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Vioven

Super Mutant Thaddeus please. That type of comic relief in a super mutants body would be something else.


BartholomewAlexander

yes omg, I really wanna see jacobstown in the next season and this is the perfect way to introduce it. have the super mutants watching him from ridges and far away, and he slowly starts turning, until he passes out and wakes up a full super mutant in jacobstown.


Vioven

It would be so good! There’s so much potential here!


SKellach

Isn’t he turning into a ghoul though?


Vioven

Couldn’t say. There was a drug in 4 that was “one of a kind” that Hancock used to punish himself and go ghoul. It could be that. But the wikis state fev can be in aerosol form and we already have a main ghoul character and other ghouls, it’d be redundant to add another. (Maximus said he was a ghoul but that can be just assumptions.) Whereas a supermutant is something new and pretty damn cool.


Fernandezo2299

If he is Turing into a ghoul should have been immediately. In turns of Fallout logic the chicken guy might actually found a serum for the super soldier.


CIunky_

ive been thinking about it and seeing marcus as teh first super mutant would be really nice


Big-Leadership1001

He would be second, there was a supermutant under a sheet on a gurney at the lab where they made Dogmeat


madtownmugen

I personally was thinking Glowing One.


DaManWithNoName

Yeah as soon as his foot healed my mind went to FEV


GUNS_N_BROSES

That’s exactly what I was thinking, I was disappointed when they said he was a Ghoul


heartbrokenneedmemes

keep in mind that maximus is running a 1 intelligence build and can easily be very wrong


46thAndTABBY

Sometimes when guys get near a woman their pimple gets hard and explodes; doesn't happen to him, but it happens to some guys.


IIRiffasII

that's what I thought too... Maximus and Lucy saying he was ghoulifying must have been a misdirect


Miserable-Caramel316

I'd love to see him lead remnants of the masters army in an attack on the BOS


TheDarkLord566

Considering he was loyal to a fault to the Brotherhood, and it's been like 140 years since the Master even attacked, I think you'll have to keep dreaming.


Miserable-Caramel316

Well maybe he creates his own army, with blackjack and hookers!


QTShenanigans

In fact, forget the army!


Justintime4u2bu1

NCR didn’t even exist concurrently with the Master. Sad about no super mutants showing up in S1 tho :(


SlimySteve2339

Pretty sure we at least get to see the body of one


Ferdinandofthedogs

Where?


SlimySteve2339

In the enclave base when the doc is leaving, you get to see its foot or hand or something. But it’s pretty obviously a super mutant


Oaks777

Yeah, you can see a hand slip out from underneath a blanket, the body is on a gurney covered up.


DarthAbraxis

Can’t remember what ep. Maybe 7 but there’s a picture of a super mutant head on a sign.


Ferdinandofthedogs

You can see a bounty poster with a super mutant in the Governmint


Woffingshire

He will absolutely be back. You don't show a recurring character take a mystery drug that means they can no longer die and then let them run off into the wastes to never be seen again.


Alec_Nimitz

same for the chicken effer, he will be in vegas with that fusion core


archon_aspect

Damn I never thought of this. Of course he'd gamble that fortune!


HaloDeckJizzMopper

Vegas is going to need cold fusion asap but for now they probably run the whole place on fusion cores


Stoly23

….that’s assuming any of the casinos are still functioning. Aside from the Lucky 38 they’re all looking pretty rough.


GadflytheGobbo

That's Dr. Chicken Effer to you, buddy. 


amishlightening

Most terrifying scenario is he finds Max's power armor.


ThatFuckingGeniusKid

Think about how many chickens he could fuck, he'd be unstoppable


xMyDixieWreckedx

Power thrusting as well. Never get fatigued and just fuck all day. That codpiece is going to need cleaning again again.


zeroThreeSix

Chekhov's ghoul.


bjeebus

Lol. Chekhov's chicken fucker!


Khamvom

Lucy: “This is good no? The Brotherhood is the good guys?” Thaddeus: “Ugh, it’s a complicated organization.” I freakin lost it 😂


VonDukez

Dude has high endurance, but if fallout characters could have wisdom at all, he would have middle of the road 5 he understands the brotherhood is a bit iffy he let a doctor he was gonna shoot inject him with stuff


NotThatValleyGirl

"I knew I shouldn't have trusted a doctor that smelled like that!"


bjeebus

I knew I shouldn't have trusted a doctor that smells like a chicken-fucker...


Theban_Prince

>he let a doctor he was gonna shoot inject him with stuff I mean, what other option he had?


VonDukez

threaten to shoot the doctor after


Pilfering_Pied_Piper

In a way you can say it even paid off, considering what happens at the stand off at the radio tower.


Modest_Lion

Dude is the protagonist. Just barely passed the charisma check with fred arminsen and then made the flaw of not carrying light step. Every line and delivery feels like me talking to my self while playing fallout


BadJokeJudge

Dude you don’t have a choice when you’re dying. You’re either dead or you’re something else, he chose something else. Also he couldn’t tell he was a ghoul; he’s fine for a while.


Fr0ski

He also had enough wisdom to rip out the power core on the T60


VonDukez

Intelligence stat at least a 5


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Sad-Recognition1798

Says right here


straight_lurkin

Goosy*


he-is-Taurus69

Goosey**


The_One_Koi

Goosey if you're gonna trust the subs


[deleted]

At least he’s honest ya know


Ok-Internet-6881

Have to give Thaddeus credit for being committed to the cause knowing what type of org BoS is


Mrtayto115

Thaddeus and Chet were great


faithfulswine

Glad to see some Chet love. Absolutely loved his character


Mrtayto115

The faces he makes are so spot on NPC like


AtheismoAlmighty

I said it in another thread but I got a lot of Ryan Reynolds vibes from his mannerisms/delivery.


meat_rock

Such a great pairing with no-emotion Norm too.


ThatFuckingGeniusKid

I loved their dynamic, Norm trying to find out what's wrong with the vaults while Chet pretends everything is all right, but he still helps Norm cause they're best friends


SpamAdBot91874

Chet made me lol but it really hit when he said "We're all cowards. That's why we live in a vault." Really self-aware and resigned to his fate in a sad way.


_dontjimthecamera

That moment with Chet and Thaddeus talking about bullying Maximus were highlights for me. Even the comic relief-esque characters got moments to evoke ethos.


faithfulswine

Self-aware NPC's are something else. His actor does a really good job with the screen time he has imo


VonDukez

the show had great supporting characters.


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I think Maximus called him a ghoul because he doesn't know any better. At this point Super Mutants are not frequent. Also Ghoul's finger did not regenerate when it got bitten off. I'm fairly certain that Thaddeus got injected with FEV. Edit: Also I think it would be a missed opportunity not to have him as a super mutant. We saw several ghouls, it wouldn't be anything new. And the remark of the Snake oil salesmen was kind of on the nose, sounded very ominous. I'm sure the writers were vague about this for a reason. And thet must know it would be disappointing to just make him a ghoul.


BartholomewAlexander

I didn't even think about that, I think you're right.


LtColonelColon1

There is a difference between healing a wound and regenerating a limb! The Ghoul is seen to be shot multiple times and just walks it off.


lilkrickets

Don’t ghouls also heal if they are irradiated?


LtColonelColon1

Yep!


Objective_Look_5867

Yes and thaddeus was near and walking towards the shithole. He had plenty of rads to keep him healing


[deleted]

You also saw how his foot healed. It wasn't just "healing a wound". In an instant the mangled, necrotic flesh regenerated, bones went back into their place.


Lazerhawk_x

Yeah i'm rather hoping they dont play into Tenpennys propaganda where Ghouls=zombies.


starry101

When he was shot with the arrow he didn’t bleed which seems more consistent with a ghoul? I think Super Mutants still bleed?


Apoc_au

\+1. We know the FEV exists. I'm not sure if there's been an injection to turn people into ghouls. When I saw his foot turn, I was sure he's going to become a Super Mutant. Before his foot changed, I was 100% sure he swallowed a vial of piss from a crazy guy.


Veebsa

I think you mean chicken molester.


rulerBob8

*Attempted* chicken molester.


bjeebus

Not according to the dirt farmer. He didn't say _trying_ to fuck my chickens, he said he _was_ fucking my chickens.


RedVenomxz

At least it wasn’t an ostrich.


mrdwarf13

Allegedly


Competitive_Fee_5829

DR chicken molester to you! he is a learned Dr and scholar.....and chicken fucker


BasedMarxBoi

I don’t know if it was an injection necessarily, but a drug is what made Hancock a Ghoul in Fallout 4.


Apoc_au

oHh so there is a ghoul creating drug. From one of the Wiki's, in Hancock's dialogue he says he took the last one though. Entirely possible there could be more out there, who knows what wacky stuff the chicken lover found or created.


Its0nlyRocketScience

The last one on the east coast maybe. Strange prewar tech rarely only exists in one place


Vmagnum

Exactly. How would he know with 100% certainty that his was the last one. This is where a lot of people get confused on things like this, just because a character says something it doesn’t mean it is accurate. The unreliable narrator is definitely a thing.


SimplyPassinThrough

I also genuinely thought it was piss 💀


N00BAL0T

FEV mutations are not consistent. The master became a flesh monster while Harold grew a tree so it could totally be FEV.


DoctorMobius21

Maybe that stuff he drank is something new that will be coming out in the next fallout game? Maybe a new version of FEV created by the scientist from the institute in 4? A newer version of FEV that lacks all the issues with the older versions?


s1lentchaos

I was thinking perhaps it's just a stimpack deconstructed but then we see his skin turn a bit weird after the arrow to the neck.


EnergyTakerLad

This, the scarring from that wound made it feel more super mutanty than ghoully


N00BAL0T

Imo I think it's just a radioactive concoction and it did just make him a ghoul and is nothing special.


ninjamaster616

Homemade jet recipe


memo689

Yes and not exaclty, Harold and the master took huge amounts of FEV, the master taking way more than Harold, and it was more like a green goo (Maybe he will respect that fact later on). First supermutnats, the intelligent ones were not affected by radiation when they were humans as the ones created from vault dwellers, but super mutants created from surface dwellers tend to be dumb due to radiation exposure. To be created they dip them into the FEV, and they emerge already green and transformed, but in the case of Thaddeus, he was injected with a small amount, and I will be speculating but it may be diluted with some other substance or water or piss, and that will explain why it is a yellowy water. I assume it will slowly turn into a super mutant later on. Also as we see in some vaults in FO3 where supermutans were also created, we see a lot of failed mutations, also the ones created in the east coast are more yellow tinted, if I remember well, it is because it was a slightly different version of FEV. So that validates your point too.


N00BAL0T

We know FEV has multiple different effects and isn't always just super mutants but centaurs, snallygasters and I'm also guessing west coast gulpers.


gentlybeepingheart

I do think it would be funny if the Snake Oil Salesman did somehow get FEV and he's stretching it out by watering it down with his own piss so he can sell more of it.


Apoordm

Yeah Ghouls don’t have super healing factor unless they’re standing in the kind of radiation that would have killed Lucy, Max, and Fred Armesin


fuckledditsmodz

> Lucy, Max, and Fred Armesin lol I dunno why I found it funny that you said it this way


Left4DayZGone

Thaddeus completed Moira's quest and got the Rad Regeneration perk. The doctor just dosed him with the 600+ rads required to trigger limb regeneration.


FlacidWizardsStaff

I think the only super mutant we saw was a corpse at the enclave?


slappy47

Low Intelligence/ high perception and strength


RonaldWRailgun

Yeah, I agree, besides from a meta-story perspective, we already have a very cool Ghoul, it would make sense to introduce another creature in the mix. I also don't think, lore wise, that ghouls are created by injecting serums, super mutants are. Of course, this can be changed if the writers want to, but I feel like we're not going to see another "famous" ghouls here, the setup is too perfect for a super mutant.


Gabba_Goblin

Didn't Eddi Winter turned himself into a Ghoul by injection of rad material?


Brltpzx

I mean, while uncommon sure, Hancock became a ghoul from taking an experimental chem, so there is precedent for it happening.


Reddvox

This - another Ghoul, not likely. But an already known character making a surprise return, but he slowly and horribly turns into a hulking orcish super mutant? PErfect to introduce THIS aspect of the world to an audience.


pastrami_on_ass

yeah theyre deff not common in the area of the show so far, only saw one and it was dead and the enclave had it.


Kagamid

Bring him back as a super mutant. Funny how he was probably the most competent soldier in the series. Maximus looked like a moron in comparison.


MaxTheEighth

But isnt he already a ghoul or something? I dont think that FEV and ghouls mix well.


Miserable-Caramel316

Not exactly clear. The stuff the snake oil salesman gave him might have been FEV and he will gradually turn into a super mutant.


marlborohunnids

maybe it was the mysterious serum that the cabot family uses


tedward_420

That's a bit of a stretch. Especially since that guy appears to be a nobody it was probably more similar to the radiation drug that Hancock took


The_4th_Little_Pig

He did mention that he’d never have to worry about radiation again. Can only mean he’s a super mutant or a ghoul unless they create a third radiation resistant humanoid for the show.


tedward_420

I mean the cabet family stuff does make you effectively immune to radiation. But again while I would love more lore regarding that I highly doubt that's what's going on here


MaidenHe4v3n

Omg yes that’s what I was thinking too.


Lyndell

I would like to know why Moldaver wasn’t dead after 200 years or a ghoul.


do_not_the_cat

because she too was in cryo stasis


Lyndell

Why though? She didn’t seem to work for Vault-Tec, she could have, she did say they bought up her work. She could have still been working on it with them I suppose.


Dat_Porkchop

That's Dr.Chicken-Fucker to you.


MaxTheEighth

What if he just gave him a strong version of Bitter drink? That would be very anticlimactic tho.


Mercurionio

Hancock took the same stuff it seems


SettingArtistic1056

Oh man you just know this guy has the comedic chops to make his transition to ghoul all kinds of fun next season if the writers go that way.


A1000eisn1

I can't wait for a scene where his nose falls off.


giantpunda

Maximus says that he could be a ghoul but even he's not so sure himself. Also ghouls don't seem to heal like that if the encounter at the SuperDuper mart is anything to go by. I get the sense that either this is a reference to Fallout 76 mutation serums (specifically Healing Factor) or perhaps it's some variant of FEV or something totally different for the show. We'll have to see some Season 2 but I'm pretty sure given the reception of his character that we'll be seeing him again.


HistoricalSilver8880

>I get the sense that either this is a reference to Fallout 76 mutation serums (specifically Healing Factor) or perhaps it's some variant of FEV or something totally different for the show. This is the first piece of media post 76. I am very curious if they will establish what happened to West Virginia. What the collective player community got up to kinda became semi-canon in it's own game. I wouldn't be surprised if Serums happened slip into the wasteland. Better yet; I wonder if West Virginia became a utopian society after the Vault Dwellers became a nuclear superpower. Because wuite frankly, the 76 dwellers had enough firepower to glass the last of the United States


Theban_Prince

>Because wuite frankly, the 76 dwellers had enough firepower to glass the last of the United States Or you now, what is left of West Virginia. Because a bunch of murderhobos having the keys to nuclear missiles will always end well...


Lichruler

Which interestingly, was the experiment of vault 76.. What would happen if you gave the “best and brightest” access to automated nuclear silos?


giantpunda

There's a lot of time between the events of Fallout 76 and the TV show. Anything could be justified. That's assuming I'm even right about what I said. Just seems to make sense to me is all.


Chimpville

Except he shoots like he has his eyes in backwards


SimonShepherd

I mean Max is a way better shot than him.


Other-Success-2060

Yes to super mutant 👍 thought he was good too…. Regarding competency did you see him empty a whole mag into thin air? N.b. Very lore accurate in trying to hit anything early game without VATS but still I can’t call him a competent soldier.


Salty_Candidate_6216

>Maximus looked like a moron in comparison. After having finished the series; I don't think Maximus is dumb at all. I think he makes rash decisions, out of panic/fear of punishment, but I definitely feel that he demonstrated he wasn't naive, but he also learned that kindness does exist. He certainly knows enough to realise that you can't stand on principle, if you're surrounded by overwhelming force. I think he's a reasonably cluey guy, who made rash decisions in the start.


Theban_Prince

He left his power armor in the middle of a raider infested shithole and went shopping...


_BestBudz

I left my power armor outside the nukaworld market before open season (for more of a challenge) and after I finished killing the operators I started working on the raiders outside when I saw one charging at me in MY power armor. I was level 89. I definitely should know better lmao


whovegas

Maximus was literally pulling all the same moves I did during the game at the start. None of this cool "I'm an unstoppable ghoul" shit. And if Titus was talking to me like that I would've left him to die too...maximus is literally me


dane83

When Titus yelled "Oh shit, a bear!" I felt seen as a Fallout player.


God_Damnit_Nappa

"FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK" is definitely how I reacted the first time I saw a Yao Guai. 


TheBlueBerry999

To be honest after I saw him squire I wasn’t surprised why Titus called Max the “worst squire ever”


Ashamed-Library4902

I love it though. That's just how Fallout world works and lore accurate where everything is unpredictable, humourous, incompetent, gory and weird crap. I can tell all the main character is us when we play the games in our own respective role.


GraveRobberX

The best part is all of us deducing where the points are invested in S.P.E.C.I.A.L. on the characters. Lucy Goosey is full Luck +10 build.


Traditional_West85

He looked because he wws


pobodys-nerfect5

They’re 100% making Michael Rappaport the first super mutant


s1lentchaos

Competent? This verified shitter mag dumped from like 50 odd feet and completely whiffed while they stood still.


treegor

Still refuse to believe the actor is in his 40’s.


Scisir

what the fuck


effinandy

Damn all the initiates are on that midlife crisis job retraining kick.


Great_expansion10272

This guy looks like a 17 year old more than most 17 year olds i've seen


Wonderbread421

He plays a 17 year old in the show “Super Store”, makes me happy to see him in more serious role


wookieetamer

Whamwhawhawhawhaaaa. Or whatever he tells in that show always cracks me up.


Dismal-Infection

WHAT??!!


Hoss-BonaventureCEO

Yeah, I looked him up the other day and was shocked when I saw his age.


EveryOtherHipster

BO! He’s great in the series Superstore.


MicahLacroix

Cheyenne is going to be pissed Bo joined a cult.


Diekjung

It would be to funny if we see him next in a super duper mart with his new Ghoul Girlfriend Cheyenne.


MicahLacroix

The crossover we all need.


fastal_12147

Society is an illusion and sex is a prison!


Scottish_Whiskey

I *knew* I recognised him from somewhere! That little moustache is a key feature of his


taatchle86

I remember him also from 21 Jump Street and Kroll Show, also It’s Always Sunny when Dee was a substitute teacher.


y2julio

I couldn't stop picturing him as Bo when I watched the show lol


SpelunkyPunky

Wa wa waaaa!


angelgu323

He was in the show Your The Worst and he was indeed... the worst


ChrisAKAPiefish92

The fact he got turned into a mutant by trusting a magic potion some random creepy guy sold to him is just such a fallouty thing to happen


Left4DayZGone

Waiting for someone to get a bit of their brain removed


Guttyshark

Thaddeus becoming a smart super mutant would be the best for his character. Just think back to the two companions and the non confrontational super mutant: fawkes,strong and uncle Leo (fallout 3 & 4)


8CasLok8

I for one welcome our new Harold


SnapChap92

I hated him, then loved him, then hated him, then liked him again. What a ride.


Wesselton3000

His scene with Fred Armisen seemed so out of place but it was so funny. It seriously felt like a scene from Portlandia and I loved it


armoredphoenix1

Listening to the radio in FO4 today and now I just want Fred to be broadcasting at the end of the world all the time.


Free-Spell6846

"oh fuck, I'm going to die" That line was the funniest shit I've ever seen.


GameCreeper

"why am i not dead?"


saro13

When that scene happened and before the sci-fi regeneration took place, I thought it was going to be a riff on how some things aren’t immediately fatal like they’re portrayed in media, and that his actual death would be caused by him bleeding out after he pulled the bolt out of his neck


EnvironmentalYak9322

I just wanted to ask to be sure he was exposed to the super mutant drug right? That's why his foot healed and the whole arrow ordeal or was it actually a ghoul thing?


MechaPanther

It was one of 4 things: FEV which is described and seen as a glowing green goo so probably not. Something with a heavy dose of radiation to instantly ghoulify him which wouldn't heal him unless there was an ungodly amount of radiation nearby. Somehow that doctor made the mysterious serum from FO4, which is supposed to be blood infused with alien radiation. Or finally he somehow got the same mutation Joshua Graham has. Or it's something completely different and a play on NPCs magically healing up between encounters.


Finalpotato

Hancock was ghoulified due to a drug, could be that instead of just radiation


MechaPanther

Ghouls still need radiation to heal though, they're not immortal. Good catch though.


The_4th_Little_Pig

Maybe there was a good amount of radioactive material in the inhaler?


MechaPanther

To heal like that though? That'd have to be something like uranium he was drinking


Copper_Thief

The Navarro fev, aswell as the west tek fev in Virginia were growing green. Id be willing to be belive that it's less concentrated, or that it's a modified serum. For the first it maybe that it simply takes longer for the virus to act in its full form, and for the later it could be some modified genetic modification serum from vault 4. I think it's fev, and that making a bright, glowing green drink for the actor that's still palatable enough to not vomit up was harder than having a thick yellowish solution that probably tasted alright.


Rexclone117

It’s some version of the FEV. At least that is what we are supposed to believe it is.


ThorstenTheViking

Is there a particular reason you think we're supposed to believe that? The yellowish liquid the snake oil salesman gives Thaddeus does not match the universally green depiction of FEV we've seen before. All we've got to go off is the salesman saying that Thaddeus won't need to worry about radiation anymore


mackfeesh

Tbf the oil salesmen goes on about which colour of green will save you before doing that. Might be a hint? Even if we saw yellowish


UPRC

I usually don't like this actor's characters in other shows that much because they're frequently portrayed as really arrogant and annoying assholes, but I didn't mind him here. His character was an still asshole, but he was a doofus as well. I laughed out loud at 2:00 AM at his "HOW AM I STILL ALIVE?" moment.


Mammothdog

At first i thought the guy gave him a hallucinogenic, and eventually, we would see him walking on a stub of a leg with a bone protruding.


Yolom4ntr1c

Bro either gonn b feral, or better yet a supermutant


histocracy411

Better than max by far


TesticleezzNuts

His screams had me in tears 😂 proper cracked me up, was really good at going from serious acting to silly very fast. He perfectly got what fallout


ZillieIsCold

This is my personal opinion but I really dislike him and Maximus for one he locked the dog in a container and left the poor thing there 😢. Altough it would be really cool to see him become a supermutant in S2 since he was given FEV of some sort otherwise I think there's lots of room of growth for both him and max 🤗


Widowswine2016

To be fair, he did check to make sure there was some airflow, so that's gotta count for something


NoNefariousness2144

Bro was trying to give the future main characters a companion to find, I respect that.


RobinHoodFan123

Fallout 4 guy could have shown up, you never know.


The99thCourier

The fact that we are saying that doing that counts for something says enough about the BOS people


NewSauerKraus

It’s a complicated organisation.


Rexclone117

To be fair. He was trying to keep the dog safe. That’s why he went back to see if the dog could breath. But yeah Max was kinda boring. Though the actor did try his best.


VenmoSnake

I thought Max was great, he’s like if a shy gamer nerd got a brotherhood suit.


Internet_Exploder

I thought he sounded an awful lot like Charlie Day.


GreedoInASpeedo

He contains multitudes yo! *waah waah waaaah*


skallywaggsss

Hard to take him seriously.When I watched him in superstore, dudes fucking hilarious 😂


Extra_socks69

Lol...I just kept remembering him from "superstore"


CornerOf12th

Holy shit Bo survived the apocalypse??


Jordan_Jackson

Wait, so was that the FEV that he was injected with? Our boy Thaddeus is going to become a sexless super mutant? Wonder how he is going to handle losing his junk.


Glasses998772

If that doctor had a magic serum to turn people into ghouls, then odds are high that he might have access to FEV.


superanth

Oh yeah, he’s going to be great in season 2. I’m picturing him >!showing up in New Vegas with big parts of his body ghoulified, then he recounts each creature, bandit, and fiend that caused the damage lol.!<


night4345

He's gonna become the next Master.