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SlyRoundaboutWay

I'm not saying I'm gonna judge you if you duck hunt with that, but everyone else is gonna judge you.


mp3006

He will only use it for duck hunting once, won’t hit anything, then realize self defense shotguns don’t pattern like hunting shotguns


Particular-Listen-63

He would have to understand what “pattern” means first.


ruralnorthernmisfit

Like, Plaid?


Particular-Listen-63

Thats only the Scottish ones.


13yellow13

Ok, that got me


Houston_Skin

That's tartan


Particular-Listen-63

Aye.


Content-Connoisseur

Why don't you explain it to him then instead of making sly comments? Everyone starts somewhere.


Aurora-Optic

Can you please explain more?


NecessaryRisk2622

Sure they can, with the right barrel, and choke, and ammo.


dickamus_maxamus

All it would REALLY need is a choke.


mp3006

And a longer barrel, and a smooth action, and a longer action to take over 2 3/4


SlySpoonie

I would judge


BoardsOfCanadia

It’s me, I’m everyone else


Sad-Command8083

Unless you’re in a close-quarters situation with a duck, and need self-defense!


Roguspogus

Yes fuck that Aflac guy


fellowworkingmexican

That duck had a knife, we all saw it


Admirable_Set8360

Just buy a Mossberg 500 or a used Winchester 1300. Both great pump guns and you can also find home defense barrels for them.


RutCry

Remington 870 is my do-all shotgun and I am totally happy with it.


SwimmerSea4662

Or if you want a budget shotgun get a mossberg 88


ryanmh27

Yup. Got a 500 and a 88. I almost prefer the 88, but the 500 is lighter and has double action bars. That being said, the little extra weight cuts down on the shoulder bruising.


In7018wetrust

This right here ^ I have a Maverick 88, probably 4500 rounds through it shooting clays and waterfowl. Never had any problems and shoots true. Ugly and unrefined, but reliable as hell.


Terriblyboard

+1 for used Winchester 1300 (not sx3)


00owl

I have an sx4 and I love it.


Admirable_Set8360

I have one that I've use for skeet, rabbit, ducks, etc. It sure as shit can fuck up some pumpkins and I've probably shot 1000 rounds through it.


Kveldulfiii

Maverick 88 is cheaper and you can get the field/security combo for a 28” and 18.5” barrels.


jm850_615

The pistol grip makes for extremely awkward wingshooting


DifferenceNo1805

Mossberg mav88/500/590 or a used Remington 870 can do the same for better. Knowing that Taurus cheaps out on their parts, don’t expect the furniture to be comfortable when shooting (worst case scenario it can break).


Right-Lengthiness875

Not advisable. This gun will present challenges in hitting birds on the wing. Also, many in the wing shooting community will see hunting birds with this firearm as crass.


Quick_Zucchini_8678

"tactical" pattern shotguns don't make good duck guns. It could work as a slug gun for deer at 0-70 yards or so but basically any shotgun can do that. For birdshot you want a long (26-28") barrel and a cylinder choke


jeffs_sessions

Cylinder choke for ducks? Mod and improved (or somewhere in between) is what most people use.


scuricide

Yeah never heard of using cylinder choke for anything besides clays.


Quick_Zucchini_8678

*improved cylinder my bad


StuntsMonkey

A lot of guns have interchangeable chokes and are still very affordable


mp3006

Doesn’t make them good duck guns


StuntsMonkey

True, but it's a feature I like to have on my duck guns


WildlyWeasel

There's only so much a choke will do for keeping the load tight. Lot of velocity loss in 18.5 vs 26-28 inch barrels, too.


SakanaToDoubutsu

There is no velocity loss with shorter barrels in shotguns, the shot column is basically up to speed within the first 14" of barrel and usually there's less than 100fps of additional velocity in barrels longer than 14".


Honeybadger747

100 fps + is significant for shotguns, IMO


Tacoma82

It's significant for rifles also


StuntsMonkey

Oh, for sure. I just like having options for the occasional time I need them. I have a 28 inch barrel on mine and as far as hunting is concerned I have zero regrets.


WestConference6851

Without a different choke you’re just wasting ammo


speckyradge

I would advise against it for a few reasons. Pistol grip is awkward, you'll need to install a plug in the tube to be legal but the muzzle end is what concerns me most. I can't tell if that's a brake or a flash hider - I would steer very clear of anyone with a muzzle brake on their gun while duck hunting. Have you ever been "rung" by someone else in a blind or layout? This is when someone over swings and is pointing vaguely in your direction when they fire. Not direct enough to actually shoot you but it fucks up your ears and is very unpleasant even with ear pro. I've never been next to a braked shotgun but with rifles I've had the same issue when they're pointed away from me, the brake directs the muzzle blast to the person beside the shooter. I would also guess that the brake means it doesn't have interchangeable chokes. If it's cylinder bore you'll have massive holes in your pattern after probably 25 yards.


Agile-Arugula-6545

I’ve been rung. Not fun


ChooseExactUsername

I don't have brake on my shotgun. I do have a brake on my hunting rifle. When I'm hunting with other folks they're informed beforehand. DON'T stand behind me to the left or right, only directly behind me.


Worst-hunter-ever

Yes there is no interchangeable choke, also the barrel is rifled in a hélicoïdal pattern which apparently make up for the fact that it’s rifled


speckyradge

Rifled shotgun barrels are meant for slugs. Putting shot through it will, I think, give you a terrible pattern. You might get away with it with some shells depending on the wad they use.


Worst-hunter-ever

Legislation here allow only for rifled barrel when using shotguns. That’s why people buy hélicoïdal pattern to I guess cheat on the regulation here


speckyradge

Oh interesting, what country are you in?


Worst-hunter-ever

France


LukaLover42069

I guess I'm more wondering why you'd want to shoot ducks with a tactical shotgun? Can it be done, sure... Is it the right tool for the job? No. It's like using a framing hammer for finish work.


Worst-hunter-ever

I just liked the design and was wondering about you guys opinion. In my hunting class they don’t teach often about shotgun so I just choose a model that looked cool and seemed reliable


TheLastNobleman

Just like others are saying, with a pistol grip and duck hunting is awkward and shitty. My buddy tried it one day, and I shot a few times for it, and following up would SEEM like it would be easier with a pistol grip but I find it getting in the way and turning is tricky.


delayedtakeoff

That thing is ugly as fuck, unnecessary optic mount, can’t swap chokes, etc. It definitely isn’t a bird gun and you’ll end up wanting something else the first time you take it out hunting. Get a mossberg 500 or a Remington 870 to start bird hunting.


theoriginaldandan

Don’t do it, friends don’t let friends buy Taurus. If you want a gun to use for both HD and hunting, get a mossberg500/590/88 or Remington 870 and a 18 inch barrel and a 28 inch. 18 for home 28 for the birds. Even if you ignore everything else I say , don’t try to hunt birds or squirrels with a pistol gripped shotgun. It’s a big hinderance


rage_buffalo

100% everything said here is accurate!!!


mokelly31

turkeys are well suited for a pistol grip, otherwise agree


DojaPaddy

My FIL insisted on bringing his home defense shotgun duck hunting with me last year. He asked to switch to my backup 12 gauge after one pass. He realized he wasn’t even touching them hardly.


Worst-hunter-ever

This is good advice. Considering it’s gonna be my first hunting gun, I might want to get something reliable first and then get something good for home defense after


finnbee2

Buy a Mossberg 500, Maverick, or any other pump that you can change barrels on. Buy a second barrel and with a plug to reduce the capacity to three you are good to go. Personally I'd stay with well known brands such as Winchester, CZ, Weatherby, Benelli, and some Remington.


Electronic_City6481

Yes.


Electronic_City6481

All wrong for duck hunting, right on for home defense. On the flip side you can defend your home just as well with a shotgun built for wing shooting.


curtludwig

You could probably find a worse choice but you'd have to really search...


Prior-Champion65

If you like being made fun of while also struggling to swing on targets, yes. I’ve shot the most ducks with an 870 but I currently use a rem 1100 and French affinity 3.


Notathrowaway4853

I went skeet shooting and a guy was there with a pistol grip assault shotgun. Smoked nearly every clay. So if you can bring home the meat, go for it. You gotta own it though, when flushing the birds you gotta yell NYPD! Hands Up!


Worst-hunter-ever

Ahah your joke cracked me up


lil__squeaky

this is more a clearing building shotgun then a shooting birds on the plain. look into less tacticool stuff like a 1100.


Kevthebassman

I can promise you, you wouldn’t get to hunt over my dog if you showed up with that.


rage_buffalo

Don't buy that firearm for any reason... there are much better options in the market at the same price point. So many better options.


BeerGunsMusicFood

Yes I would advise against it.


Ninja-man-420

You would probably be better with a sling shot😂or the thing that the Indians use with the rocks and string. 


maodiver1

Short barrel = too wide of a pattern at shooting distance.


fumfer1

Barrel length does not make a hoot of difference, the choke is what matters.


maodiver1

Now take that 22” barrel out to the duck blind, and try to hit 30-40 yd shots. Or further for geese. I will keep the 30-32” barrel. Sure the little barrel swings better, but the pattern is whack because the wad came off sooner


maodiver1

Cool story bro


fumfer1

https://gunmagwarehouse.com/blog/did-you-know-that-shotgun-barrel-length-doesnt-affect-pattern/#:~:text=Shotgun%20barrel%20length%20doesn't%20affect%20patterning.,which%20delivers%20a%20tighter%20pattern.


[deleted]

Wait until TFB does a burndown with one. James Reeves has been trashing cheap shotguns, mostly within 500 rounds...


MakarovJAC

Dude, no. If you value your money, time, and health, don't. Taurus not even once.


No-Video5429

Get a Mossberg 500 12ga


IHSV1855

Yes, absolutely. That is a combat shotgun. It would be extremely difficult to hunt birds well with it.


CookieCutterU

Yes, I would strongly advise against it. And totally judge you as a noob to both firearms and hunting. 


funkydawg68

If you don’t have the money for both. Buy a hunting shotgun and use it for home defense. Don’t buy a home defense shotgun and use it for hunting.


Worst-hunter-ever

great advice man


MTNZPLZ

It’s perfect If you are planning on breaching the entrance to the blind.


EfficiencyIcy8821

For the love of god, dont hunt with this


dcc464

Rem 870 with Blackhawk knoxx will give you basically the same set-up but with a full length barrel and the ability to swap chokes


tinypeepoo

I would buy it only if you have an issue with Canadian Geese in your hood.


ChooseExactUsername

Those "Cobra Chickens".... Can't trust 'em


TimmO208

That thing hammering against your palm and wrist all day long? I mean.... Give it a try and report back.


Maleficent_Deal8140

1. I would never own a Taurus 2. I would never hunt waterfowl with a 19" barrel. 3. I would never own a taurus.


Content-Connoisseur

Dear OP, trust me on this. Get a mav 88, they got a combo that comes with both hunting and home defense barrels. It's cheap and extremely reliable and extremely customizable. You can always upgrade in the future.


supertucci

And in some places you'll need to make sure there's a plug in there so it can only hold the requisite maximum number of shells.


WesbroBaptstBarNGril

Like the entirety of the US


Worst-hunter-ever

How many shells can you guys hunt with inside ?


F3nom3ni

3


Teh_Critic

When hunting migratory waterfowl, it's federal law, 2+1 max


Many_Rope6105

Wouldnt be bad for ducks/geese under 30yrds, anything more than that you WILL want a better barrel, interchangeable chokes. And I didnt see anybody else post, but if you hunt ANY migratory bird you had better have the gun blocked to only hold 3 rounds total, tube & chamber. Thats Federal, and VERY Expensive if your version of D.N.R. Catch you, all hunting guns come with a rod already in the tube, can say about tactical guns have never bought one


Worst-hunter-ever

Those laws don’t apply to me because I don’t live in the us, however yeah it doesn’t seem to be the shotgun it tought it would be for duck hunting


Elk-Assassin-8x6

Sorry man. You would be judged. Alot !!!!!!!!


Worst-hunter-ever

Yeah this is not a problem I’m more focused on what can I do with the weapon or not than people judging me


this_guy_here_says

Personally I own a pistol grip and conventional grip shotguns , the pistol grip is a good truck gun for up close things like grouse , the conventional is my first gun, so I've put much more time into it , and I can hit even the furthest pigeon with it . At the end of the day it's whatever works best for you, everyone shoots a bit different


Immediate_Total_7294

I mean, a shotgun is a shotgun so it ought to do the trick.


AerieTop4643

Improve Cylinder choke


UHCoog2011

When I was getting back into shotguns, my uncle, an avid duck hunter, said always go with the 3 B’s. Beretta, Benelli, Browning. I couldn’t agree more. You definitely pay more, but my shotguns have held up very well with hunting and sporting clays. I’ve seen lots of guys have issues with other brands. Keep them clean and your shotgun will treat you well.


Honeybadger747

If you hunt with buddies, they will not appreciate the muzzle brake lol For duck hunting get something simple with 28-30" barrel. Forward weight balance is what you want


Either-Ease-2674

Just buy an 890 man, as long as you clean it and store it correctly you’ll most likely never have to buy another shotgun for the rest of your life. A Taurus might last you 5 years.


LongjumpingBrick3808

I got a great deal on a CZ 1012 shotgun. I also have a home defense shotgun. You’re definitely going to want a longer barrel. It’s achievable but it’ll be harder to hit them. I advise against it for hunting.


Drakoneous

Wouldn’t work very well and in most places would be illegal for hunting waterfowl in it’s stock configuration anyway


throwaway392145

I have no experience with Taurus, but if I was starting out today I’d consider a mossberg 500 or a browning bps. (If I was buying a brand new gun. If I remember correctly mossbergs used to use a single rail on their pumps that was known to twist, but that’s a VERY old problem) If I was buying used guns, I’d look for an older Remington 870 or Winchester 1300 or browning bps. They are reliable, easy to clean and (for the price) have easy actions you can be a little rough on in the excitement of heat of the moment. An 870 can fall in the river and with some oil and action cleaner can be putting out rounds again in 20 minutes. (I’m talking a drop in, not 3 days in the river here) If you want to buy new and buy once cry once, probably an A400 or SBE3. While I understand the price on these can be prohibitive, it’s nice to have dreams. Ideally I would look for a vent rib barrel, front bead (mid barrel bead also if I could, though this really only matters until you’ve dialed in your shooting) and a standard stock with a good recoil pad on the butt. If you’re looking for something that’s also tactical, for something like home defence(not legal where I am) the Remingtons and mossbergs sell endless versions of stocks, sights, mlok attachments and barrel modifications. Most of these are very very simple things you can do at home with maybe 3 tools, and you can switch a complete rig in under an hour from hunting to hd.


Citizen_Ape

Lol. Wut?


nastygirl11b

I would absolutely advise against it for duck hunting Short barrel, likely non threaded so stick with an open/cylinder bore, pistol grip is no good for your swing


Tacoma82

Is "duck hunting" code for something that requires breaching and clearing?


Worst-hunter-ever

Ahah you cracked me up, it might be 🤭


ShortnPortly

I want you to old the pistol grip and then look up.


bbake33

Instead of making fun of you, I'll just tell you. No, it will not. Self-defense guns have a shorter barrel and are designed for short-range. And most of them won't allow a choke. You need a long barrel with the ability to change out the choke to duck hunt. Also, a lot of duck hunting guns have a camo or Matt black finish. This is so the barrel doesn't glare in the sun. You would be better off buy a mossberg 88 not the security one or a remington 870. Both very cheap and reliable. I myself shoot a benelli nova. Bought it 20 years ago used and have shot thousands of birds with it


Shryk92

If you want a good pump gun for ducks a benelli supernova is a great choice


Random21994

Literally anyone who's ever duck hunted would advise against that. Just grab a mossberg 88 with a field barrel


Snarknado3

yes me


feelinandreelin

Yeah. Drop the grip. Get an 870 for cheap and nail them


Big_Boi_Joe02

I would advise against Taurus in general. Add on that it’s a tactical shotgun…


Cowboyo771

If it kills, it works. If that’s your preference, go for it!