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I feel if Adelaide fans (or other neutrals) we’re to rewatch the game you’d realise it truly wasn’t that bad, that Adelaide played really well, and that that was the likely outcome of the game no matter what
Because people are in denial about the fact that it was the right call and just feel like shitting over Collingwood because their bitter that they got away with another close win. At this point you feel bad for the umps they get shafted for not calling it on Draper and now that they do make the call apparently it “ruins the vibe of the game”
We’ve got blokes running 30 metres out of the goal square every kick in and numerous others that get let go but fuck it, let’s call one in the last minute of the game.
It didn't cost Adelaide the game, and it is not the reason Collingwood won. The Pies are just elite at the final 5 mins. But holy hell, as a neutral, it's just such a blah way to end an epic game.
We absolutely out ran and outplayed them in that last quarter.
Their sole goal came from a rebounded smother in their d50 that could have gone anywhere. More luck than epic by the Pies but yep, this one stings most than most.
Hopefully we are saving all our Pies karma trauma up for a future payoff in a final.
It's what annoys me. We are now 11-1 in games decided by a goal or less since Craig took over and everyone always makes it out that we got gifted the win from the umps. Every single time.. the umps gifted it to us. You don't win 11 out of 12 in those close games by luck and from the umpires.
Edit: I'm incorrect but it's something impressive like that. I know the commentators were going on about us being 11-1 in close games in a certain amount of time.
I think you are kidding yourself though reading patterns in to what is essentially a coin toss.
(Edit: I read this as Neil Craig with my crow bias intact, given OP meant McRae I would unwind the comment above given the time frame involved)
It’s understandable, footy makes people emotive I guess. But as said in a different comment it ultimately didn’t win or lose the game. On rewatch there’s probably a lot of calls like that in both directions
There is. I'm passionate about my football and my football team. I call it how I see it and at times it's favoured towards my team for obvious reasons but I try and be honest about it. But because of my team people just act like animals. Can we not unravel every week over a game of football?
What's funny is they missed the crom fella running what seemed to be 30 fkn steps with a few minutes to go, but call that.
Ranks did run too far but yikes on calling it.
And I don't really care if they're not called. I hate that we've come out of a good game of footy talking about umpires.
Like I'd rather live by the sword and get beaten in that last entry than talk about umpiring.
Swings and roundabouts and all but yikes on that last one
No, I was actually thinking that my team going against the odds and winning a really hard away game would be a cool, fun story. Rather than apparently the more exciting version: reigning champs beat underdogs at home.
I saw 13 steps so it would have been right at the limit. The problem like always though is they haven't called that all game and suddenly they ping a player for it. Just need consistency
If he kicked it that distance, it most likely would’ve been paid a mark. It’s not a fun call to make, but I think it was the correct one
Keep in mind, it’s not 15 steps, it’s 15 metres. Looks like he ran about 20
And it needs to be called when they do. 15 metres is 15 metres. He ran further than 15 metres. Complain about inconsistency all you want, because that’s more than fair, but this one was the correct call
Feel like my call was better, when they were down 30 and crows supporters were melting.
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Wtf is going on in the umpiring department? Is it the umpires they hired? Too many rules? Too strict or not strict enough with rules? Mandates from the higher ups? Whatever is happening, the umpiring has be abysmally dreadful this year.
It looked about 17 or 18 steps without a bounce and usually the general rule is 15ish.
It was there but you hate to see a free-kick like that, which is sporadically paid at best, decide such a close game like that
Yep, just went back on slow-mo, it was 14, don’t know where I pulled 17 or 18 from.
Shouldn’t have been a free but it was hard to tell.
I’d be more pissed about the inconsistency once again. They rarely ever pay a running too far free kick, then incorrectly pay it at the end of a close game which ends up being the decider.
Yeah mate right with you, I hate how commentators actively cheer one team. Like get up and about for the occasion but don’t just completely ignore the other team
How many neutrals do you think would go out of their way to comment on a reddit thread to defend an umpiring decision? Especially if Collingwood was the beneficiary. Contrast that with how many people would jump to whinge about a Collingwood win. Answer that question honestly, and you'll understand the groupthink around here isn't really what the rest of the world thinks.
To be fair in the Collingwood Crows game at Adelaide oval last year, Jones almost decapitated a Collingwood player in the goal square and it wasn’t called. We just weren’t good enough to capitalise on it.
Beggar's belief the ump paid that, didn't seem too far, on the edge, you let that go. So much for putting the whistle away a shame it ended on that. Well done Pies.
First flair up cunt, although based on that comment I’d say I know who you barrack for, second get fucked that never ever gets paid, and they just happen to pay it right as we’re making one more push forward
It’s literally the joke of this subreddit you fuckin turkey, you see players run far further than that every single game, are you saying that players can only take 10 steps now, because based on your math that would be the case, which is ridiculous
Where did I ever say it shouldn't be called any other time? Lay off the drugs.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AFL/comments/1cun0ah/match_thread_collingwood_vs_adelaide_round_10/l4kemrk/
It's also not me just saying it, here is someone with a "flair" so you can get mad at them for being biased, oh wait.
Why don’t you find one of the hundreds of comments from anyone else saying it was a bad call to link this time, oh wait that would prove general consensus is that it was a shit call and you’d be wrong
You can think it is a "bad call" based off of your emotions, but it was the correct call by the book. The free from the "push" before that also was bullshit, but you're not saying anything.
He ran about 30 meters after bouncing it guys. The grass is marked every 10 meters and he runs full across three of them after he bounced it. Its painful but was absolutely a correct call.
\*edit, it might be 8 meters per gradient, but still that way too far.
Even if it was correct, which it wasn’t, there should be a directive to put the whistle away for lineball calls in the dying minutes. Ruins so many game.
The weird thing about AFL adjudication though is it's about precedent, and normally they never call that. So to call it in the last 20 seconds is madness.
Honestly why do we watch the afl? Interstate teams only serve the purpose of making it look like a national game, it's really a Vic game for Vic people unfortunately
No way the ump saw the bounce and paid it. Maybe one step over being too far by the letter of the law, but that’s not paid 999 times out of 1000. Absolute fuck up.
Point is, there's also plenty of chance for us to get it out too. its just as "controversial" as the gf free kick, which had it not been a free was to an open game space as well
Week after week this happens to us. I wish we didn't need these decisions to win but fuck me it's utterly demoralising for poor umpire decisions in the dying minutes to cost us a shot at it
Rough call at the end.
Adelaide should have won on the whole.
Collingwood has the great strength of winning the games they should have won. And winning some of the ones they probably shouldn’t.
Before this gets lost on everyone, Collingwood was not granted one of the most obvious HTB 20m out from goals. As a neutral watching it all balances out tbh
That is absolutely ridiculous, umpires are a disgrace, need to be dropped after a call like that. They obviously just wanted to make that call, they never pay that ever! Especially that time of the game!
You actually think he ran too far? Or that it would get paid against any Pies player? I mean I’m not blaming the result on it but don’t piss on my head and tell me it’s raining
The guy who dropped a mark, had it paid, then lay on the ground pretending to be injured to catch his breath, then kicked a goal?
He's the reason you guys weren't favoured by the umpires?
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I feel if Adelaide fans (or other neutrals) we’re to rewatch the game you’d realise it truly wasn’t that bad, that Adelaide played really well, and that that was the likely outcome of the game no matter what
Rankine ran 25 metres without bouncing
How is this getting downvoted lol the strips are 9 or 10m and he ran 2 and a half strips at least
Because people are in denial about the fact that it was the right call and just feel like shitting over Collingwood because their bitter that they got away with another close win. At this point you feel bad for the umps they get shafted for not calling it on Draper and now that they do make the call apparently it “ruins the vibe of the game”
What the fuck did Adelaide do to upset the umpires last year?
Huge result for team Vic. Home team only getting 8 free kicks would never happen at Adelaide Oval.
Umpire properly! but! Only when we want you to!!
It’s not worse than the goal post incident but it’s up there
Cause the vibe is more important than an objectively correct call ey.
You wouldn’t be responding if it didn’t bother you you won this way
I’m just having a lol at the outrage m8
Sure
Crows got almost everything from the umps in the 4th honestly
Correct.
No we didn't you idiot
Same ump paid the push against cox a few minutes before, thoughts on that one?
Huh ? That was a very obvious push in that back
So you agree that he knows the pays frees by the book?
One free kick being correct doesn’t mean another wasn’t incorrect No idea where you’re going with this
Eh, it could've been let go but wasn't a shocking decision. The non HTB call 20m out from goal on the other hand...
It was clearly in the back
The push that was clearly in the back??
Of all the decisions you pointed out an obvious push in the back
So what you're saying is he knows how to call the game?
Dont say that. Anything that isn't against Collingwood isn't allowed here.
Why do the umpires hate the crows?
We’ve got blokes running 30 metres out of the goal square every kick in and numerous others that get let go but fuck it, let’s call one in the last minute of the game.
That was fuckedddddd. Daylight robbery
Again.
It didn't cost Adelaide the game, and it is not the reason Collingwood won. The Pies are just elite at the final 5 mins. But holy hell, as a neutral, it's just such a blah way to end an epic game.
We absolutely out ran and outplayed them in that last quarter. Their sole goal came from a rebounded smother in their d50 that could have gone anywhere. More luck than epic by the Pies but yep, this one stings most than most. Hopefully we are saving all our Pies karma trauma up for a future payoff in a final.
It's what annoys me. We are now 11-1 in games decided by a goal or less since Craig took over and everyone always makes it out that we got gifted the win from the umps. Every single time.. the umps gifted it to us. You don't win 11 out of 12 in those close games by luck and from the umpires. Edit: I'm incorrect but it's something impressive like that. I know the commentators were going on about us being 11-1 in close games in a certain amount of time.
I think you are kidding yourself though reading patterns in to what is essentially a coin toss. (Edit: I read this as Neil Craig with my crow bias intact, given OP meant McRae I would unwind the comment above given the time frame involved)
Whatever helps you sleep at night. A coin toss lmao.
You lost two finals in 2022 by a goal or less so that win-loss record can’t be right… plus you had a draw this year.
Can't let facts get in the way of a good statistic haha
Also edited both my comments stating I was incorrect. You're so funny though so I'm glad you still decided to post this comment.
Sorry for having a little fun in a Reddit thread I guess?
Apology accepted.
Just going by what was said on the TV. Edit: you are correct though and maybe I misheard the exact amount of time.
It didn’t definitely cost them the game. But it might’ve. Robbed everyone of a great ending to a great game.
100% - that's why I feel so blah
the thing is you don’t know what can happen, they could’ve won.
No they wouldn't have, we saw how it played out after. Lol
Yeah dominated possession for half a qtr for 1 goal. It wasn't happening. It is part of the AFC DNA.
Put the fucking whistle away in those situations. It wasn't even my team, I feel robbed of a decent end to a quality match.
Crows acting like there was a goal on siren involved...
Feel like if that call was against Collingwood the comments would be about how gutsy and brave it was to make the right call in such a tense moment.
nah it was just a shit call
Delusional, that would never happen
It’s understandable, footy makes people emotive I guess. But as said in a different comment it ultimately didn’t win or lose the game. On rewatch there’s probably a lot of calls like that in both directions
There is. I'm passionate about my football and my football team. I call it how I see it and at times it's favoured towards my team for obvious reasons but I try and be honest about it. But because of my team people just act like animals. Can we not unravel every week over a game of football?
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What's funny is they missed the crom fella running what seemed to be 30 fkn steps with a few minutes to go, but call that. Ranks did run too far but yikes on calling it.
Yea the one they didn’t call a few mins earlier was ridiculous lol
And I don't really care if they're not called. I hate that we've come out of a good game of footy talking about umpires. Like I'd rather live by the sword and get beaten in that last entry than talk about umpiring. Swings and roundabouts and all but yikes on that last one
The free kick is there maybe but if im an ump I'm not calling that. Centimetres in it but go with the percentages and play on.
Like from the team playing against Collingwood "you just knew they would" is actually really shitty to hear
Did you not know they would?
No, I was actually thinking that my team going against the odds and winning a really hard away game would be a cool, fun story. Rather than apparently the more exciting version: reigning champs beat underdogs at home.
Nah they did that a few weeks ago. Can't do it every time
I saw 13 steps so it would have been right at the limit. The problem like always though is they haven't called that all game and suddenly they ping a player for it. Just need consistency
If he kicked it that distance, it most likely would’ve been paid a mark. It’s not a fun call to make, but I think it was the correct one Keep in mind, it’s not 15 steps, it’s 15 metres. Looks like he ran about 20
BS! FBs run twice that far every time they play on. Upper cut yourself and walk away. Disgraceful call
And it needs to be called when they do. 15 metres is 15 metres. He ran further than 15 metres. Complain about inconsistency all you want, because that’s more than fair, but this one was the correct call
https://preview.redd.it/yzhagjrep41d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6312d39a9b7872a24bed779546e4835a7512e658 How we all feel right now
Both correct calls tho ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
https://preview.redd.it/ha3wsbecp41d1.png?width=1284&format=png&auto=webp&s=242c9fa0ea29be2e1cc740c2e1568145bb7c523a This was too easy
Feel like my call was better, when they were down 30 and crows supporters were melting. https://preview.redd.it/xemqdqflr41d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e7cac57b071bf1dc0d955156e6f66b233eec3c59
give me the lotto numbers
It always is
Pure belief in the umpires
Adelaide getting favoured by the umps all game and Collingwood still win.
Lol
Flair up cunt
Premature officiation.
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BT would.
Wtf is going on in the umpiring department? Is it the umpires they hired? Too many rules? Too strict or not strict enough with rules? Mandates from the higher ups? Whatever is happening, the umpiring has be abysmally dreadful this year.
Yeah mandates to help clubs like you
> Mandates from the higher ups? Gotta get the Victorian teams over the line somehow
That’s like the antithesis of putting the whistle away. Unless he’s run to punt road you don’t call that.
It looked about 17 or 18 steps without a bounce and usually the general rule is 15ish. It was there but you hate to see a free-kick like that, which is sporadically paid at best, decide such a close game like that
He bounced it mate
Counted on the replay, it was 14 on the kick, very tough call that was incorrect.
Yep, just went back on slow-mo, it was 14, don’t know where I pulled 17 or 18 from. Shouldn’t have been a free but it was hard to tell. I’d be more pissed about the inconsistency once again. They rarely ever pay a running too far free kick, then incorrectly pay it at the end of a close game which ends up being the decider.
how did you count 14 metres exactly from a replay
Steps, in response to the original comment
14 steps would easily be more than 15 metres. probably more like 20-25
Oh shit, the Crows might win a tight game. Let's find a free kick to fuck them over
The bias in Collingwood's favor is just unreal lol YOU JUST KNEW THEY WOULD. It was a lucky smother get the fuck over yourself
Flair up cunt
I don’t like the bias but it’s not a bad call, legit played an entire season winning those a couple years ago
I'm not even talking about the call, just the commentators. They can't find their way out of the Magpie's asshole.
Yeah mate right with you, I hate how commentators actively cheer one team. Like get up and about for the occasion but don’t just completely ignore the other team
Come on let him play there.
Funny I’m only seeing pies supporters defending the free. Every neutral seems to think it was bs.
He ran like 25 meters. Its obvious, just look at the grass lines.
How many neutrals do you think would go out of their way to comment on a reddit thread to defend an umpiring decision? Especially if Collingwood was the beneficiary. Contrast that with how many people would jump to whinge about a Collingwood win. Answer that question honestly, and you'll understand the groupthink around here isn't really what the rest of the world thinks.
It's almost like people look for reasons to dislike Collingwood outside of anything that's actually in their control
When half your own fans are calling g it shit, it probably is
Or it was a shit free. Which it was.
It'd be nice if one of these dodgy last minute calls could go our way for fucking once
To be fair in the Collingwood Crows game at Adelaide oval last year, Jones almost decapitated a Collingwood player in the goal square and it wasn’t called. We just weren’t good enough to capitalise on it.
You have to be a Victorian team for that unfortunately.
It really does look sus when it always does seem to favour big Victorian teams, that is like 10 in a row against crows...
That call is way out of line for how that rule has been umpired in the last 20 years
Beggar's belief the ump paid that, didn't seem too far, on the edge, you let that go. So much for putting the whistle away a shame it ended on that. Well done Pies.
Dogshit call that ruined an otherwise fantastic game. Sorry Croms 😔
You probably would have won anyway with those 5 seconds we saw the payers continue but frustrating the umpires like to be so involved
Unless it’s particularly egregious, put the whistle away in moments like that. Let the boys play ffs
Shove your afl apology for a wrong call right up your ass, that’s fucked, 4 times in the last 12 months now, twice against this mob
Not the wrong call, look at the markings.
First flair up cunt, although based on that comment I’d say I know who you barrack for, second get fucked that never ever gets paid, and they just happen to pay it right as we’re making one more push forward
> First flair up cunt, Don't need a flair to point out what happened. He covered about 1.5x the allowed distance before kicking.
It’s literally the joke of this subreddit you fuckin turkey, you see players run far further than that every single game, are you saying that players can only take 10 steps now, because based on your math that would be the case, which is ridiculous
Where did I ever say it shouldn't be called any other time? Lay off the drugs. https://www.reddit.com/r/AFL/comments/1cun0ah/match_thread_collingwood_vs_adelaide_round_10/l4kemrk/ It's also not me just saying it, here is someone with a "flair" so you can get mad at them for being biased, oh wait.
Why don’t you find one of the hundreds of comments from anyone else saying it was a bad call to link this time, oh wait that would prove general consensus is that it was a shit call and you’d be wrong
Found you another, this time a biased Adelaide flair https://www.reddit.com/r/AFL/comments/1cuqzld/did_izak_rankine_run_too_far/l4kfbt0/
Lmfao you went to an entirely different thread, glad you’re so invested in this still, glad you’ve got nothing better to do with your time 👍
Thought you might enjoy a thread of a replay so you can stop being biased. You might need a flair that says "biased" 👍
You can think it is a "bad call" based off of your emotions, but it was the correct call by the book. The free from the "push" before that also was bullshit, but you're not saying anything.
He ran about 30 meters after bouncing it guys. The grass is marked every 10 meters and he runs full across three of them after he bounced it. Its painful but was absolutely a correct call. \*edit, it might be 8 meters per gradient, but still that way too far.
Thanks. It's not even really on the edge is it? He has blown the 15m out of the water.
Flair up cunt
and how often does it actually get interpreted that way? Never, yeah pretty much never
Even if it was correct, which it wasn’t, there should be a directive to put the whistle away for lineball calls in the dying minutes. Ruins so many game.
The weird thing about AFL adjudication though is it's about precedent, and normally they never call that. So to call it in the last 20 seconds is madness.
He ran 13-14 steps if you go watch it.
I’m not saying it was a bad call but it’s based on distance not steps
Sourest taste in the mouth right now. Chances are it doesn't make a difference but let the players decide the outcome, not the umpires
Fuck me.
Great coaching Nicks, amazing stuff once again. Long to a contest half the last quarter when dominating possession.
Crows gotta stop playing in close games, they’re so unfortunate when it comes to umpires
Honestly why do we watch the afl? Interstate teams only serve the purpose of making it look like a national game, it's really a Vic game for Vic people unfortunately
Gee flys face looks like he knows he dodged a bullet
No way the ump saw the bounce and paid it. Maybe one step over being too far by the letter of the law, but that’s not paid 999 times out of 1000. Absolute fuck up.
Earlier in the quarter Nankervis ran further than that (which I felt actually was too far) but wasn't paid
Probably 20 runs in the game longer, horrible call. Must have missed the bounce.
Umpires ruined the end of that game
Probably didn't affect the result as the ball went to ground and got tied up anyway
Yeah probably would have won for sure, but the fact they made it an assurance is shit
Probably didn’t, but it might of
Can't really cry even if it wasn't too far because the kick got spoilt in their 50 anyway
That's why you guys should hate it too, probably was going to be your win but the umpires wanted to get involved
For a ounce with 16 seconds to go. Plenty of chance to win from there.
Point is, there's also plenty of chance for us to get it out too. its just as "controversial" as the gf free kick, which had it not been a free was to an open game space as well
this is displeasing
I doubt we score there at the end but not sure why umps called that.
Was that last free for running too far? I had sound off and couldn't tell
Never change Crows.
That was 14 steps
I'm a runner- I have an idea what 14 strides are worth -it's over 15, but I still wouldn't pay it....it's only ever really paid if it's egregious.
Week after week this happens to us. I wish we didn't need these decisions to win but fuck me it's utterly demoralising for poor umpire decisions in the dying minutes to cost us a shot at it
Free kick for not being Collingwood there. Nice to see the AFL looking after their own as always.
Umpire absolutely panicked and called that
good old umpires ruining a cracker finish with a rubbish call, commentator collingwood bias makes it so much worse every time
Rough call at the end. Adelaide should have won on the whole. Collingwood has the great strength of winning the games they should have won. And winning some of the ones they probably shouldn’t.
Fuck me AFL umpires know how to inject themselves into the game better than any other. No sense of entertainment
Trained by Razor Ray.
The salty tears in this thread are amazing
calls like that make me feel like umpires 100% have some bias
So many salty cunts lmao
Before this gets lost on everyone, Collingwood was not granted one of the most obvious HTB 20m out from goals. As a neutral watching it all balances out tbh
Missing a call is never as egregious as calling something you shouldn’t.
What about De Goey with the most obvious high fend ever in the third directly leading to a goal? It doesn't balance out for some teams.
Collingwood was also down a player the whole entire game, with 6 (I think/not 100% sure) of their list already out on injuries
That's it, right- it's 4 qtrs of outcomes for better or worse.
its not even subtle anymore.. wait it never was
That is absolutely ridiculous, umpires are a disgrace, need to be dropped after a call like that. They obviously just wanted to make that call, they never pay that ever! Especially that time of the game!
Everyone will complain about the correct call then forget that Shultz should have gotten a free and iced the game.
You actually think he ran too far? Or that it would get paid against any Pies player? I mean I’m not blaming the result on it but don’t piss on my head and tell me it’s raining
Yes! :)
The guy who dropped a mark, had it paid, then lay on the ground pretending to be injured to catch his breath, then kicked a goal? He's the reason you guys weren't favoured by the umpires?
Epic own
Go Pies :)
The whistle was well and truly away for the last 5 mins Then they pluck that garbage borderline free
Mate your blokes have been throwing the ball all day without being called. Open your other eye
Lol wtf. Never seen such robbery. Port fan.
Flair up, Port cunt
Several people have commented saying they counted and there’s a variance of like 5 steps either way lol
I saw him take 243 steps
Must be easy to always win those close ones when you have Umpire Protection™️
AFL hates the crows
I was on the phone during that, did the umps serious call him for running too far?
Yes
Fark. Ran too far but holy moly, as if you're calling that
I thought they couldn't keep on getting away with it.