0 viewer streamer xd. You are holding him back by not leashing bro, if only you leashed him that he would then go penta the enemy and gain 9999999 twitch viewers and hit it big time!

The even funnier thing is that my adc account is in gold (i suck at it xD) So he is a silver 1 0 viewer streamer who had a mental breakdown after he didnt get a leash

Most normal silver/gold experience IMO. My junglers play the game by smashing their head in the keyboard.

Its so funny. It feels like ive had more mental booms in silver than climbing out of bronze. Meanwhile every game has a mental boom in silver

Only difference between bronze 1 and gold V is queue luck

In Master I got my jungler crying for a Leash. Mind you that: 1: It's season 14XDXD. 2: It was a Trynda (me) vs Gwen top matchup. First blood on me = literally guaranteed win, but w/e ig. He was crying for a leash the whole game still. We obviously lost. I couldn't even get emotional and angry because I was just baffled that a jungler above gold asked for a leash. I was just shocked.

Lmao facts trynd with 1 kill on gwen is over she cant play at all

Funniest thing is that this made maybe the slightest bit of sense back in the day when jungling was hard for most champs and a leash was huge (not the inting part of course, just being upset). At this point in the game, leashes are often more detrimental than helpful. Like a few seconds saved at that level of play is going to do literally nothing. Even a silver player, depending on their skill set, might be able to generally track you in the jungle for the first 3 minutes of the game if they see an obvious leash happen. Iron level mental.

Play selfish huh? It's not like botlane has leashed near every single game for years without thanks or ganks after. And all *without* us expecting much in return. And honestly, since jungle pets were introduced, we don't *have* to leash anymore. Even top has entirely stopped leashing. Y'know, not that they were ever consistent with it like us in botlane. He's an ingrate.

Especially since he did get a leash from zyra. I was a jungle main before i switched to adc and i never really understood why people leash. I mean with most of my jungle champs i could full clear pre 3:15 without leash staying healthy so yeah Also im def dont regret not leashing him. Even if i did he would probably just find another reason to int

Also worth noting that Zyra is one of the best leashers in the game 🤷‍♀️

you can actually just spawn 2 plants and walk away as zyra for a lot of junglers. They tank for you and do big damage with the jungle camp bonus damage modifiers on them

"Even if i did he would probably just find another reason to int" Indeed, simply write this off as an unwinnable game and report this mf.

Leasing was more important in early league when A: clears were slower, and B: jungle creeps would chase who hit them first to the edge of a range and then switch targets. Mid would pull blue from the other side of the wall so the jungle could avoid damage while it tried to path. I honestly think modern leasing is mostly a holdover. It does speed up the first clear some, but most champions don't need it, like you said.

Especially now that jungle camps take reduced damage from laners - it's just something low elo players do out of habit.

Well and they do it because some junglers like this one flip if you don’t. Meanwhile when I jungle I tell people I don’t need the leash and they just say there’s no reason not to leash… like bruh claiming space for your lane is a huge boon why turn down the chance. When I leash I just give 4-5 autos then leave so I don’t miss any minions and have time to adjust their hp if needed.

Even 4 autos should lose you prio (and potentially get you zoned off wave) against competent players.

Oh for sure, just they are also leashing and I get there before them and take prio. That whole competent players part is the tricky bit

I started as jungle main myself, been playing a bunch of adc might convert soon lol Don’t get me wrong there are reasons to leash WW for example can use the assist getting the camp lower so it drops to low enough HP for attack speed increase. Zyra/karthus can take a leash so they can reset for items then fight enemy jungle with stat advantage Top or bot match up can be VERY volatile and first jungler interaction wins that lane Graves, kindred, ww, etc can benefit from leash so they can 3 camp into opposite side buff invade Plenty of reasons to leash. My issue is, you want me to sac bot prio til at least level 3/4 for what? So you can full clear, take scuttle, reset, then full clear again? Go fuck yourself bro.. practice tool and learn to clear before scuttle spawns. Is there a single jungler that can’t do that? Jesus fuck skill issue.

leash can fuck up bot lane when ashe stays with the right Support beetween you and your Minions U lost the lane No Matter what cause they cry jgl need leash i clear nidalee jgl with nearly 2/4 to 3/4 Life without leash .... jgl didnt know what leash for bot lane means

Its insane how much more important bot prio is compared to 5 seconds on a jungle clear.

I agree on most of that, but yeah no. There are some junglers that do need a leash. To be very specific Sylas and other junglers that struggle in the first levels. It’s all dependant wether to leash or not, since there’s cases for both. Sometimes you want to hide where you start, sometimes you want a stronger leash so you can have more tempo and clear faster for a lvl3 and get an opportunity. Either way, I’m sure this was a lower elo and they didn’t have any of that into account, yeah just an asshole move overall obviously.

Sylas isn't atm even a jgl champ xd.

I would say play a better jg champ that’s actually designed to jg

Ahahahhahaha

Sinerius, a challenger Yi streamer, pings people off from leashing and has mentioned several times that Yi's clear is typically just as fast leashless with how the timing works out on getting an extra reset on Q against the first camp. It's super easy to 6 camp before crab spawn on most meta junglers, and the rest can be done by that timing with practice. Only time a leash is really needed is with certain junglers that have 1 specific clearing ability but end up in a situation where they have to level something else level 1, like Morgana or Fiddlesticks taking Q in response to invades.

I guess the silver streamer knows more than sinerius xD

bro don't you know silver players are just hardstuck dia players? /s

If he needs a leash tell him he should probably practice his clears in the practice tool.

Dang I gotta watch this lol I thought Yi needed leash for first clears. I play Yi sometimes but I admittedly don't watch enough high level play of his

You should also know you don’t have to start buff either. A lot of junglers are actually better off starting chickens or wolves.

Yeah if I am on red side I usually play Rammus or Amumu and start chickens then invade Level 2 and smite steal their Gromp. Tbh I only play Yi if it is a good matchup now, but now I am curious about Yi strats so I might check out some Sinerias to see how he paths and prioritizes lanes.

Literally any jungler, not even high elo.. I peaked quite literally silver 2 on jungle (then switched to adc and we don’t talk about my rank right now lol) and even I know just from watching some YouTube and using my brain.. leashing for no reason is beyond fucking stupid Literally what’s the point? There are points. Do you know one tho? Please tell me why you want me to have say.. a 5% deficit against enemy bot lane? I’m willing to leash if bot match up allows.. but why should I? What’s your plan? There isn’t one? You can’t clear before scuttle spawns? Holy shit you’re garbage💀

Jungle leech should be illegal. I won so many games just from not leeching, when I do I lose prio and never get ganks or help even when you ping their summs down. You put your own lane at risk for helping but they will never help you back

And when they do gank the give your Laner 300g and double buffs

Now I won’t lie.. I am jungle/adc main No ones a saint out here the gank into 400g first blood + double buffs happens man I’m sorry😭 Had one game I did that maneuver.. I deafened and went on to drop an absolute performance first and only 4 honor game. I was well aware of my fuck up.. I don’t really care if someone messes up.. it’s low elo in my case it’s to be expected.. just don’t int bro no reason to tilt yourself to fuck and run it Thankfully my adc and support recovered their lane and eventually when I got 6 (hecarim) I was able to double kill bot lane with ult.. plus like 26 other kills, all dragons, both heralds (grubs didn’t exist at this time).. put down a massive jungle diff.. just limit tested a bit hard at level 4.. oops💀

I remember the time i leashed the Red as twitch and got the Red buff because instead of waiting for my poison to run out or just last Hit correct the jungler smited the Red and was running to raptors. Recievwd a lot of missing pings for that. Like Yeah how is it my fault when i am in lane not actively doing anything.

lol I had this happen with I believe brand burn.. extremely fucking annoying? Yes. But I got “burned” (ba dum tss) once and now with DOT leashes I’ll just smite that shit lol.. not taking chances on that But these days I only play jungle when I am annoyed at junglers.. been quite the adc player for past 2-3 weeks.. very fun role

sorry chump, but i'm going to have to agree with master yi on this one. as a fellow jungle main, it is imperative for me to clear my first few camps as fast as possible, so i can force a gank top lane and die to the enemy yone asap. this way, we'll be able to blame our top laner when we lose, and i get a fast recall as an added bonus. it's called "scapegoat insurance". since you denied this by not leashing, it's now your responsibility. of course, i don't expect you peewee snot-nosed stinky diaper adc "players" to be able to comprehend such omegabrain 69k elo cn super server tactics

You got me in the first half so bad💀💀💀

Make sure to start drake or grubs when spotted by a control ward to let the enemy know you ar doing them so their jg can avoid confusion.

Dude.. the mf probably won’t even gank.. literally wants leash to full clear > take scuttle > reset > full clear. Mannn gtfo with that💀

S14 u finish at 3:30 on most champs leashless so yea no

Average gold elo game with a jungle who hit gold after 5season’s of hardstuck in silver (he/she got out because of f*cked ranked system not because of his/her improvement) with human sized tumor inside his/her tiny head, and human sized ego. His/her viewer count represents his/her impact ingame

95% of my overall games are jungle. 4% are adc 1% the other 3 That 4% adc has been majority of my recent games tho.. I genuinely don’t understand why junglers throw tantrums when they don’t get leash.. brother, I am a jungle main through and through I didn’t touch another role until maybe 700 games deep into jungle. By far my most played role with my best understanding of.. yet here we are.. you’re diving enemy bot lane level 2 cause you’re throwing a tantrum. Get a fucking grip brother. What exactly do you want a leash for? Are you going to 3 camp invade? Why? Do you plan on mid top taking prio? Do you feel confident in the 1v1? Are you incapable of clearing pre 3:30 without a leash and need to have your hand held to contest scuttle? If that’s the case, focus on yourself.. work on improving your clear speed or just start top and path bot.. almost no jungle paths top to bot in low elo. Are you on an obnoxiously fast clearing champ like karthus or zyra and want to clear by say 2:40-2:50? (Zyra can do leashless 2:47 with 1 smite from red side btw) and want to have time for a reset into scuttle fight? Is top lane gonna lose prio early and let you 3 camp into top gank or full clear into top gank? Dudes don’t even know WHY. They’re just bitch ass unloved unimportant people that want to ruin and waste 9 other people’s time because they didn’t get like 4 seconds of their PVE shaved off. Fuck junglers low elo junglers bro.. such a brainless ass group that just does what they see and anything outside of that is “trolling them and being selfish” Okay Mr. Jungler diff.. tell me about this bot lane match up Ezreal Janna vs Cait Lux.. oh? You want a leash? Bro.. if bot laners leash you when they’re against cait lux both of them, and you deserve to lose bot lane.. cait lux (or most other mages) is POTENT wave clear and tower harass.. now.. being so pushed up they are susceptible to ganks.. its hard NOT to push wave as cait lux since AOE poke like cait Q and lux E will auto thin the wave. Oh but wait! You’re strong siding top lane this game. You’re going to sac bot prio, sac AT LEAST first 2 drakes save mid getting involved, and you’re making ADC lose farm because they leashed into a bot duo that can keep the wave under tower FOREVER.. and poke for free outside of tower range mind you!1!1! God junglers at least in low elo are so beyond brain dead moronic.. but what can you expect from someone who has basically never experienced early game micro and levels 1-6 lane match ups. Tilts the ever living fuck out of me and I end up going back to play jungle so at least I know the jungler won’t be as fucking brain dead and int cause no leash💀

If your support is Zyra, you never need to leash - 4 plants do so much damage, at least half the buffs health

I had a jungler recently run it down because even though I gave a full leash (6 autos) my support only autoed the buff once. They were playing a normal meta jungler who can easily full clear even with no leash. Like right, my support not contributing an extra 100 damage with their weak ass autos is the reason you died in your first gank...

Streamers in any online games can be so toxic, because if they are there is a buch of idiots in his chat saying he is right. That gives the toxic ones even more entitlement to act like a kid. Not all Streamers for sure

Only dogshit junglers need a leash xD

No not at all.. there are reasons to leash Invade Early gank Reset into scuttle contest Reset into invade (gotta be extremely mobile to get there in time but man I miss playing some Lee sin and backing for dblade and rushing into enemy jg.. holy stat check I had to get a solo kill like 90% of the times I did this) My issue is, dudes don’t even know why they want a leash like what’s the point of giving prio so you can full clear take scuttle than do a second full clear? I’m all for not forcing plays, that’s a very consistent early game as a jungler.. but you should be able to do that alone bro💀

want vs need diff

I mean.. If enemy jungle is a immobile scaling monster shutting them down early is definitely a team “need” I mean imagine the match up Xin Xhao vs brand.. brand WILL get strong. Brand can be 0/0/0 and insanely strong. So I’d argue you NEED to shut him down and not let him free farm. Now ofc it’s hard to “trust” others to do these things.. but it all is situational.. afk leash imo is very bad.. all depends on the match ups. Xin Xhao vs Brand in this example Xin is in the driver’s seat, but that’s on a timer.. and you can extend the time.. but there WILL be a moment where Xin’s impact falls to Brand’s team fight impact. Why do you think scaling junglers are so recommended to low elo? Cause nobody makes their life miserable.. and in low elo strong early junglers are genuinely great imo cause 99% of the time you know EXACTLY where enemy jungle is going. Bot buff, krugs/gromp, wolves/raps so on so forth. It’s extremely predictable pathing. You know where they are, you win the 1v1, you are more mobile in most cases.. I have been spamming adc, I don’t tend to leash, but when I think it’s beneficial I will. To always leash or to never leash is just too white and black imo

I had a lilia int one of my games because we didnt ward his blue >.<

Her*

Statistically its much more likely to be him but i appreciate the sentiment - maybe i shouldve gone for "them".

You are right I'm kinda stupid to care about this things, I shouldn't force this to other people I just prefer way much when people refers to player as if their gender was the one of their champion, because hey you never know

you don’t even need to leash anymore most the time it’s a detriment to the laner leashing. I had someone int for the same reason lmao. People in this game have the most sensitive egos i have ever witnessed

Its shit like this that makes me so happy i quit video games in general

I dont leash to junglers that can heal like warwick kayn viego idk what else so dont worry its not your fault they are just used to getting leashed and its a bad habit that we need to stop

WW leash is valid tho there’s a case to be made for speeding up his first camp since he doesn’t really pick up steam until the camp is low HP.. I believe it’s his passive or some ability’s passive that gives AS on low hp targets Somewhat valid leash.. if bot match up isn’t too volatile I leash it

Ww issue isnt on first camps its wolf, raptors, krugs since he struggles before tiamat compare to other junglers but single camp are pretty healthy for him

He’s dumb because there’s no need to leash I mainly play jungle it hinders more the Laners than anything else

As a jungler I always type no leash, and start wraiths or wolves, clear maybe 3 seconds slower. As an adc/ sup, I auto attack 5 times, use one spell if the mana would mostly regen by the time I get back to lane, contribute about 200-300 damage on a 2800 hp camp I believe. Yeah, leashing is pretty shitty.

If my support is a zyra or shaco... I typically won't leash anyways. Unless they have a hook champ ig.

Not banable sadly, telling the yi to do a certain thing with its life is :/

This is the kind of stuff you clip if he has vods or link it straight to riot. I have done it and have led to a ranked ban. Satisfying af.

Tbr leashing is a bad habit for 90% of junglers rn. It gives you faster clear but one day when the other junglers are tracking you it's only hurting you. I wish fake leashing was as common in low ELO as actual leashing..

I only leash champs that need it, such as Kindred or Nida. Yi doesn't fit the bill. Other than that, I never leash. Normalize not leashing. They don't fucking need it, throughout 2020-2022 the midlaner was just the jungler's bitch, they were literally slaves to the jungler. You could argue that a leash was "necessary" when jg items were those red and blue knives (it wasn't, by this point JG had already been dumbed down), but now? With the pokemons? Fuck off

#EndLeashCulture

Isnt No leash the Meta?

report him, hope others do to, maybe encourage them ... and try to win and no ff

Mfw i get autofilled jgl as a Sion OTP "No leash , me Chicken"

Exactly why starting chickens does feel like an easy way to start jg early with no leashe. Or wolves .

Idk i just like Chicken's taste

Thats pretty much why i argue you should leash because you never know what kind of mentally ill person you are dealing with.

Id disagree. Those people will probably always find a way to int. Like if id leashed, he probably would habe started dragon while we have 20% hp, no mana and are collecting 3 crashed waves under tower. And then he would have a breakdown over us not rotating

Honestly you’re probably right. Personally im just all about reducing the chances of my teammates going mental. I had fringe cases where my adc was headover in an argument with my midlaner and wanted to run it and i was just like „come on in here too“ and he was like „fine ill play normally for you“. Sometimes it just helps you win some games that you otherwise would lose to trolling. I can understand tho if people cant be bothered to play babysitter for their teams mental.

I understand that and usually i try to help teammates too. Like if my jgl pings me for a leash and i know that i can play the lane fine after leashing i will help. But that yi didnt even ping it. He just went mental for me not doing it without him ever asking for it

Ait that Yi is full of shit xD its kinda crazy that he promotes his stream and then does just something toxic. I usually dont even feel like promoting my shitter stream pregame in case i have a bad game. In general i feel like its cringe to promote shitter streams but doing it and then running it down … man some people xD

“fine ill play normally for you” - man just saved his entire team from his adc losing it

Eh i kinda agreed with my adc even but i also just really couldnt be arsed to care what the midlaner thinks and lose our win over that xD

Man, im telling you, the entitlement in LoL from players I'd incredible. The ego and their belief of being the best, knowing everything better and that big ass entitlement are something beyond normal human comprehension. As soon as you don't play how they expect and want you to play, you're playing wrong. And they are so tilted with the game and their life that they want to punish you for that. Nobody seems to realise that it is just a game and you should play however and whom you feel like, as long as you don't int or help the enemy and know what you are playing.

Nightblue ran down my d4 game because I wouldn't give him jungle. He sent his lolpros and hit me with the "do you know who I am?"

U deserve it

This sub is turning into ADC Anonymous where we all gather around in a circle like an AA meeting and discuss our sads.

Deserved

For S14 I’ve read that jungle leashes are no longer a huge benefit to the jungler and a lot of high elo junglers that I’ve seen opt to go leashless to make tracking more difficult. If they don’t ping assist before 1min then I’m going to lane.

He's shit yi clears leashless as fast as with leash

True. And he even got a leash from zyra (who arguably has one of the best leashes possible) So he id guess he was already tilted from the games before and was just looking for an excuse to let it all out

Leashing isn’t really even necessary for most junglers now (from a jg main) only champs you really want leash on are champs that have absolutely horrible clears or really bad lvl 1s

Give stream link because that toxic behavior is an instaban imo and he deserves no voewers

Dont want to make advertisment for him but i can sent you the link via dm

Jgl main here... Only gold, so take it with a grain of salt. Outside of a couple matchups I really try to not have a leash. I'd much rather my laners get full advantages if they can. Slowes my ganks about 6 seconds, but it means they more often have prio so I can get scuttle more safely ... And when I have a zyra on my team, I don't care what the adc does, just give me that sweet sweet zyra leash and I feel like a kid going out for ice cream.

Unfortunate but no big deal. Report and move on

The most literal definition of "touch grass" I've ever heard. Just take a fucking break, like remove yourself from the game for a solid 2 3 weeks come back and win its so simple but we have Mr 0 viewers streamer grinding 12 to 20 hour league sessions and absolutely frustrating himself

i never ask for leashes and ping my team off if they try, the 2-3 seconds it saves me on clear time isn’t worth broadcasting my pathing to the entire enemy team

It’s a yi player, they’re all highly prone to having toddler meltdowns when you don’t do things exactly as they want. Sometimes when I’m having a bad streak and my jungler doesn’t hover yi in select I’ll just ban it to avoid one on my team. Also leashing is such a dumb concept in the current season for 99% of junglers.

See I wouldn’t say it’s that bad or dumb, it’s how it’s used why it’s done and for what If my jungler is shaco ww kindred graves whatever and they want a leash to invade I’m perfectly happy doing that (so long as the bot match up isn’t extremely volatile) Or if it’s a super volatile top match up and the first jungler to interact with the lane will win it.. I don’t mind leashing (ofc if it’s no major set back to me) I just can’t stand dudes that want a leash so they can full clear scuttle full clear.. what’s the point of the leash?