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Melbourne v Freo Round 12 2024


kidwithgreyhair

condolences


Greedy-Subject4783

I agree, scoreline shoulda been well and truly over 100 margin! Flagmantle 2024!


Raffybaby

I knew I wouldn’t have to scroll very far to find this answer. Sorry for your loss.


Necessary_Jump_3705

I really don’t think we’re making the 8 this year 😭


Apart-Ad-8319

2007 grand final geelong 164: Port 44


No_Independent936

What if Port's last 9 points went to Geelong instead? 172-35.


Apart-Ad-8319

Nah that score is too unrealistic for a GF


Salzberger

Absolutely not. 119 is a beautiful number. It's imperfection is what makes it so perfect. 120 is round, even, neat, could mean a lot of things. 119 is unique. I also love that it's 1 point under 20 goals. Which must really annoy them when people say they lost by 20 goals because they didn't, but they know that if they say it wasn't 20 goals they'll just get laughed at even harder.


thelastsquareofTP

Not surprising that a crows fan has thought this deeply about it.


Salzberger

It's not like we have much else going on. Gotta do something while we wait for our Premiership VHS tapes to rewind.


Apart-Ad-8319

Who enjoyed the day more, crom or cats?


Putrid-Cantaloupe-87

Hey. That's not nice


Apart-Ad-8319

Sorry last months match is still fresh


Skwisgaars

2016 loss hurt the most by far (mainly because it's the only Swans GF I've attended) so gonna go with that.


RampesGoalPost

Honestly, I'd change the prelim result so it's syd v gws and then roll the dice. Fuck them Vics


Maximumlnsanity

Not like they’ve got any fans to hold it over our heads either


Chassyg123

Please don’t do us like that it’s the only good thing to happen to the dogs in like 4 generations


Mrchikkin

Gee I dunno, can’t think of anything in particular


Absolutely-Epic

Nothing involving toe-pokes and a ball bouncing strangely at the goal line right?


No_Independent936

I don't care about 2015 enough especially because of 2018. I'll give St Kilda either 09 or 2010, and I am saying this despite me still being pissed off over last nights game.


AdministrativeTour3

Good take - It doesn’t sit right that they didn’t win one. I’d give them 2010 to make the Goddard mark the best grand final mark ever taken 😌


Not-Frog

Leo Barry would be disappointed


LimoDroid

Move the Goddard mark to the last 2 minutes to do that


Superb-Mall3805

This would be my answer too.


CharityGamerAU

Had Saints beaten Pies in 2010 they wouldn't be at 16 now. So St Kilda winning in 2010 helps us as much as changing any result in the last 30 years for Carlton save for the 99 grand final but beating Essendon in the prelim was our grand final.  There's nothing controversial about the 99 grand final either - beaten by the best team on the day. Congrats Saints. You beat Collingwood.


Advanced_Stage6164

Yep. This. As a Carlton supporter no GF I’ve seen has left me as gutted as that replay. While we’re on it: if you ever want to be blown away, watch the draw. And just watch Hayes all day. I have never seen a player work harder.


CosmoRomano

I think Pies would still be on 16 cos if we'd lost 2010 we would've gone into the 2011 GF a lot hungrier.


flyer2x

Same here, the Dees can keep 2021 I just want all those Saints greats to have their premiership


Silverback1990

Saints fan here, thankyou 🥹🙏🏻


Brittane

2013 grand final


C-Dawgy

Any of essendons recent elimination finals


W0lf3h1

Brisbane kick 1 more goal in last year's GF


legally_blond

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Ok-Cow7693

Hard agree. I'd like the pies to lose. Sick of Collingwood supporters being so smug all the time, they need to be humbled


skywideopen3

Involving us: 2016 GF for obvious reasons. Not involving us: probably the 2010 drawn GF.


flyer2x

Just curious, what makes 2016 more desirable than 2022?


willtreaty272

I guess the sense that we were far more dominant that year so it was more ‘deserved’, whereas 2022 kinda came outta nowhere


skywideopen3

I think, while obviously the manner of it was less than pleasant, most Swans fans would agree that we reached that GF ahead of time and Geelong was by a distance the best team that year, so there's no real sense that we "missed" an opportunity (aside from the possibility that something wild could have happened on the day).


uselessscientist

Nobody was beating that 2022 Geelong team. They wanted it more, deserved the win. The Bulldogs got a stack of hell through the entire finals series, and the swans were the best team through the season. Felt like a genuine robbery. 2022 was deserved by the cats. Hawks were great in 2014. It sucked to lose both, but it's fine, you lose to the better team on the day. 2016 will never not sting because it didn't feel like that. 


Maximumlnsanity

Geelong were the best team in footy in 2022 and they flogged us from siren to siren. Hard to dream about what could’ve been when in hindsight it never really on the cards. 2016 however we were the best team, and the Grand Final itself was definitely gettable. We came out flat but Joey Kennedy kept us in it on his own in the first half. We should’ve bowled you over after HT, just a completely wasted opportunity to win another premiership. Also the disrespect in the media and the one sided umpiring made it even more of a sour loss.


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Electronic-Humor-931

I wanted Richmond to win that so bad, I go for West Coast and my brother for Richmond and would have both went to the gf the week after in alas., I'll take the win over Collingwood.


Chiron17

I also wonder whether we'd have won 2019 or 2020 without the blip in 2018. Maybe, but maybe not. I'm over the moon with 3 flags tbh


MatterHairy

Well said


DartFanger

2022 elimination final it is then!


Matt_the_ginger45

Big theory I've heard from some pockets of Collingwood fans that if we win 2018, Bucks gets more of a chance and we miss out on Fly which would have completely changed our current situation


Username8249

2011 grand final. Worst case scenario we become a team that won back to back flags. Potentially it changes the whole Malthouse-Buckley changeover and who knows? Maybe Malthouse coaches on and we get a dynasty, or maybe he steps into the head of coaching role like originally planned and we have more success than Buckley had initially. Big what-if for Collingwood.


CharityGamerAU

That what if impacts way more than Collingwood. It's a genuine league wide what if. If as you suggest Malthouse may have stayed then the last decade for Carlton. It then impacts GWS (the club may not have called on SOS to save it from the Malthouse debacle), Adelaide and Geelong (Betts and Tuohy have always said they would have stayed had we put a genuine offer for both), etc.  Also for Geelong for years when fans and the media criticized Scott for regularly falling short in finals the club was able to point to that grand final. Would he still be coaching them had he not won that grand final? Did he coach as many games as Ken has before winning the 2022 grand final? I believe Ken holds the record for coaching longevity without a premiership.  So many things hinge on that one result.


scraglor

As a pies supporter. There are so many I don’t want to think about it


bigbadbaz1980

2012 GF. Would've been epic to have a 4peat in our history.


Diamond523

A 3peat isn't enough? Fucking Hawks supporters 😂


Lonely-Economist8911

Nah I agree with you dude #flaghoks


impulsiveknob

Our 2014 prelim to the hawks, reckon we'd take the flag after that game


Mission_Lychee_2921

Ohh u guys were the better team just kept kicking more behinds then goals


CharityGamerAU

That game hurt as a neutral. I remember this sub was slanted towards cheering Port and most were pissed off for a while after that game. A few dubious calls went Hawthorn's way in the second half and your goal kicking let you down . 


rocco_cat

2022 Round 23


TheIllusiveGuy

Would also take Round 22


Sigmaniac

2015 prelim Hawks v Freo. To have the western derby in a GF would have been incredible. But my heart might have also given out from the stress of playing freo. Those derbies between 2013-2015 were always very intense and even though they weren't always close scoring affairs, were some great games to watch


dettrick

There would also be a genuine conversation on moving the grand final from the MCG, as having two clubs from the same state/city have to go to the MCG to play the Grand Final seems ridiculous. I'm sure the WA government would have paid out the AFL/MCG whatever revenue they would have lost by moving the GF to Subi


PearOfAces

Port win the 2020 prelim. As much as I would love to have that ‘07 GF erased from existence, it still hurts knowing we were a kick away from a grand final I genuinely think we would’ve won.


Absolutely-Epic

I really wanted Port to win that prelim


LEGOHMS_DUKE

That one stung I thought if we win that game the grannie if Richmond hadn't been our opposition we would of been every chance FUCK YOUR RICHMOND #PREMISHIPSTEALERS #PORT2020


DartFanger

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PetrifyGWENT

Aside from grand finals which are obvious, Essendons answer is so easy, 99 prelim. GWS, last year's prelim.


CharityGamerAU

Clearly Carlton were the biggest winner of that prelim but rhe biggest loser in '99 was arguably the AFL fan. I sincerely believe had Essendon gotten through the grand final would be a classic (so many good Essendon Vs North games from that era) but you also turned the loss into the motivation to absolutely tell the competition to "get rekt" the following year.


fouronenine

That's one heck of hypothetical - do the Don's dominate the following season and a half in the same way without the pain of that prelim loss? Do they get over North in 99, and do they make it a double?


Secretly007

Collingwood were the better team on grand final day, but I thought GWS were the better team during the prelim. It would have been a very interesting grand final, that's for sure.


Maximumlnsanity

Last years Prelim over the 2016 Prelim? I would’ve thought with your finals record against us you’d take that instead


PetrifyGWENT

I think we would've beaten Brisbane pretty easily tbh


Freo_Fiend

I mean 2013 would be the one…


Absolutely-Epic

I would like to see the Saints and Dockers win one


TD003

My initial thought was 2005 Grand Final, but then on reflection, one premiership each over 05-06 was fair. I’ll say 2015 Grand Final. We dominated Hawthorn in the qualifying final, and if the grand final hadn’t been held in Melbourne I think we’d have beaten them again.


No_Independent936

If we played at Optus by then, I think we would've been a chance. Subiaco made us highly inconsistent on a huge ground like the MCG.


TD003

Yeah subi was a blessing and a curse. IIRC one year in the early 2000s we scraped into the finals with 12 wins, 10 of which were at subi.


Red_and_the_White

Agree with you there. As much as consecutive flags would have been nice it makes me content that we both got one each. Both teams deserved a flag and what a great story it was.


Baby_Bigf00t

‘98 Grand Final. Dynasty.


L0rdN3ls0n

2017 GF. It's all been downhill from there...


marsandlui

I wonder what would have happened if we won. Probably no camp or not the same if there was. Would there still have been a drop in 2018 or would we have continued to contend? No rebuild? The GF loss really did trigger everything that came after. Better to finish 3rd than lose a GF


DartFanger

Happy cake day!


scottyj67

2015 prelim. We would of gone on and beat WC in thr Granny...


AnaofArandelle

Can you imagine the pubs in WA for a derby GF?? Police would have one hell of a day And the losing teams supporters one hell of a rest of their life talking footy


StygianFuhrer

Dom Sheed kicks a point 2018


kidwithgreyhair

that's the one


Freakzilla316ftw

2014 GF. Buddy goes b2b by defeating his previous team.


legally_blond

2020 prelim, would have loved to see what we could do in a granny at home Of the GF losses, as much as I would have loved to be at a win last year, 04 to get four in a row would have been pretty special


fcknewsltd

Yeah, I'd want to have seen a flipped '04 GF result or a loss in the PF. Winning that GF is ideal, though.


Foodworksurunga

Tbh I don't believe we would have beaten a prime Dustin Martin in a grand final. Wish we could have reversed the results of both prelims that year.


verba-non-acta

1997 preliminary final against Adelaide. We would have made our first grand final in 30 odd years and had a real chance against St Kilda. That late 90s dogs team had so many stars from my perspective. They deserved that chance.


Perfect_Finance_510

Involving Collingwood you’d probably think 2018 but personally I wouldn’t, we win that and we deprive ourselves of McRae, 2023 and probably the best culture collingwood has ever had. So I’d probably go 2007 prelim with what would have waited for us the next week I think we win. Not involving the pies idk maybe 2019 grand final, seeing GWS win their first flag would have been fun to see


Downtown-Lime4108

?? Everyone going to say a granny they lost


Absolutely-Epic

Yeah but tbh most people also say teams other than their own


migibb

Some North fans nights say the last game of last season. Especially if it wouldn't have changed the McKay compo. Reid + McKercher...


isithumour

None. It's the ones that get away that make the ones that don't more enjoyable!


Absolutely-Epic

I know that you're not a Saints fan now


Frogmouth_Fresh

Libbas point late in the '97 prelim gets called a goal. Reckon we would have beat the saints the next week, but either way how cool would a dogs vs saints gf have been in '97? Us trying to break a 43 year drought, the saints a 31 year drought.


Absolutely-Epic

I feel like the Saints win that but imagine Saints v Dogs in 2009 instead if the doggies win week one against geelong


SensationsVibrations

222-65 lives rent free in my head forever. Was at the game til the end and honestly 2020 helped but didn't completely heal the wound of being 14 watching my team humiliated in such a fashion.


jordypouls05

Involving Richmond: 2018 Prelim Not involving Richmond: 2009 grand final


Competitive_Deal8380

Not involving Melbourne, clearly the 2010 drawn Grand Final. Long suffering saints fans deserve some reward.


Absolutely-Epic

First the Swans broke theirs in 2005 (1933-2005), then the Cats in 2007 (1963-2007), then the Bulldogs (1954-2016), then the Tigers (1980-2017), then Melbourne (1964-2021) and now they've watched all of the long droughts end except theirs.


Unfair_Yak8830

2017 gf


dvnkriot

2007, port win by 474,846,364 points or more sensibly, last year round 19 port v pies, reverse the scores 85-83 ports way


LEGOHMS_DUKE

That would be desirable


ShyCrystal69

The 2023 prelim against Collingwood.


Absolutely-Epic

I don't know if you remember, but Melbourne went out in straight sets again.


ShyCrystal69

I do remember, but I fucking hate Collingwood more than I hate Carlton.


Regional_King

2018 prelim against Collingwood.


PonmonOfNuggetor

‘09 Grand Final Saints deserve a second premiership.


Absolutely-Epic

Actually thats true i'd like to take one off the cats and give it to the saints too


Fast_Stick_1593

Then we get 08 instead


basedimitri

Swap the 07 GF results, I want the power of 119 in the palm of our hands


Absolutely-Epic

This means that by 2013, Port are bad and go down the ~~Essendon~~ St Kilda path after winning a flag, getting the wooden spoon from 2015-2019 and not qualifying for finals from 2010-2022


taspleb

My first thought was the 2018 prelim against Collingwood, but then I would deprive people of the great grand final finish. So instead I would pick the 2023 grand final and my change would be that Collingwood finish on 0.0.0.


windowlicker1985

I reckon it would be most melbourne supporters after today's performance


Absolutely-Epic

Wtf even was that from Melbourne


Bergasms

I'd give the saints a grand final win, or Freo.


smeagolisahobbit

That one. You all know the one I mean.


Absolutely-Epic

The one that was close until it wasn't?


qldboi

2023 GF obviously


Absolutely-Epic

I'm good


LotusChild85

2001 GF is the easy and obvious answer. Round 21, 2000 was somewhat meaningless in the end but to go the whole season unbeaten would've been absolutely incredible. 


Absolutely-Epic

If the bombers win 2001, do they win 2002 and three-peat? Do they win finals past 2004?


WhatInTheShanghai

The round 23 game last year that was adelaide vs sydney. one of the players (i forgot who) got a goal and the referee called it as a behind. if the crows had won that, they could’ve gotten into the top 8 last year. they ended up losing by one point. the referee was sacked for a year or something and the afl apologised. having the crowd in the top 8 last year would’ve spiced things up.


pala_

Essendon win the 1990 grand final for another 20 years of colliwobbles, the meme era of this would have been incredible.


Absolutely-Epic

For personal reasons, probably the least likely game i'd change


TreacleMajestic978

Honestly doesn’t sit right with me that the bounce of a ball cost the saints a premiership. They had em right then and there, and had they of gone back out there and played overtime Im certain they win.


liamjon29

2023 R21. Essendon vs West Coast. I'll take 1 Harley Ried pls.


Absolutely-Epic

Why not the win against the suns? Larkey with the worst 9 goal performance of all time.


Natasha_Giggs_Foetus

I was looking for this


CreditToDuBois

Would have happily taken the 2000 premiership thanks


Competitive_Deal8380

I would prefer the 2023 Qualifying Final. Brayshaw going down but being avenged to some degree


naeroikathgor

I'd love to see that, only if the superflood doesn't happen. Then Essendon's perfect season falls at the very last game and the AFL gets its own '07 New England Patriots


TheCurbAU

Carlton v Freo round 4 2024. Personally, I'd have not given Carlton two free goals at the end.


PrevailedAU

2021. I will die on the hill that Josh Bruce’s ACL cost us a flag.


guavacadq

Hmm. This is a real tough one.


fcknewsltd

I'll nominate the 1996 PF Brisbane v North Melbourne. A fit Michael Voss changes that result, and the Bears spank Sydney for the flag that season. Would have been a nice farewell to the Bears.


BiteNibbleChomp

How about that last Fitzroy game against Richmond? I wasn't even alive then, but the story there would be amazing


guavacadq

I wasn't alive either


W0lf3h1

I would probably go the 85 prelim where Fitzroy lost by less than a goal.


JustSomeBloke5353

83 qualifying is the game you are thinking of, I think.


[deleted]

Last year's prelim or the 2019 gf.


Savings_Iron3590

your contemplating between a gf and prelim?


obsoleteconsole

Melbourne defy massive odds to win 2000 GF


Absolutely-Epic

Like the NY Giants in 2007


Chiron17

2010 GF, sorry Collingwood fans


Occasionaljedi

Last year’s prelim against Brissie. That would have been some granny


Mehmenga

Melbourne would've burnt to the ground no matter who'd win in a Carlton/Collingwood GF


Foodworksurunga

As a lions supporter I would have rather have lost to you lot in a prelim than them in a GF. 6/7 months of pain is better than a lifetime of pain.


Razzle_Dazzle08

2023 Grand Final. I flew in from Perth bro 😭


NewAccWhoDis93

I like your first example ignore my flair


kidwithgreyhair

Carlton v Collingwood round 23, 2022. Carlton wins, Freo make top 4, we take Geelong for the cup


Ventenebris

2018 Prelim probably. Stupid big Cox.


Absolutely-Epic

What a great game. That game had half of his career marks alone too.


TeamElegant5993

In hindsight though, losing that meant you didn't get rolled in the Granny. Ignore flair.


[deleted]

2018 Grand Final. I’m a lifelong Pies member. Earlier that season, I took my then 5 year old kid to the Port v West Coast game as his first game. Eagles won and became his team. To have to tell him early in the 4th quarter that it wasn’t over yet to stop him from crying and a meltdown, only to then see the Eagles win was the most heartbreaking yet magical moment of my life. The dichotomy. How many fathers suffer a grand final loss, yet get to watch and celebrate their kid win a premiership in year zero! And to his credit, he has stuck with them ever since!


Absolutely-Epic

I feel that if we lose that game we would not win 2023, so it wouldn't feel as good, and why isn't the kid going for Collingwood?


Depressedmonke69420

2014 prelim final hawk v port and 2007 grand final 345 - 5 ports way


LP0004

2017 GF of course, that was our year


Cumonboot

sydney swans vs cats 22 gf


aussiegoon

1997 Prelim. 27 years later and that one still hurts the most.


50LI0NS

2004 grand final


Absolutely-Epic

Collingwood have a 4-peat from the 20s, hawthorn and brisbane almost got one too


Gydafud

Varcoe kicks a goal in the 2013 prelim and it goes into overtime. Hawks probably would have still rolled us, but I think it would have been a more epic way to break the curse.


dopedupvinyl

2020 GF so GAJ could go out with another premiership


ribbonsinurhair

I’m surprised no one has said round 23 2022


Absolutely-Epic

They have but no thanks


Natasha_Giggs_Foetus

In my top 3 favourite games ever. Pure ecstasy.


animatedpicket

2005 fucken Leo Barry dog


Absolutely-Epic

yeah but you got one the next year and that moment is iconic. also the swans had the longest drought in football history.


grumpyoldmanBrad

2018 prelim. Mason fucking Cox.


Savings_Cash6829

2019 Prelim


golfalien

2017 GF. Please.


last_pas

While I’ve been a supporter, it would be the 2020 prelim against the tigers. It really felt like our year - it was our 150th anniversary and you could tell the team really wanted it. To lose it by a few points was gutting.


aunty_fuck_knuckle

The match where Carey played against north for the first time.


farqueue2

2002.


da_real_su_tart

2017 grand final.


Silverback1990

2009 Grand Final, St Kilda v Geelong


Absolutely-Epic

Agreed


LesserFlog

2022 grand final: A score line which sees us come closer than 81 points


Agreeable-Web645

Id swap the free kick count around. Instead of 20-8 Bulldogs, I'd go 20-8 Swans. The result would take care of itself


Mehmenga

2019 Grand Final just switch the scores


Whitturne

Guess the only one that makes sense is the 2021 Grand final. But the 1997 prelim is up there


idolaustralian

Round 21, 2000. Fucking bulldogs, fucking Terry Wallace, fucking flooding.


houli_dooli

Essendon 1999 prelim


MaleficentAd3780

2018 grand final against West coast, that last kick being a miss would of been better


Every_Inflation1380

At this point I'll change any game North play, this whole losing business really is exhausting 😅


FLIPSTATIC_ENERGY

I might need to make a whole post just for freo games


Natasha_Giggs_Foetus

2022 prelim. The greatest season I have ever and will ever see as a Collingwood supporter. If they had achieved the comeback they almost made in that last quarter we were winning the flag on willpower alone.


Absolutely-Epic

We would’ve lost the next week tbh


Natasha_Giggs_Foetus

North fans surely have to answer the last game of last season.


sabau67

1st GF 2010. Solidified my lifelong love hate relationship with the game. Damn that bounce.


il-96-300

Obviously 2017 GF, other than that, Adelaide Vs Sydney round 23 2023


Absolutely-Epic

SMH flagcrom vs flagpies grand final would’ve been legendary


seebee81

2008 gf. Only things standing between the Cats and the title of undisputed best of all time


Savings_Iron3590

2021 Grand final


crazefitt

Gather round blues v Freo my team stole a fraudulent win. Dumpires


Junior-Lie-7221

I feel that the flair says it all.


flagnorf25

north melbourne vs bulldogs good friday 2021