It's almost like we're regressing and some people or group in power and influence have been putting efforts to dividing people further by shallow group identity like skin color/race. Make us squabble against each other here in the US and not focus on the bigger issues and culprits that are hurting and taking advantage of us all. No definitely not.
That's exactly what the culture wars are about, hate the invisible boogeyman and not the people actually fleecing you. It's propaganda 101, it's been around since the dawn of civilization and it's still effective.
Before I give my energy or emotion to anything I always ask myself, is this a real issues that effects my life? Is this an issue that actually exists in the real world and not just an internet thing? And then finally are my emotions being manipulated on purpose?
Occupy Wall Street had people saying things like "The 99% vs the 1%" and they all started shitting bricks and working to bring down the movement from the inside. They succeeded by bloating it with everyone else's common cause and because it was leaderless, there was no real way to eject them and bring the message back on track. It very quickly spiraled into a handful of activist causes backbiting each other in order to try and claim center stage for their issue. Add in mentally ill people and police allegedly releasing criminals and rapists into the camps and the whole thing came tumbling down.
And the rich - and even the US government - immediately went out and spent millions to have think tanks try and figure out how to prevent this from ever happening again.
With the answer, of course, being the classic divide and conquer. It seems that it was only after Occupy that the wedge issues over race, etc re-emerged and became so incredibly volatile in the media. I suspect that was the tip of the spear for where we are now.
The counter is as simple as their solution was: unity despite our differences. No on can help what skin they were born in or what their ancestors did and being forced to pay for the sins of our fathers, instead of building forward for our society, ourselves and our kids is exactly what got us here. We need to get back to planting trees that we'll never sit in the shade of and holding those who have taken from our, our kids and our grandkids' generations to account.
It's a lot of work and they'll definitely play dirty, but "the 99% vs the 1%" scared them like no other because they know it's true.
Thank you for that amazing response.
I think that's as close to the truth as we'll get and I love the idea that our best offense is to remember we are the people who are alive now and we actually make the decisions. We are not the people of before. I will always give an individual the benefit of a doubt.
Unfortunately, no one is able to agree on who “they” are. I have my belief but at the end of the day some might disagree with me, leaving us in the exact same place.
I've had the same thought recently. The classic if we're too busy fighting each other then we don't have time to pay attention to how big corpa or whoever is screwing us. It may not have even been intentional initially, but it definitely feels like that division can easily be taken advantage of and currently is. The way social media is and how news/misinformation spreads plays a big part in that and why it's so easily exploitable. The question is what is it going to take for the masses to stop fighting each other and realise who the bad guys are? We need more unity, I'm sick of the division. It's exhausting.
Divide and Conquer, if the peasants are too busy fighting each other, they will never question why the Lord does nothing. Zack said it best that in case of a revolution "the rich will pay one half of the poor to the kill the other half"
Yep. And the Roman philosophy of distracting people with entertainment is so incredibly relevant now too. People who are relatively comfortable and distracted with entertainment are very unlikely to revolt unless things are getting *really* bad. Like starving and out on the street. In Canada it has even gone that far and people are finally starting to take notice. Big protest organized for July 1st. Hope it sends a message...
So your post really was sarcastic? I had to watch it twice cause it just seemed like a healthy fandom to me. i do agree with you guys tho. All the fandom and random topic infighting makes it way too exhausting to even think about politics, much less get involved with it in a unified manner.
Yea, I guess I hesitate to declare that without any evidence right. That's why I say "may". It being a common tactic isn't enough to confirm anything in itself. Point is people are definitely taking advantage of it now regardless of the original intent
This. Even though I was born in the late 80’s I remember how easy going the world was throughout the 90’s. And when I tell Gen Z how all this race baiting is unusual and a complete 360 from what I grew up with, they just don’t understand and think I’m lying. But it’s all very intentional.
It has always been like this, those in power use conflict to have tighter grasp on society. However, thanks to the internet and social media, they can do it to a degree never seen before.
Increasing racial tensions in the US has long been a goal of the KGB. Same with increasing tension between men and women. There was that tiktok a while back where women were pouring bleach on men's crotches to stop them from "manspreading" and encouraging other American women to do the same?
Turned out the videos going viral were mostly filmed in Moscow. They wanted to make it seem like it was happening everywhere so American women would try to do it too.
Comment needs to be rated higher - a lot of geopolitical rivals help fund troll and bot farms.
Internal disfunction means less external action, which benefits rivals
I mean I’m gonna be honest here so I’ll prolly have a lot of dv, but being real the biggest issue that is dividing people is the fact that now there’s a need for a group of every single thing.
Let me explain, back on the day there was people that was racist, yes, of course they were, but the difference is, there wasn’t a movement of people categorizing every single person with the description of “this one is racist” even when they probably aren’t. What is trying to say is, let’s say *Pedro* was a White Male predator and racist mother fucker, there was not a group of people now saying that every person that looks like Pedro is a racist, there was only the fact that Pedro was a racist and a lot of people that now know his face will try to avoid him.
Look I’m not even white, I’m fucking brown as shit, but movements like BLM have done more harm than good. Not every cop is a prick, let alone every white cop, there is just bad and good cops, and it was never based on their colors. There’s even black people that is racist towards other black people just because “they are not black enough” like dude, doing movements for all of this harms in the long run because a movement wants to have a target and sadly enough, most of the times, the target is just another race.
Why would you get downvoted for a completely normal and sensible take? You're absolutely right in that everyone gets put into a group now. White guy does something bad? All white people to blame. Black guy does something bad? All black people to blame. We've stopped blaming individuals for being shitty and started blaming groups
Idk man, people on the internet goes crazy when they see stuff they don’t align with but I really appreciate the support and yes of course, that’s basically what people need to start doing, why hate the whole group when you can all bomb-hate the individual which makes the awful racism or action in question.
As I said, my skin color is closer to brown, but where I live I could easily be considered white, and it goes like, if I have something good these groups say I have white privileged benefits, if I hang out with black friends, for his other friends them I’m a lightskin wannabe, if I talk with gay people then I hate Christian’s but if I hang out with Christian friends I hate all gays? Like what is that nonsense.
Sometimes you just want to do whatever in the hopes that you meet some other people who also want to do whatever but that thing is every day something harder to achieve.
None of it makes sense man…
You nailed it all…
Luckily I still think these things are mostly terminally online/social media brain rot..
Luckily in real life people still have some sense… but damn is it getting worse and worse
>Not every cop is a prick, let alone every white cop
Sorry to pick on you specifically but I keep seeing people use this wrong lately. You have it backwards. It should be "not every white cop is a prick, let alone *every* cop."
The point is to say the more specific thing first to highlight your point. If not every white cop is a prick, then it's even more obvious that not every cop of every race is a prick.
People are fucking stupid and willing to jump on any hate bandwagon that comes up unfortunately that plays right into the hands of those who want to stay on top.
"Ok boomer" was the exact same thing and continues to be. Divide people by every intersection so we miss that our planet, our ecosystem and our future as a species is being raped so i handful of psychopaths can live just a little bit more comfortably
The whole thing makes me sick
Fun fact - the media started reporting much more on racism, sexism, trans issues, etc, after the Occupy Wallstreet movement.
Woulden't be surprised if it's just jangling the keys in front of the babies eyes.
Identity politics is the death of any society. Because there is no limit to what one can identify with.
One of the easiest examples to look at is the Dr Suess story of the star bellied sneetches and what happened when identity politics were introduced.
Pay attention to who wins in the end and make the parallel.
I think lots of people will agree with this statement and idea initially.
But when you start talking about “how” people are being divided, that’s when there’s resistance. People won’t accept that they are being manipulated. It’s always “the other side” that’s being manipulated and if only they would change their views. My views are totally the correct and moral views.
And recently we’ve decided to attack the people who can see the perspectives of both sides. The “enlightened centrist” who are really just on the other side.
BlackRock for example funds and encourages loads of dei
. Part of me wants to believe it's just someone trying to be good person, but another part of me thinks that it's just a way to stir up hate and infighting in the working classes so they can fly under the radar.
But They're not trying to encourage loads of DEI. They're trying to FORCE loads of DEI. The CEO even said it in an interview. So it is your second thought that's true!
The toxic and racist fans just started showing up when the cast stopped being 90% white. White folk thinking just because there were Black people back then that went to see SW that it means something. The Black people back then existed in a world where practically every movie made was a 90% white cast. They had to cope with no representation at all, they had no choice.
Meanwhile nowadays there are less white cast members and more diversity and white folks lose their god damn fuckin' minds. Weak ass bitches.
As a child of the 90s it’s so god dam obvious how much we have regressed on focusing on race. Swear it was all on its way out with the millennial generation then these dicks just put a new hyper focus on it and all that work went down the drain.
Which is crazy cuz Disney SW probably created more racist, sexist and toxic people than the prequels combined through making division between the fanbase.
Imagine creating hate towards white people, or making shit tier movies with no substance with (diversity) people or that making women empowerment a total joke, imagine this came from a company like Disney.
Bro no one cared about Jar Jar because of his race (which he didn’t had because the mother fucker was a frog like dude) they hated him for being a fucking bitch.
dude, TIL
this is as big a surprise as when I found out the VA for samurai jack was black.
I liked how things were then, a black guy voices an asian guy and nobody cares because he did a great job.
Phil Lamar. One of the coolest dudes on this planet. Did the arms dealer in MGS4 as well. Loved him in Static Shock, most of all in MAD TV as the UPS guy!
I wouldn't be surprised if we found out 10-20 years down the road that Disney's whole policy was the result of foreign money and influence to destabilize the country but disguised as good will.
I don’t even think it’s foreign money. One of the biggest pushers of DEI is Blackrock. Might be a little tin foil hatty but idk why Blackrock would be so concerned with diversity other than trying to create conflict to profit off of.
Its both foreign and inside.
Foreign wants to sow chaos and division to prove that democracy doesnt work and their authoritarian regimes are better
Inside.. its just incompetence... American politics is inherently divisive due to the nature of the two party system.. media wanting clickbait attention.. film makers/videogame creators wanting easy blackrock investment.. etc etc
Exactly.. ultrawokeism ends up pissing people off and making people more racist.
16 years ago gay marriage was illegal.. give the 250 mill conservatives time to catch up lol. You can’t just stifle and force a rosy reality on people with an iron hand or it will backfire and create more trumps.
Progress used to be measured by changing peoples opinions in a healthy way. A way that led to more freedom.
Analyzing every sentence or action someone does and having every movie carry the same political cocktail is not freedom.
And I’m a dem lol. Only ever voted that way.
I think people need to have some perspective and understand that the issues being talked about on the internet don’t necessarily reflect reality because most people don’t post their opinion on the internet at all. Like most people on Reddit are lurkers, they are completely silent. Same with people out in the world. These social issues that everyone tightens their panties over are pretty much exclusive to the very few people who actually post about it.
Its very disingenuous to place the creation of racism on Disney when there is an equal amount of people (probably greater) that consumed the content and did not become racist. Those values are not instilled in 200 minutes.
You have certainly tipped your hand.
lol Disney didn't create them. The only person responsible for a person being racist is that piece of shit themselves. 'That corporation made me racist!' get the fuck out of here lmao
Also to note, people of all backgrounds watching a great movie, no need to pander or tailor something for a group that doesnt need specifically servicing. Believe it or not, black people and gay people liked Star Wars too!
I grew up loving the original star wars trilogy decades after it released and im full hispanic. (Disney thinks that is impossible!)
Funny cuz you notice how the DEI/leftwing virtue signal fascists barely push hispanics into alot of things these days?.. they know we righteously YEETED their stupid "latinX" attempt to colonize our language and they've left us alone since, thank god XD.
I have a friend who is Mexican and a MEGA lefty. Like I am left and she takes it a step farther than me and she was like "Latinx is stupid and nobody will use it."
Believe it or not, white people liked Blade too!
A good story is not defined by the presence of all possible skin colors, genders or sexual preferences.
I don’t give a fuck about Star Wars never have. I have seen 1-6 got about an hour into 7 before I walked out of the theater.
It just hurts to see how all these people are so juiced and so excited and passionate and all of that is gone.
I don’t know what Disney could do to get this energy back.
Its amazing how toxic liberal leftist ideology has polluted the minds and convinced POC that they can't enjoy a movie if the main actor/actress isn't black/Asian or hispanic.
Latino main character? WHERE? All I ever see is black or white. Maybe a supporting character, but that's all.
Edit: People suggesting Latino actors in Star Wars, shows and characters that have been widely received well. Does that mean Latinos are the ones who can save Star Wars???
as cool as he was, I don't really consider him a main character. His character was underdeveloped and we know next to nothing about him.
Also, wasn't it reported that his character was actually suppose to die early before the story got rewritten?
How on earth have you not seen [Andor!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKOegEuCcfw) Diego Alexander literally has an accent and is the main character of the show! Not to mention it is loved by all critics and fans alike.
It's interesting that Latino men have consistently lead or been the best parts of Disney Star Wars that mocked, divisive, or cringe:
Rogue One
Andor
Madalorian Season 1 (and parts of 2)
Poe Dameron in Sequels -- somehow even when one of the dumbest lines in the Disney canon was said by Poe, no one actually blamed Poe, because he looked like he was saying it with the scriptwriter's gun held to his head.
I love that the whole point is showing there was nothing dividing people before like now except those in power, and here we have people like you still blaming everything on the left and definitely not just people in power trying to sow discontent among common people to make us all hate each other instead of them.
😂 yeah this crowd is so blind. Are there a lot of black people refusing to see a movie with white people? Or, recently, has it been more the opposite?
Oh, but what's different is that they're "Pandering to wokeness" now, where "woke" means "diverse cast and bad writing".
I watched running man with Arnold last night. The main characters are a Latina, a black dude and an Austrian. This movies from the 80s. Where's the toxic "white males" at then? Disney is a fucking cancer on art and culture.
Arnold also starred opposite a Latina in Total Recall, who was his ideal woman.
Latino and Hispanic people have really been underrepresented or even edged out in these DEI initiatives, despite being the largest minority group in the US. At least there was Coco and Encanto, but as far as Disney goes, their inclusivity has pretty much focused only on one ethnicity and gender.
There must be something also within the acting community where different people of background started to take on acting as a passion. Possibly in the last 30 years.
When this whole “woke” movement started, 2000s IMO, growing up I thought there were more diverse actors coming in. Back then it was true, but today, 2020s, i feel as though the diverse are shoehorned in with bad acting talents.
100% this. Human beings seek patterns in everything they see. Tell a person that everything is about race and, unsurprisingly, that is all they see. The irony that it is actually targeted racism towards white (and "white adjacent") people in the name of "making things better" is lost on these people. Or... or they just enjoy being racist bullies. Honestly I don't know at this point. This cult has definitely indoctrinated people in my close family and it sucks!
Padmes role was ahead of it's time, she stood for everything modern feminism was ment to be standing for. Everyone loved her and how Portman played her, everyone acknowledged and agreed with what she stood for without making a big fuzz about it.
New actors are arguing that C3PO is actualy a lesbian. I want to eat a sideways broom.
I mean most of the people arguing about it online now probably became fans with the 90s remaster/ big cinema re releases based on their ages. They were not watching the first run of each movie in cinemas.
I wasn't alive for RoJ so I can't speak to that, but I was for the prequels, and I remember the toxicity back then.
Most fans hated the prequels. Jake Lloyd got so much hate that he had a mental breakdown and his mom put him into rehab. Hayden took so much heat that he quit acting and moved to a farm in Texas. Lucas cited the fans' hatred towards the prequels as one of his reasons for selling Lucasfilm.
So let's not pretend that toxicity in the fandom doesn't exist.
You’re correct but, I’d push back on the internet aspect of your point. I’d say that people who would overuse/misuse those terms (racist, toxic/sexist etc) have gotten a louder and more emboldened voice due to the internet, especially modernly
Was this an opposite experience in USA for the prequels/sequels? As a European, I do no believe racism is a casual thing over there? Did you expect people to shit on each other at the movies or what lmao
A lot of people believe that something doesn't exist if it doesn't happen to them, or if it isn't blatantly obvious. If they can ignore/pretend something doesn't exist. They'll do that.
Also, I don't know why everyone (especially in this sub) need a reason as to say why something is shit other than bad writing/acting. Saying something is bad because it's woke, or it's trying to be inclusive (DEI) just undercuts their argument. Personally, anytime someone mentions woke or DEI, I just completely ignore them because I know they're an idiot.
I guess they want to pick a team to be on (woke vs anti-woke). Rather than just saying the writing is shit, or the acting is shit or something else. But, I guess woke culture hurts feelings and they want that known.
You can get this exact footage in the modern day at the premier of any “woke” movie too. I guarantee you everyone who waited in line to see barbie was not standing around angry at “wHiTe sTraiGhT mEN” like I imagine people here just assume. Nothing about this his has changed nowadays unless your brain is glued to sensational social media posts.
They aren't, they unanimously hate the shite Disney have been making since taking over, the only shows that do well are the ones everyone likes of which there are but a few.
You obviously read the first sentence and ignored the rest. The films people generally like do well, the ones they don't like do not. Their last film to break a billion $ was The Lion King in 2019 which was an ok film. Critics didn't like it, but the customers did. Most recent films have barely even broken even.
Technically what you said only was a single sentence. Movies in general have been hit or miss lately with even actually good films like Furiosa barely making a splash. The thing with Disney is that they are also multi media. I don't argue that a lot of what they've produced lately isn't great, but I also don't ignore the reality that if they were really doing that poorly they'd change direction.
Idk why this sub recommended as I’m not really into the whole identity politics culture war shit (even discussions about) but…
Was that bill nye at 1:03? Cuz that’s dope
What had me about this interview was them asking what the "biggest surprise" was to the filmgoers who had seen it. I guess spoilers weren't as taboo back then?
who cares? no one is attacking star wars as an especially racist or sexist franchise or fan base. like every franchise and fan base, it’s had its issues, but the way ppl are acting victimized in this thread is silly
disney is doing progressive casting bc disney wants to make money looking progressive, but the progressive casting isn’t the issue. if a poc/femme/gay/etc. character was well written and had a good story, no one would give a shit. ppl only give a shit bc the content is shit, which brings me to my second point:
disney is making shit action movies bc they’ve never been good at making action movies. they’re mostly a children’s entertainment company, and unfortunately, the bar is p low for what kind of children’s content can turn a profit. basically they’re making lazy content for adult children, which is what disney has been doing for a while now. nothing new to anyone who’s watched this marvel action comedy schlock take over the theaters
>disney is doing progressive casting bc disney wants to make money looking progressive, but the progressive casting isn’t the issue. if a poc/femme/gay/etc. character was well written and had a good story, no one would give a shit. ppl only give a shit bc the content is shit, which brings me to my second point:
When someone bitches about woke culture or DEI ruining movies, I kind of assume they're just racist asshats.
When someone says the latest disney movie was terrible because the acting and writing were shit, I kind of assume that disney just made a shit movie.
I might be wrong in my assumptions, I guess what I'm trying to say is...do like you just did. Bitch about the product, not the person making said product.
It’s kind of funny that people are pointing to a lighthearted news story about excited fans at RotJ as some proof that shit was so much better 40 years ago. You could get this same reaction at most midnight showings for franchises with huge fan bases. Or at a Taylor Swift concert. Excited die hands gonna be excited. I remember how jacked up people were after midnight showings of Episode 1. The next day we all were a bit less hyped and questioned how much we actually enjoyed it outside of one cool lightsaber fight.
And even if there was some jackass screaming the movie sucked at this screening in 83, the News probably would’ve cut that. Because that wasn’t the aim of the fluff piece. The big difference now is social media amplifying lots of negativity. But it did exist in 83 too. Plenty of people hated the Ewoks, for example.
It’s so fucking sad seeing all these people just be excited to watch the movie when nowadays all Star Wars seemingly does is just find itself in the center of internet culture war horseshit.
Whether it’s Star Wars just not treating its current black characters well or terminally online degenerates in places like the critical drinker subreddit talking about how Star Wars is catered to and only for “white men,” just sucks that Star Wars has a more negative connotation when folk talk about it.
This proofs we were more united and had no issues with skin color to gender when everyone was just there to see Luke and Darth Vader. Then, someone who's not happy about this ruined everything and attacked anyone who disagrees
It felt like we were making progress on race relations and then social media hit and it became acceptable to discriminate against and hate anyone with “privilege.” Now we have millionaire black girls making music videos about how oppressed they are.
Advice is a form of nostalgia,
dispensing it is a way of fishing the past
From the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts
And recycling it for more than it's worth
But trust me on the sunscreen
I saw Last Jedi on opening night Thursday so I wouldn’t get any spoilers and no show times were before me. I walked out disappointed. Look how happy everyone is here !
I know this is hyperbole on my part, but this little clip right here is the true legacy of Star Wars: fans coming together, psyched as hell, having a great time. You can just feel the love shared between all these people, total strangers to each other, yet Star Wars unites them. I think we can get back here someday, but we need to stop fighting with each other, and direct the fury where it belongs: at the "creatives" behind a lot of the current content.
Here's the truth of the matter: the fanbase fighting amongst itself is exactly what Disney wants. They want us distracted so they can keep doing whatever they want with no real consequences. The diversity of their cast does not matter. What matters is how well the content is written and portrayed. You make the cast of The Acolyte solely straight white people, and I promise you, the show would still be as utterly soulless as it is now. You make Rey a man, and he would still be a poorly written character. The actors are there to do a job, and they have to work with what they're handed. We need to stop blaming diversity quotas, and start consistently blaming the unseriousness and complete lack of creative integrity of the people at the top.
I can spot them... ...It's every damn one of them. All there to see a movie where Leia DIDN'T scissor Chewbacca's black-coded sister; where's the representation?
George Lucas's Star Wars is the ONLY Star Wars that can bring people together. Disney star wars is a weak imitation. That is why star wars is now dead!
Look at how bright-eyed and innocent everyone was.
Before social media brain rot and culture wars turned everyone into overly-dogmatic, hostile dickwads.
Yeah but this video is from 1983, not 2024, or anything from the last 30 years. Is there a point you're trying to make when we exist in different political, economical, and societal environments?
The difference now? YouTube grifters. They've made a cottage industry out of outrage. Grown men and women arguing that society is ending because Disney is trying too hard to be inclusive. I'm sure all these grifters are Christian. It's part of the grift. I'm pretty sure this is exactly the opposite of what Jesus would do.
It’s almost as if using Star Wars to inject leftist propaganda down everyone’s throats doesn’t sit well with people. These diversity actors that are casted are not good by any means, doesn’t help that their characters are poorly written, but still. Believe it or not, people just want entertainment, they don’t care ab race.
The problem in film has never been having a diversity agenda. I'm sure that not every buddy-cop movie in the 80s was some purely organic coincidence of race. But the difference is that those films were not spiteful, and race was rarely the subject. They assumed that the average movie-goer was a good person. Every character was a character, complete with positive and negative human traits.
Modern films are constantly filled with hate. The people who make them believe that every character represents their groups, and so they don't treat them like people. Can't have flaws because it means the group has flaws. Everything in a movie is a 4d chess mindgame about making sure that the poor stupid audience learns the right things from every exchange.
I'm a bit too young to remember, but my dad often told me how big the StarWars movie was. Everyone was so happy and excited to go the theater, the past often look and sound better even tho it's not necessarily true.
Everything wasn't a "political" agenda back then, people could enjoy things without wondering about shit being woke or not. We really capitalized on political shit nowadays, next thing we are selling in the next decades is air, mark my words.
No I did’t - I saw people having fun at one of the best movies ever -
The universe is big - I assume their galaxy can be as diverse as our little old planet-
That's because in these times, politicians love to use identity plotics to separate us and turn us against each other. The sad part is that a good majority of us are cult members following one side or the other when both sides are just using us for their own political gain.
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It's almost like we're regressing and some people or group in power and influence have been putting efforts to dividing people further by shallow group identity like skin color/race. Make us squabble against each other here in the US and not focus on the bigger issues and culprits that are hurting and taking advantage of us all. No definitely not.
They want us fighting everyone but them, and you know what's sad is it seems to work quite well.
That's exactly what the culture wars are about, hate the invisible boogeyman and not the people actually fleecing you. It's propaganda 101, it's been around since the dawn of civilization and it's still effective.
Yep, this. Meanwhile society has been robbed blind - especially post-Covid. A lot easier to stage a robbery during a ~decade long riot.
One of the oldest union busting techniques in the book.
Yeah but this sub actively engages in this culture wars all the time
Before I give my energy or emotion to anything I always ask myself, is this a real issues that effects my life? Is this an issue that actually exists in the real world and not just an internet thing? And then finally are my emotions being manipulated on purpose?
Occupy Wall Street had people saying things like "The 99% vs the 1%" and they all started shitting bricks and working to bring down the movement from the inside. They succeeded by bloating it with everyone else's common cause and because it was leaderless, there was no real way to eject them and bring the message back on track. It very quickly spiraled into a handful of activist causes backbiting each other in order to try and claim center stage for their issue. Add in mentally ill people and police allegedly releasing criminals and rapists into the camps and the whole thing came tumbling down. And the rich - and even the US government - immediately went out and spent millions to have think tanks try and figure out how to prevent this from ever happening again. With the answer, of course, being the classic divide and conquer. It seems that it was only after Occupy that the wedge issues over race, etc re-emerged and became so incredibly volatile in the media. I suspect that was the tip of the spear for where we are now. The counter is as simple as their solution was: unity despite our differences. No on can help what skin they were born in or what their ancestors did and being forced to pay for the sins of our fathers, instead of building forward for our society, ourselves and our kids is exactly what got us here. We need to get back to planting trees that we'll never sit in the shade of and holding those who have taken from our, our kids and our grandkids' generations to account. It's a lot of work and they'll definitely play dirty, but "the 99% vs the 1%" scared them like no other because they know it's true.
Thank you for that amazing response. I think that's as close to the truth as we'll get and I love the idea that our best offense is to remember we are the people who are alive now and we actually make the decisions. We are not the people of before. I will always give an individual the benefit of a doubt.
Unfortunately, no one is able to agree on who “they” are. I have my belief but at the end of the day some might disagree with me, leaving us in the exact same place.
I've had the same thought recently. The classic if we're too busy fighting each other then we don't have time to pay attention to how big corpa or whoever is screwing us. It may not have even been intentional initially, but it definitely feels like that division can easily be taken advantage of and currently is. The way social media is and how news/misinformation spreads plays a big part in that and why it's so easily exploitable. The question is what is it going to take for the masses to stop fighting each other and realise who the bad guys are? We need more unity, I'm sick of the division. It's exhausting.
It was always intentional. This has been a tactic used for *thousands* of years.
Divide and Conquer, if the peasants are too busy fighting each other, they will never question why the Lord does nothing. Zack said it best that in case of a revolution "the rich will pay one half of the poor to the kill the other half"
Yep. And the Roman philosophy of distracting people with entertainment is so incredibly relevant now too. People who are relatively comfortable and distracted with entertainment are very unlikely to revolt unless things are getting *really* bad. Like starving and out on the street. In Canada it has even gone that far and people are finally starting to take notice. Big protest organized for July 1st. Hope it sends a message...
So your post really was sarcastic? I had to watch it twice cause it just seemed like a healthy fandom to me. i do agree with you guys tho. All the fandom and random topic infighting makes it way too exhausting to even think about politics, much less get involved with it in a unified manner.
Yea, I guess I hesitate to declare that without any evidence right. That's why I say "may". It being a common tactic isn't enough to confirm anything in itself. Point is people are definitely taking advantage of it now regardless of the original intent
Young people have no clue how we used to just be people living life together.
I mean no offense to you or your comment when I tell you that a lot of us still are, man.
This. Even though I was born in the late 80’s I remember how easy going the world was throughout the 90’s. And when I tell Gen Z how all this race baiting is unusual and a complete 360 from what I grew up with, they just don’t understand and think I’m lying. But it’s all very intentional.
It has always been like this, those in power use conflict to have tighter grasp on society. However, thanks to the internet and social media, they can do it to a degree never seen before.
The tighter their grip, the more star systems.... errr.... Fans that will slip through their fingers.
Increasing racial tensions in the US has long been a goal of the KGB. Same with increasing tension between men and women. There was that tiktok a while back where women were pouring bleach on men's crotches to stop them from "manspreading" and encouraging other American women to do the same? Turned out the videos going viral were mostly filmed in Moscow. They wanted to make it seem like it was happening everywhere so American women would try to do it too.
That’s honestly not too surprising given the shit that’s popped up in the recent decade.
Comment needs to be rated higher - a lot of geopolitical rivals help fund troll and bot farms. Internal disfunction means less external action, which benefits rivals
I mean I’m gonna be honest here so I’ll prolly have a lot of dv, but being real the biggest issue that is dividing people is the fact that now there’s a need for a group of every single thing. Let me explain, back on the day there was people that was racist, yes, of course they were, but the difference is, there wasn’t a movement of people categorizing every single person with the description of “this one is racist” even when they probably aren’t. What is trying to say is, let’s say *Pedro* was a White Male predator and racist mother fucker, there was not a group of people now saying that every person that looks like Pedro is a racist, there was only the fact that Pedro was a racist and a lot of people that now know his face will try to avoid him. Look I’m not even white, I’m fucking brown as shit, but movements like BLM have done more harm than good. Not every cop is a prick, let alone every white cop, there is just bad and good cops, and it was never based on their colors. There’s even black people that is racist towards other black people just because “they are not black enough” like dude, doing movements for all of this harms in the long run because a movement wants to have a target and sadly enough, most of the times, the target is just another race.
Why would you get downvoted for a completely normal and sensible take? You're absolutely right in that everyone gets put into a group now. White guy does something bad? All white people to blame. Black guy does something bad? All black people to blame. We've stopped blaming individuals for being shitty and started blaming groups
Idk man, people on the internet goes crazy when they see stuff they don’t align with but I really appreciate the support and yes of course, that’s basically what people need to start doing, why hate the whole group when you can all bomb-hate the individual which makes the awful racism or action in question. As I said, my skin color is closer to brown, but where I live I could easily be considered white, and it goes like, if I have something good these groups say I have white privileged benefits, if I hang out with black friends, for his other friends them I’m a lightskin wannabe, if I talk with gay people then I hate Christian’s but if I hang out with Christian friends I hate all gays? Like what is that nonsense. Sometimes you just want to do whatever in the hopes that you meet some other people who also want to do whatever but that thing is every day something harder to achieve.
None of it makes sense man… You nailed it all… Luckily I still think these things are mostly terminally online/social media brain rot.. Luckily in real life people still have some sense… but damn is it getting worse and worse
>Not every cop is a prick, let alone every white cop Sorry to pick on you specifically but I keep seeing people use this wrong lately. You have it backwards. It should be "not every white cop is a prick, let alone *every* cop." The point is to say the more specific thing first to highlight your point. If not every white cop is a prick, then it's even more obvious that not every cop of every race is a prick.
Your take is 100% accurate.
People are fucking stupid and willing to jump on any hate bandwagon that comes up unfortunately that plays right into the hands of those who want to stay on top.
Culture war Keep repeating the truth please
Class warfare?
"Ok boomer" was the exact same thing and continues to be. Divide people by every intersection so we miss that our planet, our ecosystem and our future as a species is being raped so i handful of psychopaths can live just a little bit more comfortably The whole thing makes me sick
Fun fact - the media started reporting much more on racism, sexism, trans issues, etc, after the Occupy Wallstreet movement. Woulden't be surprised if it's just jangling the keys in front of the babies eyes.
Identity politics is the death of any society. Because there is no limit to what one can identify with. One of the easiest examples to look at is the Dr Suess story of the star bellied sneetches and what happened when identity politics were introduced. Pay attention to who wins in the end and make the parallel.
I think lots of people will agree with this statement and idea initially. But when you start talking about “how” people are being divided, that’s when there’s resistance. People won’t accept that they are being manipulated. It’s always “the other side” that’s being manipulated and if only they would change their views. My views are totally the correct and moral views. And recently we’ve decided to attack the people who can see the perspectives of both sides. The “enlightened centrist” who are really just on the other side.
BlackRock for example funds and encourages loads of dei . Part of me wants to believe it's just someone trying to be good person, but another part of me thinks that it's just a way to stir up hate and infighting in the working classes so they can fly under the radar.
But They're not trying to encourage loads of DEI. They're trying to FORCE loads of DEI. The CEO even said it in an interview. So it is your second thought that's true!
The toxic and racist fans just started showing up when the cast stopped being 90% white. White folk thinking just because there were Black people back then that went to see SW that it means something. The Black people back then existed in a world where practically every movie made was a 90% white cast. They had to cope with no representation at all, they had no choice. Meanwhile nowadays there are less white cast members and more diversity and white folks lose their god damn fuckin' minds. Weak ass bitches.
As a child of the 90s it’s so god dam obvious how much we have regressed on focusing on race. Swear it was all on its way out with the millennial generation then these dicks just put a new hyper focus on it and all that work went down the drain.
I can only see people from all walks of life having a great time
Which is crazy cuz Disney SW probably created more racist, sexist and toxic people than the prequels combined through making division between the fanbase. Imagine creating hate towards white people, or making shit tier movies with no substance with (diversity) people or that making women empowerment a total joke, imagine this came from a company like Disney.
Even the people who hated Jar Jar weren't being racist. They were hating Jar Jar specifically.
Bro no one cared about Jar Jar because of his race (which he didn’t had because the mother fucker was a frog like dude) they hated him for being a fucking bitch.
Modern clowns think it's race because Ahmed Best was black.
dude, TIL this is as big a surprise as when I found out the VA for samurai jack was black. I liked how things were then, a black guy voices an asian guy and nobody cares because he did a great job.
Samurai Jack's a top tier show. Didn't know that Jack's VA was black. I did know Aku's voice actor also played Uncle Iroh, though.
Phil Lamar. One of the coolest dudes on this planet. Did the arms dealer in MGS4 as well. Loved him in Static Shock, most of all in MAD TV as the UPS guy!
I wouldn't be surprised if we found out 10-20 years down the road that Disney's whole policy was the result of foreign money and influence to destabilize the country but disguised as good will.
I don’t even think it’s foreign money. One of the biggest pushers of DEI is Blackrock. Might be a little tin foil hatty but idk why Blackrock would be so concerned with diversity other than trying to create conflict to profit off of.
Its both foreign and inside. Foreign wants to sow chaos and division to prove that democracy doesnt work and their authoritarian regimes are better Inside.. its just incompetence... American politics is inherently divisive due to the nature of the two party system.. media wanting clickbait attention.. film makers/videogame creators wanting easy blackrock investment.. etc etc
If we find out that they are rubbing their hands at how well they spent their money right now.
or local money meant to divide the country along the lines of race and gender, after occupy wallstreet.
Exactly.. ultrawokeism ends up pissing people off and making people more racist. 16 years ago gay marriage was illegal.. give the 250 mill conservatives time to catch up lol. You can’t just stifle and force a rosy reality on people with an iron hand or it will backfire and create more trumps. Progress used to be measured by changing peoples opinions in a healthy way. A way that led to more freedom. Analyzing every sentence or action someone does and having every movie carry the same political cocktail is not freedom. And I’m a dem lol. Only ever voted that way.
I think people need to have some perspective and understand that the issues being talked about on the internet don’t necessarily reflect reality because most people don’t post their opinion on the internet at all. Like most people on Reddit are lurkers, they are completely silent. Same with people out in the world. These social issues that everyone tightens their panties over are pretty much exclusive to the very few people who actually post about it.
Its very disingenuous to place the creation of racism on Disney when there is an equal amount of people (probably greater) that consumed the content and did not become racist. Those values are not instilled in 200 minutes. You have certainly tipped your hand.
Disney: included diverse casts and leads This moron: “wow, that’s incredibly racist against white people”
I mean are we forgetting that fan hatred ruined one prequel actors life and nearly drove another to suicide?
lol Disney didn't create them. The only person responsible for a person being racist is that piece of shit themselves. 'That corporation made me racist!' get the fuck out of here lmao
If showing a black dude “creates hate” then the hate was always there.
Also to note, people of all backgrounds watching a great movie, no need to pander or tailor something for a group that doesnt need specifically servicing. Believe it or not, black people and gay people liked Star Wars too!
I grew up loving the original star wars trilogy decades after it released and im full hispanic. (Disney thinks that is impossible!) Funny cuz you notice how the DEI/leftwing virtue signal fascists barely push hispanics into alot of things these days?.. they know we righteously YEETED their stupid "latinX" attempt to colonize our language and they've left us alone since, thank god XD.
>latinX I will never understand how the "Inclusive" group one day decided "You know, we need to be racist to be less sexist"
Man I hope you are right about that LatinX garbage. The leftist language dictionary drives me crazy. I'm tired of that nonsense!
I have a friend who is Mexican and a MEGA lefty. Like I am left and she takes it a step farther than me and she was like "Latinx is stupid and nobody will use it."
Believe it or not, white people liked Blade too! A good story is not defined by the presence of all possible skin colors, genders or sexual preferences.
Is this supposed to be a trick question or something? Clearly all of these people are racist, sexist, bigots.
I don’t give a fuck about Star Wars never have. I have seen 1-6 got about an hour into 7 before I walked out of the theater. It just hurts to see how all these people are so juiced and so excited and passionate and all of that is gone. I don’t know what Disney could do to get this energy back.
They could try and get Denis Villeneuve on directing duty. That would get me hyped.
Its amazing how toxic liberal leftist ideology has polluted the minds and convinced POC that they can't enjoy a movie if the main actor/actress isn't black/Asian or hispanic.
The current top comment applies here.
100%. Sad they probably don't realise it.
This sub is way too far gone. The people here are obsessed with the culture war.
Latino main character? WHERE? All I ever see is black or white. Maybe a supporting character, but that's all. Edit: People suggesting Latino actors in Star Wars, shows and characters that have been widely received well. Does that mean Latinos are the ones who can save Star Wars???
Isn’t the Mandalorian guy Chilean?
Yes Pedro pascal is latino
I always forget that since he has his helmet on 99 percent of the time
Isn't Jennifer Lopez the main character in lots of films, going all the way back to the 90's?
Diego Luna? Andor?
The series named after "a boring character" played by a Latino just happens to be the best Star Wars since ROTJ, maybe even since ESB.
Oscar isaac is latino and main cast of the sequels
as cool as he was, I don't really consider him a main character. His character was underdeveloped and we know next to nothing about him. Also, wasn't it reported that his character was actually suppose to die early before the story got rewritten?
How on earth have you not seen [Andor!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKOegEuCcfw) Diego Alexander literally has an accent and is the main character of the show! Not to mention it is loved by all critics and fans alike.
It's interesting that Latino men have consistently lead or been the best parts of Disney Star Wars that mocked, divisive, or cringe: Rogue One Andor Madalorian Season 1 (and parts of 2) Poe Dameron in Sequels -- somehow even when one of the dumbest lines in the Disney canon was said by Poe, no one actually blamed Poe, because he looked like he was saying it with the scriptwriter's gun held to his head.
I love that the whole point is showing there was nothing dividing people before like now except those in power, and here we have people like you still blaming everything on the left and definitely not just people in power trying to sow discontent among common people to make us all hate each other instead of them.
😂 yeah this crowd is so blind. Are there a lot of black people refusing to see a movie with white people? Or, recently, has it been more the opposite? Oh, but what's different is that they're "Pandering to wokeness" now, where "woke" means "diverse cast and bad writing".
Blame DEI and race grifters.
Time before the internet and social media
That one guy with the clown hair calling him "Dark" Vader, hmmm...
And spoiling the plot which the next girl knew not to say.
I watched running man with Arnold last night. The main characters are a Latina, a black dude and an Austrian. This movies from the 80s. Where's the toxic "white males" at then? Disney is a fucking cancer on art and culture.
Arnold also starred opposite a Latina in Total Recall, who was his ideal woman. Latino and Hispanic people have really been underrepresented or even edged out in these DEI initiatives, despite being the largest minority group in the US. At least there was Coco and Encanto, but as far as Disney goes, their inclusivity has pretty much focused only on one ethnicity and gender.
There must be something also within the acting community where different people of background started to take on acting as a passion. Possibly in the last 30 years. When this whole “woke” movement started, 2000s IMO, growing up I thought there were more diverse actors coming in. Back then it was true, but today, 2020s, i feel as though the diverse are shoehorned in with bad acting talents.
Lucasfilm has been overrun by the Sith, that's the only difference.
Nah, even Palpy would be apaled by what Kathleen is do8ng
It's amazing how when you constantly tell someone that everyone is racist, they begin to believe that everyone is racist.
100% this. Human beings seek patterns in everything they see. Tell a person that everything is about race and, unsurprisingly, that is all they see. The irony that it is actually targeted racism towards white (and "white adjacent") people in the name of "making things better" is lost on these people. Or... or they just enjoy being racist bullies. Honestly I don't know at this point. This cult has definitely indoctrinated people in my close family and it sucks!
Padmes role was ahead of it's time, she stood for everything modern feminism was ment to be standing for. Everyone loved her and how Portman played her, everyone acknowledged and agreed with what she stood for without making a big fuzz about it. New actors are arguing that C3PO is actualy a lesbian. I want to eat a sideways broom.
I mean most of the people arguing about it online now probably became fans with the 90s remaster/ big cinema re releases based on their ages. They were not watching the first run of each movie in cinemas.
It's weird seeing most people not being fat.
What happened to the world, man
I wasn't alive for RoJ so I can't speak to that, but I was for the prequels, and I remember the toxicity back then. Most fans hated the prequels. Jake Lloyd got so much hate that he had a mental breakdown and his mom put him into rehab. Hayden took so much heat that he quit acting and moved to a farm in Texas. Lucas cited the fans' hatred towards the prequels as one of his reasons for selling Lucasfilm. So let's not pretend that toxicity in the fandom doesn't exist.
Correct me if I'm wrong but.. racist, sexist and toxic people have always existed... They just got a louder voice due to the internet.
You’re correct but, I’d push back on the internet aspect of your point. I’d say that people who would overuse/misuse those terms (racist, toxic/sexist etc) have gotten a louder and more emboldened voice due to the internet, especially modernly
Now show people walking out of the recent trilogy.... if you can find footage of pleased people.
Was this an opposite experience in USA for the prequels/sequels? As a European, I do no believe racism is a casual thing over there? Did you expect people to shit on each other at the movies or what lmao
A lot of people believe that something doesn't exist if it doesn't happen to them, or if it isn't blatantly obvious. If they can ignore/pretend something doesn't exist. They'll do that. Also, I don't know why everyone (especially in this sub) need a reason as to say why something is shit other than bad writing/acting. Saying something is bad because it's woke, or it's trying to be inclusive (DEI) just undercuts their argument. Personally, anytime someone mentions woke or DEI, I just completely ignore them because I know they're an idiot. I guess they want to pick a team to be on (woke vs anti-woke). Rather than just saying the writing is shit, or the acting is shit or something else. But, I guess woke culture hurts feelings and they want that known.
Across all age groups. Beautiful.
Damn, regular people were more well spoken back in those days. Imagine the responses we'd get today...
You can get this exact footage in the modern day at the premier of any “woke” movie too. I guarantee you everyone who waited in line to see barbie was not standing around angry at “wHiTe sTraiGhT mEN” like I imagine people here just assume. Nothing about this his has changed nowadays unless your brain is glued to sensational social media posts.
Notice no woke bullshit? Yeah, that's why. A brilliant story doesn't push an agenda.
All I see are bigots and racists! /s
it's sad how divided fans are these days.
They aren't, they unanimously hate the shite Disney have been making since taking over, the only shows that do well are the ones everyone likes of which there are but a few.
So unanimous that it still makes shit tons of money.
You obviously read the first sentence and ignored the rest. The films people generally like do well, the ones they don't like do not. Their last film to break a billion $ was The Lion King in 2019 which was an ok film. Critics didn't like it, but the customers did. Most recent films have barely even broken even.
Technically what you said only was a single sentence. Movies in general have been hit or miss lately with even actually good films like Furiosa barely making a splash. The thing with Disney is that they are also multi media. I don't argue that a lot of what they've produced lately isn't great, but I also don't ignore the reality that if they were really doing that poorly they'd change direction.
"It was a fantastic movie, but it was good." -this legend.
Dude with the rainbow hair dropping a mad spoiler lol.
People were so authentic,energetic and articulate back then.
This was their Avengers Endgame cinema in experience
Just tell good stories.
Women and PoC have always been welcome. Just because racists exist somewhere doesn't mean the whole group is like that.
Idk why this sub recommended as I’m not really into the whole identity politics culture war shit (even discussions about) but… Was that bill nye at 1:03? Cuz that’s dope
Man I wish I could of experienced this.
What had me about this interview was them asking what the "biggest surprise" was to the filmgoers who had seen it. I guess spoilers weren't as taboo back then?
who cares? no one is attacking star wars as an especially racist or sexist franchise or fan base. like every franchise and fan base, it’s had its issues, but the way ppl are acting victimized in this thread is silly disney is doing progressive casting bc disney wants to make money looking progressive, but the progressive casting isn’t the issue. if a poc/femme/gay/etc. character was well written and had a good story, no one would give a shit. ppl only give a shit bc the content is shit, which brings me to my second point: disney is making shit action movies bc they’ve never been good at making action movies. they’re mostly a children’s entertainment company, and unfortunately, the bar is p low for what kind of children’s content can turn a profit. basically they’re making lazy content for adult children, which is what disney has been doing for a while now. nothing new to anyone who’s watched this marvel action comedy schlock take over the theaters
>disney is doing progressive casting bc disney wants to make money looking progressive, but the progressive casting isn’t the issue. if a poc/femme/gay/etc. character was well written and had a good story, no one would give a shit. ppl only give a shit bc the content is shit, which brings me to my second point: When someone bitches about woke culture or DEI ruining movies, I kind of assume they're just racist asshats. When someone says the latest disney movie was terrible because the acting and writing were shit, I kind of assume that disney just made a shit movie. I might be wrong in my assumptions, I guess what I'm trying to say is...do like you just did. Bitch about the product, not the person making said product.
It’s kind of funny that people are pointing to a lighthearted news story about excited fans at RotJ as some proof that shit was so much better 40 years ago. You could get this same reaction at most midnight showings for franchises with huge fan bases. Or at a Taylor Swift concert. Excited die hands gonna be excited. I remember how jacked up people were after midnight showings of Episode 1. The next day we all were a bit less hyped and questioned how much we actually enjoyed it outside of one cool lightsaber fight. And even if there was some jackass screaming the movie sucked at this screening in 83, the News probably would’ve cut that. Because that wasn’t the aim of the fluff piece. The big difference now is social media amplifying lots of negativity. But it did exist in 83 too. Plenty of people hated the Ewoks, for example.
It’s so fucking sad seeing all these people just be excited to watch the movie when nowadays all Star Wars seemingly does is just find itself in the center of internet culture war horseshit. Whether it’s Star Wars just not treating its current black characters well or terminally online degenerates in places like the critical drinker subreddit talking about how Star Wars is catered to and only for “white men,” just sucks that Star Wars has a more negative connotation when folk talk about it.
Be nice to have been able to live in those days
Thank fk I got to experience that era of humanity.
I miss those days. It seemed like all Hollywood tried to do, back then, was entertain people.
This was Star Wars on the first d***** one. Then, never again. They continue to blame the fans. Also, we don't speak their name anymore.
This proofs we were more united and had no issues with skin color to gender when everyone was just there to see Luke and Darth Vader. Then, someone who's not happy about this ruined everything and attacked anyone who disagrees
The media didn't start telling everyone that everyone is racist until 2012.
Geez spoiler alert.
It felt like we were making progress on race relations and then social media hit and it became acceptable to discriminate against and hate anyone with “privilege.” Now we have millionaire black girls making music videos about how oppressed they are.
# "The purpose of propaganda is to make one set of people forget the other sets of people are human." ― Aldous Huxley
It's crazy, it almost seems like if you shut up about racism no one cares about race.
Advice is a form of nostalgia, dispensing it is a way of fishing the past From the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts And recycling it for more than it's worth But trust me on the sunscreen
I saw Last Jedi on opening night Thursday so I wouldn’t get any spoilers and no show times were before me. I walked out disappointed. Look how happy everyone is here !
I know this is hyperbole on my part, but this little clip right here is the true legacy of Star Wars: fans coming together, psyched as hell, having a great time. You can just feel the love shared between all these people, total strangers to each other, yet Star Wars unites them. I think we can get back here someday, but we need to stop fighting with each other, and direct the fury where it belongs: at the "creatives" behind a lot of the current content. Here's the truth of the matter: the fanbase fighting amongst itself is exactly what Disney wants. They want us distracted so they can keep doing whatever they want with no real consequences. The diversity of their cast does not matter. What matters is how well the content is written and portrayed. You make the cast of The Acolyte solely straight white people, and I promise you, the show would still be as utterly soulless as it is now. You make Rey a man, and he would still be a poorly written character. The actors are there to do a job, and they have to work with what they're handed. We need to stop blaming diversity quotas, and start consistently blaming the unseriousness and complete lack of creative integrity of the people at the top.
I can spot them... ...It's every damn one of them. All there to see a movie where Leia DIDN'T scissor Chewbacca's black-coded sister; where's the representation?
George Lucas's Star Wars is the ONLY Star Wars that can bring people together. Disney star wars is a weak imitation. That is why star wars is now dead!
Wait... lol are you using this to try and prove sexist, racist & toxic star wars fans don't exist?
What is this supposed to prove exactly?
Look at how bright-eyed and innocent everyone was. Before social media brain rot and culture wars turned everyone into overly-dogmatic, hostile dickwads.
who cares...do you need to analyze everytihng like asmon does...
Yeah but this video is from 1983, not 2024, or anything from the last 30 years. Is there a point you're trying to make when we exist in different political, economical, and societal environments?
The difference now? YouTube grifters. They've made a cottage industry out of outrage. Grown men and women arguing that society is ending because Disney is trying too hard to be inclusive. I'm sure all these grifters are Christian. It's part of the grift. I'm pretty sure this is exactly the opposite of what Jesus would do.
A snippet of America *before* it became clown world. One day we'll return to sanity.
Back when the world made sense. Miss my childhood...
I thought blacks were oppressed, systemic racism and blablabla, seems like race never mattered and its a class issue.
It’s almost like we didn’t have a problem until someone decided to create one 🤔
It’s almost as if using Star Wars to inject leftist propaganda down everyone’s throats doesn’t sit well with people. These diversity actors that are casted are not good by any means, doesn’t help that their characters are poorly written, but still. Believe it or not, people just want entertainment, they don’t care ab race.
God what a fucking bullshit comment section this is
Disney turned a boy brand that everyone loved. To a girl brand that no one loves.
Is she wearing a “REVENGE of the Jedi” T-Shirt? 🤔
It was the original title of episode 6 until it was pointed out tha Jedis do not take revenge so it was changed into 'return of the jedi'.
Im actually kind od surprised at the amount of diversity here. I thought old Star Wars fans were all white men!
Small sample size to be fair
The problem in film has never been having a diversity agenda. I'm sure that not every buddy-cop movie in the 80s was some purely organic coincidence of race. But the difference is that those films were not spiteful, and race was rarely the subject. They assumed that the average movie-goer was a good person. Every character was a character, complete with positive and negative human traits. Modern films are constantly filled with hate. The people who make them believe that every character represents their groups, and so they don't treat them like people. Can't have flaws because it means the group has flaws. Everything in a movie is a 4d chess mindgame about making sure that the poor stupid audience learns the right things from every exchange.
Damn they had HYPE and they actually delivered… amazing.
I'm a bit too young to remember, but my dad often told me how big the StarWars movie was. Everyone was so happy and excited to go the theater, the past often look and sound better even tho it's not necessarily true. Everything wasn't a "political" agenda back then, people could enjoy things without wondering about shit being woke or not. We really capitalized on political shit nowadays, next thing we are selling in the next decades is air, mark my words.
Tell me more about how the series that focused on a rebel force fighting a fascist imperial power didn't have a political agenda.
Good media unites people, bad media divides people. Though division seems to be the plan.
"it was a fantastic movie, but it was good" huh?
IF YOU BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME
People just having a good time and enjoying themselves.
That was before 9/11 happy world
No I did’t - I saw people having fun at one of the best movies ever - The universe is big - I assume their galaxy can be as diverse as our little old planet-
That girl had a revenge of the Jedi shirt. Righteous
Jokes on the 3rd guy. Luke is turned to the dark side. It just took over 20 years. Also was that Anthony Weiner in the clown hair. 😳
That's because in these times, politicians love to use identity plotics to separate us and turn us against each other. The sad part is that a good majority of us are cult members following one side or the other when both sides are just using us for their own political gain.
those "Revenge of the Jedi" t-shirts are going for a premium now. random ebay listing: [https://www.ebay.com/itm/254914111865](https://www.ebay.com/itm/254914111865)
Star Wars was Always for everyone.
Rainbow wig bowtie guy had me rolling. Spoiling the movie and getting the name wrong.
I saw Bill Nye
ez, 1st and 4th interview, according to Disney
But do they know Empire is the superior film?
who gives a flying fuck altho im sure asmon can speak 4 hours about it good thing our little hamster has a following
Man, I thought that was fukn Bill Nye at 1:03? 😂 
it was the black guy that says he hopes Darth Vader kills Luke. read between the lines.