Salary 110k + super
Contract: 38 hrs + reasonable overtime
Actual: 50+
Currently exiting: seems there is a culture of overwork with nil recognition. Possibly my time management is bad, however even with potential promotions it isn't worth it.
You'd think, but you'd be wrong. My wife was on $180k looking for $200k jobs as her next move. KPMG offered a role at comparable level, on a $180k package - actual salary ended up being $20k less when you took out the super, etc.
They're notorious for underpaying and using the hypetrain of partnership (where they're making a half mil easily) to keep people in the so-called family. The benefit is the many who don't make partner end up going off to roles outside of Big 4 accounting for huge salary leaps.
They don't, biggest misconception about Big 4 is that they pay above market. They pay less and offer "experience" as their USP. To be honest, if you have a Big 4 on the CV it does set you up for better roles outside and makes it easier to get.
If this is what other people are saying is true and you work at Big 4 it is very likely not your time management. I thought similar but then I went to industry and it’s a whole different world. The Big 4 make it seem like everything is on you: long hours? Bad time management. Couldn’t get everything done? You didn’t communicate well enough. Have a mental breakdown? Not resilient enough. It’s a sham to cover their own shitty business model.
YMMV but go industry, get paid more, work less hours, and have less stress.
77k
16-24h
22 actual.
Burned out failed doctor doing a few health function related tests for a private, primarily bulk billing company.
The pay cut was worth all the time I can spend being happy.
Thanks for the kind words. It's hard not to get caught up in the culture of medicine and play the comparison game with my friends/colleagues. It doesn't actually feel like I was being harsh on myself to called myself a failure, which probably speaks to just how harsh the norms of my life have become.
I really like the work, and I love having more time with patients, I like that I can still think a little bit, even if the work is a little repetitive. But above all I'm lucky enough to work alone, without a team and all the exhausting politics that can come with it.
You’re not a failed doctor, the system failed you. It’s a job with ridiculous expectations, and you’re not alone in the burn out. Sounds like such a good choice… and I’d love to speak to you about it.
Hey, I gave a bit more of an answer in another reply. Thanks for the kind words and reassurance. If you want to dm me I'm more than happy to talk about any of my experiences.
1 100k.
2 37.5 hrs
3. 50+hrs
Analyst (Finance)
Exiting due to an environment that romanticises long hours and no rest, when it’s so much easier to be efficient.
So if you work 50+ for a 37.5h week and you are in fact efficient, that's not romanticising; it's called wage theft and it's systemic and intentional. You've been robbed day after day after day.
If someone came every day to rob in your house you'd report them to the police. I don't understand why people think it's ok to be robbed at work.
My partner works for a big 4 and there’s a culture instilled that taking leave (sick or annual) is frowned upon. When working from the office he would sometimes stay back till 7-8 and not get home till at least 9pm then leave for work at 7 the next day. WFH has helped that a lot but it’s just ridiculous how it’s the expectation to do so. He’s an analyst also.
170k
38 nominally
Realistically 60+because I have crippling ADD at the moment and have to catch up on work at night to make up for it. Fml
Senior software developer
115k base
38hrs expected
Actually probably like 32hrs depending on how distracted I get, though often up to 38 anyway
Software dev.
First job screwed me for OT in my career so I won't do any unreasonable shit now. So many jobs available it'd be their risk not mine to enforce.
Yeah everywhere is scrambling to keep their devs at the moment, any time the manager comes over to ask something just make sure linkedin is open on your monitor.
lmfao
request a triple monitor setup at work
Monitor1- Seek
Monitor2- LinkedIn Jobs
Monitor3- actual work
keep your manager on their toes and itching to keep u happy
Check out the ABS statistics on median incomes if you want a realistic idea what Australians earn. This sub tends to attract more high income earners. The people here that are high income earners are also less reluctant to share their income and probably get upvoted more. Last but not least I’d also take some of the numbers thrown around here with a grain of salt.
You'll always be depressed if you compare yourself to others, because there will always be someone who earns more than you, is better looking than you, is taller than you etc
Just focus on improving your own salary as much as possible. If that's not possible within your field, change to another. Easier said than done, but it will happen if you really want it to.
Salary: $46k
Contract: No contract
Actual: 0 hrs
Job: live off passive income and spend my time gardening, reading, hiking, photography and taking psychedelics
I have a lot, over 20 in tech and 8 in mobile. I work with 23 year olds who studied on Udemy, never went to uni, have been working for 3 years and making $1000/day as mobile devs
Well, I’m a Lead, so my $1200 day rate is that of a senior position. Having said that, lots of people in my projects are on anywhere from $750-$1000 per day, which is pretty good.
Also, being located in Melbourne helps, there seems to be loads of transformation type work around for the past few years, both private and public sectors.
AI has shown tremendous value in medical imaging. Rads will always be needed for interventional work as well as basic human interaction. There’s a lot of promise with breast imaging and AI, however it’s unknown how much we can trust some of it. AI will continue to develop and get better but I personally think we need to understand why AI might make a call before offering something like a mastectomy if that makes sense?
Too long. 6 years med school. 2 years internship + residency and 5 years speciality training. Plus whatever additional years you need to get onto the program cos not everyone gets in first go
Not either, but in one sentence - the radiographer takes the xrays/scans etc and the radiologist interprets them and provides a report to the requesting clinician. Exceptions include some of the more complex imaging (at least at my hospital) and interventional radiology.
Radiologist = doctor who specializes in interpreting medical imaging and some who perform image-guided interventions
Radiographer = technician who takes the images
Diagnostics only. Interventional work requires extra years during fellowship and are incredibly competitive to get into the program. Interventional radiology jobs are even harder to come by.
It's basically two jobs combined in the one role, calltaker and dispatcher. There is equivalent in every state but QLD is currently hiring, all training on job just need to be adaptable, chill and be able to problem solve. The work is hard, burnout is high and it's shift work but overall I love my job.
How did you get into PM? Does it require specific qualifications? Sorry Haha, I didn’t even know this job existed a few months ago and suddenly I’m seeing it everywhere!
Ahaha don’t worry I didn’t either! I do have a uni degree but it’s totally unrelated. I got a job in a Gov Dept (contract) and kept taking contracts (it was a long 4 or so years of contracts) and working my way up before opportunity arose to get this gig permanently.
Edit - many people I work with have engineering degrees but it’s not a requirement, I’ve never studied in the field.
Just to add to this, there is also a post grad qualification for project management that people often have. You can do a Grad Cert, Grad Diploma or Masters in Project Management.
Just left a job as a vet in a big organisation. Was on:
68k
38 hours +/- 5
About 38 hours average
Veterinarian
Moving up to about 90k. At least the vet shortage is helping with conditions a little.
That's so much lower than I would have expected, given the complexity of the job and how much responsibility you bear. Glad you're on a better wicket now!
$110k + super
35hours
35h atm but was normally 40+
Local gov. Lower level management.
Thanks for this thread. Pretty refreshing to not see the millionaire 25 year olds.
~80k, 72 hours per fortnight. No education or qualifications. Casino Dealer. (6 year pay rate)
Edit: also in regards to actual work hours, at minimum (industry standard and regulation) 20% of my time is spent taking a break, although it's probably closer to 25-30% with staffing inefficiencies and general irregularities.
Salary: Estimated to make 30k+ this financial year
Contract: Freelance
Actual hours: 20-25hours average per week. Hours + pay are dependant on client/project/gig. Some months I make my monthly income within a day/week then chill/no active paid work for the rest of the month, and then some months I'm working full time.
Industry: Arts
Photographer + Retoucher. 2021 = Official first year out of uni and resuming ongoing paid work.
Salary: 104k (115k counting super)
Hours: 37.5
Real Hours: Gosh I’d say like 15 or 20, especially working from home. I just monitor the inbox, attend meetings and watch YouTube between sending some emails off for deliverables
Industry & Job Title: Banking, Product consultant
Be a club promoter and make friends with a person who’s dad is a manager at a bank, get hired and work around for 6 years and move around internally a lot - a summary
When I had customers who depended on what I did, I worked a lot including OT… but the further you get away from the customer and higher up you get, the less you do (but more responsibility if something goes wrong)
Salary: $175k package
Contract: No industrial instrument but 36.15 is what the regular staff are on
Actual hours: entirely determined by the work, anywhere from 30 hours of actual productive work to 60 hours in a worse week.
Public service
Hey mate just wondering if you have any advice for someone to transition from commercial and client side web content creation etc into broadcast editing? What software do you use? What sort of gigs do you usually pick up? Appreciate any info thanks.
Any advice on how to get to that position with your psych career, or on the biggest difficulties / regrets around setting up your own practice? Am currently a prov psych doing my 4+2 by constantly floating through more and more NDIS places slowly starting to think I'll never get out of the internship!
1. Income is currently 150k ish
2. Approx 15-20 hrs
3. Tough to say because a lot of it is just a quick call/text/email from wherever… kind of arrived at 15-20 hours if I add everything up.
Owner and director of an asset finance brokerage. Split between myself and business partner.
Circa $125k +super+bonus blah blah
Fifo 8/6 7/7 so 100hrs dayshift 87.5 hrs nightshift
Actual hrs : well technically all of them. ish... but only worked 15.5 weeks this year soooo....
Fifo operator. Move rocks from here to there....
Salary - $135kish
Contract - 48hrs
Actual - 12hrs give or take a bit
Mining industry in maintenance, alot of waiting around for paperwork and waiting for things to breakdown
Currently - Lender for Big 4 bank:
1. $78k base
2. 38 hours
3. 38-42 hours
From Feb onwards - Police Officer:
1. Training salary of $56k base, $78k base after graduation
2. 38 hours
3. ???
I came from a trade background, so I brought a lot of relevant knowledge and experience to the role. Honestly though, it was probably a whole lot of luck involved too. My previous job was at a consultancy as a graduate for $74k package. I left as soon as I had this new job.
Are you new? I heard that TAFE teaching was long hours for the first few years and then cruisy as once you've got it all set up. I got halfway through my TAE but my brain did a thing and I burned out... sometimes I think about finishing it tho.
My mate is a lawyer, senior associate in a private firm, he is on 95k P.a working 10 hours per week flexible arrangement from home. Tells me he plays video games all day..🥺
Is he contracted to work 10 hours per week? Most private firms still use billable hours and time recording so he seems to be either lying to you or lying to his employer/clients.
Maybe the 10 hours per week is some kind of COVID-related holding pattern to keep him on until things get busy...
It varies per contract, usually 2-3.5k a week.
I estimate off of 40 hours, but usually do closer to 30.
Had a few weeks in July and August where I was doing 60+ hours, but the income from that was around 4-6k a week for about 5 weeks.
I build cages.
Anaesthetics. Quitting seems a bit ridiculous, given I’ve passed all the exams, but I’m struggling with the lack of autonomy/feeling like a cog/never having time for life/working lots of evenings and nights.
It’s hard to tell when the hours will get better. Hopefully consultant life? But they tell you that it gets better post exam too, and I’ve found that a bit of a lie.
I know I could earn double the cash by locuming as a JMO with no responsibility.
It’s sad, because I still really value connecting with and helping patients… but it’s stressful when they’re all so ill and I’m so tired.
55k + super
38 hours contracted
38 hours worked usually. Sometimes home early a few days a week.
My title doesn't technically exist according to my work (which is probably how they are getting away with paying me fuck all).
What I do is basically a mix of purchasing officer, warehousing, supplier, freight and inventory management. Also, set up a lot of venues/contracts we have taken on. We are a rapidly expanding company so I am basically inventing the wheel as I go. Looking at everyone elses salary on here, I feel like I am getting robbed actually... guess that's what happens when you have no qualifications.
1. $115k + 12.75% Supee
2. 36.25 hrs per week
3. 36.25 hrs per week
4. Risk Management/Government Investigations
I used to work 60+ hrs p/w in private sector with no O/T and left for the work-life balance in government. On the off chance I do work more than my required hours (almost never) I take it in TOIL the following week.
160 package, civil engineer
40 hours
37 hours, I do family finance stuff and other things during work hours.
They aren’t very happy with me. I don’t care, I earn more through investing than my own job so I’m not that fussed
1. 270K with bonus, super, etc
2. 37.5
3. 37.5
IT Director.
I spent many years overworking for free. So fucking stupid. Of course if shit hits the fan it's all hands on deck for however long it takes to be fixed, but that's rare.
I'm constantly telling my team to knock off on time and they still keep working crazy hours. People generally do this for no reasons other than they identify with being a hard worker, unable to discern important from trivial tasks, massively overpromising or are inefficient, or thinking that someone expects this of you (unsaid of course). Knowledge workers/techies have this bad.
Word of advice friends, stop working for free! Your work will never be done, working harder is no solution. Go to work then go live your life. If your manager explicitly asks you to regularly work additional.hours for free you need a new job. If you're doing it of your own free will, well....that's on you.
Working overtime in white collar is almost (if not) always your choice. Though you'll often find reasons to rationalise it as 'culture' or 'unwritten expectations' or whatever and pretend like it's not your choice.
Stop working free OT!
I’m guessing you freelance if you don’t have contracted hours?
I also work in digital marketing but in higher education. $87,500 base + 17% super. Super is alright but feel severely underpaid for my skill set otherwise.
How’d you get into what you’re doing? What’s your experience level?
That’s correct.
Only around 4-5 years of experience. Was never employed in the field, just figured it out on my own. First year of freelancing was paid an average of $300/month.
You could certainly start freelancing on the side. There is so much money to be made in ecom/sass with PPC/media buying.
~$275k after tax plus bonus plus shares plus house/utilities/car paid.
35 hours per week, some weeks do less some weeks do more. 12 weeks annual leave.
Engineer in oil and gas. Office based.
Edit: Based overseas presently, expat contract, gross salary = net salary as company pays the tax.
1. Wages: $98k + super + plenty of overtime through the year. (Made $73k so far this FY)
2. Work 38hours, paid 36.
3. Minimum 38, depends on workload and breakdowns.
4. Maintenance Fitter.
Contract : 106K + super + perks.
Hours: 38
Actual hours: 38. Occasional phone calls after hours if something happens.
Facility Manager, Fancy Hotel.
41, could retire but I like the job.
Hospitality.
Salary: 86k
Hours: 30.4 (actual is about 37ish)
Secondary school teacher working 0.8 - 4 days a week with 1 full day off. Currently in the middle of 6 weeks off, hurrah!
1. Salary - $220,000 AUD + 10% super ($880 day rate contract)
2. Contracted Hours - 40 hours per week (50 weeks per year)
3. Actual Hours - 8 to 16 hours
4. Industry and Job Title - Government Administration, Technical Business Analyst
Salary: $130k + super
Hours: 38 a week + reasonable overtime
Actual: 38. Have not worked overtime since I started
Left consulting for a not for profit after 2.5 years, I feel I have lucked out hitting the trifecta of intersting work, a pay bump, and way less hours worked.
I'm a nurse, and I do 10 hour night shifts exclusively. My base is $45.51, plus 15% night shift loading, 50% Saturday and 75% Sunday. Overtime kicks in at 76 hours 150%, then 200% from 80 hours. I do 70 hours most fortnight's but sometimes 90. Last year I cleared $104 000.
Annual salary 70k
Contacted for 38 hours a week.
Actual 60 - 80 hours depending on the week.
Job title: Transport contract supervisor.
Completely burnt out and looking for a new job.
Salary: 81k + 15.4% super
Contracted hours: 37.5
Actual: maybe 10 hours? There's just barely any work and hasn't been for a few years, but it's Government so the job is fairly safe despite the lack of output. I'll be looking to move on in the next year just because I'm so unchallenged right now and it's affecting my ambition.
Salary: 95k + super
Hours : 56
Actual: 60 to 80 depending on the week
Owner of multiple buisness.
By the looks of this thread I should take a hiatus and learn IT
Salary : 75k
Hours : 24/7
Actual work : Depending on the time of year could be 2-3 hours of work a day or could be 14 hours a day for weeks on end away from home
Salary 110k + super Contract: 38 hrs + reasonable overtime Actual: 50+ Currently exiting: seems there is a culture of overwork with nil recognition. Possibly my time management is bad, however even with potential promotions it isn't worth it.
Big 4 Manager?
sounds like a PWC/KPMG manager level
I would think PWC or KPMG pay more than that.
You'd think, but you'd be wrong. My wife was on $180k looking for $200k jobs as her next move. KPMG offered a role at comparable level, on a $180k package - actual salary ended up being $20k less when you took out the super, etc. They're notorious for underpaying and using the hypetrain of partnership (where they're making a half mil easily) to keep people in the so-called family. The benefit is the many who don't make partner end up going off to roles outside of Big 4 accounting for huge salary leaps.
They don't, biggest misconception about Big 4 is that they pay above market. They pay less and offer "experience" as their USP. To be honest, if you have a Big 4 on the CV it does set you up for better roles outside and makes it easier to get.
If this is what other people are saying is true and you work at Big 4 it is very likely not your time management. I thought similar but then I went to industry and it’s a whole different world. The Big 4 make it seem like everything is on you: long hours? Bad time management. Couldn’t get everything done? You didn’t communicate well enough. Have a mental breakdown? Not resilient enough. It’s a sham to cover their own shitty business model. YMMV but go industry, get paid more, work less hours, and have less stress.
77k 16-24h 22 actual. Burned out failed doctor doing a few health function related tests for a private, primarily bulk billing company. The pay cut was worth all the time I can spend being happy.
That’s not failing at all. $77k to work 22 hours a week is a goal many would aspire to. Good on you.
Yeah sign me up lol. That's quite a bit more than I earn at 38 hours a week.
Thanks for the kind words. It's hard not to get caught up in the culture of medicine and play the comparison game with my friends/colleagues. It doesn't actually feel like I was being harsh on myself to called myself a failure, which probably speaks to just how harsh the norms of my life have become. I really like the work, and I love having more time with patients, I like that I can still think a little bit, even if the work is a little repetitive. But above all I'm lucky enough to work alone, without a team and all the exhausting politics that can come with it.
You should write a book about your experiences to help others, thanks for your work Doc, you are amazing.
If you qualify to administer vaccines there is really good money in it right now especially if you do the boosters on Sundays.
Hey this is actually. Quite the neat idea. Thankyou very much, I'll look into it
You’re not a failed doctor, the system failed you. It’s a job with ridiculous expectations, and you’re not alone in the burn out. Sounds like such a good choice… and I’d love to speak to you about it.
the guy deserves it... 99 TER etc. 6yr uni, 2yr intern and 22hrs for $77k worth it
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Meanwhile a year 10 droppout finds a construction/labour job and buys a house 2 years later.
Hey, I gave a bit more of an answer in another reply. Thanks for the kind words and reassurance. If you want to dm me I'm more than happy to talk about any of my experiences.
Salary: 70k Hours: 38 Real hours: 42-45 usually the upper end. I’m currently taking three whole weeks off with my impressive amount of TIL. Healthcare
1 100k. 2 37.5 hrs 3. 50+hrs Analyst (Finance) Exiting due to an environment that romanticises long hours and no rest, when it’s so much easier to be efficient.
So if you work 50+ for a 37.5h week and you are in fact efficient, that's not romanticising; it's called wage theft and it's systemic and intentional. You've been robbed day after day after day. If someone came every day to rob in your house you'd report them to the police. I don't understand why people think it's ok to be robbed at work.
My partner works for a big 4 and there’s a culture instilled that taking leave (sick or annual) is frowned upon. When working from the office he would sometimes stay back till 7-8 and not get home till at least 9pm then leave for work at 7 the next day. WFH has helped that a lot but it’s just ridiculous how it’s the expectation to do so. He’s an analyst also.
Used to be a business banker. If you worked 10-12 hour days Monday to Thursday but dared leave at 3pm Friday you'd get a please explain.
And be expected to socialise after hours otherwise not a team player
Bud, you talking my language. What is it with the finance industry and frothing long hours. It is inefficient!!
Part of the culture
170k 38 nominally Realistically 60+because I have crippling ADD at the moment and have to catch up on work at night to make up for it. Fml Senior software developer
hey fellow dev. pretty much the same here. maybe not the 60+ hrs though. maybe 45.
115k base 38hrs expected Actually probably like 32hrs depending on how distracted I get, though often up to 38 anyway Software dev. First job screwed me for OT in my career so I won't do any unreasonable shit now. So many jobs available it'd be their risk not mine to enforce.
Yeah everywhere is scrambling to keep their devs at the moment, any time the manager comes over to ask something just make sure linkedin is open on your monitor.
lmfao request a triple monitor setup at work Monitor1- Seek Monitor2- LinkedIn Jobs Monitor3- actual work keep your manager on their toes and itching to keep u happy
Welp, this had been a depressing thread.
Average income appears to be 150k.
In this sub sure. Actual median is still $80k ish.
Check out the ABS statistics on median incomes if you want a realistic idea what Australians earn. This sub tends to attract more high income earners. The people here that are high income earners are also less reluctant to share their income and probably get upvoted more. Last but not least I’d also take some of the numbers thrown around here with a grain of salt.
You'll always be depressed if you compare yourself to others, because there will always be someone who earns more than you, is better looking than you, is taller than you etc Just focus on improving your own salary as much as possible. If that's not possible within your field, change to another. Easier said than done, but it will happen if you really want it to.
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Now you know who is buying all these houses.
Salary: $46k Contract: No contract Actual: 0 hrs Job: live off passive income and spend my time gardening, reading, hiking, photography and taking psychedelics
Your living the end goal wtf Any starters on how to get there?
Make money Invest it Stop consooming
You lost me at point (1)
The richest dude here.
I could see myself taking more psychedelics if I didn't have to work.
My goal eventually. Nice
~$280k, contracted for 40 hours per week but in reality probably do around 15. IT (Digital Transformation, delivery)
I’m about the same, app developer. $1200/day. About 3 hours a day on average
Wow! How many years of experience? This is awesome
I have a lot, over 20 in tech and 8 in mobile. I work with 23 year olds who studied on Udemy, never went to uni, have been working for 3 years and making $1000/day as mobile devs
Software dev here, how did you find that kind of work?
Well, I’m a Lead, so my $1200 day rate is that of a senior position. Having said that, lots of people in my projects are on anywhere from $750-$1000 per day, which is pretty good. Also, being located in Melbourne helps, there seems to be loads of transformation type work around for the past few years, both private and public sectors.
That's wild, I'm a tech lead who clearly has some research to do. Thanks for sharing.
1. 458k last year 2. 50hrs per week give or take. Work 7 days on shift and 7 days off schedule 3. Probably 50hrs give or take Radiologist
Nice, that must be some good eyes you have.
Are you at all concerned that AI may affect your work or will it just make you focus on more complex issues?
AI has shown tremendous value in medical imaging. Rads will always be needed for interventional work as well as basic human interaction. There’s a lot of promise with breast imaging and AI, however it’s unknown how much we can trust some of it. AI will continue to develop and get better but I personally think we need to understand why AI might make a call before offering something like a mastectomy if that makes sense?
Dayummm how many years is study?
13 years minimum. Lobster can vouch, but also not sure why you’re getting down voted.
Too long. 6 years med school. 2 years internship + residency and 5 years speciality training. Plus whatever additional years you need to get onto the program cos not everyone gets in first go
Wow thats serious dedication. Was this something you always wanted to do? Thanks for information its very interesting.
I'm enjoying reading an interaction between a crafty lobster and a galloping scallop.
lol, I can picture the Disney cartoon movie now. Boom! Trademarked before Disney can nick it!
What’s the difference between a radiologist and a radiographer? In terms of day to day, as I see the study paths are different. Edited
Not either, but in one sentence - the radiographer takes the xrays/scans etc and the radiologist interprets them and provides a report to the requesting clinician. Exceptions include some of the more complex imaging (at least at my hospital) and interventional radiology.
Radiologist = doctor who specializes in interpreting medical imaging and some who perform image-guided interventions Radiographer = technician who takes the images
Is that fully, or partly Private?
Mix of both
Do you do any procedures or mainly diagnostic work?
Diagnostics only. Interventional work requires extra years during fellowship and are incredibly competitive to get into the program. Interventional radiology jobs are even harder to come by.
Is it boring?
No it’s great. I really like looking at photos lol and you have a great team to vibe with.
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1. 85K + Super/Salary sacrifice (Always OT available made 100k last year) 2. 40 3. 40 Industry: Government and 000 Ambulance Communications
Like a dispatcher? How do I get into that? Sounds interesting
It's basically two jobs combined in the one role, calltaker and dispatcher. There is equivalent in every state but QLD is currently hiring, all training on job just need to be adaptable, chill and be able to problem solve. The work is hard, burnout is high and it's shift work but overall I love my job.
150k + super 38hrs 45hrs but get flex and don’t have to do these hours Project Management
How did you get into PM? Does it require specific qualifications? Sorry Haha, I didn’t even know this job existed a few months ago and suddenly I’m seeing it everywhere!
Ahaha don’t worry I didn’t either! I do have a uni degree but it’s totally unrelated. I got a job in a Gov Dept (contract) and kept taking contracts (it was a long 4 or so years of contracts) and working my way up before opportunity arose to get this gig permanently. Edit - many people I work with have engineering degrees but it’s not a requirement, I’ve never studied in the field.
Just to add to this, there is also a post grad qualification for project management that people often have. You can do a Grad Cert, Grad Diploma or Masters in Project Management.
Just left a job as a vet in a big organisation. Was on: 68k 38 hours +/- 5 About 38 hours average Veterinarian Moving up to about 90k. At least the vet shortage is helping with conditions a little.
That's so much lower than I would have expected, given the complexity of the job and how much responsibility you bear. Glad you're on a better wicket now!
Fellow vet here - out of curiosity small animal GP? how many years out? And state?
Metro area small animal GP. 2 years out only. NSW. Wages are rising due to the shortage, now's the time to get that raise.
$110k + super 35hours 35h atm but was normally 40+ Local gov. Lower level management. Thanks for this thread. Pretty refreshing to not see the millionaire 25 year olds.
~80k, 72 hours per fortnight. No education or qualifications. Casino Dealer. (6 year pay rate) Edit: also in regards to actual work hours, at minimum (industry standard and regulation) 20% of my time is spent taking a break, although it's probably closer to 25-30% with staffing inefficiencies and general irregularities.
Did that for six months and hated it. Too many drunks abusing me for their stupidity.
Salary: 85k + 7k bonus + super Hours: 38 Actual hours 34 - 38 Business Analyst in tech, 1 year of undergrad uni studies left
Salary: Estimated to make 30k+ this financial year Contract: Freelance Actual hours: 20-25hours average per week. Hours + pay are dependant on client/project/gig. Some months I make my monthly income within a day/week then chill/no active paid work for the rest of the month, and then some months I'm working full time. Industry: Arts Photographer + Retoucher. 2021 = Official first year out of uni and resuming ongoing paid work.
1. 17k 2. 0 3. 0
Been there, I almost miss it sometimes.
Salary: 104k (115k counting super) Hours: 37.5 Real Hours: Gosh I’d say like 15 or 20, especially working from home. I just monitor the inbox, attend meetings and watch YouTube between sending some emails off for deliverables Industry & Job Title: Banking, Product consultant
How do i get your job
Be a club promoter and make friends with a person who’s dad is a manager at a bank, get hired and work around for 6 years and move around internally a lot - a summary
You are the only person I have ever heard of that works for bank that's not over working.
When I had customers who depended on what I did, I worked a lot including OT… but the further you get away from the customer and higher up you get, the less you do (but more responsibility if something goes wrong)
Salary: $175k package Contract: No industrial instrument but 36.15 is what the regular staff are on Actual hours: entirely determined by the work, anywhere from 30 hours of actual productive work to 60 hours in a worse week. Public service
1. $110-120k 2. 38 3. Current hours: 60- Infinity Junior doctor
1. 205k + 80k bonus. 2. 40 (38 maybe? Full time) 3. 30-50 Tech, solution architecture but moving to application security engineering this month.
$215k 40 hours contracted 35-40 hours actual Senior Business Analyst
Wow what industry are you in? And just checking this is a contract gig?
Banking industry, and yes - contractor. When I was perm in a similar role it was more like $140k
Checks out. Most BAs make about 800-850 per day, throw in overtime and you’re swimming.
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Hey mate just wondering if you have any advice for someone to transition from commercial and client side web content creation etc into broadcast editing? What software do you use? What sort of gigs do you usually pick up? Appreciate any info thanks.
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120-140k annually Care worker (self employed) 40 hours a week Probably work about 35 get let off early a lot
$100k base plus vehicle / super and 1.5x weekend, and over night allowance Approx $140 this year , average 52hr week Enviro work
Is this enviro consultancy? Compliance? ESG analyst? Currently in a Masters in this field and want to return to Australia to work. Cheers.
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Any advice on how to get to that position with your psych career, or on the biggest difficulties / regrets around setting up your own practice? Am currently a prov psych doing my 4+2 by constantly floating through more and more NDIS places slowly starting to think I'll never get out of the internship!
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This seems extraordinary - you must have a few people working underneath you? I need to get employees, man.
1. Income is currently 150k ish 2. Approx 15-20 hrs 3. Tough to say because a lot of it is just a quick call/text/email from wherever… kind of arrived at 15-20 hours if I add everything up. Owner and director of an asset finance brokerage. Split between myself and business partner.
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Salary: 77k Contracted hours: 38 Actual hours: 45 Primary school teacher, 3 years out
$94k 38hrs 40-45hrs depending on peak periods HR
75k + super 37.5 40 ish Analyst
Circa $125k +super+bonus blah blah Fifo 8/6 7/7 so 100hrs dayshift 87.5 hrs nightshift Actual hrs : well technically all of them. ish... but only worked 15.5 weeks this year soooo.... Fifo operator. Move rocks from here to there....
Salary $70k Hours - 20 hours a week Job - Casual night shift RN
Why am I not seeing any mlm sales people on here? They make a fortune apparently.
$90k + super + laptop + phone + tolls + petrol covered 38 hours a week Actual hours 19 Therapist
Salary 136k + super Contracted: 38 Working: 25 at most, 9 months in a year, 60-70 3months in a year. Infrastructure Project Management
Salary: $83k base + OT, super, Hilux, phone, laptop Contracted hours: 40 Actual hours: 38-45 Domestic electrician
Last year: Salary - 500k+ plus super Hours - 38/wk plus 1 week in 4 on call This year - about $115k Hours - 7/wk Psychiatrist
1. 65k + Super 2. 38 hours 3. 45-60 hours 4. Hospitality - Bar Manager
Been there..never again!
Salary - $135kish Contract - 48hrs Actual - 12hrs give or take a bit Mining industry in maintenance, alot of waiting around for paperwork and waiting for things to breakdown
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$110k + super 35 hours 35 hours Government, social media marketing
100k base + super + bonuses 40 hours p/w Actual: 0-60 hours p/w Tech consulting
Currently - Lender for Big 4 bank: 1. $78k base 2. 38 hours 3. 38-42 hours From Feb onwards - Police Officer: 1. Training salary of $56k base, $78k base after graduation 2. 38 hours 3. ???
Salary: $110k package Contract: 40 hours Actual: 40-42 hours Electrical Engineer in machinery manufacturing. Graduated uni 12 months ago.
Well done 1 year out of uni!
I came from a trade background, so I brought a lot of relevant knowledge and experience to the role. Honestly though, it was probably a whole lot of luck involved too. My previous job was at a consultancy as a graduate for $74k package. I left as soon as I had this new job.
Salary: $99k Contract hours: 38 Actual hours: 50+ TAFE teacher
Are you new? I heard that TAFE teaching was long hours for the first few years and then cruisy as once you've got it all set up. I got halfway through my TAE but my brain did a thing and I burned out... sometimes I think about finishing it tho.
80k base approx 130k OTE 38 + reasonable overtime 30-38 Tech sales
47k incl super 37.5 50 Big 4 audit ):
My mate is a lawyer, senior associate in a private firm, he is on 95k P.a working 10 hours per week flexible arrangement from home. Tells me he plays video games all day..🥺
Is he contracted to work 10 hours per week? Most private firms still use billable hours and time recording so he seems to be either lying to you or lying to his employer/clients. Maybe the 10 hours per week is some kind of COVID-related holding pattern to keep him on until things get busy...
215 base 38 hours 25-40 hours Tech
This guy. What exactly you doing for 215 base? Good work on the hours.
140k plus 27k bonus Senior software engineer Hours 40-50
1. $350K 2. 40hrs 3. Min 40hrs. Peak project periods ~50-60hrs IT Portfolio Delivery
60k 38 hours Work 45 to 50 on average week Hospitality Chef
1. $250k 2. Like everyone, 38hrs a week 3. 50 or so Finance, Head of Risk & Compliance, mid-sized firm.
260k base + 150k+ annual bonus 40 hours 50 hours give or take Financial services / sales
1. 73k 2. 40 3. 32 - 35 hours depending on meetings Secondary teacher (fresh grad)
It varies per contract, usually 2-3.5k a week. I estimate off of 40 hours, but usually do closer to 30. Had a few weeks in July and August where I was doing 60+ hours, but the income from that was around 4-6k a week for about 5 weeks. I build cages.
90k base + super Contract: 38 hr/wk Actual hours: 36-38 hr/wk Registered Nurse
$120ish, prob $130 after overtime. Rostered: 38.5 Expected: 45-70 Doctor in a specialist training program. Super burnt out and thinking of quitting.
Anaesthetics. Quitting seems a bit ridiculous, given I’ve passed all the exams, but I’m struggling with the lack of autonomy/feeling like a cog/never having time for life/working lots of evenings and nights. It’s hard to tell when the hours will get better. Hopefully consultant life? But they tell you that it gets better post exam too, and I’ve found that a bit of a lie. I know I could earn double the cash by locuming as a JMO with no responsibility. It’s sad, because I still really value connecting with and helping patients… but it’s stressful when they’re all so ill and I’m so tired.
55k + super 38 hours contracted 38 hours worked usually. Sometimes home early a few days a week. My title doesn't technically exist according to my work (which is probably how they are getting away with paying me fuck all). What I do is basically a mix of purchasing officer, warehousing, supplier, freight and inventory management. Also, set up a lot of venues/contracts we have taken on. We are a rapidly expanding company so I am basically inventing the wheel as I go. Looking at everyone elses salary on here, I feel like I am getting robbed actually... guess that's what happens when you have no qualifications.
112k + super 38hours 30hours Architect
$75k 38 hours a week. 38 hours a week. NFP project officer
1. $115k + 12.75% Supee 2. 36.25 hrs per week 3. 36.25 hrs per week 4. Risk Management/Government Investigations I used to work 60+ hrs p/w in private sector with no O/T and left for the work-life balance in government. On the off chance I do work more than my required hours (almost never) I take it in TOIL the following week.
180k salary 38hrs Actual hours = 25-30 Program management in tech/telco
Salary $80k + super and profit share Contracted Hours: 38 Actual: 45-50 Small regional Vic tax accountant
72K + super 40 hours 40 hours Systems/Network Admin
Before FIRE: 1. 150k + Bonus 2. 38 hours 3. 40-45 hours Finance - Operational Risk Management (but years in IT before that)
160 package, civil engineer 40 hours 37 hours, I do family finance stuff and other things during work hours. They aren’t very happy with me. I don’t care, I earn more through investing than my own job so I’m not that fussed
1. 270K with bonus, super, etc 2. 37.5 3. 37.5 IT Director. I spent many years overworking for free. So fucking stupid. Of course if shit hits the fan it's all hands on deck for however long it takes to be fixed, but that's rare. I'm constantly telling my team to knock off on time and they still keep working crazy hours. People generally do this for no reasons other than they identify with being a hard worker, unable to discern important from trivial tasks, massively overpromising or are inefficient, or thinking that someone expects this of you (unsaid of course). Knowledge workers/techies have this bad. Word of advice friends, stop working for free! Your work will never be done, working harder is no solution. Go to work then go live your life. If your manager explicitly asks you to regularly work additional.hours for free you need a new job. If you're doing it of your own free will, well....that's on you. Working overtime in white collar is almost (if not) always your choice. Though you'll often find reasons to rationalise it as 'culture' or 'unwritten expectations' or whatever and pretend like it's not your choice. Stop working free OT!
250-290k Paid on results, no contracted hours 3-5 hrs per week Online marketing
I’m guessing you freelance if you don’t have contracted hours? I also work in digital marketing but in higher education. $87,500 base + 17% super. Super is alright but feel severely underpaid for my skill set otherwise. How’d you get into what you’re doing? What’s your experience level?
That’s correct. Only around 4-5 years of experience. Was never employed in the field, just figured it out on my own. First year of freelancing was paid an average of $300/month. You could certainly start freelancing on the side. There is so much money to be made in ecom/sass with PPC/media buying.
Nice, thanks for the reply. Do you go through freelance websites or use your network to get gigs?
760k last year, 320k the year before 30-40h Onlyfans/cams
210K + bonus + shares + benefits + super 38 hrs 10-30 hrs depending on project IT Security
~$275k after tax plus bonus plus shares plus house/utilities/car paid. 35 hours per week, some weeks do less some weeks do more. 12 weeks annual leave. Engineer in oil and gas. Office based. Edit: Based overseas presently, expat contract, gross salary = net salary as company pays the tax.
What kind of engineering role?
Corporate Reservoir Engineer
Good lord that pay!! Are you legally liable if something goes wrong?
Not quite sure what you mean exactly, but no, there are people up the chain who would be legally liable.
1. ~130 2. 35hr/week contracted 3. 40-45/week actual (40 weeks/year) Education - (Teacher + leadership allowances)
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108k + 40k bonus and 10k extra duties Contract is 8 to 4 weekdays so 40 hours Actually hours per week would 60+ Rural education
Salary: 115k Base + ~20k bonus (performance based) Contract: 38 hrs + reasonable overtime Actual: 45-50 (~42 onsite + time organising from home) Manufacturing Shift Leader in Sydney
1. Wages: $98k + super + plenty of overtime through the year. (Made $73k so far this FY) 2. Work 38hours, paid 36. 3. Minimum 38, depends on workload and breakdowns. 4. Maintenance Fitter.
110k + super + ~50k profit share 38+reasonable overtime Prob work on average 45-50 hours Boutique Tax Accountant, senior associate
Contract : 106K + super + perks. Hours: 38 Actual hours: 38. Occasional phone calls after hours if something happens. Facility Manager, Fancy Hotel. 41, could retire but I like the job. Hospitality.
Salary: 86k Hours: 30.4 (actual is about 37ish) Secondary school teacher working 0.8 - 4 days a week with 1 full day off. Currently in the middle of 6 weeks off, hurrah!
1. Salary - $220,000 AUD + 10% super ($880 day rate contract) 2. Contracted Hours - 40 hours per week (50 weeks per year) 3. Actual Hours - 8 to 16 hours 4. Industry and Job Title - Government Administration, Technical Business Analyst
Salary: 80,000 Contracted: 38 hours Actually work: 40 hours Hairdresser
Salary: $130k + super Hours: 38 a week + reasonable overtime Actual: 38. Have not worked overtime since I started Left consulting for a not for profit after 2.5 years, I feel I have lucked out hitting the trifecta of intersting work, a pay bump, and way less hours worked.
I'm a nurse, and I do 10 hour night shifts exclusively. My base is $45.51, plus 15% night shift loading, 50% Saturday and 75% Sunday. Overtime kicks in at 76 hours 150%, then 200% from 80 hours. I do 70 hours most fortnight's but sometimes 90. Last year I cleared $104 000.
Annual salary 70k Contacted for 38 hours a week. Actual 60 - 80 hours depending on the week. Job title: Transport contract supervisor. Completely burnt out and looking for a new job.
$180k Contracted - 37.5 hours Actual - 50 hours Solicitor
Salary: 81k + 15.4% super Contracted hours: 37.5 Actual: maybe 10 hours? There's just barely any work and hasn't been for a few years, but it's Government so the job is fairly safe despite the lack of output. I'll be looking to move on in the next year just because I'm so unchallenged right now and it's affecting my ambition.
Salary: $129k plus 17% super Contract: 35hrs Actual: 50+ Industry: Uni lecturer (level C)
1. 85k inc super 2. 40 hours 3. Between 20-30 since WFH Content Marketing
Salary: 95k + super Hours : 56 Actual: 60 to 80 depending on the week Owner of multiple buisness. By the looks of this thread I should take a hiatus and learn IT
$97000 + super 38 hours 38-40 hours Corporate retail, promotional manager
Salary : 75k Hours : 24/7 Actual work : Depending on the time of year could be 2-3 hours of work a day or could be 14 hours a day for weeks on end away from home