It was just an effort of an anti-supermutant senator, who hired mercenaries to do just that, not the government and NCR as a whole. Despite some negative sentiments towards them, they were still able to integrate into NCR societies, and at least theoretically, achieve some positions within government executive and legislative bodies. You even have some examples of supermutants rangers in NCR back in Fallout 2.
This is further evidenced by the fact that you can resolve the situation with your speech skill by threatening to expose the situation to the NCR as a whole - which implies that things like this aren’t generally accepted by NCR societies and laws.
Fun fact, my yt recommendations today decided to give me a video of cut content, of a ncr ranger super-mutant who would’ve been stationed at the ranger post near jacobstown.
There's only one super mutant ranger in Fallout 2, and he's not an intelligent one. The vast majority Super Mutants in Fallout 2 were still living seperate from mainstream human society, Broken Hills was maybe an exception (and also not a member of the NCR) if you consider it mainstream.
Everyone always forgets how they tortured Mean Sonofabitch as well.
To be fair, that was a lone senator running for re-election who wanted to score points with racists.
>The Brahmin barons are an important part of Senator Morales' political base, and he's up for reelection soon. The mutants at Jacobstown need to be driven off or provoked into an attack. The senator wants to be able to show he's taking a strong stance against the mutant presence, but there can't be any blood on our hands.
>So, use the same tactics as you did against those squatters back in Oak Creek. Harass the hell out of the mutants, but don't kill them unless they attack first.
There are no flaws in the great nation of the New California Republic. Everything my top 3 presidents, Tandi, Aaron Kimball, and Wendell Peterson, have done are all objectively correct and justified. The NCR is simply a collection of torchbearers moving ever eastward to bring abolition, education, and the rights of the common man to the wastes. The Great Khans are nothing more than a group of rapists and slavers, they had it coming. So what if a couple of old raiders and indoctrinated children were in the crossfire? It was the morally correct move. I am a proud citizen of this great republic.
NCR was not without its flaws and it was certainly repeating many mistakes of the old world, but still, even with those social problems and issues, NCR was still the most inclusive and civilized established faction in the series. You don't have to be a NCR fanboy to point that. It's just a fact.
Youre boasting about inclusivity consist of them recruiting ghouls to their army thats short on manpower. You do have to be a fanboy to see them through those rose tinted glasses and genuinely think they are as great as you described them
Their competition are, as follows, a misogynist slave army that destroys or everything in its path that doesn't bend to it's will, technocratic racist fascists, and a 200 year old corpse who may or may or may not have had a hand in nuking everything in the first place. There is also the fact that without them the wasteland is just that, a wasteland, I'll take a shitty corrupt government that can at least keep the peace enough so you don't have to worry about your shit village getting raped and pillaged by the next group of raiders to roll through.
They’re not great, but who the fuck is in the wasteland? Very few.
Compared to most, the ncr is better and yet it still has massive flaws.
You see how you can say both and still not be a pompous ass who says incorrect info about a quest only to fall back on some lame ass critique of the people telling you you’re wrong?
A stunad to the highest magnitude
I don’t think the Rangers are exactly hurting for manpower nor would they accept anybody who can’t make it through their training. New Vegas had a cut super mutant ranger near Jacobstown and there is precedent for Mutant and Ghoul integration in the military as far back as 2241.
Obviously the NCR has flaws but acting like it isn’t one of the most inclusive wasteland factions because of the actions of one corrupt senator is silly
How is it possible that you are a fan of fallout and you don’t understand that everybody in this post apocalyptic hellscape is in some way evil? Absolutely nobody thinks the NCR is some shining beacon of goodness. They’re just speculating that maybe there was a prominent mutant figure and that it wouldn’t be seen as weird
That was like all things having to do with the NCR in NV a reference to a Native American plight. There was an American president elect who sparked a native massacre to look tough to his crowd (he won the vote).
Looks like a supermutant. Hard to make out but it looks like he has the leather straps and protuberant teeth typically seen in other West Coast supermutants.
We've already seen supermutant rangers so maybe he was a important political leader considering the picture is placed right next to President Kimball.
Maybe they elected supermutant mayor in Shady Sands at some point before the nuke? Considering his photo is next to Kimball's, it had to be an important person to the Town.
From the Shady Sands refugee cult ritual in E6 – the left-hand portrait is of President Kimball, but who's the right-hand one supposed to be? I've compared it to [Tandi](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/d/d9/FO02_NPC_Tandi_N.png/revision/latest?cb=20221004090003) and [Aradesh](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/e/ed/FO01_NPC_Aradesh_B.png/revision/latest?cb=20110406051919)'s character art (the obvious picks), and it doesn't look the same. Any suggestions on who else it could be?
News travels far and wide
Also idk maybe Harold underwent some kind of evolutionary metamorpheses to facilitate mobility. 40 years extremely irradiated is a lot of time to go wonky in the Fallout universe
Holy shit yeah that’s exactly what it is! It’s swampfolk tracker, with the shirt and jacket and everything. Looks like the swampfolk concept art you can see at the bottom of the [wiki page](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Swampfolk?file=Swampfolk_concept.jpg). Not sure why it’s there, maybe meant to represent some unnamed political figure, or it’s not meant to represent anything lol
It's clearly *not* Harold, but he's got strong Harold vibes. Definitely seems like a ghoul or mutant or importance, but probably not one we've actually seen before.
Maybe it's Marcus?
i mean nowadays most decisions like this aren't just set dressing, like a gun on a wall it's most likely going to be used or is at least a nod to something
we see very few mutants so far, it's possible we may get some intelligent mutants in a flashback or something similar but we just don't know yet
Jesus fucking christ internet, not every single piece of a set is a hint or some big potential reveal.
Anybody know what the symbolism is of those different color candles? Does that mean the Enclave was dating Lucy's mom and a Synth fucked her dad?
You’re going way above what the post is doing to make some argument about over analyzing.
This is simply asking a question about a possibility, no one is going all the fuck out on bullshit like your lame argument is doing.
Relax and go have an enema
One image is President Kimball. The other is \*clearly\* *also* someone important, because he/she is next to the President, and he/she's *green with deformed features.*
Do you think the show runners just did that *randomly?*
Is this your first TV show?
So you think if one thing has significance on set all things must have the same significance? Is this your first TV show lol.
Set a reminder, and let's have this talk again next season big boy.
it literally isn’t because that looks nothing like the ghoul they show to be her mom and why tf would they make a framed picture of her post ghoul and post nuke ???
Maybe just an unnamed Ghoul or Supermutant of a significant political importance. NCR was always inclusive to all "races" of mankind tbh.
Yeah, thats why they tried to provoke a war with Jacobstown in FNV
It was just an effort of an anti-supermutant senator, who hired mercenaries to do just that, not the government and NCR as a whole. Despite some negative sentiments towards them, they were still able to integrate into NCR societies, and at least theoretically, achieve some positions within government executive and legislative bodies. You even have some examples of supermutants rangers in NCR back in Fallout 2.
This is further evidenced by the fact that you can resolve the situation with your speech skill by threatening to expose the situation to the NCR as a whole - which implies that things like this aren’t generally accepted by NCR societies and laws.
Man this is the first I’m hearing of super mutant rangers. Sounds dope
Fun fact, my yt recommendations today decided to give me a video of cut content, of a ncr ranger super-mutant who would’ve been stationed at the ranger post near jacobstown.
There's only one super mutant ranger in Fallout 2, and he's not an intelligent one. The vast majority Super Mutants in Fallout 2 were still living seperate from mainstream human society, Broken Hills was maybe an exception (and also not a member of the NCR) if you consider it mainstream. Everyone always forgets how they tortured Mean Sonofabitch as well.
To be fair, that was a lone senator running for re-election who wanted to score points with racists. >The Brahmin barons are an important part of Senator Morales' political base, and he's up for reelection soon. The mutants at Jacobstown need to be driven off or provoked into an attack. The senator wants to be able to show he's taking a strong stance against the mutant presence, but there can't be any blood on our hands. >So, use the same tactics as you did against those squatters back in Oak Creek. Harass the hell out of the mutants, but don't kill them unless they attack first.
I love how only ncr fanboys refuse to accept the flaw of their favourite faction
There are no flaws in the great nation of the New California Republic. Everything my top 3 presidents, Tandi, Aaron Kimball, and Wendell Peterson, have done are all objectively correct and justified. The NCR is simply a collection of torchbearers moving ever eastward to bring abolition, education, and the rights of the common man to the wastes. The Great Khans are nothing more than a group of rapists and slavers, they had it coming. So what if a couple of old raiders and indoctrinated children were in the crossfire? It was the morally correct move. I am a proud citizen of this great republic.
NCR was not without its flaws and it was certainly repeating many mistakes of the old world, but still, even with those social problems and issues, NCR was still the most inclusive and civilized established faction in the series. You don't have to be a NCR fanboy to point that. It's just a fact.
Youre boasting about inclusivity consist of them recruiting ghouls to their army thats short on manpower. You do have to be a fanboy to see them through those rose tinted glasses and genuinely think they are as great as you described them
Their competition are, as follows, a misogynist slave army that destroys or everything in its path that doesn't bend to it's will, technocratic racist fascists, and a 200 year old corpse who may or may or may not have had a hand in nuking everything in the first place. There is also the fact that without them the wasteland is just that, a wasteland, I'll take a shitty corrupt government that can at least keep the peace enough so you don't have to worry about your shit village getting raped and pillaged by the next group of raiders to roll through.
They’re not great, but who the fuck is in the wasteland? Very few. Compared to most, the ncr is better and yet it still has massive flaws. You see how you can say both and still not be a pompous ass who says incorrect info about a quest only to fall back on some lame ass critique of the people telling you you’re wrong? A stunad to the highest magnitude
I don’t think the Rangers are exactly hurting for manpower nor would they accept anybody who can’t make it through their training. New Vegas had a cut super mutant ranger near Jacobstown and there is precedent for Mutant and Ghoul integration in the military as far back as 2241. Obviously the NCR has flaws but acting like it isn’t one of the most inclusive wasteland factions because of the actions of one corrupt senator is silly
How is it possible that you are a fan of fallout and you don’t understand that everybody in this post apocalyptic hellscape is in some way evil? Absolutely nobody thinks the NCR is some shining beacon of goodness. They’re just speculating that maybe there was a prominent mutant figure and that it wouldn’t be seen as weird
No, it’s just a reflection of real life politics. The recognition of the flaw is implied
How did you miss the obviousness of that whole thing?
That was like all things having to do with the NCR in NV a reference to a Native American plight. There was an American president elect who sparked a native massacre to look tough to his crowd (he won the vote).
Not canon.
Looks like a supermutant. Hard to make out but it looks like he has the leather straps and protuberant teeth typically seen in other West Coast supermutants. We've already seen supermutant rangers so maybe he was a important political leader considering the picture is placed right next to President Kimball.
Maybe they elected supermutant mayor in Shady Sands at some point before the nuke? Considering his photo is next to Kimball's, it had to be an important person to the Town.
HOW DID I NOT NOTICE KIMBALL?!
Same here! That’s sad, the NCR really is in shambles
Spoiler if you haven't seen the finale... >!I'm confused why people are guessing. That looks exactly like Lucy's zombie mom, Rose, in the finale.!<
I think they would have a picture of her being like alive and not a picture of her as a corpse
From the Shady Sands refugee cult ritual in E6 – the left-hand portrait is of President Kimball, but who's the right-hand one supposed to be? I've compared it to [Tandi](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/d/d9/FO02_NPC_Tandi_N.png/revision/latest?cb=20221004090003) and [Aradesh](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/e/ed/FO01_NPC_Aradesh_B.png/revision/latest?cb=20110406051919)'s character art (the obvious picks), and it doesn't look the same. Any suggestions on who else it could be?
Could be Harold
Harold hasn't been mobile in over 40 years...and he's on the other side of the country.
News travels far and wide Also idk maybe Harold underwent some kind of evolutionary metamorpheses to facilitate mobility. 40 years extremely irradiated is a lot of time to go wonky in the Fallout universe
Whoa! I just noticed that lol
Her….girlfriend?
She has a type.
Wouldn't it be something if we meet Beatrix still working in New Vegas and she knew Moldaver as a client.
lol that would be, something haha people know her by the ghoul she karts around with here on a leash
I like to think it's the Toxic Avenger!
My mop!
Looks like one of the Swampfolk from Point Lookout.
Holy shit yeah that’s exactly what it is! It’s swampfolk tracker, with the shirt and jacket and everything. Looks like the swampfolk concept art you can see at the bottom of the [wiki page](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Swampfolk?file=Swampfolk_concept.jpg). Not sure why it’s there, maybe meant to represent some unnamed political figure, or it’s not meant to represent anything lol
Came here to say this. Cousin Eddy?
Ambrose Reginald the 3rd but everybody calls him Ferdinand.
I love how Kimball looks exactly as weirdly low poly as he does in game
Would laugh if that was Harold
Whatchyou neeeeed, youngster?
Maybe Harold? I can *kinda* see it. No idea who else it could be.
My first thought
Yeah if they are an existing character it is Harold. And they can probably have some creative licence as the last time he was in a game he was a tree.
It's a Harold/Bob Sproutling!
It's clearly *not* Harold, but he's got strong Harold vibes. Definitely seems like a ghoul or mutant or importance, but probably not one we've actually seen before. Maybe it's Marcus?
Could be, but that's extremely random. He has nothing to doxwith the NCR
Looks like a ghoul, maybe its Lucy's mommy
Therapist: Hapsburg ghouls aren't real, they can't hurt you Hapsburg Ghoul:
He's Admiral Ackbar.
Looks like the troll from the first Harry Potter film
The pictures are maybe the ancestors of the vault 4 born people? They were more mutated then the current generation.
But one is of Kimball
If you zoom in on the picture on the left half that persons face is badly deformed.
Is that not just the lighting?
No since this is expliclty a surface dweller event mourning their loss The vault dwellers dont partake of their own choice
IT'S HAROLD
OMG 😱😳 you found Harold
Should have included a photo of Tandi 👵
Someone from Point Lookout.
Leather face
Yall look too much into things sometimes
lmao to be fair these set designers put care into every single item you see on screen
i mean nowadays most decisions like this aren't just set dressing, like a gun on a wall it's most likely going to be used or is at least a nod to something we see very few mutants so far, it's possible we may get some intelligent mutants in a flashback or something similar but we just don't know yet
I still think Thaddeus is going to be a super mutant
I 100% could be, but I feel like if the other portrait was of an important character, this one might be too
Looks like someone made a Wrong Turn
According to AtomicZoZo, it's a Swampfolk guy, and they're right, looks exactly like em
Looks like the Fallout 1 version of Harold the tree man
Toxie from Toxic Avenger
I still never really understood this scene. Why were the vault dwellers worshiping Moldever?
looks like a victim to the initial fallout radiation blast
Looks like a swamp folk from point lookout mixed with a super mutant
I think it's Lucy's mom, Rose.
It's admiral Akbar in profile
Yo mama
It's the.. master.. MASTER!!! Unity.. masTER!
That’s me
Jesus fucking christ internet, not every single piece of a set is a hint or some big potential reveal. Anybody know what the symbolism is of those different color candles? Does that mean the Enclave was dating Lucy's mom and a Synth fucked her dad?
You’re going way above what the post is doing to make some argument about over analyzing. This is simply asking a question about a possibility, no one is going all the fuck out on bullshit like your lame argument is doing. Relax and go have an enema
Man, that escalated quickly. A "blow it out your ass" would have been more succinct.
This town needs an enema!…
this is more than just some random prop. This is an image of a character, and clearly not a random one.
Yep, that image screams "clearly" to me. Totally a laser sharp image of an exact character.
"derp! u said *clearly*, but screenshot *blurry*!" Imbecile.
No, that's what you said, sir.
One image is President Kimball. The other is \*clearly\* *also* someone important, because he/she is next to the President, and he/she's *green with deformed features.* Do you think the show runners just did that *randomly?* Is this your first TV show?
So you think if one thing has significance on set all things must have the same significance? Is this your first TV show lol. Set a reminder, and let's have this talk again next season big boy.
no, because I'm blocking you for exhausting me with your stupidity.
All I hear are chicken noises. Maybe I've gone feral. Surprise, that photo is actually me.
Looks like a mutant. As a side note why did they get all weird and cult like?
That's my friend Kevin. He can look a little goofy at times.
Harold?
It’s Rose isn’t it?
Isn’t it Lucy’s mom?
Looks nothing like her also why would they make a framed picture of her ghoulified AFTER the nuke goes off? Makes no sense
It’s literally Lucy’s mom
it literally isn’t because that looks nothing like the ghoul they show to be her mom and why tf would they make a framed picture of her post ghoul and post nuke ???
Lucy’s mum???