"Well, the reading were taken from inside my leadshieleded arm and it is fortunate that it stopped at 3.6 because my dosimeter doesn't go higher"
-Enginseer Leadicus while being questioned by the medicae because of menials with radiation poisening.
Probably for the best that you have a Long Wall around the reactor and the Gellar Field generator and no fucker gets through that doesn’t know exactly how to treat the machine spirits
This is actually the case for Imperial and Chaos ships. These ships are hundreds to even thousands of years old, crewed by generation upon generation of people living and dying without ever stepping foot outside of their own deck, let alone the ship. The Rogue Trader game does a good job of showcasing what the social structure is like on a ship like this: dozens-hundreds of family clans on each deck forming into their own small states and societies. You could tell an entire story on a single Imperial vessel alone
It kinda sucks for them, too, when they have shore leave. People born and then living in ships tend to be tall and thin, with very pale skin due to the low gravity and lack of sunlight. So on shore leave they tend to be taken for mutants and with bad luck end up burned
Reminds me of that bit from war of the beast where a regular soldier gets imprisoned with some spacers. The spacers are tall due to living in low g forever. They get "rescued" by some black templar's, who proceed to murder all the spacers, leaving just the soldier standing there amid a pile of bodies(and things body adjacent because they went full auto with bolters) because they "deviated from the standard too much". This is only like 1000 years after HH and the templars are already over the top
Edit: they were captured by orks if that makes their situation any more depressing
If I recall correctly, those weren't actually (just) spacers; they were sanctioned abhumans, but evidently they weren't on the Templars' "approved" list
But yes, the main "divergence" of that type of abhuman was just being tall and skinny from a low-g home world
I feel like this was from the more ridiculas era of 40k where it was all edgy somewhere in late 2000s
edit: Im fking blind its war of the beast thats like peak grimderp
Chris Wraights Warhammer Crime book Bloodlines describes such a public killing. Their mouths were just a little too wide, their skin a bit too blue.
The local mob murdered innoncent people and the main character (the local equivalent of a police detective) even approves of it "Better safe than sorry."
Wraight is unnmatched in his ability to paint a verisimilitudinous image of day to day imperial life.
I mean the people with "Their mouths were just a little too wide, their skin a bit too blue." 99% they were genesealers. It is hinted at throughout the book the planet is in the middle stages of infection.
> So on shore leave they tend to be taken for mutants and with bad luck end up burned
Bold of you to assume there is shore leave in a lot of these cases.
it is european city size thing. i know hive city sim would be pipe dream but daaamn that thing has enough lore and size to fit everything rpg game/ game about shooting jumbojet sized shells
give me lower deck management sim of greaser crew. give me papers please on low/mid deck border. or enforcer solving crime in lower decks. hack and slash because geller field failed. Theme Hospital industrial injury servitor making edition
there doesn't need to be driving the ship or space combat
there is fakin ecosystem inside, untapped potential
Imagine a Frostpunk-esque management game except you manage an imperial cruiser, property of a rogue trader. Instead of going into expeditions and having cold period, the "crisis mode" is every time the ship warp travel.
God I want it just by describing it.
"Warhammer 50k: The Ship Moves" mentioned! Upvoted. I'm happy.
>!And to think everything started because some RPG player didn't know what proportions are and how to multiply...!<
I love it so much. I promote it whenever the opportunity comes up. All the other 50k scenarios are just "what if it was \*even more\* grim dark" or "what if the Emperor came back, and had \*EVEN BIGGER PAULDRONS\*\*"
This was the only one that took it in a real serious and fresh direction. Love the whole "we are the last of humanity, aboard the Battlestar Galactica", the God Captain of Mankind, the way there's entire planetary ecosystems contained in the engine rooms and bilge pumps, and then way that the Ship is simultaneously impenetrable to chaos (sort of) due to the blinding presence of the Captain of Mankind, yet also the single biggest target for Xenos and Chaos actions in the galaxy because its literally ALL the humans left.
The best captains will value every member of their ship, from the youngest Midshipman to the Captain themself, each has a purpose, and they need to work together to survive, much like the imperium itself
I know, I just thought it would be darkly funny is the press gangs picked up some hiver, had a good look at them and just dropped them back on the ground because they were too useless.
Probably happens tbh, you gotta be able bodied, which honestly sucks.
>Walking home after leaving the nearby Bar, I hear a commotion, a thunderous approach of a large group, heavy footfalls joined by yelps and screams as they shocked and prodded those nearby, rounding them up unless they were otherwise spoken for. A shock prod hits your back, knocking the air out of you, and tossing you to a knee, as a man approaches, he holds up a biometric reader, scowls at you, and moves on… **Failure**
They are worth more than that, as I said, their most important task is keeping the ship running, which to run at full capacity, requires everyone working together, including the deepest dankest depths filled with mutants on the ships
Not even that. In the Royal Navy (and a few others), midshipman is the lowest officer rank (OF-1, lower half), equivalent to a US Navy ensign or an Army second lieutenant.
Heh, Tunnel Snakes. I truly imagine your average Hive "home" or Voidship "quarters" as a Fallout Vault but full of people, dirty, badly maintained, smaller and without any modern commodities.
The ships are so large they're practically worlds unto themselves. Single Marine strike cruisers can have crew/serf populations into the thousands, with social hierarchies both enforced by the official authorities, as well as naturally occurring based on occupation.
Some ships may have massive unofficial populations who have nothing to do with the ship's actual running, living off the grid and scavenging/bartering with the official crew and ratings. On a ship like an Emperor- or Gloriana-class, or Arks Mechanicus, you can easily get populations into the hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions, depending on how insane the size is.
The first Death Star only had a crew of between 50k and 1.1 million, depending on the source (legends), for a sphere of about 140km wide, but that's in a universe with much more automation.
140km is the outside.range of an Ark Mechanicus, which is likely far more dense, cramped, and reliant on manual labor, so that's still massive.
I think in the twice dead king, the main character gets stranded in an abandoned part of a Space Marine Ship and fights his way through hordes of mutants
Very far from true lol, although I suppose it might be if there's no convenient way to go in a more or less straight line.
Gloriana class ships are the biggest the imperium's got outside of niche cases like the Phalanx, and those are a bit over 20km long. You can walk that in about 4 hours.
Yeah people are always talking up the size of the Imperium ships and how huge they are but they honestly just don’t feel big enough for how they are talked up. Like in the Rogue Trader crpg you get a frigate and they start talking about generational clans and such but like, a frigate is one and a half kilometers. That’s like, what, 5 aircraft carriers end to end? Big, sure, but not *that* big.
actually a myth, that implys you could walk from one end to the other without dying horribly. if the cult-gangs dont try to sacrfice you to who-knows-what than the daemon that got in when the gellerfield flickered will.
I Kinda hate scaling in 40k because 40k Ships are so Large it could have a Rebellion and a growing Civilization happening at the same time but the best they can deploy are like 6 People tops.
Yeah Yeah they are uber powerful armored Space Knights with Flamethrowers and Guns but still I think it'd be a bit safer if you send more than that.
playing rogue trader always made me laugh with this, people dying every time i bloody make a slight unsafe jump, think ive lost 9000 lower deck crew so far.
I'm playing rogue trader atm and I'm so here for this meme. Especially because you get answers to backup this character choosing the nobility background as character.
I'm back to my amasec. Cherio.
I love that the Mechanicus just secured the area around the reactor and declared it a autonomous free state.
Probably so irradiated nobody else could live there anyway.
"3.6 Roentgen, not great not terrible" -Enginseer Leadicus while diagnosing the reactors menials.
>Enginseer **Lead**icus My tech-comrade in Omnissiah, not terrible for whose standards?
It's like getting x-ray of chest. Nothing extra
"Well, the reading were taken from inside my leadshieleded arm and it is fortunate that it stopped at 3.6 because my dosimeter doesn't go higher" -Enginseer Leadicus while being questioned by the medicae because of menials with radiation poisening.
"It's cold here... up the radiation!"
They only need the “volunteers” to reach the refuelling area once.
They call it that mostly because they like the "auto-" part of the name.
Probably for the best that you have a Long Wall around the reactor and the Gellar Field generator and no fucker gets through that doesn’t know exactly how to treat the machine spirits
I thinks it's a nod to "cargonia" in space station 13
Tunnel Snakes Rule!
We are tunnel snakes!
That's us!
And we rule!
I'm glad that they're doing well for themselves!
Tunnel Snakes. NICE
Cheeky Battlefront 2 Star Destroyer announcement reference.
I heard that announcement.
**ALL HANDS, MAN YOUR BATTLESTATIONS!** **REPEAT; ALL HANDS, MAN YOUR BATTLESTATIONS!**
**FIRE ON FLIGHT DECK AFT!**
Oh boy here I go boarding the rebel ship again
And, if I'm not mistaken, a SDSD reference as well! [For the uninitiated ](https://i.stack.imgur.com/xJHsW.jpg)
Alpharius definitely used cheese to fight Dorn.
Probably a nice wheel of Gouda.
He ate 30 of them mid combat Elder Scrolls style.
Now theres a scary thought. A ship so vast people forget they are even on a ship. Its their whole world
This is actually the case for Imperial and Chaos ships. These ships are hundreds to even thousands of years old, crewed by generation upon generation of people living and dying without ever stepping foot outside of their own deck, let alone the ship. The Rogue Trader game does a good job of showcasing what the social structure is like on a ship like this: dozens-hundreds of family clans on each deck forming into their own small states and societies. You could tell an entire story on a single Imperial vessel alone
It kinda sucks for them, too, when they have shore leave. People born and then living in ships tend to be tall and thin, with very pale skin due to the low gravity and lack of sunlight. So on shore leave they tend to be taken for mutants and with bad luck end up burned
Reminds me of that bit from war of the beast where a regular soldier gets imprisoned with some spacers. The spacers are tall due to living in low g forever. They get "rescued" by some black templar's, who proceed to murder all the spacers, leaving just the soldier standing there amid a pile of bodies(and things body adjacent because they went full auto with bolters) because they "deviated from the standard too much". This is only like 1000 years after HH and the templars are already over the top Edit: they were captured by orks if that makes their situation any more depressing
If I recall correctly, those weren't actually (just) spacers; they were sanctioned abhumans, but evidently they weren't on the Templars' "approved" list But yes, the main "divergence" of that type of abhuman was just being tall and skinny from a low-g home world
Yeah. "Longshanks"
I feel like this was from the more ridiculas era of 40k where it was all edgy somewhere in late 2000s edit: Im fking blind its war of the beast thats like peak grimderp
Dorn: "The War of the Beast was weird."
Part of the crew part of the ship
Chris Wraights Warhammer Crime book Bloodlines describes such a public killing. Their mouths were just a little too wide, their skin a bit too blue. The local mob murdered innoncent people and the main character (the local equivalent of a police detective) even approves of it "Better safe than sorry." Wraight is unnmatched in his ability to paint a verisimilitudinous image of day to day imperial life.
I mean the people with "Their mouths were just a little too wide, their skin a bit too blue." 99% they were genesealers. It is hinted at throughout the book the planet is in the middle stages of infection.
So they skirt around the issue of this basically being an allegory to the 1940s with the you know who group.
> So on shore leave they tend to be taken for mutants and with bad luck end up burned Bold of you to assume there is shore leave in a lot of these cases.
The Rogue Trader game has you on a FRIGATE. Imagine the larger ships!
it is european city size thing. i know hive city sim would be pipe dream but daaamn that thing has enough lore and size to fit everything rpg game/ game about shooting jumbojet sized shells give me lower deck management sim of greaser crew. give me papers please on low/mid deck border. or enforcer solving crime in lower decks. hack and slash because geller field failed. Theme Hospital industrial injury servitor making edition there doesn't need to be driving the ship or space combat there is fakin ecosystem inside, untapped potential
Imagine a Frostpunk-esque management game except you manage an imperial cruiser, property of a rogue trader. Instead of going into expeditions and having cold period, the "crisis mode" is every time the ship warp travel. God I want it just by describing it.
This is the basis for my favourite Warhammer 50k scenario [THE SHIP MOVES](https://2d4chan.org/wiki/The_ship_moves)
Well. Now *there's* an interesting idea for a setting.
"Warhammer 50k: The Ship Moves" mentioned! Upvoted. I'm happy. >!And to think everything started because some RPG player didn't know what proportions are and how to multiply...!<
I love it so much. I promote it whenever the opportunity comes up. All the other 50k scenarios are just "what if it was \*even more\* grim dark" or "what if the Emperor came back, and had \*EVEN BIGGER PAULDRONS\*\*" This was the only one that took it in a real serious and fresh direction. Love the whole "we are the last of humanity, aboard the Battlestar Galactica", the God Captain of Mankind, the way there's entire planetary ecosystems contained in the engine rooms and bilge pumps, and then way that the Ship is simultaneously impenetrable to chaos (sort of) due to the blinding presence of the Captain of Mankind, yet also the single biggest target for Xenos and Chaos actions in the galaxy because its literally ALL the humans left.
Oh? What's the story there?
Pretty sure that's basically the whole plot of knights of sidonia.
[This WarHams short is pretty much canon in 40k.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gannRUNU3EY)
I miss Pi-Braine
This is actually a huge aspect of the Rogue Trader CRPG and you can choose your origins as one lf those people
Oh well *anyways*
I see that after the removal of that corrupt governor, they got the cheese trolley tithes flowing again for the proper people of society
The best captains will value every member of their ship, from the youngest Midshipman to the Captain themself, each has a purpose, and they need to work together to survive, much like the imperium itself
Oh sure they have value. Just not a lot
I mean. If they didn't have any value, the press gangs wouldn't even bother kidnapping them.
That’s what I’m saying, they are worth something. But the equipment and supplies they use are worth more
I know, I just thought it would be darkly funny is the press gangs picked up some hiver, had a good look at them and just dropped them back on the ground because they were too useless.
Probably happens tbh, you gotta be able bodied, which honestly sucks. >Walking home after leaving the nearby Bar, I hear a commotion, a thunderous approach of a large group, heavy footfalls joined by yelps and screams as they shocked and prodded those nearby, rounding them up unless they were otherwise spoken for. A shock prod hits your back, knocking the air out of you, and tossing you to a knee, as a man approaches, he holds up a biometric reader, scowls at you, and moves on… **Failure**
There are no failures. Any hiver can be useful, be it as a serf to move a shell, or rations.
They are worth more than that, as I said, their most important task is keeping the ship running, which to run at full capacity, requires everyone working together, including the deepest dankest depths filled with mutants on the ships
Impressing ;p
press gangs probably just use zip codes at that scale
They are worth .001 seconds of reload speed
So, officers and officers-to-be only, eh? Just kidding, I know what you mean.
Not even that. In the Royal Navy (and a few others), midshipman is the lowest officer rank (OF-1, lower half), equivalent to a US Navy ensign or an Army second lieutenant.
Heh, Tunnel Snakes. I truly imagine your average Hive "home" or Voidship "quarters" as a Fallout Vault but full of people, dirty, badly maintained, smaller and without any modern commodities.
Is part of the joke that the ships are so large they have political factions inside of them?
The ships are so large they're practically worlds unto themselves. Single Marine strike cruisers can have crew/serf populations into the thousands, with social hierarchies both enforced by the official authorities, as well as naturally occurring based on occupation. Some ships may have massive unofficial populations who have nothing to do with the ship's actual running, living off the grid and scavenging/bartering with the official crew and ratings. On a ship like an Emperor- or Gloriana-class, or Arks Mechanicus, you can easily get populations into the hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions, depending on how insane the size is.
God I love Warhammer 40K maximalism.
The first Death Star only had a crew of between 50k and 1.1 million, depending on the source (legends), for a sphere of about 140km wide, but that's in a universe with much more automation. 140km is the outside.range of an Ark Mechanicus, which is likely far more dense, cramped, and reliant on manual labor, so that's still massive.
Fidelitas Lex had a crew of a quarter of a million at the start of the Heresy
I think in the twice dead king, the main character gets stranded in an abandoned part of a Space Marine Ship and fights his way through hordes of mutants
Some ships are so large that they are basically individual cities welded together. Like it's a 2 day walk from one end to the other
Very far from true lol, although I suppose it might be if there's no convenient way to go in a more or less straight line. Gloriana class ships are the biggest the imperium's got outside of niche cases like the Phalanx, and those are a bit over 20km long. You can walk that in about 4 hours.
Yeah people are always talking up the size of the Imperium ships and how huge they are but they honestly just don’t feel big enough for how they are talked up. Like in the Rogue Trader crpg you get a frigate and they start talking about generational clans and such but like, a frigate is one and a half kilometers. That’s like, what, 5 aircraft carriers end to end? Big, sure, but not *that* big.
Everyone's talking about length but what about girth?
Walking in a straight line it's not big. In volume, filled with snaking corridors it's massive.
Yeah they played up the sword class way too much in that one
actually a myth, that implys you could walk from one end to the other without dying horribly. if the cult-gangs dont try to sacrfice you to who-knows-what than the daemon that got in when the gellerfield flickered will.
"The ship is too big. If I walk, the crusade will be over."
I can see him
He's so good at sneaking he unlocked the tuxedo.
I can fucking hear the all hands man your battlestations announcement
It’s always such a fucking pleasure coming across your work man. Keep it the fuck up
The real prize is all the background art
"cheese trolley" 💀
More reason why I prefer lances and hanger bays.
Lance users gangsta until anything with void shields shows up
Apocalypse Class: "If Lance don't work, use more Lance."
"And if more lance don't work, drain the engines to use even more lance from further away."
*Nova Cannon gang rise up*
The scatter dice have decided that today, Nova Cannon gang shall instead rise sideways.
"Do you get to the upper decks very ofen? Oh. What am I saying. Of course you don't"
Reminds me of the [SDSD Freudian Nightmare](https://i.stack.imgur.com/xJHsW.jpg)
Entered this comment section in hope of somebody mentioning this, since I wanted to re-read it. Thank you.
I gotta give a shout out to the best gang in the vaults! Tunnel snakes rule!
Trazyn…..what are you doing here
I see that 2005 Battlefront reference!
Nice shout out to SDSD Freudian Nightmare
Ha ha Gun(deck) Runners nice nv ref
Excellent Fallout references.
That's a rad patch man!
After all, the least horrific thing that could happen is being told to house a few Lamentors
Joke? You're down a whole macro-cannon and you think it's a joke?
Hey now, that's at least *pretty bad.* One of the macro cannons is down!
Tunnel Snakes rule!!!
Tunnel Snakes Rule!
That fine gentleman on the left side of the table looks.. familiar..
I spot a snippet of Imperial radio jabber from the original Star Wars: Battlefront 2 on the announcements screen there... nice
Is that a horrible histories reference?
Yes.
But how will this affect my profit factor?
Tunnel Snakes Rule!
Crew can be replaced and damaged can be repaired what is the status or by borderline heretical cargo
Bruv, too soon…
True
I Kinda hate scaling in 40k because 40k Ships are so Large it could have a Rebellion and a growing Civilization happening at the same time but the best they can deploy are like 6 People tops. Yeah Yeah they are uber powerful armored Space Knights with Flamethrowers and Guns but still I think it'd be a bit safer if you send more than that.
Foie gras mon ami
playing rogue trader always made me laugh with this, people dying every time i bloody make a slight unsafe jump, think ive lost 9000 lower deck crew so far.
I'm playing rogue trader atm and I'm so here for this meme. Especially because you get answers to backup this character choosing the nobility background as character. I'm back to my amasec. Cherio.
I can *hear* that announcement. Battlefront 2 Core Memory
Tunnel snakes rule!
Tunnel Snakes rule!
Is that a necron with a suit and a mustache?
TUNNEL SNAKES RULES
Tunnel Snakes rule!