you are so desperately to do everything to keep something that on papper is dead and still cry on the internet make me laugh,This forum was good one time but it get worse for every day. And talk like a 5 years old is maybe i try to make you guys understand. There is at least one more emu that follows the book and are still developing.
Have you seen the Gmod community and sub? Because they turned just as bad as Yuzu, but yet that game still gets updates and new content. You are better off moving on because this sub is just now a big corporate circlejerk because Nintendo does not care about game preservation because they see it as "glorified piracy". While people are stubborn they are not stupid, and keep in mind that not everyone can own a Swtich or can to play at 4K - hence the reason why people turn to emulation. Just keep in mind there are poor (and even homeless) people on Reddit so isn't nice mocking others because they cannot afford the same luxuries of what we have.
Gmod compared to yuzu. Yuzu is owned by Nintendo and they can do what ever they want with it. No company want "there" property being flying around on the internet and playing around with like project suyu and sudachi that are build on their product. And think of it line this. If you build something would you like that people get it for free even if you have a price tag on it? And for the poor/homeless people it feels like they have bigger problems then yuzu. I dont mocking poor or homeless. Its just insane if they use there lives to do everything to play yuzu. If i was poor or homeless i would not put my time in yuzu and try do something good with my life..
I am aware that it costs money (and a lot of it) to mass produce games and consoles, so isn't good when people don't pay for it. It's a different matter entirely if people cannot emulate games even if they dumped their own legitametly purchased games (such as myself), so it is possible to play at 4K. And this is the reason why I don't like people such as yourself, it's easy to assume that everyone can afford these things (because you can) but I've seen YouTube comments that they pirated a $20 game because they are that poor, and yet you essentially claim that $60 game for a $300 console isn't that much or they would "do something good with their life". And not to mention that this doesn't justify the reason why people aren't allowed to play Switch games at 4K or easily mod their games (let alone modding Mario in non-Nintendo games).
So if can buy games you can buy a cheap pc to run ryujinx that works and get updates almost daily and can run 4k and is legal to use so no point to cry over yuzu. And i dont like people like you who think they can get everything for free and hope illegal stuff spread on the internet will exist for ever. People can play and use what ever they want if they are more silent but people in this community is just to brain dead and screaming pirate everywhere and ofc Nintendo take action.
You should pirate a dictionary
yuzu is better at managing mods
My PC is too slow to run ryujinx.
Yuzu lower spec requirements
Only reason i have both yuzu and ryujinx on my pc is because sonic superstars and mario wonder just dont load on yuzu for some weird reason, shaders dont even compile, it just stays loading forever
Because they’re brain dead
yuzu still has better motion controls than ryujinx until that is fixed for me I will be using yuzu and i don't really play new games on it
there's no ryujinx on android
There are other projects that run switch games flawlessly. I don’t really understand why this is such a big deal. Let them take it down and use a different emulator done and done.
Lmao. Name them.
I remember maybe a week ago there was some kind of discussion about whether these were originating with Nintendo or if it was some kind of patent troll or lone crazy person. Did anyone follow up on that?
You mean Aaron Peters was responsible for Yuzu's Lawsuit and DMCA?
Yeah my fork got killed today.
Yeah, me too. Zzz. Where did yuzu go after this take down?
If the switch wasn’t such a shit system, people would be more inclined to buy it. Tbh I have no idea how so many people bought it to begin with. The quality of everything down to the controllers is downright awful
Switch is literally the third best selling console of all time
Thanks to Nintendo fans that will buy any shit they are presented with.
People say that like the Switch isn't the most sold console nowadays lmao
Sales numbers doesn't mean your hardware wasn't outdated in 2017 when you launched it. Dumbass
I’m well aware, but I think that has more to do with a. More consumer spending in general b. Increased population c. Greater interest in the video game industry d. Kids being less active and not touching grass For what it’s worth, I think the wii was actually the greatest console ever, excellent motion controls while integrating kickass systems like gc, n64, gba, nes, all into one (and then softmodding it?!). Wii sports alone brought more entertainment than the entire switch lifespan imo, but recency bias just causes us to forget.
I think it's moreso because Nintendo absolutely dominated the handheld market, and the Switch is a consolidation of their console and handheld lines. It was a good move. I'm pretty confident that the Switch wouldn't have sold nearly as well if it was *just* a regular console. And that's coming from.someone who genuinely thinks the Switch library of games is one of Nintendo's *best.*
Oh it was definitely an angle toward the “ipad kid” generation and worked for sure. I find the Switch’s game catalog atrocious lol, that’s also accounting for the fact that a lot of games they offer didn’t run for crap. (2k, Rocket League, etc.)
Oh, you lost me at 2K and Rocket League lol. I own Nintendo devices *exclusively* for Nintendo games. And their games this gen have been *mostly* great.
Because soys will buy anything from Nintendo
In my defemse a 2nd hand v2 was cheap so I said why not, barely used the thing but I'll keep it for a collection Steam deck is a 1000x better portable
Literally just go buy a gaming laptop. It's not pocket portable but they aren't heavy if you aren't weak.
For something that cost more than a decent pc? No thanks, had a "gaming" Laptop, it was crap and a waste of money Just get a pc hand held instead if you only want to game or build a pc and accept chair gaming if you're chasing after graphics
I’d recommend a pc handheld over a gaming laptop any day in this generation however I feel gaming laptops are absolutely fine. 800 can get you play games very decently as most games are optimized at lower graphics these days. 1000$ can play pretty much everything pretty well and 1800+$ is overkill but future proof performance. Not like any of this matters really as FSR and upscaling technology like dlss make FPS gains much easier for most pcs these days, it’s also becoming the standard for games so that’s great news. You sound like you just had a crap experience and had zero knowledge about gaming laptops at all buying something you thought would be good without doing much research simply because you spent over 400$-500$ on it which is around the price of a console. The gaming pc space has always been around 800$-1000$ for something that performs well.. why are you surprised by this price point? These are full blown gaming computers.. not just some Xbox that’s only function is to play games🤨
Adequate gaming laptop ~$1k usd Adequate desktop rig ~3-5K usd Get your number right before spewing bullshit
I got a 6750xt, 32 gb ram, B550 pro wifi, air cooler, and I dunno 650v power supply (forgot) for around roughly 1.3k (converted) My sht box of a laptop cost 1.5k fans loud af, always heats up and lags and battery might as well not exist Too bad computer handhelds weren't this well known in 2019 at least in my country Edit: I say 1.5k but I don't remember clearly, feels more like bordering on 1.7k
I spent about 1k between a laptop and a cooling stand Laptop with an rtx4050 12th Gen i7 and like 16gbs of ram. Run p much everything on ultra to high at least 60-80 fps minimum. Meanwhile comparable performance desktop rigs around here go for at least 1k more
I can attest to this. Have 2 V2's, 1 Lite, and 1 Oled. After my delusions that they would finally release a decent handheld, went through the journey of owning the first releases of the onexplayer 1s (the 5700u variant), a gpd win 4 (2022 the 6800u variant), 2 lcd decks, 1 oled deck, and finally going into the tab territory, an rog acrnm (with the 32GB, 4070 variant) which i pair with an 8bitdo sn30 pro controller... all my switches ended up collecting dust to this day. Even my dirt cheap Anbernic RG353V performs better than the switch 😅 even my kids hate playing on those goddamn things, and they'd rather play on their phones. even my goddamn phone can play switch games better than the switch does. now i feel like a damned fool for ever purchasing games on the eshop, nearly 200 of them, costing thousands of $, which 80% i had to re-purchase on steam, sometimes for dirt cheap during sales seasons. I'll probably end up keeping 'em switches just for the nostalgia of it and nothing more. Like keeping a nintendo game & watch from the freaking 80's.
despite the horrible quality of the switch, the only redeeming factor was its games, which basically carried it to success
Honestly, I had bought a OG switch to run games and it ran so well until it didn’t and I suffered from stick drift and then overheating, joycon rails stopped working…and at one point it legit the battery lasted only 1-2hrs! I regret spending that money so much :(! Now I’m a happy owner of a ROG Ally which can not only play switch games but so many more while my switch is rusting in the cupboard since it’s so spoilt! Also the condition was immaculate when I bought it, I checked everything but I guess that’s just the QC of Nintendo! What’s sad is that this has happened every time with a Nintendo product, Wii (sensor bar stopped working), gameboy (cartridge stopped working), DS (screen stopped working)! Legit hate Nintendo
I agree with everything you said except I’ve never had an issue with my wii, aside from the disc reader eroding over time. However, I softmodded and digitally added all my games so haven’t used the discs in a decade. Legit think it’s the goat system for incorporating all the good systems prior like n64 and gc
Your ROG Ally can play PSP , PS1 , PS2 and probably PS3 games Also unlike the limited Switch
Yeah, I have some games for those too. Sonic Unleashed, god of war chains of Olympus and some more!!! Love the Ally but the battery life is 🤮, can’t have it all I guess.
The deck can play a lot of PS3 games, I am certain the ally can as well
wanted one because it was cheap and oled and portable. Cant pirate without modchip or homebrew overpriced games and outdated hardware. It's all unknown till you buy it
It's Nintendo 🤷 they could make a dildo out of recycled Wiis slap a mario paint scheme on it and it would sell millions. They have a cult like following it's bizarre
Or… maybe it’s because people want to play Nintendo’s industry leading games? I don’t know, maybe people like buying systems that drown people in quality 1st party games, but what do I know 🤷
Gamecube and Wii U were a failure.
Wii U was a hot steaming pile of garbage.. but GC?