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FacetiousTomato

Figured this was one of the many reasons development was going so slow. Though I don't know what is involved in the process of making it work on other platforms.


JankyJawn

It can be a real McBitch. You are at the mercy of the platform and they can be real annoying.


Brohma312

Moving the game to PS5 means you have to deal with how much a pain PS cert process is.


Greaterdivinity

If they're working on a second port that does explain some things. I can't wait for support to continue to be slow as shit next year while they work on the Switch 2 port!


Armendicus

Knowin nintendo, switch support wont come til 2070!!


LapizAssassin

Switch just isn't up to snuff for Darktide. Vermintide it could handle, but Darktide is gonna have to wait for the Switch's successor


Armendicus

I meant switch 2 . Ninty doesnt like fun.


P1xelHunter78

I’ll settle for my steam deck back


Dolbey

since they are using their own engine its probably a bit more work than the usual.


jennafreemon

All I know of the engine is helldiver's uses it as well.


Dolbey

I actually had to look this up, since I was pretty sure fatshark uses their in house engine, and holy shit you are right in a way. Apparently, Fatshark developed their own engine and then sold it to autodesk, for them to license it. According to Wikipedia, the money they gained from it was used to develop vermintide one. Arrowhead then licensed the engine from autodesk to make helldiver 1 and 2 with it. I honestly never heard of a game engine from autodesk, so this was pretty interesting. I would assume, tho, that fatshark still works on its sorcecode to make it work specifically for their needs. Also Autodesk wasn't successful with their aquired engine so the shut down support later in 2018, so i guess that left arrowhead and fatshark with the responsibility to keep everything up to date. also found this from one of the devs. [https://www.reddit.com/r/Vermintide/comments/7ksvsq/comment/drh6ml3/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/Vermintide/comments/7ksvsq/comment/drh6ml3/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)


breadedfishstrip

Who coincidentally also seem to suffer from the "spaghetti code" issue where every bugfix patch brings fun new surprises


RedShocktrooper

That just plain old happens on a sufficiently old engine. 99 Unpatched Bugs on the wall, 99 unpatched bugs Take one down, hotfix it around 114 unpatched bugs on the wall


FacetiousTomato

Same engine as vermintide though, which already has PS5 support. I don't know how much that helps them, but I bet it does help.


Dolbey

oh shoot, i actually didn't know V2 was already released on the ps5. However there still might be some work to do. Iirc they branched out an older version of the v2 engine and iterated on that, so darktide is probably running on a more or less different version of the v2 engine. I would assume that on a technical level, there is a ton of new stuff. Their experience is surely useful but you still have to do the work.


agustusmanningcocke

I do software development for a worldwide app, and yeah - you have to be cognizant of all the quirks of each platform, and variant of each platform. It’s a pain in the ass.


GuegelChrome

Michael Soft


exarban

This time around they'll give the Playstation players 24,000 Aquilas


silverbullet1989

Did PC players ever get what was FS said we'd get in response to the backlash to the xbox Aquila's giveaway?


badwin-vt

Anyone who logged in on PC before a cutoff date got 4 cosmetic sets.


Hellfeesh

Funny thing is that xbox players could login on a PC to get the rewards and have them on Xbox too.


Justin_Wolf

Nice!


silverbullet1989

yeah i remember that, i thought they had said that something else would be coming and that the cosmetic thing was just it. Im probably misremembering.


P1xelHunter78

Bring out Mobean steel weapons and have PC players get a special “ancient” version. Maybe a descriptor that says: “these holy weapons have been here from the beginning”


ShiguruiX

I launched the game once through the cloud gaming thing on Xbox, got the free aquilas and the cosmetic sets.


badwin-vt

*Hacker Man has entered the chat*


IAteAGuitar

Not about to unclutch those pearls I tell you!


STR_Guy

We got some more cruddy cosmetic sets and a pearl clutching accusation from a short lived CM. (She made up some bs about insurance coverage, but homegirl got forced out; we’re not stupid).


WiseOldManatee

She's still active in the Discord, I find it hard to believe she'd have stuck around if she was forced out


No-Adhesiveness-262

I wouldn't give asshats like that much credence. She made one fuck up and then walked away from a thankless job. I'm still personally annoyed by the Aquila deal- still, but that wasn't on her and her reprsonse was explained immediately by her.  This Fandom gets the communication it deserves tbh. 


STR_Guy

If you believe that, I’ve got a bridge to sell ya. There’s no universe in which that comment by her was appropriate, even if her assumption had been correct. So why does it matter that she explained her thought process behind it? The fact that you see that as some kind of vindication means we probably won’t agree on this.


Appropriate_Bat_8403

She attacked gamers!? How could she


FrontlinerDelta

Ah right, you're of the opinion you can spew vitriol and insults at customer service reps (essentially) and still deserve courteous respect in return. Sure.


STR_Guy

No, but professional communication employees are indeed expected to maintain their composure and professionalism when addressing the customer base. It’s simple fact.


GooeySlenderFerret

Yea she was off her CM schedule and came in and said “this sounds unfair, I’ll bring it up at the next meeting”. Drama babies in this sub saw one line over an hour into the drama and took it out of context. Self fulfilling prophecy as everyone became pearl clutchers and now they are making lies about her leaving when it was literally just because her bf/husband wouldn’t get healthcare if they moved to sweden


FrontlinerDelta

Exactly this, glad to see some others remember what actually happened. Her actual statement was something closer to "the pearl clutching is a bit much", as in people were being hyperbolic and it was a bit over the top. Everyone IMMEDIATLEY flipped out and proceeded to "clutch their pearls", lmao. The lack of self-awareness that was going on was pretty bad.


Appropriate_Bat_8403

The Aquila whining was the most pathetic drama ever. She rightfully called everyone one of you pearl clutchers


RevolutionaryLink163

![gif](giphy|U67CajqFIjiDSACi5i)


Cloudydaes

Cool alt, sister


Appropriate_Bat_8403

No wonder everyone thinks that G*mers are entitled crybabies


RevolutionaryLink163

Why did you censor gamer 💀


Appropriate_Bat_8403

Because it's a slur that I wouldn't use on my worst enemy


marehgul

hmm nope those who supported game since the earlie and definitely harder times were shoved saying as it is and expressing yourself is no bitchin


Appropriate_Bat_8403

Bruh I got the game during the first week and dropped it in January because it was in a horrible state and only came back properly during the class rework. No one forced you to play a piece of shit product and you are certainly not entitled to compensation lmao


Slough_Monster

He isn't saying he is entitled to it. He is saying he is entitled to same free shit that other players got due only to the fact that they play on xbox. Why do xbox players get free shit that PC players don't? We we are playing the same game. We are even on the same servers. It didn't make sense.


denartes

But it wasn't free and nobody was entitled to it. It was a promotion for game pass You still clutching those pearls lol


FrontlinerDelta

No you aren't. You purchased the product under certain conditions and terms. Then, in order to promote a new platform launch, they introduced a limited promotion for new customers on the new platform. Why the fuck do you think you would get any of that? Are you a new customer? When you purchased the game, did they "fool" you into thinking you would receive any new promotional deals? If they place Darktide on sale, are you entitled to the refund for the difference between the launch price and the sale price?


StockMarketRace

Because the people who would have gotten it didn't have to buy the game at all? First, Game pass players, not Xbox players. That includes PC. To the point, If you have or had game pass you could have been playing for free this entire time. And you could have taken the money you would have spent on it to buy in game currency. *OR* When this deal was on, you could buy the game WHICH YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO DO BECAUSE IT WAS ON GAME PASS, *FOR FREE*, but you could still BUY THE GAME AGAIN and Fatshark said "Hey, thank you for buying this game *AGAIN* when you technically already own it. Here's a gift that Microsoft paid for you to have during the negotiations of our contract" like, y'all are fucking toddlers I swear


STR_Guy

Yea, maybe not. But the timing of it all was extremely suspect. She just quietly went away at first and only chimed in after some opinions were stated. I don’t really pay attention to the discord. Seems to be a weird final interaction to just ghost the fan base when communication is your entire job.


marehgul

I still have her flavour. I meant... flair.


FrontlinerDelta

Because you \*were\* clutching your pearls. You were mad that a "launch" sale for xbox, which was a year after release on PC, included a promotion with aquilas being included. Why you thought you were entitled to a sales promotion for something you purchased a year prior is beyond me. Everyone likes to compare games to "real world products" all the time, I can't remember the last time I purchased something, then went back a year later during a promotion and demanded I be given the promotional reward... It was such an innocuous comment from that CM and everyone here acts like she shot their dog. "The pearl clutching is a bit much", ie stop being so insanely outraged. And she wasn't wrong, this sub was constantly outraged about \*everything\*.


STR_Guy

Actually I wasn’t all the things you just claimed in your novella. I was just pointing out how all that went down. I was kinda “meh” about the whole thing and just thought the response from Septicemia was an asinine move. It was unprofessional; that’s all.


VeryWeaponizedJerk

And with a bit of luck the rest of us might get a hat out of it.


Psilocybe12

Didnt you have to buy something to get the aquilas, though?


robomagician

Please don’t clutch pearls. /s


Flying_Woody

Would explain the lack of content.


WolfHeathen

Same shit we went through with V2 at launch. They all but abandoned the game content wise to work on console ports.


Slough_Monster

It happened in darktide with the xbox port. Nothing happened for al most a year.


Testabronce

Correct me if im wrong, but the game currently is only playable in PC and Xbox?


Drakith89

Yes. This would imply that they are laying the groundwork for a Playstation port. Would also fit the Fatshark order of operations. They released Vermintide 2 for PC then stuck it in stasis for months to work on a console port.


Testabronce

I mean, this is great new, i think. It implies FS are not just sleazing in their job, but preparing another console port, which means the moment it gets released more content will be added to the game, in a faster pace. Dont break my hopes


Lysanderoth42

Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment 


almo2001

As a Darktide player since the big Talent tree update, I have seen zero evidence of FS sleazing. They are very competent. If I have one complaint, it's that they release their games maybe a year or a bit more early. The core gameplay of darktide is fucking amazing, and given I haven't had to pay for any other updates or tuning or the servers, I'm very happy with it.


Sadiholic

Fr, ever since the talent tree update I learned just how hard fatshark does their updates. I mean their maps are straight up works of art, even the penance update has a whole ass UI system plus Easter eggs added in all the other maps and shit. In general I learned fatshark cooks gourmet shit all the time.


DutchMitchell

Nice to see a comment like yours. Most people here have no idea what goes on in game development.


Maverick_Walker

I’d say the only issue I have is the fucking price of shit, but I’m also so fucking happy that THAT is only the true blaring issue with Darktide.


Oddyssis

It's not. They'll release the PS5 version and then they'll have to do three versions of every update which will make the content nearly as slow as before, and who knows when that will even happen


Jaqbasd

We though that would happen after the xbox port was done, they will find another background task to eat the resources away 


Chuckdatass

Luckily this port will actually add to the population and not be a standalone experience with no Crossplay


KoboldIdra

Correct.


Jippynms

Just like the Class Overhaul patch with Xbox, they'll probably release the PS5 version along with another big update as to help with the advertising. Maybe a 5th new class?


badwin-vt

I wish...and Chaos Wastes...but prolly just the itemization update, which *will* be huge!


Coolpeeper

chaos wastes 🥺🥺🥺


Mr_Dweezil

They'd be crazy not to time a big content update alongside a new platform launch. 


Thatoneguy111700

Still holding out for a dual-wielding Beastman class.


Docklu

Why not a quad-wielding tech-priest class with mechanical arms on his back?


fieldbaker

Financially this makes sense, a lot of potential buyers. Just hope it comes with crossplay.


Professional_Hour335

Crossplay between pc, xbox, ps5 and gamepass would be amazing tbh.


kajidourden

I don't think VT2 was, but hopefully we get it here.


Chuckdatass

That was due to hardware limitations mostly. The console experience for VT2 is interesting. It’s less enemies but with more hp to compensate. Since the old gen couldn’t handle VT2 they made a special version to accommodate


kajidourden

Ah, I didn't know that! I played on PC only lol


Ricordis

I am playing with controller on PC. Now it sounds like I played voluntary on hard mode 😂


VeryWeaponizedJerk

The monkey paw furls, a PSN account is now required for everyone.


Xervous_

Aw shit here we go again


TheyMikeBeGiants

Oh man. Badwin, this is a find.


badwin-vt

There’s some other interesting stuff in the 1.4.0 code. Not sure if it’s WIP or what so not blasting it out, but there’s some new Psyker code (ex: soulblaze on *block*) that seems to suggest a minor talent rework for them.


Geek0matic

Could be linked to itemization rework, no ? They did say they'd add new blessings.


badwin-vt

Possibly! I really couldn’t say…just haven’t spent enough time in the code. Only thing I can say for sure is that they were in the file where other talents live.


Geek0matic

I could see them doing the same thing they did with the new stun maces blessings - soulblaze on a well timed block.


Armendicus

Yay more new frens!!


WhyBecauseReasons

More players is fine with me.


badwin-vt

Me too! The longer this game is supported with free updates, the longer I can go without spending a dime on video games!


Guilty-Psychology-24

I can see the shop skins, yes its overpriced as fuck but can be the main source of income for the game to pump out free content. People be complaining but its just skins, not affecting game experience in anyway. If only they can get rid of the FOMO mechanics so that new whale can buy more lol, yay content for the rest of us.


WorkingFix7523

Why "win32" when almost all PC gamers use 64 bit Windows?


PrintfDebugging

It’s just a leftover from when the OS was called win32. Software has baggage like that.


WorkingFix7523

Username checks out. Null terminated strings and all 😉


PrintfDebugging

It’s the only way! 😅


SpeakersPlan

Can someone explain this to me in simple terms? Cuz I got bo clue what this image is supposed to be telling me.


badwin-vt

There’s a bunch of brand new code as of the latest major patch for PS5.


SpeakersPlan

Ooh right thanks


GeneralJagers

About time. I bought an xbox JUST to mainly play darktide


Guilty-Psychology-24

Make an upgrade and play on PC, the mods are the big QoL improvement


crazyshellheadfan

![gif](giphy|3WCNY2RhcmnwGbKbCi) I knew it. Fatshark doesn’t stop moving


Autistic_Potato_69_

![gif](giphy|Qy2VKY3xlI1QyR6Ix5)


UnsolicitedAdvice99

This doesn't explain the lack of content to the degree so many people are indicating. The software engineers, engine programmers, guys working with Sony's API and engineers.. The people doing the heavy lifting for console porting are not the same guys making levels, balancing weapons, creating enemies and animations, etc.. I'm sure it has *some* effect on overall productivity because some of the guys doing port work are also needed to polish content, but the hit to content production is not nearly as big as a lot of these comments suggest. Now I will be positive! PS5 port = more players = more money = more support from FS!


Dolbey

Most of the more heavy stuff is definitely on the engine devs that have little to do with making new content. However things can overlap a bit. I imagine their engine is much less multi purpose than something like unity. If someone needs a new/updated feature to make a game mechanic work it could stall the development pipeline. some work definitely needs to be done by the game devs as well, maybe to accommodate for engine updates and stuff. Might not be insignificant but probably also not as much as people here make it out to be.


Tagichatn

It doesn't matter if it makes sense to you or not, VT2 players can tell you that the pc version got no substantial for a long time while the console port was being worked on. I expect darktide to be the same.


A-One-Throwaway

There are many reasons Fatshark may be slow, but \_every\_ time they tell you they are not working on a console port, they are working on a console port.


Carbone

How do you get the git diff on the code


badwin-vt

[https://github.com/Aussiemon/Darktide-Source-Code](https://github.com/Aussiemon/Darktide-Source-Code)


Carbone

Interesting thanks


Docklu

Once it comes out on PS5, hopefully we can expect more updates from the influx of players and revenue.


PrintfDebugging

I think it’s very likely that the game will come to PS5 as that makes a lot of financial sense, but I just want to caution folks that they may be working on other projects or even prototypes and this could have snuck into the engine scripts without meaning anything for this game in particular.


Dumlefudge

Given the timing (approaching 1 year since Xbox release), it seems like a case of timed exclusivity would be expiring in the coming months (most timed exclusives are a year or so, I think?)


Yellowtoblerone

I wish there was a way to turn off xplay for this game like helldivers


anime_villain69

So instead of having to wait for one console release we had to wait for two because of the microsoft gamepass deal effectively doubling the content draught lenght. I fucking hate this company sometimes for real.


ZombieTailGunner

Oh, and I was having *such* a good day... (Not a jab at console bros, a direct jab at Sony and their recent bullshit)


Dumlefudge

Called it, October 3rd, Rejects Re-Unite 😂


Hitsuguy

Would be nice if they just straight up told us, hey we are working on xyz console port, this will take time away from fixing and improving the game, we apologize for this. but they dont say shit, also we have no clue how many people are working on it ect. Could be the case that there really is just a skeleton team working on DT after it was released


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Hamerine

Of course it’s an online game


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Pygex

I voted once, I can vote again. I am doing my part!


First-Loan4154

I hope we will not need psn account becase it will lead to exterminatus of reputation... puny rest of fatshark reputation.


LickNipMcSkip

it's not a first party title, so no


Xervous_

Auric Storm Survivors Anemic Stick Strugglers so it has been foretold


DrippySkeng

If this doesn’t pay off for obese megalodon it may be too late.


gpkgpk

By the Emprah, please let us disable console cross-play (cue downvotes), there should be enough for the consolers to play with each other if PS5.


DROID17

I can finally bully ps5 players instead of only Xbox now 


xx_swegshrek_xx

Why?


Even_Map4433

Toxic PC gamers.


DROID17

I was joking with satire of a prevalent issue. It's a running gag/ real issue that Xbox players get bullied for some reason. They usually tell them "shut up xbox"


xx_swegshrek_xx

Schrödinger's asshole


NoCar4353

I hope they wait until after the crafting update and maybe the next major update after that. I think releasing the game on Gaystation would help expand the player base like it did with XCocks, but we really need the player retention. Really wanna see this game with more active players. Plus, seeing brand new players is always nice.


Asayel404

Instead of bootlicking ungrateful sony just concentrate on other aspects of the game. If you need more player just make the game actually bug free.. Hey maybe even add native Linux support. Still better than Sony and their corpo shit.