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Alex__007

Nothing is worth it in a vacuum, everything is situational. * Does your scoring depend on your Farseer surviving an extra turn? Then put it in, 10 pts more compared with previous version is 0.005 of your list. * Do you find yourself rarely using it, i.e. running out of Fate Dice and losing Avatar before your Farseer is removed? Then drop it.


manitario

Thanks, this makes sense. Part of my decision paralysis is that I didn’t take a farseer or the avatar before the January dataslate update; I only have 9 games in since then, so really not enough to make an evidence-based decision. I think I’ll probably drop Illic and a squad of rangers for scorpions and the gem plus fates messenger on the autarch Wayleaper. I spend way too much time overthinking my lists when probably my lists have less to do with my losses than my (lack of) skill in using them.


terrorbyte66

Can't use two enhancements on one character, unfortunately.


manitario

Sorry, meant the gem on a farseer and fate’s messenger on the autarch. I wish we could take more than one on a character!


Alex__007

Yep, experience trumps minor list differences any time! Good luck!


hoiuang

If you’re fielding a single Farseer alone, yes still worth it. With a Phoenix Gem, your opponent normally won’t waste their indirect fire on the Farseer. If you’re bringing guardians, maybe better just save the points.


MLantto

I don't think it's worth it on a farseer. It's not valuable enough in enough matchups. Though to be fair I didn't use it for that at 25 points either. I think you can often just hide the farseer for the first few turns. On a wayleaper I still think it's worth the points. It opens up a whole new avenue to play for primary and if it gives you another 5 points of scoring in a game it'd be worth even more than 35 points imo.