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I wish they'd visit Finland. USS Kearsarge was an impressive sight itself, I can only imagine what a full blown modern aircraft carrier looks like in person.
Bigger cruise chips have been build in Finland, than the aircraft carriers, so sure, they could come.
That would just be kind of unnesessary, as there are friedly airbases all over. Having a aircraft carrier means you can wield power or their planes anywhere on the planet.
But as the ship itself IS sinkable, so it's more safe far out in open water surrounded with protective fleet, scouting for submarines and intercepring missiles. No room to meaningfully do that in Finnish gulf.
While Öresund Strait might be too shallow, most big ships pass through the Great Belt which has a max draft of 15 meter. HMS Prince of Wales with its 11m draft was in the Baltic Sea last year so USS Gerald R Ford can pass through the Danish Stratis.
Huge pacifist hippie L. In an ideal world we wouldn't need nuclear weapons but we don't live in an ideal world. Nuclear weapons and NATO is the best deterrent against the imperialist and genocidal ruzzians. Ameritards aren't perfect especially their leaders but they are better than the alternative by a huge margin.
Don't know what that means, but if i have to guess, it's sort of like Pekka and Jarmo?
And i don't have to worry about calling a finngolian based since i'm half finngolian 😎💪
That's blasphemy, it violates the sacred vowel harmony!
You can never have a and y in the same word ^(except compound words, loan words and abbreviations) !
Never!!
Also a massive L targeting the individual soldier. In the hell hole they come from, becoming a soldier is one of the best career paths for many that can't afford college. The individual soldier isn't some imperialist warmonger. It's a person trying to forge a life for himself and potential family.
Yeah and the American soldiers who are stationed in Europe are usually quite all right. I might be wrong but i actually have image of them being smarter than most Americans at USA.
I've always had the impression that Americans who have had the chance to see other countries are usually pretty alright. The smarter thing may be correlation or causation. Idk
Both options are frankly bad. Having two "super powers" is necessary, only one would be terrible for autonomy of their allies unless their allies are actually equal to them.
Yes. There is no one, US supporting or otherwise, who shouldn’t be in favor of increasing European independence, in energy, in agriculture, and in military. Regardless of what superpower is in control, even a benevolent one, the Allies should never ever be an afterthought.
I dont understand pacifists, especially in these times. They just sound like they're into submission and would surrender instead of fight to defend their country.
Yeah i also find it so regarded that people try to tryhard peace and pacifism when your neighbor is dedass Russia…. Like be realistic. Ukraine would be ruzzian by now if NATO didn’t force european countries to use a few % of their GDP to their military. Also Ukraine would probably be Ruzzian without American help by now
Nuclear weapons are essential to our world being a mostly peaceful one. Without them, the Cold War would've probably been a real one, India and Pakistan would've engaged in multiple wars, etc. It makes politician and generals afraid of war.
USA has not really been opposing the increased nuclearisation of nations enough and their use should absolutely be banned, even if having them were to be legal. The nukes aren't really what is keeping Russia at bay, it's their whole industrial military complex that produces armaments far better than what the Russians have.
Their use is de facto banned, save testing purposes, to the same extent that a legitimate ban by international authorities would be, because those international authorities don’t have substantial power. Any country that would actually use nuclear weapons in combat would be an international pariah. In this case, the nukes are the sole thing working to the Russians advantage, not the other way around. Nukes are the thing that prevents a direct war or the threat of it with Russia from occurring, in which case Russia would be absolutely fucked by the US military.
A big L. An L in intellect, an L in foresight, an L in situational awareness, an L in self-preservation and an L in empathy.
Only fools think they'd be better off without NATO in this situation. America isn't perfect, and they have a past of being imperialistic, antagonistic and not caring much about anyone else. They are, however a much, much better alternative and partner than the feudal empire of ryssland. When americans complain about their government, they don't fall out of a window the next day. It's good to keep in mind what a profound difference that is.
One good example is how they would treat wrong doings by their own military. Take f.ex. Abu Ghraib vs bucha.. others end up in court and the other gets medals. So even if US is far from perfect they are clearly the better alternative.
"A past of being imperialistic"? They have a present and probably a future of being imperialistic too. Their latest invasion of a sovereign country was just a few years ago. That is not "in the past". They haven't learned a thing and they will do it again. They are just as imperialistic as Russia, and as members of NATO we are forced to support that.
The fact that Americans have democratic freedoms almost makes it worse, because that means that the people have the power to stop the wars, but don't. In the case of Russia you can conceivably blame it all on Putin, but in America the entire population must be rotten.
As a Norwegian L. What kind of retards are they, this is a sign that the US and NATO will stand together in case of a Russian invasion, which in turn decreases the chance of all out war. They probably vote rødt as well. Conclusion: Fucking retards
Cringe as hell, nuclear weapons are what quarantees peace from foreign attacks. No doubt the Americans are flawed in many ways, but what's the alternative?
I see posters like this in Stockholm sometimes aswell criticizing our NATO application. They’re a bunch of entitled stupidly idealistic hippies. Their military has nukes? Oh no! They have to destroy them and thus show Russia how wrong they are to have nukes and then they’ll dismantle their nukes too! Because Russia is anti USA so Russia is good! Russia/China is just threatened by the USA you see!
Then to say that their military has the worlds longest record of war crimes is just wrong and insulting to victims of war crimes.
It’s common that they’re just hypocritical tankies that support anything anti-US (including Russias actions). Truly the type of people that you know you’d despise if you had to meet them.
The whole anti-nuclear thing is so strange. Of course I do think nuclear _proliferation_ is bad, but a nuclear umbrella is good for us. My only concern is that I don't think US nuclear weapons are as serious a deterrent as a European deterrence would be, but without developing a common defence policy and strategic culture it's difficult to implement I suppose.
Thenagain reportedly the EUMC has no difficulty reaching consensus, so I guess if your take professional soldiers and put them in a common environment, they'll figure it out. I wouldn't be against a common EU military and doctrine that's developed by military experts. Political oversight is fine, but politicians are probably going to make it all about the nation or costs or political theater, so it's better if they just oversee the process.
I think the largest hurdle to an EU military is which companies are gonna get the contracts. The French have a tendency to play ugly when it comes to this. Ideally it’d be completely meritocratic without government involvement. The only requirement being that the tech is EU controlled, it’s manufactured, developed in the EU, the company is located in the EU, etc.
Where the manufacturing takes place shouldn’t be to big of a problem you could just spread it out evenly. That would take political will but if we get to the point that we agree on a common EU military then I assume it’s there.
Fucks sake, I'm at a festival today, and the revolutionary communist party was here. Hate those fuckers. Just because I'm against NATO membership, doesn't mean I'll support those fuckers, nor advocate against the US. I do the latter because of other reasons.
Surely you do know that the U.S. has done terrible war crimes? Burned, raped and killed whole villages in Vietnam come to mind immediately. No consequences except for one officer getting dishonorably discharged.
To say that pointing this out would be an insult to "real victims of war crimes" seems like insanity to me.
Naturally. Every nation in history to have gone to war has committed warcrimes. We just didn't document them during most of history, shit we didn't even call them warCRIMES, it used to just be "tactics".
The USA is a MUCH younger country than MOST european countries.. trust me, they are still amateurs in the warcrime department compared to europe.
Of course they have. “Every” single nation that has ever been to war has committed war crimes. But you’re right it might have been a bit tone deaf to call it an insult to real victims of war crimes.
My point is simply that the awful shit the US has done doesn’t mean that the US or the US military is a force for evil. And it sure as hell doesn’t mean that the alternatives aren’t much much worse.
How can someone be both a commie and pro-russian? Russia hasn't been communist for a long time now, nor have they been keeping up the charade for the last 30 years.
I have no idea why I’m getting recs for this place but this poster is remarkably stupid as the United States and Norway have both membership in NATO ~ and are supporting Ukraine
Norway was one of the founding members of NATO. Just some pacifist hippies being angry that the world is not a utopia and we need defence alliances to prevent war.
L, not because the US military has done some seriously fucked shit that people just gloss over, but rather because at the end of the day, it really isn't the soldiers' fault.
The soldiers of the world's armies are victims in the politicians' games, to be used and discarded like trash after they fulfil their purpose.
Putting up posters to guilt the soldiers isn't gonna stop any wars, but it might breed resentment between the soldiers and the Norwegian people, making cooperation in the case of an actual global war needlessly challenging.
Believe me, I would love nothing more than for America to isolate again, we where never supposed to be an empire in the first place.
But I ain’t about to leave Ukraine, or any other nation for that matter, at the mercy of Russia after seeing the kinds of things they’re doing to civilians there.
Hmm... i couldve sworn Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Iceland, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, the United Kingdom and the United States founded NATO...
Huge L, Western unity is a deterrent, not escalation.
The only reason reason the US has such a big history of war crimes is because unlike Russia, they actually record them.
The last bit means «with regards from the people of oslo that want to look forward to the summer and not live in fear for world war» so you sauna enjoyers can get the full picture
jesus what a fucking hivemind, lets ignore all the long standing socdem criticism of nato all anti USA activists are just pro russian tankie hippies russia wouldve totally nuked oslo by now if we didnt have american heroes saving us
Americuck here. We’d be happy to leave, but understand our presence is what engenders peace. It would be nice if everybody could just agree not to fight, but that’s unrealistic. As I’m sure you all know, if we were to leave some of your more nefarious neighbours would unfortunately have a field day.
Literally used logic.
Russia can't even conquer third world country which it neighbours.
To invade Sweden they need to go through the narrow border to the north or manage to cross the sea.
Conclusion: they do not have the logistical or military capacity to do so.
1. where was Sweden discussed?
2. why does allying the us lead to increased sales of bombs? It should decrease since we can utilize theirs
Stick to being a mechanic 😉
Sweden is the only country in the Scandis not a member.
Our military exports will obviously increase as we tie closer bonds to other Member countries.
I'm not sure why you're trying to diminish the value of my opinions by saying I'm a mechanic as if it's something negative.
its an L on a way that we need nato right now but. This is an absolute W in the battle against nuclear weapons! We need to get rid of those things, what ever it takes. Aren’t nuclear wapons already illegal because they are so absolutely evil. The risk is too big to keep them in my opinion.
I hate these people so much, these big city people are probably the same people who vote to increase the wolf population so normal civilians can't feel safe, while also voting to keep the boar blacklisted. Probably the same people who are telling us to boycot local farmers because "muh animals are being tortured, buy meat in the store no animals were hurt there".
They think they are so civilized and have to speak above everyone as if their opinion is the objective correct and everything else is morally inferior because they come from inbred ultra racist farmlands and forest dwellers.
They talk about everything having to be self-sustaining, which is great, except their cities aren't self-sustaining, they depend on the farmlands. But they also hate farmers and actively partake in economically harming the people who feed our country, and that we instead should just import food from foreign countries forever as if their farmers don't do the same that ours do. It's the same process, except more expensive. That's like saying buying clothes made by child slaves is okay because it didn't happen in our country, it happened in eastern asia but its okay because its far away from us despite the fact that we are supporting them financially.
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“Longest record of war crimes” *British Empire has entered the lobby*
Cant do war crimes if they are not invented yet
Luv attacking Africans, hate the Hague, simple as!
I wish they'd visit Finland. USS Kearsarge was an impressive sight itself, I can only imagine what a full blown modern aircraft carrier looks like in person.
Yes please fuck the russkies
We *are* very good at the whole badass warship thing
Can those even get into the Finnish gulf?
I'm sure "she" could take that big American aircraft carrier! 🥵
Bigger cruise chips have been build in Finland, than the aircraft carriers, so sure, they could come. That would just be kind of unnesessary, as there are friedly airbases all over. Having a aircraft carrier means you can wield power or their planes anywhere on the planet. But as the ship itself IS sinkable, so it's more safe far out in open water surrounded with protective fleet, scouting for submarines and intercepring missiles. No room to meaningfully do that in Finnish gulf.
I don't know of any cruise ship that runs as deep as aircraft carriers.. But if you have examples I'd be interested to know more.
Of course they can, they aren't 100km wide
It's not about hte width my dude, it's the depth.
It cant öresund isnt more than 11meters deep, the uss gerald r ford is 13 meters deep.
There is also a bridge in the way. Maybe it's high enough. I don't know.
Draft is 12-13 meters and its 78 meters tall, so about 65-66 meters sbove the waterline.
No it cant, öresund is to shallow.
While Öresund Strait might be too shallow, most big ships pass through the Great Belt which has a max draft of 15 meter. HMS Prince of Wales with its 11m draft was in the Baltic Sea last year so USS Gerald R Ford can pass through the Danish Stratis.
Huge pacifist hippie L. In an ideal world we wouldn't need nuclear weapons but we don't live in an ideal world. Nuclear weapons and NATO is the best deterrent against the imperialist and genocidal ruzzians. Ameritards aren't perfect especially their leaders but they are better than the alternative by a huge margin.
"In a perfect world, men like me would not exist. But this is not a perfect world. 😈"
In your perfect world, the human race would die off within 2 generations. I dont disagree, just pointing it out
r/ wooosh
I know....but my username
Agreed, I'd rather have American than Russian military bases here
Cunt caravans making pilgrimage to towns with American bases nearby will be miles long in Finngolia.
Based Finngolian
How can you call a janny based?
Don't know what that means, but if i have to guess, it's sort of like Pekka and Jarmo? And i don't have to worry about calling a finngolian based since i'm half finngolian 😎💪
Reddit mods are called jannies sometimes because they are like janitors Always having to clean the shitposts.
To me it sounded like a stereotypical finnish name haha
That's blasphemy, it violates the sacred vowel harmony! You can never have a and y in the same word ^(except compound words, loan words and abbreviations) ! Never!!
Janne is so not far off
Now you can change to the lovely finnish flair 😎
Also a massive L targeting the individual soldier. In the hell hole they come from, becoming a soldier is one of the best career paths for many that can't afford college. The individual soldier isn't some imperialist warmonger. It's a person trying to forge a life for himself and potential family.
Based & correct, pacifism doesn't work with neighbors like this
Based and anti-RuZZia pilled
Never been more proud to be called an Ameritard
That poster literally follows one of main ruzzian propaganda narratives. That's not just hippie L, that's Volodja fan boy L
Yeah and the American soldiers who are stationed in Europe are usually quite all right. I might be wrong but i actually have image of them being smarter than most Americans at USA.
I've always had the impression that Americans who have had the chance to see other countries are usually pretty alright. The smarter thing may be correlation or causation. Idk
Both options are frankly bad. Having two "super powers" is necessary, only one would be terrible for autonomy of their allies unless their allies are actually equal to them.
Yes. There is no one, US supporting or otherwise, who shouldn’t be in favor of increasing European independence, in energy, in agriculture, and in military. Regardless of what superpower is in control, even a benevolent one, the Allies should never ever be an afterthought.
Agreed.
Russia is not a 'super power'. It is Mexico with nukes.
No?
I dont understand pacifists, especially in these times. They just sound like they're into submission and would surrender instead of fight to defend their country.
They probably just have a bdsm fetish where daddy putin dominates them.
Yeah i also find it so regarded that people try to tryhard peace and pacifism when your neighbor is dedass Russia…. Like be realistic. Ukraine would be ruzzian by now if NATO didn’t force european countries to use a few % of their GDP to their military. Also Ukraine would probably be Ruzzian without American help by now
Nuclear weapons are essential to our world being a mostly peaceful one. Without them, the Cold War would've probably been a real one, India and Pakistan would've engaged in multiple wars, etc. It makes politician and generals afraid of war.
USA has not really been opposing the increased nuclearisation of nations enough and their use should absolutely be banned, even if having them were to be legal. The nukes aren't really what is keeping Russia at bay, it's their whole industrial military complex that produces armaments far better than what the Russians have.
Their use is de facto banned, save testing purposes, to the same extent that a legitimate ban by international authorities would be, because those international authorities don’t have substantial power. Any country that would actually use nuclear weapons in combat would be an international pariah. In this case, the nukes are the sole thing working to the Russians advantage, not the other way around. Nukes are the thing that prevents a direct war or the threat of it with Russia from occurring, in which case Russia would be absolutely fucked by the US military.
Eisenhower warned us against the Industrial Military [Complex](https://youtu.be/cyZoUfNsUl8)
Incredibly stupid how they say "we" as if the entire national agrees. The US sucks but this is just stupidity.
This is like communist posters and graffiti during the Cold War. https://youtu.be/ATY0KhMSOfY
"We" refers to the group that placed the posters.
A big L. An L in intellect, an L in foresight, an L in situational awareness, an L in self-preservation and an L in empathy. Only fools think they'd be better off without NATO in this situation. America isn't perfect, and they have a past of being imperialistic, antagonistic and not caring much about anyone else. They are, however a much, much better alternative and partner than the feudal empire of ryssland. When americans complain about their government, they don't fall out of a window the next day. It's good to keep in mind what a profound difference that is.
One good example is how they would treat wrong doings by their own military. Take f.ex. Abu Ghraib vs bucha.. others end up in court and the other gets medals. So even if US is far from perfect they are clearly the better alternative.
You forgot. An L in spelling and knowledge of English.
"A past of being imperialistic"? They have a present and probably a future of being imperialistic too. Their latest invasion of a sovereign country was just a few years ago. That is not "in the past". They haven't learned a thing and they will do it again. They are just as imperialistic as Russia, and as members of NATO we are forced to support that. The fact that Americans have democratic freedoms almost makes it worse, because that means that the people have the power to stop the wars, but don't. In the case of Russia you can conceivably blame it all on Putin, but in America the entire population must be rotten.
Maybe or just you know lobbying and options that both support this "imperialism".
Poor intern at the russian embassy in Oslo who had to put up these signs
Maybe igor got banned from twitter so he got the sticker shift this time
Stickers or window, Igor?
L
As a Norwegian L. What kind of retards are they, this is a sign that the US and NATO will stand together in case of a Russian invasion, which in turn decreases the chance of all out war. They probably vote rødt as well. Conclusion: Fucking retards
Jævla brødhuer som vi sier der jeg kommer fra.
Cringe as hell, nuclear weapons are what quarantees peace from foreign attacks. No doubt the Americans are flawed in many ways, but what's the alternative?
Russian vdv troops
https://youtu.be/kzK1gl6UoM0?t=30
Pretty sure they're all dead
French nuclear umbrella *shivers*
The alternative is a Nordic defence union.
Even better, a Nordic Union
Keep on dreaming Swemalia, all the other nordics are already in NATO
We want to join to, but the Turks are blocking us.
L, the soldiers are good, it’s the political side of the US we cannot afford to welcome.
Thats inevitable though if US has troops in your country you really don't get a say.
I see posters like this in Stockholm sometimes aswell criticizing our NATO application. They’re a bunch of entitled stupidly idealistic hippies. Their military has nukes? Oh no! They have to destroy them and thus show Russia how wrong they are to have nukes and then they’ll dismantle their nukes too! Because Russia is anti USA so Russia is good! Russia/China is just threatened by the USA you see! Then to say that their military has the worlds longest record of war crimes is just wrong and insulting to victims of war crimes. It’s common that they’re just hypocritical tankies that support anything anti-US (including Russias actions). Truly the type of people that you know you’d despise if you had to meet them.
The whole anti-nuclear thing is so strange. Of course I do think nuclear _proliferation_ is bad, but a nuclear umbrella is good for us. My only concern is that I don't think US nuclear weapons are as serious a deterrent as a European deterrence would be, but without developing a common defence policy and strategic culture it's difficult to implement I suppose. Thenagain reportedly the EUMC has no difficulty reaching consensus, so I guess if your take professional soldiers and put them in a common environment, they'll figure it out. I wouldn't be against a common EU military and doctrine that's developed by military experts. Political oversight is fine, but politicians are probably going to make it all about the nation or costs or political theater, so it's better if they just oversee the process.
I think the largest hurdle to an EU military is which companies are gonna get the contracts. The French have a tendency to play ugly when it comes to this. Ideally it’d be completely meritocratic without government involvement. The only requirement being that the tech is EU controlled, it’s manufactured, developed in the EU, the company is located in the EU, etc. Where the manufacturing takes place shouldn’t be to big of a problem you could just spread it out evenly. That would take political will but if we get to the point that we agree on a common EU military then I assume it’s there.
Fucks sake, I'm at a festival today, and the revolutionary communist party was here. Hate those fuckers. Just because I'm against NATO membership, doesn't mean I'll support those fuckers, nor advocate against the US. I do the latter because of other reasons.
Indeed. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Pacifism is only possible because there are men who are capable to do violence on their behalf.
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Exactly my thoughts. If you are nonviolent and weak you're not a pacifist. You're harmless
Surely you do know that the U.S. has done terrible war crimes? Burned, raped and killed whole villages in Vietnam come to mind immediately. No consequences except for one officer getting dishonorably discharged. To say that pointing this out would be an insult to "real victims of war crimes" seems like insanity to me.
Naturally. Every nation in history to have gone to war has committed warcrimes. We just didn't document them during most of history, shit we didn't even call them warCRIMES, it used to just be "tactics". The USA is a MUCH younger country than MOST european countries.. trust me, they are still amateurs in the warcrime department compared to europe.
Of course they have. “Every” single nation that has ever been to war has committed war crimes. But you’re right it might have been a bit tone deaf to call it an insult to real victims of war crimes. My point is simply that the awful shit the US has done doesn’t mean that the US or the US military is a force for evil. And it sure as hell doesn’t mean that the alternatives aren’t much much worse.
Before talking about the US, maybe you should bring up Storfinland?
Massive cringe L, some mental rejects that think they speak for all of us and that they are making a difference
but it made it to r_americabad so it must be real diplomacy!!!! 😨😨😨😨
L, commie pro russian
How can someone be both a commie and pro-russian? Russia hasn't been communist for a long time now, nor have they been keeping up the charade for the last 30 years.
”You are increasing the risk of nuclear war” Google mutually assured destruction
I have no idea why I’m getting recs for this place but this poster is remarkably stupid as the United States and Norway have both membership in NATO ~ and are supporting Ukraine
Norway was one of the founding members of NATO. Just some pacifist hippies being angry that the world is not a utopia and we need defence alliances to prevent war.
“Longest record of war crimes” my country is sadly not that based
L, not because the US military has done some seriously fucked shit that people just gloss over, but rather because at the end of the day, it really isn't the soldiers' fault. The soldiers of the world's armies are victims in the politicians' games, to be used and discarded like trash after they fulfil their purpose. Putting up posters to guilt the soldiers isn't gonna stop any wars, but it might breed resentment between the soldiers and the Norwegian people, making cooperation in the case of an actual global war needlessly challenging.
If have to choose between two bad sides then you choose the less evil side and US is definitely much less evil than Russia.
The sign would later say "You are now entering Oslo Oblast"
Huge eastern norwegian L
Only inner city people(osl🤢) are like that, most of us like america for helping us
imagine being from Oslo, all by bros from Bergen
Believe me, I would love nothing more than for America to isolate again, we where never supposed to be an empire in the first place. But I ain’t about to leave Ukraine, or any other nation for that matter, at the mercy of Russia after seeing the kinds of things they’re doing to civilians there.
These type of people have no other answer but appeasement, when you ask what should be done with Russia. They value peace higher than freedom.
>They value *a fantasy idea of* peace higher than freedom.
Especially now when the unkraine war has shown for a fact that russia cannot be appeased. The only language that brute understands is violence.
Big W, away with the americans!
Hmm... i couldve sworn Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Iceland, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, the United Kingdom and the United States founded NATO...
Huge L, Western unity is a deterrent, not escalation. The only reason reason the US has such a big history of war crimes is because unlike Russia, they actually record them.
Big fat L, atleast based on the reasoning. Nuclear weaponry has been the greatest peace keeping tool in human history.
There are American marines in Oslo?
The last bit means «with regards from the people of oslo that want to look forward to the summer and not live in fear for world war» so you sauna enjoyers can get the full picture
NorGAY gets a W this time
Huge fucking W. Only warmongering bourgeoisie would see this as an L, which I suppose is most of this sub.
Huge W not that I support Russia but that I think US war crimes should be more talked about
Big L
"Your military supports the usage of nuclear weapons." When was the last time US threatened another nation with nuclear weapons?
I'm pro-NATO, but Trump's "With fire and fury." speech comes to mind.
North korea.
huge L, we need the americans to double their military spending so they can nuke moscow and flatten beijing
Hell yeah 🇺🇸💪🦅
Typical norgay L.
Common Norgay L
regards Vladimir Putler
Rare Norwegian W
Nuclear weapons help prevent war escalation in some ways, sometimes and with some parties, in some scenarios. L
W
Big L
Sku ha skreve «yankee fuck off» istadn.
A rare but massive Norgay W. I hate America and their tons of freedom
W
L
jesus what a fucking hivemind, lets ignore all the long standing socdem criticism of nato all anti USA activists are just pro russian tankie hippies russia wouldve totally nuked oslo by now if we didnt have american heroes saving us
I agree with you (I think? hard to understand with the underusing of punctuation) but christ, use more punctuation.
Big L. Delusional.
Massive L
W
Why?
W for me, keep it up!
Massive L
L
Americuck here. We’d be happy to leave, but understand our presence is what engenders peace. It would be nice if everybody could just agree not to fight, but that’s unrealistic. As I’m sure you all know, if we were to leave some of your more nefarious neighbours would unfortunately have a field day.
Doubtful they would. But you aint hurtin none either. NATO is a must though.
L
Russian spies in oslo detected.
Huge L. As much as we hate the americunts they sure are ready to fuck the ever living shit out of RuZZia and that is enough for me
A common goal
common Norway W
Definitely printed by some Russian
Yankee go home
Ratio + femboy L
W
Based
W
W
Common Norwegian W
Rare Estonian L take
W. When the option is between two evils you chose neither...
choose neither and get mauled by one of them, truly big brain take
Russia can't even invade their neighbour, but still we are scared they would somehow invade Scandinavia. But at least now we can sell more bombs.
nice logical leaps
Literally used logic. Russia can't even conquer third world country which it neighbours. To invade Sweden they need to go through the narrow border to the north or manage to cross the sea. Conclusion: they do not have the logistical or military capacity to do so.
1. where was Sweden discussed? 2. why does allying the us lead to increased sales of bombs? It should decrease since we can utilize theirs Stick to being a mechanic 😉
Sweden is the only country in the Scandis not a member. Our military exports will obviously increase as we tie closer bonds to other Member countries. I'm not sure why you're trying to diminish the value of my opinions by saying I'm a mechanic as if it's something negative.
Post is regarding Norway If we didn’t cooperate with the US, we would have to ramp up production ourselves which would be more expensive
Export means selling a surplus. Buying what you need is called import. I'm discussing export.
Meh, incorrect definitions, meaningless to continue writing with you
Ukraine isn't a third world country, or at least wasn't one before getting detonated by Russia.
Certainly worked for Baltic States and Poland 🤦♀️
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Pass deg Knut
I sentence you to death by fårikålis
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Common Norwegian W
Big L
2 years ago i would say a major W but now idk
Massive L (I have been paid by the Military Industrial Complex)
Cringe and big L
L either a communist or a pacifist
Pacifists or Russian trolls. Can’t tell anymore.
L for sure, Norway benefits from the military co-operation Americans aren't there to bomb Norway like Iraq, so why not
If it is an option between Americans or nothing, I would take the Americans any time, any where.
Huge L
L, don't want American troops in your country, get out of NATO
its an L on a way that we need nato right now but. This is an absolute W in the battle against nuclear weapons! We need to get rid of those things, what ever it takes. Aren’t nuclear wapons already illegal because they are so absolutely evil. The risk is too big to keep them in my opinion.
Norgay L
Sounds like someone was rooting for the Russians when Occupied was on TV.
massive L
First point is based and true so W but last one is retarded
They should switch places with Ukraine lmao, bet they love giving up old Soviet nukes and decreasing the risk of nuclear war now.
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L fr fr. We can take them over.
I hate these people so much, these big city people are probably the same people who vote to increase the wolf population so normal civilians can't feel safe, while also voting to keep the boar blacklisted. Probably the same people who are telling us to boycot local farmers because "muh animals are being tortured, buy meat in the store no animals were hurt there". They think they are so civilized and have to speak above everyone as if their opinion is the objective correct and everything else is morally inferior because they come from inbred ultra racist farmlands and forest dwellers. They talk about everything having to be self-sustaining, which is great, except their cities aren't self-sustaining, they depend on the farmlands. But they also hate farmers and actively partake in economically harming the people who feed our country, and that we instead should just import food from foreign countries forever as if their farmers don't do the same that ours do. It's the same process, except more expensive. That's like saying buying clothes made by child slaves is okay because it didn't happen in our country, it happened in eastern asia but its okay because its far away from us despite the fact that we are supporting them financially.