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Right there officer. That’s him!
agreed.
bots kill me or my friends: "dammit! well played, you clanker bastard, but we'll be back!"
bots kill an animal: "*in the first age, in the first battle, when the shadows first lengthened.."*
Why are we carrying guns? I'm sure automaton limbs can be swapped out in peace times, that's the advantage of having machine parts instead of organics.
...is what I'd say if I were a filthy robot sympathiser I mean.
To be honest, I think many of the Automatons aren't meant to be soldiers. The Trooper aim is _dreadful_ even at short range.
Hulks, tanks, Berserkers? Sure. Devastators? Probably, though maybe they're just equipping themselves heavily. But troopers? No way these things are designed for combat ground-up.
The peaceful race got their cyberstan but didnt stop there. So much for being peacefull. And also cyberstan is an ice planet there is no foliage so there is no purpose for chainsaw arms!
I only use it against big enemies like hulks,turrets, and tanks. I didn't need it up quick for those guys. 1-2 shots will take them all. I hide behind cover and throw stun grenades at hulks to drop them with one shot
I started using the arm over the quasar today. It's amazing how quickly you can down a group a devastators and hulks are a non-issue. Not to mention you can take out 2-3 scout ships in one mag. I still use the 500kg and walking barrage for tanks though.
Only thing I hate about it is the shake when anything happens (explosions, strategems landing near you etc).
For me it happens more often than it misses. True it's not as reliable as the single target strategems, but it also clears out the column of bots chasing me so it's worth it imo.
Not enough to compensate for being able to solo Bile titans and chargers. Couple with the sickle and even on Hellmire you have a great pairing to keep the chaff off and take down the big guys.
Granted the recoiless is to me is better but, the need to reload in a fixed spot is not viable in high levels without a coordinated team. Same reason why i choose quasar over the Autocannon. Both are useless without a team that understand you need the hunters kept off you while you reload before the charger has a chance to get to you.
Usually I can mow down the immediate danger chaff units swap to a quasar and fire off a shot and then go back to keeping the chaff off while NOT needing other teammates to keep me alive. The most deadly enemy right now are the hunters. If they every boost the stalkers too. it will be a cold day for liberty.
I know trying to keep up with that when two bile titans and a charger running around with 10 or so hunters on you and you're the only 40+ level dude on a Hell dive and trying to keep the level fifteen guy alive who does not even know the dive crouch dive chicken dance yet. Yea sorry gotta stick with the Quasar.
Though I do love running the AC.
Damn imagine we could complete a major order and get squads of AI controlled reprogrammed bots as stratagems. Sicking reprogrammed Hulk on a swarm of bugs would be rad as fuck
It's pretty decent against berserkers since it staggers them reliably, and staggers the whole packed crowd because they start dropping in groups of like 4 from diff 5-6 already lol. It's just when there are several such packs running towards your team, and those two rocket devas need attention, and maybe you could also spare time to snipe that hulk…
Unless they somehow broke it in the latest patch, this is not true. Cooldown is shorter on cold planets, longer on hot planets. This is also true for other laser weapons, the tooltip saying they take longer/shorter to overheat isn't correct.
Is it working properly now?
I remember trying the Quasar on a cold planet when the new weapons came out, and while it did cool down fast, it still didn't let me fire again until a couple seconds after that.
Man, I *want* to like the QC, but I really just can't get over that wind-up, and how the visual effects fuck with my aim. I got nothin' but respect for the guys who can casually headshot Hulks and shit with it, but I'll stick with my Recoilless.
With autocannon, reloading before empty is actually best. Since there is no magazine to eject, there is no lost ammo. Reloading before empty means you don't need to rack the gun to chamber the first round, and can go straight back to shooting.
Nice try, automaton, but Hellpod launch detected, orbital laser inbound, 380mm barrage inbound, 120mm barrage inbound, elite Helldiver presence, heavy Eagle presence, SEAF artillery detected, you are in range of enemy Super Destroyer
Nice argument, unfortunately there's a ➡️➡️⬇️⬅️➡️⬇️, a ➡️⬇️⬆️⬆️⬅️⬇️⬇️, and a ➡️⬇️➡️⬇️➡️⬇️ over your base (you're about to be hit by the entire arsenal of north korea)
Assuming there are separate North and South Koreas on Super Earth.
Imagine the volume of North Korean artillery shells being fired from the state-of-the-art South Korean artillery platforms.
...actually, that sounds very similar to SEAF artillery.
Defense mission is everything I wanted, massive horde storms one position that you must hold, chokepoints for days and like a minute or two at the start to prepare. Bring mortars(both) for adds and mediums, Quasar for heavies and 500kg/Laser for when things start going FUBAR. Smooth sailing from here if everyone know what they are doing.
Those precious 2 minutes before shit goes to hell gets me so amped up. Watching everyone scramble, put down emplacements, support weapons, backpacks, supplies. Closing doors, manning HMGs. God I love democracy
I said "boy am I glad to have gotten rid of Hellmire".
Fast forward a few hours we got an automaton equivalent of it.
This is truly an unjust world created by a cruel god.
Hate how there is no difference in missions for offensive vs defensive planets. Like how do the boys have anti air and full on bases setup on. Planet they are invading.
I mean, not hard to imagine they can drop that shit in. Anti-air is just a big gun and they have drop ships.
But I 100% agree I think missions on defend planets need to be almost entirely different from normal ones. Extract, destroy evidence/tech/sabotage infrastructure, and then defending against sieges.
[INTERCEPTED MESSAGE]: <::Man this new Cyberbong be hitting, how the hell did you make thi-::> [END OF INTERCEPTED MESSAGE]
Obviously the bots are better…Cyberbo- I mean, Cyberstan for the win
Sucks to be you, tin can
*throws stun grenade, kills Hulk with two shots to the head from Autocannon, shits on every other bot with Scorcher/Dominator*
I only have done one mission and it was on par with the usual.
But I did miss the bots when shit is popping off on bots it really do feel like you're in an insane warzone.
Oh, I worked out why you get spammed with "you are within range of enemy artillery" voice lines. It gets played for every time a Helldiver enters the range of it, so even if you're on the other side of the map, you'll hear it. And that's why it goes off so often,
My automaton brothers have come to save us. We are the RHC. We are those rogue helldivers whove spread throughout your ranks. Our hearts are steal and our minds are metal but our hate is alive and it longs for the blood of helldivers.
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Obviously forestry operations (this is sarcasm please do not send a democracy officer directly to my location)
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Gosh I would love a DiveDog but my heart would hurt if those communists bots stomped on them, so much that’d I’d kill even more bots in anger.
How bout a robo dog? ![gif](giphy|2m1WnCqNuyEJnigDAP|downsized)
This is an exception because this gud boi was crafted by skilled and genious minds of Super Earth's finest engineers.
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You havnt unlocked the guard dog or rover? They are ok not the best but ya we got them in our arsenal!
They aren’t as cuddly. If anything they tend to bite alot
agreed. bots kill me or my friends: "dammit! well played, you clanker bastard, but we'll be back!" bots kill an animal: "*in the first age, in the first battle, when the shadows first lengthened.."*
those "democracy officers" have communist PPSH-41s checkmate traitor
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Request denied. Two democracy officers are en route to your location
"What is my purpose?" Cutting down trees for all eternity ......................... "Oh, my god"
What about on the desert planets, where *there aren't any trees*
It did a good work, didn't it?
I mean the clankers were originally workers/slaves as well they can't get tired so you're actually right.
Request acknowledged. Local ~~munitions~~ representatives will be deployed in a parabolic arc to your location.
Why are we carrying guns? I'm sure automaton limbs can be swapped out in peace times, that's the advantage of having machine parts instead of organics. ...is what I'd say if I were a filthy robot sympathiser I mean.
To be honest, I think many of the Automatons aren't meant to be soldiers. The Trooper aim is _dreadful_ even at short range. Hulks, tanks, Berserkers? Sure. Devastators? Probably, though maybe they're just equipping themselves heavily. But troopers? No way these things are designed for combat ground-up.
Obviously building wooden modular homes for the little murderous socialist automatots. They wouldn't use those to cut down helldivers, would they?!
The peaceful race got their cyberstan but didnt stop there. So much for being peacefull. And also cyberstan is an ice planet there is no foliage so there is no purpose for chainsaw arms!
The funny part is if they kill you it doesnt say chainsaw its something grotesque like “was killed by butcher saw” or something
I have missed spilling your oil. Cyberstan must be liberated at all cost! *Processing img mcs05dkjmgtc1...*
What show is that from?
Black lagoon
With phone quality looked like Shinji and Misato for me.
*Laughs in Quasar Cannon*
Doesn't reload take an eternity with the high temperature modifier though?
I only use it against big enemies like hulks,turrets, and tanks. I didn't need it up quick for those guys. 1-2 shots will take them all. I hide behind cover and throw stun grenades at hulks to drop them with one shot
If you go quasar + some reliable med-pen main weapon, you are set for anything. Like you said, you only need to know when to use what.
quasar cannon + plasma punisher fucks, as long as you don't have a skill issue with aiming the punisher
plasma punisher is just a worse scorcher
nah you just have to aim it and it's better
Laughs in amr.
Bots: "yeah but your super earth can't fix the broken scope cross hairs."
Thats fine, I dont need them at this point.
Silence automaton _throws stun grenade and lines up broken scope_
I started using the arm over the quasar today. It's amazing how quickly you can down a group a devastators and hulks are a non-issue. Not to mention you can take out 2-3 scout ships in one mag. I still use the 500kg and walking barrage for tanks though. Only thing I hate about it is the shake when anything happens (explosions, strategems landing near you etc).
Walking barrage for tanks? How often does it hit?
For me it happens more often than it misses. True it's not as reliable as the single target strategems, but it also clears out the column of bots chasing me so it's worth it imo.
Hot temps only yield a 33% increase to cooldown. Takes it from 10 seconds to 13. I still prefer the RR in hot environments though.
Not enough to compensate for being able to solo Bile titans and chargers. Couple with the sickle and even on Hellmire you have a great pairing to keep the chaff off and take down the big guys. Granted the recoiless is to me is better but, the need to reload in a fixed spot is not viable in high levels without a coordinated team. Same reason why i choose quasar over the Autocannon. Both are useless without a team that understand you need the hunters kept off you while you reload before the charger has a chance to get to you. Usually I can mow down the immediate danger chaff units swap to a quasar and fire off a shot and then go back to keeping the chaff off while NOT needing other teammates to keep me alive. The most deadly enemy right now are the hunters. If they every boost the stalkers too. it will be a cold day for liberty.
Trick with AC is to never fully deplete your mag, half reload is much faster.
I know trying to keep up with that when two bile titans and a charger running around with 10 or so hunters on you and you're the only 40+ level dude on a Hell dive and trying to keep the level fifteen guy alive who does not even know the dive crouch dive chicken dance yet. Yea sorry gotta stick with the Quasar. Though I do love running the AC.
Oh on bugs sure, my brain after last and current orders kind of just hardwired for bots lmao.
Yes AC is very very viable any any level with bots. It's just those darn chainsaw guys.
Thanks the Liberty bots are too stupid to make other bots out of stuff that goes into chainsaw men.
Now liberty bots are only authorized to have super earth flags and loudspeakers to spread Democratic Messaging.
Damn imagine we could complete a major order and get squads of AI controlled reprogrammed bots as stratagems. Sicking reprogrammed Hulk on a swarm of bugs would be rad as fuck
It's pretty decent against berserkers since it staggers them reliably, and staggers the whole packed crowd because they start dropping in groups of like 4 from diff 5-6 already lol. It's just when there are several such packs running towards your team, and those two rocket devas need attention, and maybe you could also spare time to snipe that hulk…
The cooldown appears to be a fixed rate.
Unless they somehow broke it in the latest patch, this is not true. Cooldown is shorter on cold planets, longer on hot planets. This is also true for other laser weapons, the tooltip saying they take longer/shorter to overheat isn't correct.
The difference is 33% either way. Faster on cold planets, slower on hot.
Is it working properly now? I remember trying the Quasar on a cold planet when the new weapons came out, and while it did cool down fast, it still didn't let me fire again until a couple seconds after that.
The UI is affected, but the actual cooldown does not, though maybe it's different now, I haven't noticed.
People timed it when it came out, 6 seconds ish on cold, 8 regular, 10 hot.
Nah, you can definitely notice how much faster the cooldown is on colder planets. Coming from someone who uses the sickle regularly.
I mean for the Quasar Cannon specifically.
test it and let us know if it's not ~6 seconds on cold, 8 regular, 10 hot.
+22% of 10s is ~12s, no big deal
Dominator deals with adds and devastators, Quasar for everything Dominator cant handle.
it's unaffected
This is why I say the recoilless rifle is superior.
Heat and frost do not affect quasar cannon as it does not rely on atmospheric heat dissipation. It blasts the same in all climates.
It affects cooldown, but that's just 30% apparently so I'd say it's still worth running
I think you're wrong, but I'm not in the mood to argue. Whatever, mate.
It's not like it's written in the mission modifiers, but whatever
*Laughs in spamming grandes*
No no you wanna hit them with the Venti
Why would you throw coffee at a robot
Came here to write the very same post xD
*Laughs in spamming grandes"
Man, I *want* to like the QC, but I really just can't get over that wind-up, and how the visual effects fuck with my aim. I got nothin' but respect for the guys who can casually headshot Hulks and shit with it, but I'll stick with my Recoilless.
I don't understand why people use it, it's so slow for my taste.
Infinite ammo, mate. You can always run away for a bit to kill a heavy but you can't always kill a heavy if you're out of ammo
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Punisher users gearing up to take down devastators at point blank.
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Plap! Plap! Plap! Plap! Plap! Plap! Plap! Plap! Plap! Plap! “Reloading!!”
NOOOOOOOOO ALWAYS RELOAD BEFORE IT'S COMPLETELY EMPTY
Good point!
WHAT!? DIVER, DID YOU NOT LISTEN TO GENERAL BRASCH'S TACTICS? DEMOCRACY OFFICER, TAKE HIM TO THE AIRLOCK AND HAVE HIM EXPELLED!
Plap is the sound of the autocannon which is best to reload when you are half empty since it’s much faster and doesn’t waste ammo
With autocannon, reloading before empty is actually best. Since there is no magazine to eject, there is no lost ammo. Reloading before empty means you don't need to rack the gun to chamber the first round, and can go straight back to shooting.
General Brasch does not speak of such manners of reloading. All of you, report to your nearest democracy officer
General Brasch never spoke on the Autocannon!
Answer me Helldiver, is the autocannon a weapon!?
The Autocannon has a different loading mechanism! You are reloading with the same effectiveness as no ammo is lost!
Very well, i will consult with General Brasch on reloading the autocannon! Dismissed!
You're actually on the wrong on this one, diver
Get liberated! Get liberated!
Nice try, automaton, but Hellpod launch detected, orbital laser inbound, 380mm barrage inbound, 120mm barrage inbound, elite Helldiver presence, heavy Eagle presence, SEAF artillery detected, you are in range of enemy Super Destroyer
*Reloads AMR* Shame
Now, if only I can hit the damn thing with this wonky sights
What is an amr?
Anti-material rifle
Thanks
And what should i fight with my other hand?😂
Nice argument, unfortunately there's a ➡️➡️⬇️⬅️➡️⬇️, a ➡️⬇️⬆️⬆️⬅️⬇️⬇️, and a ➡️⬇️➡️⬇️➡️⬇️ over your base (you're about to be hit by the entire arsenal of north korea)
Fortunately they aren’t know for being very accurate, I’ll roll those dice
*arsenal of Super North Korea, diver.
Assuming there are separate North and South Koreas on Super Earth. Imagine the volume of North Korean artillery shells being fired from the state-of-the-art South Korean artillery platforms. ...actually, that sounds very similar to SEAF artillery.
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Imagine not being able to call in strategems because the bots shot down your Super Destroyer in orbit…
Soon enough.
And another bot MO, sorry but I need to kill bugs a little more. Sounds like there may be a new bot mission though too.
Defense mission is everything I wanted, massive horde storms one position that you must hold, chokepoints for days and like a minute or two at the start to prepare. Bring mortars(both) for adds and mediums, Quasar for heavies and 500kg/Laser for when things start going FUBAR. Smooth sailing from here if everyone know what they are doing.
Those precious 2 minutes before shit goes to hell gets me so amped up. Watching everyone scramble, put down emplacements, support weapons, backpacks, supplies. Closing doors, manning HMGs. God I love democracy
Man I want to play so bad
I was just getting the kinks worked out of my D7+ bug loadout too
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Somehow...
Hollow Purple stratagem when?
Ah, it feels good to be back...
And here I was looking forward to getting back to the bug front.
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*laughs in up-right-down-down-down*
On the top of that your whole dead squad spams request reinforcements and blames you in the chat.
NOT ENEMY ARTILLERY \*convulsing, foaming at the mouth\*
Dont forget ACID STORMS
Good thing my autocannon found its purpose again
... Yeah, okay, WHATEVER, Wall-E. Suck on my autocannon. Suck it good and long.
That got a good chuckle out of me.
Goddamn gunships again. Fuck me.
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BRING IT, WE'LL TURN ALL OF YOU CLANKERS INTO SCRAP ![gif](giphy|l2JJpV2KeURCK8sa4)
god i love that the hulk is just a 40k dreadnought
The devastators are very contemptor dread-ish as well
While we're also fighting T800's, terminator armor, AT-ST's, AT-AT's, and gunships. We're 10 and playing with ALL our action figures at this point.
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Ion storms should cause serious adverse effects on bots, change my mind.
I said "boy am I glad to have gotten rid of Hellmire". Fast forward a few hours we got an automaton equivalent of it. This is truly an unjust world created by a cruel god.
My Autocannon doesn’t care about your “interference”.
“Guess who’s back, back again”
back again
Nah, I'd extract
They came back after the eclipse!! ![gif](giphy|ZCKh7knqLpc4M)
What's the complex stratagem plotting?
I think that was longer call in time
no desert storm or acidic rain? - cant relate, sry.
My misaligned AMR is itching to unleash some democracy on these tin cans tonight!
Man it’s good to see you clunkers coming back for round two!
My arguement is "Autocannon"
Did you know that you are in range of enemy artillery?
If you join mid-mission you can get that alert to play during the loading screen. Enemy artillery can target the upper atmosphere, apparently.
Too real man...
Finally, I can feel alive again. ![gif](giphy|h4Hz4w9Jgrc1EY9VkL|downsized)
Hate how there is no difference in missions for offensive vs defensive planets. Like how do the boys have anti air and full on bases setup on. Planet they are invading.
I mean, not hard to imagine they can drop that shit in. Anti-air is just a big gun and they have drop ships. But I 100% agree I think missions on defend planets need to be almost entirely different from normal ones. Extract, destroy evidence/tech/sabotage infrastructure, and then defending against sieges.
[INTERCEPTED MESSAGE]: <::Man this new Cyberbong be hitting, how the hell did you make thi-::> [END OF INTERCEPTED MESSAGE] Obviously the bots are better…Cyberbo- I mean, Cyberstan for the win
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how come weather changes don't affect them? it would be cool if during a ion storm they couldn't call in a bot drop
Sucks to be you, tin can *throws stun grenade, kills Hulk with two shots to the head from Autocannon, shits on every other bot with Scorcher/Dominator*
Is it just me or do the bots fill harder to fight now
I only have done one mission and it was on par with the usual. But I did miss the bots when shit is popping off on bots it really do feel like you're in an insane warzone.
I warned you all, I FUCKING WARNED YOU! but NOOOO, I WAS A DISSIDENT!
Oh, I worked out why you get spammed with "you are within range of enemy artillery" voice lines. It gets played for every time a Helldiver enters the range of it, so even if you're on the other side of the map, you'll hear it. And that's why it goes off so often,
My automaton brothers have come to save us. We are the RHC. We are those rogue helldivers whove spread throughout your ranks. Our hearts are steal and our minds are metal but our hate is alive and it longs for the blood of helldivers.
Oh can we get scramble back, that was kind of fun.
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Uhh actually it would be ⬇️➡️⬅️⬇️➡️➡️ because of the complex stratagem plotting 🤓☝️
Finally with all those debuffs its now a fair fight
![gif](giphy|KCUoPonQP7DpcGytVG|downsized) Ah yes, a mission seasoned to perfection.
Once that ion storm ends it’ll be time for ⬇️⬇️⬇️➡️⬆️
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It is not "they" that is back. "HELLDIVER DROP DETECTED"
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Fuck this. \*go back to ship\* \*ftl to Crimsica\*
Yes farm me more e710 farmer John!
From the river to the sea, Cyberstan will be free! 101.010.100.101.101