Carnotaurus is one of the few theropods of which skin impressions have been preserved, which is why we know that this species at least was not covered in feathers
Along with skin impressions on the side of the animal, soft tissue impressions on the head were initially reported. But were destroyed when excavating the skull.
This has caused nearly every paleontologist in the world to suffer a migraine the first time they heard about it.
He simply chiseled anything away that wasn't bone. The scull was embedded in a stone matrix that (judging from photographs) some believed was fossilized soft tissue, but we'll never know because all of it got removed
Just like it’s very rare that skin is preserved, it’s also rare to find preserved feathers. Some claim that feathers should preserve if skin is found, but I’m not sure if there are good studies that might refute this assumption/hypothesis.
Don't quote me on this one, but I remember seeing palaeoartist Brian Engh sharing some info about modern birds losing their feathers during the process of being washed away by a current or sediment (which a very common way of getting fossils). So although getting non-feathered impressions is a direct evidence for that animal not to have feathers, we can't 100% discard that.
According to Engh and his Twitter thread.
Because 1. people seem to reject feathers as soon as possible in everything by raptors and very close relatives and 2. “Feathers and scales can’t go exists” which is nonsense regardless.
They have tiny arms but huge ball socketed shoulders, which means they could probably swing their tiny arms with a pretty wide range of motion and with a reasonable amount of force
Contrary to popular belief the horns and skull were too weak for fighting so to fight other Carnos for territory or females they used their tiny arms to slap each other. Source: It would be funny
This is why Prehistoric Planet went with attracting a mate.
They're basically useless, but incredibly mobile at the shoulder joints. So some form of display dance is the only reasonable explanation.
I wonder if there were any impressions of the forelegs. Considering how tiny yet robust the shoulders were, a feathered display would be understandable.
there are pretty good skin impressions on carnotaurus, and I don't think they found any evidence of feathering. but a display structure of some kind (even just bright colors) is still very possible
Strangely enough, I'm not hungry and i just got home from work, 2 hours ago which is weird because, I'm typically hungry after work... This has nothing to do with the Carnataurus. I just felt like sharing 😶👍
It was very, very specialized for running quickly, with massive caudofemoralis muscles (relative to body size, the largest on any animal with this particular set of muscles), a build where the hindquarters were disproportionately heavily built compared to the forequarters (so that the front was streamlined while the rear contained plenty of space for locomotor musculature), and-based on other South American abelisaurs-relatively long, lanky hindlimbs.
For an animal of its size it was very fast and could likely run at over 50kmh (possibly close to 60kmh), which is as fast as various living mammalian predators like the *Panthera* big cats (and faster than some, such as most mustelids or the most reliable speed estimates for bears) in spite of being a much larger animal at over one and a half tons.
That said, it was probably more of an ambush predator that relied on rapid bursts of speed than pursuit predator given its size and abysmal turning radius
I've told my wife I'm going to get two sausages, we'll done along the top and pale underneath and try recreating the dance to see if it does anything for her.
I'm from argentina and since a little kid i watch its skeleton at the museum and think how weirdly proportioned it is.
The legs are insanely long and the skull really short for its body length. My favourite dino
Sadly, they were not. Their inability to become forklift certified prevented them from progressing in their careers which ultimately led to their extinction while raptors thrived due to their intelligence and ability to do more tasks
This is the one large bodied theropod where we are certain that it was entirely scaly, to believe that this one had feathers one would have to be a member of a cult.
Technically, since don’t have the entire surface of the animal, or every growth stage for that matter, we can’t say for certain that they didn’t have feathers, just that it very very likely that they didn’t have them.
Carnotaurus started out as a fake dinosaur. There was a paper published by a student at the University of Camden in 1984 detailing a dinosaur he called the Carnotaurus. He had supposed records of fossils and where he found them. When he earned a grant to excavate for a Carnotaurus, he knew he had dug himself into a hole, but accepted it anyway. Luckily, a real Carnotaurus with very similar bone structures to his false records was discovered at the site he was excavating. His previous record was deemed false when the full skeleton was excavated, noted by the amount of bones in its spinal column. His had too many, being 34. Scientist now count the bones of all Carnotaurus records to ensure that they are real. To find out more, look up Carnotaurus Rule 34
Despite having a very short arms they were suprisinly quite mobile due to them being connect by a boll socket joint that enables the animal to movie arms up and down if it wanted to
I think it was stated that just by looking at its body layout it was among the fastest bigger carnivorous dinosaurs. Like I’m pretty sure it’s definitely reaching speeds of up 20+ miles per hour. So it’d probably catch you. You’d either get struck pretty hard with a massive head butt, or a painful jaw clamp while getting slammed to the floor and eaten alive 🙂
Another point about its arms is that the whole arm was fused and could not bend at the elbow.
It's hypothesized that it's horns were for mating displays. There's a photo floating around of the original dig showing the skull before it was "prepared" giving us a potential look at what the horns would have looked like with a cerantinous sheath.
Lacking the bite force of tyrannosaurs it probably used its mouth like allosaurus (hatchet swings) to take down prey.
Let me know if there's any new info or corrections to what I posted.
As famous as the creature is, we only have one specimen of the animal.
It's also one of the largest abelisaurids to date and was one of the last members of its family.
It’s very common for them to be depicted with very organized rows of bumps running along their back when in reality they where in a seemingly randomized pattern throughout entire body.
It’s name means Meat-eating-bull, and I can’t think of a better fitting name for a dinosaur. (Ok except for maybe Megalosaurus but that’s just not fair)
Carnotaurus is one of the few theropods of which skin impressions have been preserved, which is why we know that this species at least was not covered in feathers
Along with skin impressions on the side of the animal, soft tissue impressions on the head were initially reported. But were destroyed when excavating the skull. This has caused nearly every paleontologist in the world to suffer a migraine the first time they heard about it.
The paleontologist responsible for that was José Fernando Bonaparte. His rather radical excavation method earned him the nickname Bone-apart.
What was his radical excavation methods? A jackhammer?
He simply chiseled anything away that wasn't bone. The scull was embedded in a stone matrix that (judging from photographs) some believed was fossilized soft tissue, but we'll never know because all of it got removed
So basically yes, a jackhammer
As an aspiring paleontologist, this hurt my soul…
As a Dinosaur enthusiast, that seriously breaks my heart.
Probably
That nickname was coming regardless of what he did
Learning that the head impressions were destroyed just pissed me off
Not covered in feathers, as far as we know >:)
Just like it’s very rare that skin is preserved, it’s also rare to find preserved feathers. Some claim that feathers should preserve if skin is found, but I’m not sure if there are good studies that might refute this assumption/hypothesis.
Don't quote me on this one, but I remember seeing palaeoartist Brian Engh sharing some info about modern birds losing their feathers during the process of being washed away by a current or sediment (which a very common way of getting fossils). So although getting non-feathered impressions is a direct evidence for that animal not to have feathers, we can't 100% discard that. According to Engh and his Twitter thread.
Makes some sense to me
Because 1. people seem to reject feathers as soon as possible in everything by raptors and very close relatives and 2. “Feathers and scales can’t go exists” which is nonsense regardless.
They have tiny arms but huge ball socketed shoulders, which means they could probably swing their tiny arms with a pretty wide range of motion and with a reasonable amount of force
Contrary to popular belief the horns and skull were too weak for fighting so to fight other Carnos for territory or females they used their tiny arms to slap each other. Source: It would be funny
I’m struggling to see the utility in this or get past how absolutely absurd it would look doing windmills with those tiny arms
This is why Prehistoric Planet went with attracting a mate. They're basically useless, but incredibly mobile at the shoulder joints. So some form of display dance is the only reasonable explanation.
That scene is one of the best scenes in TV history and I will die on that hill. Lol.
I prefer the t-rex kiss but arright
now i can see a carnotaurus doing the gritty💀
I wonder if there were any impressions of the forelegs. Considering how tiny yet robust the shoulders were, a feathered display would be understandable.
there are pretty good skin impressions on carnotaurus, and I don't think they found any evidence of feathering. but a display structure of some kind (even just bright colors) is still very possible
The Movie Dinosaur (2000) gave us one of Carnotaurus' Coolest most terrifying designs It's Name Means Meat Eating Bull
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And Dinosaur King gave us a sonic OC
And Liver King gave us cancer.
And Dinosaur King gave us a sonic OC
Dementia
And he got rejected. Damn you Darren Naish :C
They were also extremely oversized lol
Yeah,probably because the carno was initially supposed to be a trex
I think those things were too big to even be Trex.
Carnotaurus was also very fast and likely had a great bite force and they used their horns for intimidation and mating instead of hunting.
That film was originally going to have rexes instead but they changed it which is why the carnos are oversized
Its closest living relative is the bratwurst.
>bratwurst I googled it and now I am hungry :(
I’m German. No need to google. Now I’m hungry.
I'm also hungry. Granted, I was hungry before all this talk about carno-wurst, but still.
Sadly for you, I have chili cheese flavored bratwursts in my fridge >:) and I can eat them when I want
Strangely enough, I'm not hungry and i just got home from work, 2 hours ago which is weird because, I'm typically hungry after work... This has nothing to do with the Carnataurus. I just felt like sharing 😶👍
It's tail is almost never depicted wide enough in paleoart. It needs to extend out past the hips for the muscles to attach to the leg bones.
Because it was a dedicated pursuit-hunting specialist and needed all the leg muscles for speed.
do you mean the tail doesn't need to be depicted that wide, or are you just agreeing?
Agreeing.
Carnotaurus was born to *run*
do you have any links to images that depict the tail accurately i tried googling it and i don’t really know what im looking at
The prehistoric planet carno has an accurate tail. There's a lot of speculation in that segment, but the tail is good.
It was very, very specialized for running quickly, with massive caudofemoralis muscles (relative to body size, the largest on any animal with this particular set of muscles), a build where the hindquarters were disproportionately heavily built compared to the forequarters (so that the front was streamlined while the rear contained plenty of space for locomotor musculature), and-based on other South American abelisaurs-relatively long, lanky hindlimbs. For an animal of its size it was very fast and could likely run at over 50kmh (possibly close to 60kmh), which is as fast as various living mammalian predators like the *Panthera* big cats (and faster than some, such as most mustelids or the most reliable speed estimates for bears) in spite of being a much larger animal at over one and a half tons.
That said, it was probably more of an ambush predator that relied on rapid bursts of speed than pursuit predator given its size and abysmal turning radius
This was because it is thought to mainly be an ambush hunter that would chase its prey, right?
I mean he Naruto runs by default, so he's obviously fast.
They are really good tap dancers, we had one at our 8th grade talent show.
According to Prehistoric Planet, they had the best dance moves out of everybody during the Cretaceous.
I've told my wife I'm going to get two sausages, we'll done along the top and pale underneath and try recreating the dance to see if it does anything for her.
Make sure they're blue. If not it might not work.
There's only one extremely well pressured specimen, which is cool because we know so much about this animal from one specimen.
Underrated comment. That is such a crazy cool fact.
Agreed!
I'm from argentina and since a little kid i watch its skeleton at the museum and think how weirdly proportioned it is. The legs are insanely long and the skull really short for its body length. My favourite dino
They’re the only dinosaur that can Naruto run.
You just gotta search up Majungasauras and Rugops now-
And every other abelisaurid.
You mean “carno run” since they did it first
Carnotaurus and other abelisaurids were running with their hands behind their backs millions of years before anime made it cool.
Not a fact, but I wish it would be one. I like imagine them ostrich/emu/secretary bird stomping shit to death.
Lmao 🤣
They all have unspoken rizz
I was tempted by one and now I am dating one. She is a bit shy but I love her.
Carnotaurus dont know how to buy/sell bitcoin
whaatt no buttcoin for carno?
but I think he got some Dogecoin instead, I guess he follows Musk
Well no wonder they're extinct.
Did you know that they also don’t know how to operate a crane?
no wonder they go extinct. were they at least forklift certified?
Sadly, they were not. Their inability to become forklift certified prevented them from progressing in their careers which ultimately led to their extinction while raptors thrived due to their intelligence and ability to do more tasks
This is the one large bodied theropod where we are certain that it was entirely scaly, to believe that this one had feathers one would have to be a member of a cult.
Technically, since don’t have the entire surface of the animal, or every growth stage for that matter, we can’t say for certain that they didn’t have feathers, just that it very very likely that they didn’t have them.
Carnotaurus started out as a fake dinosaur. There was a paper published by a student at the University of Camden in 1984 detailing a dinosaur he called the Carnotaurus. He had supposed records of fossils and where he found them. When he earned a grant to excavate for a Carnotaurus, he knew he had dug himself into a hole, but accepted it anyway. Luckily, a real Carnotaurus with very similar bone structures to his false records was discovered at the site he was excavating. His previous record was deemed false when the full skeleton was excavated, noted by the amount of bones in its spinal column. His had too many, being 34. Scientist now count the bones of all Carnotaurus records to ensure that they are real. To find out more, look up Carnotaurus Rule 34
It is rapidly approaching your home.
They envied T-Rex’s arms
It was almost in Jurassic Park 3.
They found it difficult to take sharp turns while running
The break-up of The Beatles is closer in time to the death of the last Carnotaurus, than Carnotaurus is to Allosaurus.
Wittle arms that like to wiggle
https://www.deviantart.com/isismasshiro/art/Secret-of-the-arms-865575367
Despite having a very short arms they were suprisinly quite mobile due to them being connect by a boll socket joint that enables the animal to movie arms up and down if it wanted to
What *aren't* some cool fact about Carnotaurus? These things were rad as hell.
It is a distant relative of of Pickle, aka Deviljho, which is well know for its vicious nature and powerful jaw.
He is a handsome young man who would like to come for a sleepover this weekend:)
I think it was stated that just by looking at its body layout it was among the fastest bigger carnivorous dinosaurs. Like I’m pretty sure it’s definitely reaching speeds of up 20+ miles per hour. So it’d probably catch you. You’d either get struck pretty hard with a massive head butt, or a painful jaw clamp while getting slammed to the floor and eaten alive 🙂
Another point about its arms is that the whole arm was fused and could not bend at the elbow. It's hypothesized that it's horns were for mating displays. There's a photo floating around of the original dig showing the skull before it was "prepared" giving us a potential look at what the horns would have looked like with a cerantinous sheath. Lacking the bite force of tyrannosaurs it probably used its mouth like allosaurus (hatchet swings) to take down prey. Let me know if there's any new info or corrections to what I posted.
The whole Hatchet mouth theory has long been debunked, but that doesn't mean Allosaurus or Carnotaurus didn't have sharp teeth.
Thanks for the update!
Carnotaurus is in fact a feisty sausage with legs.
Only one nearly perfectly preserved specimen exists, and we know more about it than most other abeliosaurs
Not exactly perfect, but pretty freaking good
He fast as fuck BOI
some scientists concluded that it could run up to speeds of 50 kilometres per hour, which is frightening since it was over 1.5 metric tons
His ahms is so smaw
Every toy manufacturer has top not commitment to portraying its dumb little hands
In the game ARK: Survival Evolved they are very mean :(
It floats across the land like a graceful ballerina, at least judging by this photo.
They’re sad that they can’t give their loved ones a hug :(
Teeny tiny baby arms
He got no b*****’s in Prehistoric Planet
It is an angry sausage with legs, teeth ,horns AND a tail!
He arms smol
As famous as the creature is, we only have one specimen of the animal. It's also one of the largest abelisaurids to date and was one of the last members of its family.
Apparently they used their arms and wiggled them in a dance to attract mates. Source: Prehistoric Planet 😂
I think prehistoric planet took a lot of artistic liberty xD
It probably tastes like chicken.
They were one of, if not the fastest therapod Dinosaurs.
They're all dead
Hansome
They just want to give you a hug, but they can’t. They just can’t.
So they use their teeth instead
It’s very common for them to be depicted with very organized rows of bumps running along their back when in reality they where in a seemingly randomized pattern throughout entire body.
This dinosaur is *so* metal
It seems it doesn't like cars. Hence the name
Carnotairus had a very disappointing set of chicken wings.
They where always naruto running.
He peed standing up.
No bitches.
It looks like a chicken
Chicken sausage
I feel like if I had a pup Carno it could be trained like a horse and its arms could hold my legs in the saddle …… 🤯
Their arms weird me out ;-;
Why does this design look like a banana?
You desire bananas
Some say that it had advanced active-camouflage capabilities. 😏
Its name means “Meat eating bull.” It also could make quick bites but not powerful bites like other theropods could.
s t u b b y
Cool fact: the image used here makes it look really derpy, imagine a creature who's default existence is Naruto running
I think you'll find Naruto Carnotaurus runs
Only one has ever been found and yet we know so much about them.
They can’t clap
It’s my Favorite Dinosaur
He is my friend.
They are silly little guys
it’s a dinosaur
It’s name means Meat-eating-bull, and I can’t think of a better fitting name for a dinosaur. (Ok except for maybe Megalosaurus but that’s just not fair)
they have tiny arms
You can bake it's arms at 375 for about and hour and a half to make an easy dinner for the family. Don't forget the the wing sauce!
Their lower jaws have mechanisms that allow them to swallow larger chunks of meat or smaller prey items whole. Like a snake
it’s one of the fastest non Ornithomimosaur theropod
Carnotaurus is scientifically, the best dinosaur (sources: me)
They were shit at doing both pull ups and push ups
It’s secretly a sausage
He likes toast.
It uses its head like a bull when ramming
Sosige :)
It’s a torpedo with legs look at those tiny arms nature was especially cruel that day 😂
Looks like a parrot for one
Speed demon with nugget arms and eats its own kind
This is the dinosaur i struggle to believe existed. Why does it look like that theres got to be a misunderstanding
The arms are thought to have had a role in mating-dances. Which I think is hilarious
I like that this fact is contradicted by the one directly above it xD
The arms of the carnotaurus are immobile and it's thought that if it lived to today it wouldn't have arms
As the name suggests, it’s not a car
Beacuse of its horns, it was named Carnotaurus, Carnotaurus means meat eating bull
fun carno fact: they existed at some point in Earth's history! also, I read somewhere that their skin is akin to a modern ostrich?
he's a horny sausage (this is a joke btw)
Males had the best rizz, but females were usually too dumb to accept
Bro built like a baked bean
If carnotaurus had been around longer it would’ve eventually lossed its arms entirely, since it relied on its jaws for hunting and defense
They could not ride a bicycle 😔
Its chubbiness and skin impressions
It’s just a silly lil guy
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