As someone who lives in one of those LGA's, I would say that there shouldn't be a curfew at all as there isn't any evidence that they will actually do anything & the logic for implementing them seems to be more about optics and political theater than anything scientific.
However, since it seems that many in Australia support extreme measures as long as they aren't applied to them, I support extending the curfew across Sydney so everyone else can share in our misery.
No curfew for mine. I’m outside the LGAs and believe there should either be a curfew across Sydney or none at all.
Time and time again we’re told there is no scientific basis for a curfew and they just hope it makes a difference. Not a good reason to place yet another burden on the suffering people of the LGAs of concern.
It feels like the government feels like something has to be done, lots of people are criticising them for not copying Melbourne, so they’ve just copied Melbourne.
But, they don’t seem to have copied the parts that might actually make a difference with workplace transmission (or if they have - they haven’t told us about it). Instead, we have Covid theatre playing out, placing a burden on the poorest areas of Sydney for little benefit, rather than the businesses where household transmission is being seeded.
You mustn't use electricity, own a car or purchase goods from China.
Also, let's class going for a walk at 9:01 pm.in the same league as rape and murder.
Logic's not your strong suit is it buddy?
You don't get to just make your own choice when it comes to using electricity, owning a car, or purchasing goods from China, that choice has only been granted to you by the collective will of the people allowing it to happen.
And it appears that you are saying anyone should be allowed to egg your house or take out loans under your name, because wowee we can't punish people for that, punishing people is what we do to people who rape and murder and they're clearly not in the same league.
I can't believe that you are defending the implementation of a curfew.
The evidence for it couldn't even be justified by Dr Chant during the presser this morning.
I'm not just defending its implementation, I've been keen to see it implemented for months and said so often. We saw the evidence for it when Melbourne went from 725 cases to zero, go argue with that.
If curfews were the only measure introduced then yes, that would be good evidence of their effectiveness. But it wasn’t.
In fact, it wasn’t introduced in any of the subsequent (and successful) Victorian lockdowns until this week, suggesting it’s low on the list of effective measures in the eyes of the Victorian government.
Let’s see if they have an impact in Melbourne in the next few weeks. I sincerely hope so, but admit to being somewhat sceptical.
Edit: sorry, this was meant to be a response to your previous comment re: 725 to 0.
In response to your description, you are exempt from the curfew if you need to attend essential work.
It is, but it is such a hassle for police to define those who is going home back from work?
They only need to catch enough that it discourages other people from doing the same. The same sort of theory applies to any law
I see.. that makes sense! Thanks mate
There are more than 60 cases daily outside the lgas of concern, of course we need to do it for the whole of Sydney.
As someone who lives in one of those LGA's, I would say that there shouldn't be a curfew at all as there isn't any evidence that they will actually do anything & the logic for implementing them seems to be more about optics and political theater than anything scientific. However, since it seems that many in Australia support extreme measures as long as they aren't applied to them, I support extending the curfew across Sydney so everyone else can share in our misery.
Any evidence that curfews work? Guarantee that the local Coles is going to be busier before then.
Curfew across the entire state
No curfew for mine. I’m outside the LGAs and believe there should either be a curfew across Sydney or none at all. Time and time again we’re told there is no scientific basis for a curfew and they just hope it makes a difference. Not a good reason to place yet another burden on the suffering people of the LGAs of concern. It feels like the government feels like something has to be done, lots of people are criticising them for not copying Melbourne, so they’ve just copied Melbourne. But, they don’t seem to have copied the parts that might actually make a difference with workplace transmission (or if they have - they haven’t told us about it). Instead, we have Covid theatre playing out, placing a burden on the poorest areas of Sydney for little benefit, rather than the businesses where household transmission is being seeded.
Here's an idea. Why don't you let other people make their own choices and leave them be. You can apply the curfew to yourself if you so choose.
Because people have been making crap choices that have worsened the outbreak
Despite majority of cases occurring in workplaces and households?
You only get to make your own choice where it only negatively impacts you. That is why theft, rape, and murder are illegal.
You mustn't use electricity, own a car or purchase goods from China. Also, let's class going for a walk at 9:01 pm.in the same league as rape and murder.
Logic's not your strong suit is it buddy? You don't get to just make your own choice when it comes to using electricity, owning a car, or purchasing goods from China, that choice has only been granted to you by the collective will of the people allowing it to happen. And it appears that you are saying anyone should be allowed to egg your house or take out loans under your name, because wowee we can't punish people for that, punishing people is what we do to people who rape and murder and they're clearly not in the same league.
I can't believe that you are defending the implementation of a curfew. The evidence for it couldn't even be justified by Dr Chant during the presser this morning.
I'm not just defending its implementation, I've been keen to see it implemented for months and said so often. We saw the evidence for it when Melbourne went from 725 cases to zero, go argue with that.
I suppose we can agree to disagree and see how it works in the 12 LGAs in Sydney and all of Melbourne in the next 2 weeks.
All of Melbourne, yes, but we also know LGA specific lockdowns don't work either.
If curfews were the only measure introduced then yes, that would be good evidence of their effectiveness. But it wasn’t. In fact, it wasn’t introduced in any of the subsequent (and successful) Victorian lockdowns until this week, suggesting it’s low on the list of effective measures in the eyes of the Victorian government. Let’s see if they have an impact in Melbourne in the next few weeks. I sincerely hope so, but admit to being somewhat sceptical. Edit: sorry, this was meant to be a response to your previous comment re: 725 to 0.