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Square-Sock-7561

Number 1 question is how did it run before timing belt changed. If it ran fine before there is something wrong obviously. Engine sounds like it's running late. Give us some more details and we may able to help you.


SnooSongs3549

Engine ran fine but when we took it apart to fix the keyway we saw that the timing marks were nowhere near lined up where they should be even after turning everything trying to line them up, and now it just does that, also it's very difficult to get all the marks to line up with the belt on, like one of the marks Is always slightly off. Whoever did it before has sharpie marks or something on the gears but only 1 mark on each gear so not sure why those are there. Also didn't replace the belt as it looks pretty new, only reason to mess with it is cause we saw the timing marks were way off


AtariVideoMusic

Your CAS adjusted properly?


SnooSongs3549

Not even sure what that is, never really worked on engines before so this is a first, followed a video and had help from my step-dad who was a mechanic, he is very lost too cause all marks lined up


AtariVideoMusic

It’s the Cam Angle Sensor. It’s at the back of the valve cover. You rotate it to advance/retard the timing. Post your question in r/miata and they’ll help you get things right. Also, triple check all the vacuum hoses to make sure that you didn’t forget to connect one.


[deleted]

Did you plug in the spark wires in the right location on the coil??


SnooSongs3549

Yea all the coils are in the right spot


2018hellcat

I had a MX-3 with the 1.8 and 2.5L KLZE, I ran into the timing issue you are describing. It’s lined up but when you pull the retaining pin it’s off a tooth or half a tooth right? Well you need to adjust it to account for that. Basically go a tooth back and when the tension comes on it’s in the right spot. It’s finicky but it’s possible. Also as the other guy was talking about there’s a small diagnostic box under the hood. The MX-3’s was near the firewall around the master brake cylinder, you use a paper clip to make the connection to pin 10 and ground. Maybe start the car without it jumped and let it warm up, when warmed up shut it down and install the paper clip, then you loosen your distributor cap and use a timing light to adjust the timing. You flash it down by the crankshaft pulley, while the clip for the timing light is on cylinder 1’s spark plug wire, the timing belt cover has markings that will coincide with a mark on the crank pulley. Consult a manual that tells you how advanced your timing should be and turn your distributor cap until the notch lines up the the degree of timing you should have. Not to add to your issues but changing your timing belt is a great time to install a new water pump as well as it’s all in the same spot and when the water pump leaks it wrecks your timing belt. Hope this helps, I think I’m correct but it’s been a long time since I’ve done it


[deleted]

ohhhh miata, sry, no ideal, mess with timing? rotate distributor u have to use paper clip and jump 10 to ground to enter programming mode


SnooSongs3549

What are you talking about, you have to mess with electrical stuff to do timing??? That doesn't even make sense


[deleted]

ok, not everyone deserves mx5 confirmed


SnooSongs3549

I've never worked on an engine before, also my step-dad is a mechanic and also has no idea what your talking about, but he's also never worked on a miata


[deleted]

is ok, most mechanic can't do old cars, Google what I said, I has miata na, I know alot


SnooSongs3549

What would programming mode do for anything, what does that even mean.


[deleted]

step 1 bring car to operation temp. 2, find diagnosis port under hood, jump 10 to ground 3, loosen Cas and turn slowly left or right pick 1, and look for engine speed change 4. remove paper clip


SnooSongs3549

The only issue with that is it idles fine, only issue is when trying to rev it above an idle


[deleted]

yea timings off, it sounds too far advanced, need to back off a bit, it's called retard, I'm not calling u names, Google how to advance timing, I can't remember which way to turn, if I have to guess, facing thr car hand on Cas, turn right​, u can only do very minor adjustments just go watch a video on it


SnooSongs3549

Idk if it helps determine anything but when we had the car apart when it was running fine, none of the timing marks were anywhere near lined up. I'll try messing with the cas tomorrow but honestly doubt it's gonna do anything after everything I've tried


[deleted]

how r u reply so fast


SnooSongs3549

Cause I'm on my phone trying to figure out what I'm gonna try next cause I have no car to get to work and can't afford to take it to a shop


SnooSongs3549

And it's 4 am