Most of the time, it's not even sent to collections, and at the worst, it just hurts your credit score. I've disputed $5k+ in hospital bills and told them that even if I won the lottery, I wouldn't pay to bother someone else, and they all got removed. It was around $20k total..
So his argument is Protesters are forcing normal people to not spend their money so the government does not gain the tax dollars.
Ok, so why am I unable to go to work, pick up groceries, head over to the doctor to buy my inflated medicine, pick up my child in order to head to the dentist, put gas in my car....
Like the logic of that is dumb because whether or not you block the road, I still have responsibilities to do. Whether or not the world is on fire, I want to make money so my family doesn't live on the streets. And having me make a detour doesn't prevent me from going to work, in fact it makes me spend MORE money on gas. So in this Tax scenario, not only are protesters making me spend MORE Tax dollars on Gas, but now I'm pissed at the Protesters for making me spend more money for not getting out of the road.
Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk
Not according to this retard.
Some ambulances might contain children. If the child who got in a car accident makes it to the hospital, then there's a chance they might survive. If they survive, then they're going to grow up and eventually get a job and pay taxes. If they're able to grow up and get a job to pay taxes then their taxes are going to fund Israel. If Israel continues to be funded and protected by the US then Palestine will be forced to continue launching terrorist attacks on civilians and take hostages. This has 2 downsides for Palestine, they have to use their supplies to barely keep the hostages alive, and it causes Israel to attack and bomb them (unjustified obviously)
Therefore, we should all be blocking off ambulances.
If they can see and hear them that is. Your shit out of luck if the ambulance or fire truck is 5 blocks down behind a colom of cars who can't get out of the way because people are blocking the road and the protestors can't see or hear the ambulance.
So this guy thinks that the American government is going to calculate the losses generated by workers being delayed by protests and then subtract that from what they were going to give to Israel? If any money is being taken from anywhere, it will be from social programs in the US, not Israel.
Also he brings up the Boston Tea party. If the Boston tea party happened today, it would be $1.7 million being thrown away overnight. Money that would have gone mostly back to the crown. So it was a more direct jab at their wallet.
Making someone late for work doesn't cost anything except their coworker's sanity for that extra hour or two for them to get there. The manager is just going to make everyone else work harder to compensate, lol. The government will never be impacted.
Also the Boston Tea Party was a protest against the [Tea Act of 1773](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Act) so the form of protest was directly linked to the subject of the protest.
To be frank, Protests causes you to make Detours. And because of this your forced to pay for more Gas. So realistically Protests are giving MORE Tax Dollars to the government
"Protest are supposed to be disruptive"
Take it from a french man : protests are supposed to disrupt the state when people openly voicing disagreement is not enough. If you just disrupt a bunch of people you're only going to be hated
The Palestinian protests are really bad for this in canada. They refuse to go to government offices to protest.
Instead they exclusively do it in skating rinks, shopping malls, and Jewish neighborhoods.
I have no inherent problem with protesters. The problem is that I think most protesters are retarded.
This is the point I thought of immediately when he said that. These are foreign policy decisions made by the federal government, so maybe disrupt business at federal institutions by protesting there instead? Show your Democrat overlords that their choices are against your desires as a taxpayer.
How does disrupting the coffee shop cashier who is going to get fired for not knowing to leave an hour early to get to their minimum wage job help change the hearts and minds of politicians in control of foreign policy? By that same token, how does disrupting state institutions do that either?
Can anyone confirm if this guys name is Calvin..? If so I went to school with him and hooooooboy was he a character.
Edit: Did some digging, it’s him alright. Brian Griffin personified irl is the best way to describe him. Homeboy loved to start Facebook debates and fall back into ad hominem when he couldn’t win an argument. Glad to see he still has that compulsion and is now on tiktok with it haha
What logic is this??
Man is unhinged.
Disrupting minimum wage worker lives earning a simple paycheck supports Palestine?
By that logic, the average minimum wage worker is against Palestine simply by working a job to survive?
What in the ever fucking fuck?
I'm guessing his chain of thought was that suddenly disrupting someone on their way to work would make them think "God damn if only my country did thing protestors want so they would stop protesting!"
But in reality, the opposite happens and people out of spite take the opposing view protestors want.
Not the point the dude is making. He is saying any disruption of taxes being paid of any sort and being collected by the IRS is lowering the ability to fund the war in Palestine. The livelihood or moral compass of the minimum wage worker is thrown under the bus, so to say. It's a factor that's not being considered
to make it even simpler, he's saying that to kill the tiger on the top of the food chain, catching as many tadpoles as you can on the pond is the way to do it.
lol he clearly hasn’t been paying attention lately. Doesn’t he know that the government doesn’t care about our taxes…they just money printer go brrrr when they want something.
I mean I'm personally not going to listen to someone who is holding a phone in one hand while holding food in the other trying to talk about politics. I'm not going to take you serious at all. And the best part is he films himself eating and talking with his mouth full. Nah homie.
But yeah also agree with not disrupting an average person's day with the protest. I'm all for protesting for the right reasons. But if you're trying to disrupt someone's day go to the politician's house who are supporting the wrong side and stand in their streets. Fuck up their day.
The brain rot will only get worse. They will start saying that going to work is actively supporting genocide and that you shouldn't go to work out of protest.
He said any disruption to the economy helps disrupt the supply of tax money to Israel. It wouldn't end it unless a massive general strike took place, but not being able to achieve projected profit for the day ( and paying the taxes on those transactions) affects the ability of the US government to fund Israel's side In Palestine. One minimum wage worker not getting to work wouldn't mean jack shit, but 30k,300k,3kk or more of them would definitely send a message and start making an issue.
This approach doesnt consider the situation of the estranged worker in the scenario, but I guess overall, if the goal is accomplished, less tax money will be leaving the US and potentially be used internally rather than externally ( unlikely, but...it's there I guess)
General strikes/protests work. But you need to reach critical mass. And typically, most people are unable to achieve/organize it.
By that logic, they’d be better off stopping CEOs and high earners. In WoW terms, they’re basically farming lesser healing potions for this mythic raid which is retarded.
Right? He really thought he had something with the Boston Tea Party bit.
His analogy would work if the product being destroyed had anything to do with the country involved. He has TikTok brain rot.
This is why I kinda hope they keep this up. More and more regular people are gonna see it and decide to vote for the opposite of whatever it is they’re protesting. Just because they’re an inconvenience.
already happened in my country. Not the biggest of fan of the guy people voted for instead, but the switch to the right was a political landslide that started the second people started protesting in assholish ways
That was always my train of thought, I feel like it doesn't really calculate the amount of opposing people it creates. If your message just makes the average person angry it really doesn't help anyone. I do wonder though if it's the times we live in too.
This guy is a friggin idiot and his Boston Tea Party analogy makes no sense whatsoever. Its really infuriating how ignorant and smug this guy is.
The Boston Tea Party were the Sons of Liberty blocking British ships from unloading their British tea into the American colonies, the most critical thing they did was literally entering British ships and throwing British tea into the harbor. No Americans were harmed by this action. Infact the Sons of Liberty tried to aid Americans because "no taxation without representation", as the saying goes.
Imagine if the Sons of Liberty did what the Pro-Palestine group does... They go to fields where American settlers work, and they just sit the field, preventing harvest/working in the field.... Or they just block roads so that horses and carriages carrying goods can\`t travel to a town/village/city.
Ahh yes they totally showed the British Royal Parliament raising taxes on the American Colonies by preventing American-settlers from working......................................... I am totally sure Britain will think twice know about raising those taxes by exporting tea to America.....................
The Sons of Liberty protested something that directly affects Americans and did it in a way that doesn\`t harm Americans, while only harming the very thing they are protesting ( i.e. the Tea Act where the British Parliament raises taxes on exporting tea to the American colonies )....
The Pro Palestinians protest something that doesn\`t impact them, as they protest for a third-party across the Ocean ( that can be noble and morally righteous, don\`t get me wrong ), but they do this in a way that only harms the working Americans, doesn\`t have any impact on the American government which could do something, and it doesn\`t have any impact on Israel which is the country they condemn for allegedly doing XXX..... Its so atrocious to defend this.
The only way where I would understand with protestors blocking roads, would be if the protestors were either anti-car, anti-road, anti-money or anti-work. In that case the protest is directly related to the method of how they protest, which is what all protests should be.... You want to protest financial bankers ? Go to wallstreet. You want to protest the government ? Protest infront of Congress. You want to protest foreign countries raising taxes on you while they export tea to you ? Go to the border/harbor where the tea is being imported...... It really shouldn\`t be that weird or difficult to do.......
Don´t harm people completely unrelated to the thing you are protesting, especially not people who can\`t afford it...........
he's dumb AF.... if they are gonna protest to to Washington DC or the freaking Congress or better protest on the Army bases.... not protest on the road. your just fueling the people to hate the protest more.
Anyone can mental gymnastics their way into defending literally any behavior or action.
Doesn’t matter if it’s murdering someone or illegally blocking public roads.
If the purpose of protests is to alienate anyone who didn't start off supporting your cause, and instead make them hate your cause and possibly help the other side out of sheer spite... mission accomplished I guess.
Guy is a retard. Asmon has already covered everything he brought up just like everyone else. There’s no debate about it, being a disruptive protest is illegal.
Stay out the roads.
I... dont get it... Disrupting timmy who works at wendys helps Palestine how? I hope these people realize if you keep fucking with people they will have a breaking point and will fuck back, if you poke the bear once and nothing happens and you KEEP poking the bear the bear will EVENTUALLY get annoyed and attack, Sure they wanna protest palestine ya w.e DO IT BY NOT SUPPORTING THESE COMPANIES, stop buying starbucks if enough people do they will do w.e you want once enough money is loss. But alas these people dont even have enough money to buy that expensive ass starbucks cause they dont work clearly since they sit in the middle of the road all day blocking the people who has a job from making money.
They think that when Timmy won't be able to go to work the whole Wendy's will have to close thus not making money thus not paying taxes and thus US government won't have money to fund war.
In reality, if Timmy won't get to Wendy's his work will be done by the other people there, or he will be fired and other Joe will be hired...
It might be one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. Not only it doesn't make sense to compare the morality of irl actions to actions in a pvp game, you can literally choose to play pve instead to bypass those types of actions from other players.
Also isnt most of these shops owned by private people who just bought rights to the brand and are paying royalties. So basicly biggest losses go to workers and business owners. But the actual brand company doesnt suffer that much as their majorty income is from selling the rights and sending the products.
This is true at least in part, I know a lot of guys who argue stealing from a Walmart is a "victimless crime" but the corporation doesn't take the hit. Those thefts and "accidents" come out of bonuses and end up in cut hours for the employees. All that stuff stays store level and they have to hit that line come the end of the fiscal year.
Problem is, in his analogy, the only people being disrupted are the one directly involved on the other side. They're not random people, it's targeted interruption.
So go interrupt something that actually targets the people responsible
This guy is a complete dipshit, he talks about how these protestors are "disrupting the economy", when in reality the economy isn't going to move an inch because of this and the only change this will have is normal people trying to live their lives being disrupted as collateral damage from the protest.
See I think he's right about one thing, protests should be disruptive. However in this case he's confusing disruption with obstruction. You cant literally obstruct people from going about their lives and doing so certainly doesn't help the cause
His Boston tea party analogy doesn’t make sense, the disruption went clear to the source when they attacked the ships at the harbor. They didn’t think to go to peoples houses and then destroy the tea because they’d be disrupting the very people you’d want on your side.
well minimum wage workers can't do shit about the problem you're protesting. protest in front of congress. they approve the budget, not people who work for private firms.
These people are so dumb, the point of a protest is to be disruptive to THE PEOPLE YOU'RE PROTESTING AGAINST!!. Not your average Joe just trying to get to work.
When you disrupt your average Joe, they not only start to view you in a more negative light but also the cause you are pretending to care about, because you're now negatively impacting their lives.
You moronic protesters THINK the average Joe blames the cause your "Protesting" against but they don't....they blame the protesters...and rightfully so.
1. Genocide is a very trendy word right now for these brainwashed morons, but that's not whats happening in Israel, 2 sides are fighting and people die, that's called a "war".
2. The US isn't "funding" a genocide, they're helping an ally.
3. The US isn't just throwing money at Israel, they're providing military aid which is made by American hands and provides work for tens of thousands of Americans. On the contrary, Qatar and Iran are funneling money into Hamas which is specifically funding terrorism.
4. All those riots are doing an amazing job at strengthening and validating Hamas who'll gladly see America burn and who's still holding hostages (including Americans).
5. Fuck all these clowns.
one of these days they're gonna mess with the wrong driver having a very bad day.
all I want is for it to be captured on video so I can watch it and simply say: "yup"
Remember the Hong Kong protest? (Pre-violent era) despite the number of people protesting, we still make way for cars, buses and ambulances. We stayed on one side of the road and only taking one lane. We make sure it is peaceful and as non disruptive as possible. Until the violent ones take over that’s where I draw the line. Reddit please I’m in compliant of national security law
Point 2. Protesting about your taxes dollars going to the side you don't like, how does that translate to disrupting people from going to start bucks, how does stopping traffic, emergency services in anyway relate to your tax dollars doing to the side you don't like.
Dude kept such an open mind it fell put and he hasn't been able to find it since. I agree with the commenter who said take it to DC/Washington or whatever, get the fuck out of the street.
This is such a dumb take all they doing is making normal people hate them. I see the same problem over and over with these protests instead of protesting outside congress or their local government and making the politicians and lobbyists who make these decisions lives difficult, they instead make you who can do nothing about it life difficult. The politicians don't give a F if it doesn't affect them personally. But jello brains like this guy are coming out more and more with their hot takes to get virtue signal points. Im glad tiktok might be banned, not because of censorship but because they purposely promote crap like this to make the youth think it is the popular opinion.
So, donate to isreal ? End war faster = no more protests inconveniencing the minimum wage worker who just wants to get to work so they can afford a meal and a roof?
Dude just disapprove his own point by trying to make a parallel with wow lol, palestanians protesters in the USA is the most silly and dumb shit can ever exist, literally stupid people
This mindset force you to use paper straw while Taylor Swift is flying above their road block. Hypocrisy. Go protest bigger companies or celebs. They earn more and tax more than 50 low wage workers on their way to work.
Just in case it wasn’t clear to everyone he’s saying that any purchase made and money earned in the US is contributing to genociding Palestinians. The goal of blocking the minimum wage worker is to essentially prevent that person from living in the US. If they could kill the minimum wage worker without consequence they would because that would be the easiest and most effective way at preventing their earned income and consumption from supposedly going to Israel. They couldn’t care less about that minimum wage worker is what they’re saying.
This guy is stupid. So he actually wants people to lose their jobs to destroy the economy?
Newsflash, lots of people are jobless. Lots of people are starving. We're still going to send money to Israel.
We could have half the American population on the streets half-dead, and Congress would still be sending money to Israel.
This strategy just doesn't work. They could collapse the entire American economy before having any measurable impact on war donations.
Protests are supposed to be peaceful, boycotts can be destructive to a companies profits, and blocking the road is just straight up illegal.
By blocking the road you are asserting you have the power to restrict/prevent a citizens right to travel.
When you take people rights away they will target you before they care about your cause.
Protests are supposed to be disruptive... to the people who can actually make a difference, not some random dude trying to get to work at a 9-5. Why would you not protest at your state or federal office? Did this guy think he was making a good argument?
And so the criminal justifies it's action. As always.
These protests harming people who have no power in changing what the protests should change.
But it's easy for you to feel morally superior without harming yourself.
I do understand what he's trying to say but it's still too naive. Yes, while the US has a huge portion of tax revenues from Individual Income Taxes (https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/americas-finance-guide/government-revenue/), doing it for any duration lesser than a couple of years, and only in specific locations, will do jack shit and will be barely a dint to the tax revenue for the government. And honestly this will also only work on a government that is populist and cares much of what the general populace says.
Meanwhile them doing this will like many others mention, just alienates them and their cause from the masses.
The problem with people like this is their whole premise of "Protests are supposed to be disruptive" is wrong, and myopic.
The objective of protests is to \*influence people\* to change their minds. Sometimes, yes, this does entail disruption. Disruption is the means, not the end in itself.
It all depends on who you are trying to influence and how you go about it. If you go about it the wrong way, and just piss off the people who were supposed to influence, you're hurting your cause.
It's the same simplistic thinking along the lines of, "just do something, anything", or "even if it saves just one life, it's worth it".
Wrong. These tag lines sound nice, but the world is complex and unintended consequences is a real thing.
Tax dollars is funding nothing in the US, the government takes loans.
In this case he acts like as if the alliance members prevent the hord from getting bruised weed, but the hord players are complaining because griefing is fucking stupid when you can buy bruised weed from any regular NPC vendor.
As if tax dollars generated in the economy has anything to do with how much congress spends anymore. We could have 0 tax revenue and Congress would still find a way to send billions overseas.
I'm not too sure disruptive protest curry much positive public favor anyways. It would be better to "march on Washington" or to directly lobby politicians instead.
So following his logic, to be REALLY disruptive, instead of throwing tea into water, they had to beat children slaving in factories to the point they couldn't work instead... Jesus, these people actually can vote...
american tiktokers care about tax dollars going for genociding palestinian folks but not russian folks. it just means they are willing to support aggressors in one case and not another. peperidge farm remembers when folks used to vote for their best representative from their districts regardless which party they were from, like how democracy is supposed to run.
The 2 acts are so fucking different I've written this post like 8 times trying to come up with a succinct way to say it.
The Boston tea party was arguably stupid as shit and misdirected as well. But yknow what the "sons of liberty" did shortly after? Fucking raised an army and prosecuted their greivances.
These people are free to join hamas to "stop the genocide"
The disruption is mismatched. The individual people you're blocking in the road can literally have their lives ruined by you blocking them, whereas you blocking the road isn't even a blip on the chart for Israel vs. Palestine.
How much economic damage, realistically, are these road morons even causing collectively? Six figures? Seven figures? Low eight figures? Yeah I'm sure that's going to cause a lot of grief for the Federal Government when they're giving away twelve figures to other countries every year like it's chump change lmao.
My personal stance on Israel vs. Palestine is fuck em' both. We should completely stop funding or supporting either of them in any way.
He is making good points but used stupid arguments.
Yes protests are supposed to be disruptive and attract attention, but there is no end game. There’s nothing to gain without having a clear goal.
Besides, most people don’t care what they’re protesting about because it has zero impact on them or they’re simply not informed.
You can’t make them understand the issue at hand by protesting alone. You need to have a clear plan and program on educating people about it.
Also you don’t even go ahead with any of that before exhausting all of your legal options. Protesting is your last option when everything else fails. Going backwards isn’t going to give you any results and you’re just making a fool of yourself.
Half of the people protesting have no idea what they’re protesting about, and half of those who do, have no idea what the goal is.
Not only is the boston tea party a complete diferent situation it didn't stop people from getting to work on time on all the other business at the time. Blocking a road stops everyone from getting to work.
I switched off just before WOW and then went DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
This dudes a white noise generator and not the kind some can sleep to willingly.
I understand the reasoning behind it, but it’s the lowest form. There’s better, way more effective, less lazy ways.
If you’re fucking me to fuck someone else to stop fucking someone else, it’s a hot mess. Just fuck the person directly.
You’re never going to get me to join you by fucking me
True protesters and activists would be going against corporate instead of the innocent working class and obstructing streets or potential emergency rescue services.
Not to forget some of those "climate activists" were actors paid by Blackrock, probably the ones who put the idea of gluing hands onto the pavement into gullible fools.
Why are they always so smug? There’s something just so repulsive about the way these types wave their finger at you and demand you kneel to their worldview.
They are all the same.
I was scrolling down looking at his replies. He replied to a commentator who was stressing that people will lose their jobs if they can't get to work. He then replies, "that's the problem of capitalism requiring people to work-". what unhinged piece of shit.
What an entitled and priviledged imbecile... for him it's all like a game becausw HE ain't at the receiving end - hence why he can easily compare this to a game.
He should pray to never need an ambulance for himself, a friend or a family member while some 'alliance players' are 'griefing' the road the ambulance needs to take to get to him.
Hypocrite.
People sitting in the road doesn't disrupt the state it only disrupts civilians. These people are being stupid and should instead go to congress or write a letter to their senator.
The Boston tea party disrupted the tea market in America. It happened because England was exorbitantly taxing tea. It's a direct protest to direct problems
These pro Palestine morons are taking one side, making their thinking rigid, and won't stop to examine the 60 years of history between both countries.
Is Israel in the wrong, yeah they should stop aiming at hospitals and humanitarian efforts.
But Israel was attacked and is still being shot at by missiles. Iron Dome is putting in work. They really are taking it like America took 9-11.
It's the middle east, there's blood on everyone's hands.
I don't see how disrupting sales tax would help gaza but ok boomer
“Uhm achshually, it’s okay to be a disruptive asshole and create a nuisance for people who cannot meet my demands and play no direct role in the thing I’m opposed to, because something something something” 🤡
I stopped halfway through but the main two takes he shared in that time were dumb as shit. A false equivalency and a confused, reductive view of how funding works.
Does this guy really believe these protest are doing any amount of significant economic damage that matters? Does effectiveness matter at all? Are you in the wrong if you do something completely ineffective that hurts a bunch of people along the way? These kind of ends justify the means people are the exact kind of people you don’t want making change in society.
Better to do the protest at government buildings that make the big choices. Just blocking people on the road just does net you 1) -$ to big bad movement but also 2) Bad faith from Joe trying to not make his boss mad.
Though I do get how much harder it probably would be to protest the guys who actually make the big decisions because they would likely have better security to deal with them. Still would probably get more eyes on it though.
Stands in road all month and 6 days ago Bidens government sent Israel 26 billion dollars. Their protesting is doing nothing. They can keep fake caring and blocking roads all day and it won't stop Israel from taking out hamas. Brain broken liberals really do have main character syndrome.
So stopping emergency vehicles,making people late and possibly fired from jobs or to get kids waiting to be picked up,making people late from getting to hospitals for kids being born and on and on is ok because its supposed to be disruptive. Even though these disruptive actions do less than zero to help the cause they claim to be fighting for and only make people less likley to supoort the cause. There are many ways to have disruptive protests like at congress peoples offices who actually right laws that dont make eceryday strugling peoples lives worse
This is some insanely bad logic. They only achieve their aims if they get more people to support them. This activity actively gets people to hate them and by proxy the thing they're supporting. What this guy is describing is that he believes you get the government to do what you want is by bullying working people. \\
Does he really think people are just gonna keep taking this shit. Eventually people are gonna be calling for these people to get fucked up by the police and cheering when they see it on TV. I feel like job #1 of a protester is being able to understand public sentiment and these people just have no fucking clue. I get why people think they're just all mentally unwell because this is peak retard shit.
If a protest is disruptive and it spreads the desired message creating more like-minded individuals than enemies, it is a successful protest. Protests for an issue as big the israel-palestine one will never have immediate effects. The only way for protestors to get their desired results, is to convince the general populace that they are in the right and to vote with those ideals in mind. That being said, a disruptive protest will always have new people agreeing and acting on the message being spread, and new people disagreeing and acting on that same message, be it because they disagree, or because they hate the act of protesting. At the end of the day, I can't tell which side is getting more followers. But if it is the protestors, than protests are what they should do. And if it is not the protestors, than they need to device new ways to get people to follow their message.
So, based on this logic, if you buy anything, you're in the wrong.
Do you think that this guy is gonna quit his job and never buy anything ever again? Is he gonna force his family to also? No?
HMMM
Yeah but the difference is after so much "Give a shit about the thing." I've become such a jaded fuck that I take joy in the protestors misery far more than giving a flying fuck about their cause.
Eh. Sorry but punishing the common folk who are already struggling does not equate much to big, chunky companies or their cash flow. It's just being a troll.
Why would you stop at blocking traffic? Start throwing some shit like bricks, prepare some molotov coctails, burn the cities on fire, destroy the ambulances, shot some fires around. It is supposed to be destructive right??? I meaaaan more you destroy more Palestinians are supported! Look at terrorists and see how they support their causes when they blow people up!!!!
Yes. This is exactly how terrorists justify their actions.
Blocking the road as a form of protest actually does the opposite as you alienate the people who have zero say in policy reform. Now all those whose time got wasted instead of being on your side will have negative feelings about your protest. And if their vote could have helped your cause, the likelyhood they will vote against it out of spite is high. And his analogy with Wow is trash.
>Protests are meant to be disruptive
Yeah you should disrupt shipments of weapons from usa to israel. Oh, not as easy? Dangerous? Disruptive to you being alive? Well, off you go to be disruptive!
Protests are supposed to be disrupted?
Providing us with an explanation about bruiseweed and potions to kill X boss quicker, i do not think this man played (much if) any wow, he could have just pointed to the **Ungoro Crater Mafia.**
Now, depending on ones own point of view, he could be making a point, however the problem with blocking roads does not only result in allegedly less taxes being paid, the following;
The person who filled up their tank of gas, still needs to drive X miles to get to the blockade, only to be told to turn around and try again another day. Gas is still being used.
Problem however is that the person now has a likelihood to get fired from his or her job, especially if it is a business like amazon they work for.
Which results in less income, and as jobs aren't easy to come by nowadays, hungry children.
So you may think you have saved 1 dollar of taxes going to fund the war over there, you are ruining the live of an fellow citizen and their family.
You are not merely disrupting the economy with those kind of actions, you are actually putting the heads of YOUR FELLOW COUNTRY CITIZENS, on the chopping block with this, you hypocrite.
But who cares about their fellow citizen if they can virtue signal to people they never spoke to, and will never see by doing things that will NOT change anything.
You know what will help, buying a ticket and going to palestinia and be part of the relief effort, if you want to make an impact for the people over there, you will.
You may think that the disruption of the economy is going to stop "war" being send, it will not, what more likely will happen is that your social justice funds will dry up 100 years before the US gov will stop sending weapons "to their allies" to that side of the world.
Also, i am not sure how the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston\_Tea\_Party](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party) has anything to do with this, because they fought for something 1. happening on their own soil 2. against a form of economic discrimination within their own economy. Then again, i am not familiar with the boston tea party, so correct me if i am wrong.
(P.s. i may be missing a lot of context, my response is based on this mans explanation + knowing how the extinction rebellion blocks roads, the only difference is that the reason is not "climate", the OP's protest is against tax dollars being send to palestinia.)
Protesting is essential for meaningful change. Slavery wasn't just ended on a whim for no reason. Women's rights aren't where they are now without disruptive protests. The hundreds of thousands of movements which have worked toward positive change have been thanks to protesting.
There will never be any change if everyone simply stays silent, the Israeli government have got away with open and continuous war crimes for decades now and have only got away with it because everyone has been silent on it. Now people are finally waking up.
if you want to protest a conflict, you march and protest typically in front of either the congress building or in front of the white house. Since you know this is an issue the federal government deals with. There are ways to protest properly that do actually work.
We're talking about individuals not getting to work and not getting paid. It would be better if they were paid per hour on the road but that's not the case for most people. They are hurting regular workers directly
Airport protests made me almost miss my 6 month planned work flight and almost lose my job in a shitty job market where there are only part time jobs. My opinion went from “poor Palestine” to “fk Palestine” real quickly.
Stopping American tax dollar flow isn't going to do shit unless you plan on blocking every road in the US for the entire fiscal year. This isn't some game of inches where Israel gets one firearm less in an aid package and that somehow stops them.
And the government can just go into debt with the country they are sending aid to. They don't actually need our taxes for that lmao.
Bro said all of that to prove nothing. Blocking roads will never end up resulting in a net positive for whatever the current issue is, no matter how hard these people try to make that the case.
The American colonialist in Boston threw the British East Indian Company’s tea imported from China without paying taxes in the Harbour.
French workers sympathizing didn’t throw French wine in the harbor in Calais in France and Spaniard didn’t throw oranges grown by Spanish farmers in the Harbour in Arricefe.
Go be disruptive in Jerusalem or Tel Aviv. Head over to Gaza and protest the IDF there. Otherwise, you’re just being a nuisance to people and you really have no skin in the game.
People need to learn how to make a point and tell a story... I'm only 5 second in and it feels like hours.
Edit - I just finished the whole thing and still don't know what he said. What year is it?
Edit2 - Kevin spacey voice and story's that go no where. And listening takes years off your life.
Stfu dude, just stay out the fkn road because the people driving on it don't care about what ever is being protested. Only because you're blocking our way.
The example of the Boston Tea Party is stupid. They did that because the issue was DIRECTLY related to the tea itself and the taxes on said tea. There are other issues as well but that’s the main one.
Funnily enough, I can see Asmongold either just taking this appart point by point prooving him wrong, or just ignoring it, because it's THAT stupid. Either way, will enjoy if he makes a video about this...
I'm pretty sure if you tried to block someone from returning to their home during the time of the Boston tea party incident, you'd be the one needing an ambulance, ironically one would never come.
I bet this guy feels like he accomplished something in this video, all he accomplished was to get people to hate protestors even more. Our gov will do what it wants, they will get money regardless of protestors
Lol, they will always find the littlest of things to justify fucking up peoples lives. They will still send weapons using your taxes even if 4 starbucks had a bad Tuesday. Fucking lol.
So go burn down a corporations warehouse if you're gonna use the Boston tea party as an example ffs. All the road protests are accomplishing is getting the common man to oppose your cause
Except blocking someone from having a potion in a video game doesn't fuck with their life because it's just a game. Blocking the road from some minimum wage worker trying to get to work can cause them to lose their job, or lose hours to where they can't pay their bills and actively harms them just so you can protest.
If you want to protest do it in front of your local courthouse, do it in front of the white house, do it in places where the people you disrupt are directly related to what you are upset with. In this case tax money funding wars. Blocking somebody from getting to their Mc-job means nothing to the people who actually make these decisions. They don't care you are protesting, the only people you affect have nothing to do with anything and no power to even help your cause if they wanted to.
The mental gymnastics of this dude. The public and busy workers who live pay check to pay check can't afford to protest or deal with being late to work with perhaps losing my job. Protest to those that can do something about it, is your state politicians and election sites.
Blocking ambulances in the U.S. doesn't help anyone in the Middle East.
On the bright side, atleast it saved the patient a 500k Uber bill
Most of the time, it's not even sent to collections, and at the worst, it just hurts your credit score. I've disputed $5k+ in hospital bills and told them that even if I won the lottery, I wouldn't pay to bother someone else, and they all got removed. It was around $20k total..
So funny how easy bill collectors give up when you tell them you ain’t paying shit
You are a bit out of line....but your are goddamn right
So his argument is Protesters are forcing normal people to not spend their money so the government does not gain the tax dollars. Ok, so why am I unable to go to work, pick up groceries, head over to the doctor to buy my inflated medicine, pick up my child in order to head to the dentist, put gas in my car.... Like the logic of that is dumb because whether or not you block the road, I still have responsibilities to do. Whether or not the world is on fire, I want to make money so my family doesn't live on the streets. And having me make a detour doesn't prevent me from going to work, in fact it makes me spend MORE money on gas. So in this Tax scenario, not only are protesters making me spend MORE Tax dollars on Gas, but now I'm pissed at the Protesters for making me spend more money for not getting out of the road. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk
Not according to this retard. Some ambulances might contain children. If the child who got in a car accident makes it to the hospital, then there's a chance they might survive. If they survive, then they're going to grow up and eventually get a job and pay taxes. If they're able to grow up and get a job to pay taxes then their taxes are going to fund Israel. If Israel continues to be funded and protected by the US then Palestine will be forced to continue launching terrorist attacks on civilians and take hostages. This has 2 downsides for Palestine, they have to use their supplies to barely keep the hostages alive, and it causes Israel to attack and bomb them (unjustified obviously) Therefore, we should all be blocking off ambulances.
In fact, RPGing ambulances containing children is the moral thing to do. It ENSURES reduced funding for Israel... disruptively.
It does for those who want Death in America literally
Every protest I’ve gone to has let ambulances and fire trucks go through though.
If they can see and hear them that is. Your shit out of luck if the ambulance or fire truck is 5 blocks down behind a colom of cars who can't get out of the way because people are blocking the road and the protestors can't see or hear the ambulance.
So this guy thinks that the American government is going to calculate the losses generated by workers being delayed by protests and then subtract that from what they were going to give to Israel? If any money is being taken from anywhere, it will be from social programs in the US, not Israel.
Also he brings up the Boston Tea party. If the Boston tea party happened today, it would be $1.7 million being thrown away overnight. Money that would have gone mostly back to the crown. So it was a more direct jab at their wallet. Making someone late for work doesn't cost anything except their coworker's sanity for that extra hour or two for them to get there. The manager is just going to make everyone else work harder to compensate, lol. The government will never be impacted.
Also the Boston Tea Party was a protest against the [Tea Act of 1773](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Act) so the form of protest was directly linked to the subject of the protest.
Yeah the guy does a horrible comparison with the tea party, which is actually directly related to the problem unlike them just sitting in the road
This guy doesn't think. He just wants to get farmed on stream for exposure.
To be frank, Protests causes you to make Detours. And because of this your forced to pay for more Gas. So realistically Protests are giving MORE Tax Dollars to the government
"Protest are supposed to be disruptive" Take it from a french man : protests are supposed to disrupt the state when people openly voicing disagreement is not enough. If you just disrupt a bunch of people you're only going to be hated
The Palestinian protests are really bad for this in canada. They refuse to go to government offices to protest. Instead they exclusively do it in skating rinks, shopping malls, and Jewish neighborhoods. I have no inherent problem with protesters. The problem is that I think most protesters are retarded.
This is the point I thought of immediately when he said that. These are foreign policy decisions made by the federal government, so maybe disrupt business at federal institutions by protesting there instead? Show your Democrat overlords that their choices are against your desires as a taxpayer. How does disrupting the coffee shop cashier who is going to get fired for not knowing to leave an hour early to get to their minimum wage job help change the hearts and minds of politicians in control of foreign policy? By that same token, how does disrupting state institutions do that either?
Can anyone confirm if this guys name is Calvin..? If so I went to school with him and hooooooboy was he a character. Edit: Did some digging, it’s him alright. Brian Griffin personified irl is the best way to describe him. Homeboy loved to start Facebook debates and fall back into ad hominem when he couldn’t win an argument. Glad to see he still has that compulsion and is now on tiktok with it haha
his handle says calbingenome
I dug a little and it’s him alright. He hasn’t changed a bit.
Dude is missing some parts of his genome.
F. I'm ashamed to share the same name now.
I'm with you Calvin, we need a support group
Don't be ashamed, we share 99.9% of his DNA too
Can't tell if you're joking or not, but his tiktok name is Cal
What logic is this?? Man is unhinged. Disrupting minimum wage worker lives earning a simple paycheck supports Palestine? By that logic, the average minimum wage worker is against Palestine simply by working a job to survive? What in the ever fucking fuck?
I'm guessing his chain of thought was that suddenly disrupting someone on their way to work would make them think "God damn if only my country did thing protestors want so they would stop protesting!" But in reality, the opposite happens and people out of spite take the opposing view protestors want.
His chain of thought stopped before any thinking materialized into words. Hence the video.
Not the point the dude is making. He is saying any disruption of taxes being paid of any sort and being collected by the IRS is lowering the ability to fund the war in Palestine. The livelihood or moral compass of the minimum wage worker is thrown under the bus, so to say. It's a factor that's not being considered
to make it even simpler, he's saying that to kill the tiger on the top of the food chain, catching as many tadpoles as you can on the pond is the way to do it.
Trickle up economics!
lol he clearly hasn’t been paying attention lately. Doesn’t he know that the government doesn’t care about our taxes…they just money printer go brrrr when they want something.
sales tax is collected by local government, but
I mean I'm personally not going to listen to someone who is holding a phone in one hand while holding food in the other trying to talk about politics. I'm not going to take you serious at all. And the best part is he films himself eating and talking with his mouth full. Nah homie. But yeah also agree with not disrupting an average person's day with the protest. I'm all for protesting for the right reasons. But if you're trying to disrupt someone's day go to the politician's house who are supporting the wrong side and stand in their streets. Fuck up their day.
The brain rot will only get worse. They will start saying that going to work is actively supporting genocide and that you shouldn't go to work out of protest.
By this guy's logic he is gonna to delete anyone with a job to reduce government tax income.
He said any disruption to the economy helps disrupt the supply of tax money to Israel. It wouldn't end it unless a massive general strike took place, but not being able to achieve projected profit for the day ( and paying the taxes on those transactions) affects the ability of the US government to fund Israel's side In Palestine. One minimum wage worker not getting to work wouldn't mean jack shit, but 30k,300k,3kk or more of them would definitely send a message and start making an issue. This approach doesnt consider the situation of the estranged worker in the scenario, but I guess overall, if the goal is accomplished, less tax money will be leaving the US and potentially be used internally rather than externally ( unlikely, but...it's there I guess) General strikes/protests work. But you need to reach critical mass. And typically, most people are unable to achieve/organize it.
By that logic, they’d be better off stopping CEOs and high earners. In WoW terms, they’re basically farming lesser healing potions for this mythic raid which is retarded.
Unless those 30k people got tired of your shit, and start to run you over.
Lefty brain rot. These people don't live in the real world.
WHAT you're disrupting matters. Disrupting the every day life of innocent civilians ain't it.
This guy thought he cooked but now I just hate protestors even more
Right? He really thought he had something with the Boston Tea Party bit. His analogy would work if the product being destroyed had anything to do with the country involved. He has TikTok brain rot.
This is why I kinda hope they keep this up. More and more regular people are gonna see it and decide to vote for the opposite of whatever it is they’re protesting. Just because they’re an inconvenience.
already happened in my country. Not the biggest of fan of the guy people voted for instead, but the switch to the right was a political landslide that started the second people started protesting in assholish ways
It's going to send voters to politicians like Trump that denounce unemployed behavior like sitting in front of traffic.
That was always my train of thought, I feel like it doesn't really calculate the amount of opposing people it creates. If your message just makes the average person angry it really doesn't help anyone. I do wonder though if it's the times we live in too.
>This guy thought he cooked but now I just hate ~~protestors~~ palestine even more
Won’t change anything or have any impact in the world
So my personal finances have to be hurt to support people who hate me. Someone shut this gasbag up
If only all these twitter goblins with "They/Them" "ACAB" and "BLM" on their bio learnt what palestinians do with LGTB people...
This guy is a friggin idiot and his Boston Tea Party analogy makes no sense whatsoever. Its really infuriating how ignorant and smug this guy is. The Boston Tea Party were the Sons of Liberty blocking British ships from unloading their British tea into the American colonies, the most critical thing they did was literally entering British ships and throwing British tea into the harbor. No Americans were harmed by this action. Infact the Sons of Liberty tried to aid Americans because "no taxation without representation", as the saying goes. Imagine if the Sons of Liberty did what the Pro-Palestine group does... They go to fields where American settlers work, and they just sit the field, preventing harvest/working in the field.... Or they just block roads so that horses and carriages carrying goods can\`t travel to a town/village/city. Ahh yes they totally showed the British Royal Parliament raising taxes on the American Colonies by preventing American-settlers from working......................................... I am totally sure Britain will think twice know about raising those taxes by exporting tea to America..................... The Sons of Liberty protested something that directly affects Americans and did it in a way that doesn\`t harm Americans, while only harming the very thing they are protesting ( i.e. the Tea Act where the British Parliament raises taxes on exporting tea to the American colonies ).... The Pro Palestinians protest something that doesn\`t impact them, as they protest for a third-party across the Ocean ( that can be noble and morally righteous, don\`t get me wrong ), but they do this in a way that only harms the working Americans, doesn\`t have any impact on the American government which could do something, and it doesn\`t have any impact on Israel which is the country they condemn for allegedly doing XXX..... Its so atrocious to defend this. The only way where I would understand with protestors blocking roads, would be if the protestors were either anti-car, anti-road, anti-money or anti-work. In that case the protest is directly related to the method of how they protest, which is what all protests should be.... You want to protest financial bankers ? Go to wallstreet. You want to protest the government ? Protest infront of Congress. You want to protest foreign countries raising taxes on you while they export tea to you ? Go to the border/harbor where the tea is being imported...... It really shouldn\`t be that weird or difficult to do....... Don´t harm people completely unrelated to the thing you are protesting, especially not people who can\`t afford it...........
he's dumb AF.... if they are gonna protest to to Washington DC or the freaking Congress or better protest on the Army bases.... not protest on the road. your just fueling the people to hate the protest more.
Anyone can mental gymnastics their way into defending literally any behavior or action. Doesn’t matter if it’s murdering someone or illegally blocking public roads.
this fucking idiot hasn't got a clue though. bro gotta buy himself a cookbook.
he can't, buying one would be taxed and make the government money!
If the purpose of protests is to alienate anyone who didn't start off supporting your cause, and instead make them hate your cause and possibly help the other side out of sheer spite... mission accomplished I guess.
"Protests are supposed to be disruptive". Which is why I'm supposed to hate protestors.
Guy is a retard. Asmon has already covered everything he brought up just like everyone else. There’s no debate about it, being a disruptive protest is illegal. Stay out the roads.
I... dont get it... Disrupting timmy who works at wendys helps Palestine how? I hope these people realize if you keep fucking with people they will have a breaking point and will fuck back, if you poke the bear once and nothing happens and you KEEP poking the bear the bear will EVENTUALLY get annoyed and attack, Sure they wanna protest palestine ya w.e DO IT BY NOT SUPPORTING THESE COMPANIES, stop buying starbucks if enough people do they will do w.e you want once enough money is loss. But alas these people dont even have enough money to buy that expensive ass starbucks cause they dont work clearly since they sit in the middle of the road all day blocking the people who has a job from making money.
They think that when Timmy won't be able to go to work the whole Wendy's will have to close thus not making money thus not paying taxes and thus US government won't have money to fund war. In reality, if Timmy won't get to Wendy's his work will be done by the other people there, or he will be fired and other Joe will be hired...
His WoW example makes perfect sense for WoW but this is the real world where people need to pay rent soooo. Get out of the roads.
It might be one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. Not only it doesn't make sense to compare the morality of irl actions to actions in a pvp game, you can literally choose to play pve instead to bypass those types of actions from other players.
The wow explanation was more unhinged than the irl one
Doghsit take.
Also isnt most of these shops owned by private people who just bought rights to the brand and are paying royalties. So basicly biggest losses go to workers and business owners. But the actual brand company doesnt suffer that much as their majorty income is from selling the rights and sending the products.
This is true at least in part, I know a lot of guys who argue stealing from a Walmart is a "victimless crime" but the corporation doesn't take the hit. Those thefts and "accidents" come out of bonuses and end up in cut hours for the employees. All that stuff stays store level and they have to hit that line come the end of the fiscal year.
Problem is, in his analogy, the only people being disrupted are the one directly involved on the other side. They're not random people, it's targeted interruption. So go interrupt something that actually targets the people responsible
This guy is a complete dipshit, he talks about how these protestors are "disrupting the economy", when in reality the economy isn't going to move an inch because of this and the only change this will have is normal people trying to live their lives being disrupted as collateral damage from the protest.
Nah. Disrupting the day to day of the general public is just going to get people to hate you and be unsympathetic to your cause. Get off the road.
See I think he's right about one thing, protests should be disruptive. However in this case he's confusing disruption with obstruction. You cant literally obstruct people from going about their lives and doing so certainly doesn't help the cause
Talking about how your protest is analogous to wow while eating a mustard & mayonnaise sandwich is wilddd.
His Boston tea party analogy doesn’t make sense, the disruption went clear to the source when they attacked the ships at the harbor. They didn’t think to go to peoples houses and then destroy the tea because they’d be disrupting the very people you’d want on your side.
well minimum wage workers can't do shit about the problem you're protesting. protest in front of congress. they approve the budget, not people who work for private firms.
This motherfucker doesn't even know the struggle of minimum wage earner
These people are so dumb, the point of a protest is to be disruptive to THE PEOPLE YOU'RE PROTESTING AGAINST!!. Not your average Joe just trying to get to work. When you disrupt your average Joe, they not only start to view you in a more negative light but also the cause you are pretending to care about, because you're now negatively impacting their lives. You moronic protesters THINK the average Joe blames the cause your "Protesting" against but they don't....they blame the protesters...and rightfully so.
This guy just makes protestors seem like classist assholes tbh
So don't pay taxes, got it.
1. Genocide is a very trendy word right now for these brainwashed morons, but that's not whats happening in Israel, 2 sides are fighting and people die, that's called a "war". 2. The US isn't "funding" a genocide, they're helping an ally. 3. The US isn't just throwing money at Israel, they're providing military aid which is made by American hands and provides work for tens of thousands of Americans. On the contrary, Qatar and Iran are funneling money into Hamas which is specifically funding terrorism. 4. All those riots are doing an amazing job at strengthening and validating Hamas who'll gladly see America burn and who's still holding hostages (including Americans). 5. Fuck all these clowns.
one of these days they're gonna mess with the wrong driver having a very bad day. all I want is for it to be captured on video so I can watch it and simply say: "yup"
Remember the Hong Kong protest? (Pre-violent era) despite the number of people protesting, we still make way for cars, buses and ambulances. We stayed on one side of the road and only taking one lane. We make sure it is peaceful and as non disruptive as possible. Until the violent ones take over that’s where I draw the line. Reddit please I’m in compliant of national security law
What a moron
Point 2. Protesting about your taxes dollars going to the side you don't like, how does that translate to disrupting people from going to start bucks, how does stopping traffic, emergency services in anyway relate to your tax dollars doing to the side you don't like. Dude kept such an open mind it fell put and he hasn't been able to find it since. I agree with the commenter who said take it to DC/Washington or whatever, get the fuck out of the street.
What kind of minimum age worker can afford a car?
This is such a dumb take all they doing is making normal people hate them. I see the same problem over and over with these protests instead of protesting outside congress or their local government and making the politicians and lobbyists who make these decisions lives difficult, they instead make you who can do nothing about it life difficult. The politicians don't give a F if it doesn't affect them personally. But jello brains like this guy are coming out more and more with their hot takes to get virtue signal points. Im glad tiktok might be banned, not because of censorship but because they purposely promote crap like this to make the youth think it is the popular opinion.
So, donate to isreal ? End war faster = no more protests inconveniencing the minimum wage worker who just wants to get to work so they can afford a meal and a roof?
What a dunce
Dude just disapprove his own point by trying to make a parallel with wow lol, palestanians protesters in the USA is the most silly and dumb shit can ever exist, literally stupid people
This mindset force you to use paper straw while Taylor Swift is flying above their road block. Hypocrisy. Go protest bigger companies or celebs. They earn more and tax more than 50 low wage workers on their way to work.
Just in case it wasn’t clear to everyone he’s saying that any purchase made and money earned in the US is contributing to genociding Palestinians. The goal of blocking the minimum wage worker is to essentially prevent that person from living in the US. If they could kill the minimum wage worker without consequence they would because that would be the easiest and most effective way at preventing their earned income and consumption from supposedly going to Israel. They couldn’t care less about that minimum wage worker is what they’re saying.
Social media was a mistake
His WOW analogy was really bad, completely false equivalence and it didn't even make sense
I may not know what you are protesting about. But if you fuck up my day and jeopardize my job, immediately I do not want to support your cause.
I couldn’t hear anything he was saying bc he just kept waiving a pop tart in my face
With crumbs in his beard
This guy is stupid. So he actually wants people to lose their jobs to destroy the economy? Newsflash, lots of people are jobless. Lots of people are starving. We're still going to send money to Israel. We could have half the American population on the streets half-dead, and Congress would still be sending money to Israel. This strategy just doesn't work. They could collapse the entire American economy before having any measurable impact on war donations.
Most of them can't even locate Gaza on a map, they didn't even knew it existed a year ago.
Protests are supposed to be peaceful, boycotts can be destructive to a companies profits, and blocking the road is just straight up illegal. By blocking the road you are asserting you have the power to restrict/prevent a citizens right to travel. When you take people rights away they will target you before they care about your cause.
Protests are supposed to be disruptive... to the people who can actually make a difference, not some random dude trying to get to work at a 9-5. Why would you not protest at your state or federal office? Did this guy think he was making a good argument?
And so the criminal justifies it's action. As always. These protests harming people who have no power in changing what the protests should change. But it's easy for you to feel morally superior without harming yourself.
I do understand what he's trying to say but it's still too naive. Yes, while the US has a huge portion of tax revenues from Individual Income Taxes (https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/americas-finance-guide/government-revenue/), doing it for any duration lesser than a couple of years, and only in specific locations, will do jack shit and will be barely a dint to the tax revenue for the government. And honestly this will also only work on a government that is populist and cares much of what the general populace says. Meanwhile them doing this will like many others mention, just alienates them and their cause from the masses.
You lost him when you made the alliance the winners. You should have said horde was briefing the alliance
The problem with people like this is their whole premise of "Protests are supposed to be disruptive" is wrong, and myopic. The objective of protests is to \*influence people\* to change their minds. Sometimes, yes, this does entail disruption. Disruption is the means, not the end in itself. It all depends on who you are trying to influence and how you go about it. If you go about it the wrong way, and just piss off the people who were supposed to influence, you're hurting your cause. It's the same simplistic thinking along the lines of, "just do something, anything", or "even if it saves just one life, it's worth it". Wrong. These tag lines sound nice, but the world is complex and unintended consequences is a real thing.
Tax dollars is funding nothing in the US, the government takes loans. In this case he acts like as if the alliance members prevent the hord from getting bruised weed, but the hord players are complaining because griefing is fucking stupid when you can buy bruised weed from any regular NPC vendor.
As if tax dollars generated in the economy has anything to do with how much congress spends anymore. We could have 0 tax revenue and Congress would still find a way to send billions overseas. I'm not too sure disruptive protest curry much positive public favor anyways. It would be better to "march on Washington" or to directly lobby politicians instead.
So following his logic, to be REALLY disruptive, instead of throwing tea into water, they had to beat children slaving in factories to the point they couldn't work instead... Jesus, these people actually can vote...
american tiktokers care about tax dollars going for genociding palestinian folks but not russian folks. it just means they are willing to support aggressors in one case and not another. peperidge farm remembers when folks used to vote for their best representative from their districts regardless which party they were from, like how democracy is supposed to run.
The 2 acts are so fucking different I've written this post like 8 times trying to come up with a succinct way to say it. The Boston tea party was arguably stupid as shit and misdirected as well. But yknow what the "sons of liberty" did shortly after? Fucking raised an army and prosecuted their greivances. These people are free to join hamas to "stop the genocide"
The disruption is mismatched. The individual people you're blocking in the road can literally have their lives ruined by you blocking them, whereas you blocking the road isn't even a blip on the chart for Israel vs. Palestine. How much economic damage, realistically, are these road morons even causing collectively? Six figures? Seven figures? Low eight figures? Yeah I'm sure that's going to cause a lot of grief for the Federal Government when they're giving away twelve figures to other countries every year like it's chump change lmao. My personal stance on Israel vs. Palestine is fuck em' both. We should completely stop funding or supporting either of them in any way.
He is making good points but used stupid arguments. Yes protests are supposed to be disruptive and attract attention, but there is no end game. There’s nothing to gain without having a clear goal. Besides, most people don’t care what they’re protesting about because it has zero impact on them or they’re simply not informed. You can’t make them understand the issue at hand by protesting alone. You need to have a clear plan and program on educating people about it. Also you don’t even go ahead with any of that before exhausting all of your legal options. Protesting is your last option when everything else fails. Going backwards isn’t going to give you any results and you’re just making a fool of yourself. Half of the people protesting have no idea what they’re protesting about, and half of those who do, have no idea what the goal is.
What a dumbass
Any person who points at shit on a video I hate with every fiber of my being.
Not only is the boston tea party a complete diferent situation it didn't stop people from getting to work on time on all the other business at the time. Blocking a road stops everyone from getting to work.
I switched off just before WOW and then went DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. This dudes a white noise generator and not the kind some can sleep to willingly.
I once missed my granma's funeral because of a protest like this. Fuck those people
Yes! I blocked hundreds of people on the road! They will surely join our cause now!
I understand the reasoning behind it, but it’s the lowest form. There’s better, way more effective, less lazy ways. If you’re fucking me to fuck someone else to stop fucking someone else, it’s a hot mess. Just fuck the person directly. You’re never going to get me to join you by fucking me
True protesters and activists would be going against corporate instead of the innocent working class and obstructing streets or potential emergency rescue services. Not to forget some of those "climate activists" were actors paid by Blackrock, probably the ones who put the idea of gluing hands onto the pavement into gullible fools.
Did this guy compare the Boston Tea Party to traffic protesters? LMFAOOOO
Why are they always so smug? There’s something just so repulsive about the way these types wave their finger at you and demand you kneel to their worldview. They are all the same.
This much mental gymnastics should be an Olympic sport
I lost brain cells listening to this guy
I was scrolling down looking at his replies. He replied to a commentator who was stressing that people will lose their jobs if they can't get to work. He then replies, "that's the problem of capitalism requiring people to work-". what unhinged piece of shit.
What an entitled and priviledged imbecile... for him it's all like a game becausw HE ain't at the receiving end - hence why he can easily compare this to a game. He should pray to never need an ambulance for himself, a friend or a family member while some 'alliance players' are 'griefing' the road the ambulance needs to take to get to him. Hypocrite.
This is what happens if you try to excuse inexcusable behaviour.
People sitting in the road doesn't disrupt the state it only disrupts civilians. These people are being stupid and should instead go to congress or write a letter to their senator.
The Boston tea party disrupted the tea market in America. It happened because England was exorbitantly taxing tea. It's a direct protest to direct problems These pro Palestine morons are taking one side, making their thinking rigid, and won't stop to examine the 60 years of history between both countries. Is Israel in the wrong, yeah they should stop aiming at hospitals and humanitarian efforts. But Israel was attacked and is still being shot at by missiles. Iron Dome is putting in work. They really are taking it like America took 9-11. It's the middle east, there's blood on everyone's hands. I don't see how disrupting sales tax would help gaza but ok boomer
The minimum wage dude's manager doesn't care WHY you're late. Only that you're late.
 “Uhm achshually, it’s okay to be a disruptive asshole and create a nuisance for people who cannot meet my demands and play no direct role in the thing I’m opposed to, because something something something” 🤡
This is the primary example of what I think of when I think "this person has more beard than brains."
He thought he cooked 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I stopped halfway through but the main two takes he shared in that time were dumb as shit. A false equivalency and a confused, reductive view of how funding works.
So the logic is if I do anything disruptive to the economy and say it’s because I’m protesting X I am therefore doing the protesting thing right?
Does this guy really believe these protest are doing any amount of significant economic damage that matters? Does effectiveness matter at all? Are you in the wrong if you do something completely ineffective that hurts a bunch of people along the way? These kind of ends justify the means people are the exact kind of people you don’t want making change in society.
Another "useful idiot" 🤦🏻
Better to do the protest at government buildings that make the big choices. Just blocking people on the road just does net you 1) -$ to big bad movement but also 2) Bad faith from Joe trying to not make his boss mad. Though I do get how much harder it probably would be to protest the guys who actually make the big decisions because they would likely have better security to deal with them. Still would probably get more eyes on it though.
Oh man I can't wait for the one hour video response from Asmon so I can listen to it while I work tomorrow.
Stands in road all month and 6 days ago Bidens government sent Israel 26 billion dollars. Their protesting is doing nothing. They can keep fake caring and blocking roads all day and it won't stop Israel from taking out hamas. Brain broken liberals really do have main character syndrome.
So stopping emergency vehicles,making people late and possibly fired from jobs or to get kids waiting to be picked up,making people late from getting to hospitals for kids being born and on and on is ok because its supposed to be disruptive. Even though these disruptive actions do less than zero to help the cause they claim to be fighting for and only make people less likley to supoort the cause. There are many ways to have disruptive protests like at congress peoples offices who actually right laws that dont make eceryday strugling peoples lives worse
So guy basically says, let's hurt little guys, so bigger guys will care 
Yeah let's just sacrifice a portion of people's paycheck, surely they don't need it right?
This is some insanely bad logic. They only achieve their aims if they get more people to support them. This activity actively gets people to hate them and by proxy the thing they're supporting. What this guy is describing is that he believes you get the government to do what you want is by bullying working people. \\ Does he really think people are just gonna keep taking this shit. Eventually people are gonna be calling for these people to get fucked up by the police and cheering when they see it on TV. I feel like job #1 of a protester is being able to understand public sentiment and these people just have no fucking clue. I get why people think they're just all mentally unwell because this is peak retard shit.
With his logic someone could just go and kill the boss irl and the war would end
He's a physician.
People really try to make this deeper then it really is
I thought the ppl blocking the roads are climate protestors. Why is it Palestine all of a sudden?
If a protest is disruptive and it spreads the desired message creating more like-minded individuals than enemies, it is a successful protest. Protests for an issue as big the israel-palestine one will never have immediate effects. The only way for protestors to get their desired results, is to convince the general populace that they are in the right and to vote with those ideals in mind. That being said, a disruptive protest will always have new people agreeing and acting on the message being spread, and new people disagreeing and acting on that same message, be it because they disagree, or because they hate the act of protesting. At the end of the day, I can't tell which side is getting more followers. But if it is the protestors, than protests are what they should do. And if it is not the protestors, than they need to device new ways to get people to follow their message.
"the more we piss people off the more they will take us seriously" ???
The half eaten sandwich was distracting.
Being from Tik tok says it all.
So, based on this logic, if you buy anything, you're in the wrong. Do you think that this guy is gonna quit his job and never buy anything ever again? Is he gonna force his family to also? No? HMMM
Yeah but the difference is after so much "Give a shit about the thing." I've become such a jaded fuck that I take joy in the protestors misery far more than giving a flying fuck about their cause.
Eh. Sorry but punishing the common folk who are already struggling does not equate much to big, chunky companies or their cash flow. It's just being a troll.
Americans don't know how to protest efficiently it's hilarious.
Why give idiots like this more exposure
Why would you stop at blocking traffic? Start throwing some shit like bricks, prepare some molotov coctails, burn the cities on fire, destroy the ambulances, shot some fires around. It is supposed to be destructive right??? I meaaaan more you destroy more Palestinians are supported! Look at terrorists and see how they support their causes when they blow people up!!!! Yes. This is exactly how terrorists justify their actions.
Blocking the road as a form of protest actually does the opposite as you alienate the people who have zero say in policy reform. Now all those whose time got wasted instead of being on your side will have negative feelings about your protest. And if their vote could have helped your cause, the likelyhood they will vote against it out of spite is high. And his analogy with Wow is trash.
WOW is just a game. Who cares? What is this logic?
When’s this tiktok ban thing supposed to happen
>Protests are meant to be disruptive Yeah you should disrupt shipments of weapons from usa to israel. Oh, not as easy? Dangerous? Disruptive to you being alive? Well, off you go to be disruptive!
This man is unhinged and has no logic in his response
This guy is pro fucking over min wage workers makes me want to pay taxes.
I fail to see why the common person have to suffer, go protest against the millionaires or elected officials to create impact.
Protests are supposed to be disrupted? Providing us with an explanation about bruiseweed and potions to kill X boss quicker, i do not think this man played (much if) any wow, he could have just pointed to the **Ungoro Crater Mafia.** Now, depending on ones own point of view, he could be making a point, however the problem with blocking roads does not only result in allegedly less taxes being paid, the following; The person who filled up their tank of gas, still needs to drive X miles to get to the blockade, only to be told to turn around and try again another day. Gas is still being used. Problem however is that the person now has a likelihood to get fired from his or her job, especially if it is a business like amazon they work for. Which results in less income, and as jobs aren't easy to come by nowadays, hungry children. So you may think you have saved 1 dollar of taxes going to fund the war over there, you are ruining the live of an fellow citizen and their family. You are not merely disrupting the economy with those kind of actions, you are actually putting the heads of YOUR FELLOW COUNTRY CITIZENS, on the chopping block with this, you hypocrite. But who cares about their fellow citizen if they can virtue signal to people they never spoke to, and will never see by doing things that will NOT change anything. You know what will help, buying a ticket and going to palestinia and be part of the relief effort, if you want to make an impact for the people over there, you will. You may think that the disruption of the economy is going to stop "war" being send, it will not, what more likely will happen is that your social justice funds will dry up 100 years before the US gov will stop sending weapons "to their allies" to that side of the world. Also, i am not sure how the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston\_Tea\_Party](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party) has anything to do with this, because they fought for something 1. happening on their own soil 2. against a form of economic discrimination within their own economy. Then again, i am not familiar with the boston tea party, so correct me if i am wrong. (P.s. i may be missing a lot of context, my response is based on this mans explanation + knowing how the extinction rebellion blocks roads, the only difference is that the reason is not "climate", the OP's protest is against tax dollars being send to palestinia.)
Protesting is essential for meaningful change. Slavery wasn't just ended on a whim for no reason. Women's rights aren't where they are now without disruptive protests. The hundreds of thousands of movements which have worked toward positive change have been thanks to protesting. There will never be any change if everyone simply stays silent, the Israeli government have got away with open and continuous war crimes for decades now and have only got away with it because everyone has been silent on it. Now people are finally waking up.
if you want to protest a conflict, you march and protest typically in front of either the congress building or in front of the white house. Since you know this is an issue the federal government deals with. There are ways to protest properly that do actually work.
We're talking about individuals not getting to work and not getting paid. It would be better if they were paid per hour on the road but that's not the case for most people. They are hurting regular workers directly
What an idiot. How about protesting in front of government offices?
Airport protests made me almost miss my 6 month planned work flight and almost lose my job in a shitty job market where there are only part time jobs. My opinion went from “poor Palestine” to “fk Palestine” real quickly.
Lmao! So people screaming things in the street and blocking traffic is on par with the Boston tea party? Ok sure buddy…🙄
Stopping American tax dollar flow isn't going to do shit unless you plan on blocking every road in the US for the entire fiscal year. This isn't some game of inches where Israel gets one firearm less in an aid package and that somehow stops them. And the government can just go into debt with the country they are sending aid to. They don't actually need our taxes for that lmao.
He (the tiktoker) misunderstands the difference between federal and state/local taxes. State and local taxes do not fund the federal government.
Protests are supposed to be disruptive... to the government.
Bro said all of that to prove nothing. Blocking roads will never end up resulting in a net positive for whatever the current issue is, no matter how hard these people try to make that the case.
Tossing the tea into the harbor was a statement. Blocking a guy from getting to his help desk Job is being an asshole.
You want to help; please go fight in the Middle East and stop disturbing people who aren’t involved. Please do something better with your time.
The American colonialist in Boston threw the British East Indian Company’s tea imported from China without paying taxes in the Harbour. French workers sympathizing didn’t throw French wine in the harbor in Calais in France and Spaniard didn’t throw oranges grown by Spanish farmers in the Harbour in Arricefe. Go be disruptive in Jerusalem or Tel Aviv. Head over to Gaza and protest the IDF there. Otherwise, you’re just being a nuisance to people and you really have no skin in the game.
People need to learn how to make a point and tell a story... I'm only 5 second in and it feels like hours. Edit - I just finished the whole thing and still don't know what he said. What year is it? Edit2 - Kevin spacey voice and story's that go no where. And listening takes years off your life.
"Our tax dollars" College kids don't pay shit in taxes
Did he really just compare destroying products in the 1700s to blocking ambulances in the street…
Stfu dude, just stay out the fkn road because the people driving on it don't care about what ever is being protested. Only because you're blocking our way.
Never heard a bigger reach in my entire life.
The example of the Boston Tea Party is stupid. They did that because the issue was DIRECTLY related to the tea itself and the taxes on said tea. There are other issues as well but that’s the main one.
Funnily enough, I can see Asmongold either just taking this appart point by point prooving him wrong, or just ignoring it, because it's THAT stupid. Either way, will enjoy if he makes a video about this...
I'm pretty sure if you tried to block someone from returning to their home during the time of the Boston tea party incident, you'd be the one needing an ambulance, ironically one would never come.
I bet this guy feels like he accomplished something in this video, all he accomplished was to get people to hate protestors even more. Our gov will do what it wants, they will get money regardless of protestors
Lol, they will always find the littlest of things to justify fucking up peoples lives. They will still send weapons using your taxes even if 4 starbucks had a bad Tuesday. Fucking lol.
Wow, this guys is fuckin stupid. This doesn’t do shit. How about they protest outside of congress instead?
So go burn down a corporations warehouse if you're gonna use the Boston tea party as an example ffs. All the road protests are accomplishing is getting the common man to oppose your cause
Except blocking someone from having a potion in a video game doesn't fuck with their life because it's just a game. Blocking the road from some minimum wage worker trying to get to work can cause them to lose their job, or lose hours to where they can't pay their bills and actively harms them just so you can protest. If you want to protest do it in front of your local courthouse, do it in front of the white house, do it in places where the people you disrupt are directly related to what you are upset with. In this case tax money funding wars. Blocking somebody from getting to their Mc-job means nothing to the people who actually make these decisions. They don't care you are protesting, the only people you affect have nothing to do with anything and no power to even help your cause if they wanted to.
The mental gymnastics of this dude. The public and busy workers who live pay check to pay check can't afford to protest or deal with being late to work with perhaps losing my job. Protest to those that can do something about it, is your state politicians and election sites.
Closing roads = Mothefuckers who don't give a shit about others and only thinks about themselves.
That’s not how protests work…
"Protests are supposed to be disruptive", sure but who you are disrupting matters.