Apparently it was over the Control verse where Kendrick claimed to bee the King of New York. Diddy didn't like that and try to pour a drink of Dot. Cole stepped in and stopped it
Yh diddy confronted Kendrick after what he said on control saying "I'm the king of NY" and all that, it got physical apparently but J Cole stepped in and defended Kendrick
This just further proves that he fw Kendrick heavy and that's why he didn't want to beef with him lol. He values their friendship more than proving the world he's the best. Cole is just a overall good, nice dude.
I mean, in context it sounds hard as fuck - I don't disagree that rhymes can get too 'up their own ass' but I do disagree that this is an instance of that, and a lot of it has to do with its delivery. But it's also worth noting it's not much of a tongue twister because it's really not very difficult to say
People mistake being āsoftā for having emotional control and not acting like an overly-aggressive idiot. People who walk around acting āhardā are usually the most mentally weak and insecure! Smart people know how to pick battles and donāt walk around like everyone is their enemy.
I remember being in the playground in like 2003 talking about music and the other kids talking about how Diddy made his rappers suck him off or some other weird shit. Crazy how long those rumors have been around
I always got hand-me-downs from the kid across the street who was a couple years older, his mom would watch me after school and always kept me in nicer clothes since we were struggling.
His dad was a smaller independent rapper in NY/Philly and I remember him coming to pick him up for his weekend visits and telling me not to wear his sons old Sean John shirts because diddy was a f*ggot. Had no clue what he was talking about but I stopped wearing it to school after that.
Blud was referencing Wayne Williams. Part of his whole mafia/no limit crime shtick. According to c-gutta he hated that line cause it made him look like a pedo lmao (which, yes, is what a pedo would say! But to be fair to him he was never alleged for those crimes so I think we can believe that biggie was talking shit. Biggie also calls himself a pedo in dead wrong, but at least he was dead when it released)
By-the-by, i always find it funny what crimes get a pass in rap and what doesn't. Like y'all get upset over pedo shit a kind woman beaters (which is the right reaction) but your totally fine with rappers putting poison into your families and ruining whole neighbourhood, and somehow its actually more authentic if they really do it? š¤
I forget where I read this but isnāt this in reference to Drake going to a movie with his drunk friend and his friend just stands up all drunk and starts pissing on the seat he was sitting in only for it to splash back on Drake who was sitting next to him and then Drake storms out of the theatre all pissed off? Tuff
There is a rumour that he spoke to Kendrick after he released his diss & kendrick told him this wasnāt going to just be about trying to out rap each other. I think Cole was under the assumption this was just going to be a rap battle at first
Me too. I believe that was the real reason behind Cole deciding to apologise. I think he wouldāve joined in & attempted to out rap both of them but heās not the type of guy to get into it on a personal level. I really think people in both Kendrickās & Coleās camps were in communication & Kendricks plans made itās way back to Cole before they spoke
always found it weird that he followed that line with "now i know too much". He def knew some shit about diddy. kindda out of character for him to keep silent tho.
All of the artist that have spoke out about him havenāt really said anything incriminating, that should show you how dangerous he is, theyāve been to his house and saw everything yet canāt say anything above surface level
I give him props for making his own choice. Hard to do when your fans call for war. Not to disrupt or compromise oneās own peace is a priority regardless of your craft or job. Fame is to risk becoming a pawn to masses if you fear losing their approval and lose yourself in the process.
Out of every rapper or entertainer j. Cole is the dude where I feel like me and him could genuinely be friends. No ego, no fake persona, he is just him.
Being humble, prioritising mental peace over beefs, not promoting albums are CHOICES.
Otherwise we all know he can F anyone up with his verses.
He can come up with his version of Control verse (like Kendrick).
HE CHOOSES NOT TO COZ HE'S NOT STUPID.
MIDDLE CHILD - āBut I'd never beef with a nigga for nothin', If I smoke a rapper, it's gon' be legit, It won't be for clout, it won't be for fame, It won't be 'cause my shit ain't sellin' the same, It won't be to sell you my latest lil' sneakers, It won't be 'cause some nigga slid in my lane, Everything grows, it's destined to changeā and I just feel like people donāt realize J Cole has nothing against Kendrick and respects him as an artist and he just did it all for the fans in a lapse of judgement
Source?
I could only find one video on YouTube on Jcole and Diddy fighting, and the only thing I found was a play fight that made it seem like they were best friends. Where can I at least see an article about this?
Yeah I remember that story
Apparently Diddy took offense to the King of New York line by Kendrick on Control and tried to pour a drink on him to humiliate him and Cole wasn't having that and defended him
It had been reported that the two got into a dual at the after-party of the MTV Video Music Awards. Rumor had it thatĀ Cole was dancing too close to Diddy's then-girlfriend and singer Cassie Ventura, leading to the two men getting into aĀ fight
This was when Kendrick dropped his control verse and Diddy had an issue with him saying heās the king of both cost and tried to press him in the club when he saw him and Cole was with Kendrick and was like wtf you got the physical advantage on my guy if you want to throw hands catch mine!
Soft and heās feeling it, even his fans are turning on him with his recent verse, you canāt just say āsaying my name in a verse will killā and then someone does it and he apologizesā¦
Then he bowed out of the big 3. Then he went n made āgrippyā. I canāt cape for em anymore dawg. The Lās are too stacked. He be disrespecting himself crazy at this point.
The real villain here is Cash Cobain lol. Coleās verse is illegal, so many rappers have played on the same theme haha but his delivery (amidst current climate) is cringey. Itās so bad; I wonder if itāll get streams/plays just cause folks are roasting it
Grippy was just a bad song. I don't think Jcole is a bad artist, I feel like he ruined his image with the apology, I also stopped supporting him over that transphobic bar. All in all I think people are overreacting to the song.
Nahh I remember hearing about it on the radio it was at some award show
Cole called him out about killing Tupac and he 2 pieced em and Diddy fell and started grabbing him
J.Cole didn't slap Diddy he broke up an altercation lmao.
And it is what it is. It's wack he waved the white flag and apologized, and as an MC, it discredits him. Kendrick told everyone, it's love behind the scenes but get on the mic, and he's tryna murder everyone.
If you call yourself the best, the Muhammad Ali of Rap, and someone challenges you and you talk tough, then apologize because you're scared of the consequences, that's cowardice. Cole is still a great rapper, but he also happens to be a coward, and there's nothing wrong with that. I'm still gonna listen to his music.
And btw it's time we hold rappers accountable. If the song sucks, people should tell the artist. Hopefully, that artist goes back to the booth and comes back with hotter shit.
I love Cole, but quite franklyā¦ dudes a bitch. All rappers genuinely are. Cole roasted someone then apologized and took the song down. Thatās gay asf š¤”
"it's.. it's...it's.. grippy"
-Jcole
"I was gonna kill a couple rappers but they did it to themselves
Everybody's suicidal they don't even need my help"
-Kendrick Lamar
He needs to stop commenting dumb ass shit on trans people like a sly shitbag in his songs before he ever gets recognition again.
Ya ain't slick and it's hypocritical to his the "conscious" rap movement he's always supported.
How a dude who pop off with crooked smile then revert so hard to tell people not to be themselves - or "confused". Apparently he's been confused about his own message for a long while.
J Cole slapped diddy and drake got slapped by diddy. Prolly smth smart I can say about this but I cant be asked
And apparently Cole slapped Diddy in defense of Kendrick.
Everyone smaking diddy now?š
Nah, but story goes diddy was disrespecting kendrick and J Cole stood up for him
I heard that slap was Grippy
Aw hell naw šš
The trolling is too funny
Just like diddy. No diddy
Apparently it was over the Control verse where Kendrick claimed to bee the King of New York. Diddy didn't like that and try to pour a drink of Dot. Cole stepped in and stopped it
Yh diddy confronted Kendrick after what he said on control saying "I'm the king of NY" and all that, it got physical apparently but J Cole stepped in and defended Kendrick
Only fair after he's been smackin' them cheeks all these years.
They'll be smacking his cheeks once he ends up in prison š
This just further proves that he fw Kendrick heavy and that's why he didn't want to beef with him lol. He values their friendship more than proving the world he's the best. Cole is just a overall good, nice dude.
Should've picked up kendrick and let him go kung fu kenny on his ass. smh
Cole is goated for slapping Diddy. Someone needed to do it
Yep. This is true. Diddy is always attacking people and Cole stuck up for Lil Kenny.
Arsed
J cole outslaps drake basically
Transitive property. Math checks out 
"Keep my Diddy out your MF mouth" -Will Smith for some reason
J Cole slapped Drake through Diddy by the transitive property š¤£
God damn this place is turning into tik tok with how people just repeating comments they just read damn
I didn't know people were saying that already lol I was just adding to what he said cause I thought it was funny
I gotchu bro! You shouldāve finished it with ātherefore, by transitive property J Cole slapped Drakeā. There ya go!
That's some high level paper rock scissors
Canāt be āaskedā ?
You got all the pieces someone just has to put them together
What is Smth smart?
Trust meā¦ heās not the only rapper to put both hands on The Diddler š
Dead in the middle of little Italy Little did we know that we riddled two middlemen who didn't do diddly
Itāll be a cold day in hell the day I take an L
TIL these are the lyrics, Ive listened to this song probably a thousand times over my life and always thought it was āthe day im taken outā
Iām with you.
Make no mistake, for real, I wouldnāt hesitate to kill
Wait that line was about diddy? Lol
Oh, sorry - no. Just thought it sounded funny in the context
Probably my most favorite Big Pun line, just on the cadence and delivery. Dream Shatterer still holds out for me as a masterclass in 90's hip-hop/rap.
No it was not
R.I.P Pun
This bar has too much rhyming. More of a tongue twister than a bar really
I mean, in context it sounds hard as fuck - I don't disagree that rhymes can get too 'up their own ass' but I do disagree that this is an instance of that, and a lot of it has to do with its delivery. But it's also worth noting it's not much of a tongue twister because it's really not very difficult to say
Heās one of the few that didnāt pop their back like a pringle for diddy
Not like a pringle
Which is sad for diddy because you know it's... #Grippy ^(uh grippy)
Diddy turning meek strictly dickly š
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People saying cole is soft like they wouldn't dickride him if they saw him on the street. Fake mfs fr
GRIPPY frfr
If I saw him in the street I would give him a dollar bc he looks homeless
Get your money up cuz he could buy your house and raise ur rent
Bro is bouncing and doing tricks on it, thatās crazy.
If I saw Cole in the streets Iād prolly say āWow that looks like J. Coleā
idk if you're referencing it but there's literally a video of that happening lol
ppl love to call J Cole soft but how can he be soft when I'm riding hard?
People mistake being āsoftā for having emotional control and not acting like an overly-aggressive idiot. People who walk around acting āhardā are usually the most mentally weak and insecure! Smart people know how to pick battles and donāt walk around like everyone is their enemy.
This. x100000
Pause
Ayo
That shit was so gay it was funny.
lol shut up man š
šš
Omds
Dam bros really spitting, not bars though.
It's the: "Now I know too much" for me, given everything we hearing about Diddy, did he low-key call him out in that line
Yeah makes sense after everything we know now.
I remember being in the playground in like 2003 talking about music and the other kids talking about how Diddy made his rappers suck him off or some other weird shit. Crazy how long those rumors have been around
I always got hand-me-downs from the kid across the street who was a couple years older, his mom would watch me after school and always kept me in nicer clothes since we were struggling. His dad was a smaller independent rapper in NY/Philly and I remember him coming to pick him up for his weekend visits and telling me not to wear his sons old Sean John shirts because diddy was a f*ggot. Had no clue what he was talking about but I stopped wearing it to school after that.
You what
šššbro said he got handy downs from the kid across the street
Bro thatās the funniest typo Iāve seen in a minuteš
Wtf
Ignorance is bliss, and innocence is just ignorance Before itās introduced to currency and clips Or bad licks that have a š„·š½servin 3 to 6
I think a lot of rappers put hands on Diddy, and the ones who did it the best he kept around.
Was Biggie always on good terms with Diddy?
He has some good songs, but Biggie bragged about having a homeboy that Diddied children and killed them, I'm not a Biggie defender.
Blud was referencing Wayne Williams. Part of his whole mafia/no limit crime shtick. According to c-gutta he hated that line cause it made him look like a pedo lmao (which, yes, is what a pedo would say! But to be fair to him he was never alleged for those crimes so I think we can believe that biggie was talking shit. Biggie also calls himself a pedo in dead wrong, but at least he was dead when it released) By-the-by, i always find it funny what crimes get a pass in rap and what doesn't. Like y'all get upset over pedo shit a kind woman beaters (which is the right reaction) but your totally fine with rappers putting poison into your families and ruining whole neighbourhood, and somehow its actually more authentic if they really do it? š¤
āNever let a man piss on your leg, son. Either you die right there or pop that man in the head, son.ā
For real. Otherwise what will you teach your children?
Id teach my child that thereās nothing more valuable than your lifetime
I forget where I read this but isnāt this in reference to Drake going to a movie with his drunk friend and his friend just stands up all drunk and starts pissing on the seat he was sitting in only for it to splash back on Drake who was sitting next to him and then Drake storms out of the theatre all pissed off? Tuff
No. TI homeboy pissed on Drake's leg (allegedly) and Drake did nothing.
Yes thatās the one it was in a movie theatre no? If not then someone was spreading mad misinformation online and I fell for it
Jcole put 1 hand on Diddy...but Meek Mill put both hands on Diddy š¤·š¾āāļø
GLIZZY GOBBLER
U not understanding the joke is just disappointing
Did he not suck his dick? Wait wht
Grippy
Ignorance is bliss And innocence is ignorance before itās introduced to currency and clips My fav bar from that song
Give him some pucking respeck
The diddler tore Drakes shoulder up. Nigga had to have surgery.
He got butt surgery for his shoulder?
Stepping aside was a gentleman's move. I'm not a fan of his music, but I'm a fan of his integrity.
Yeah he probably just wanted a fair competition on bars not all that hate dissing that happened.
There is a rumour that he spoke to Kendrick after he released his diss & kendrick told him this wasnāt going to just be about trying to out rap each other. I think Cole was under the assumption this was just going to be a rap battle at first
I believe this 100%
Me too. I believe that was the real reason behind Cole deciding to apologise. I think he wouldāve joined in & attempted to out rap both of them but heās not the type of guy to get into it on a personal level. I really think people in both Kendrickās & Coleās camps were in communication & Kendricks plans made itās way back to Cole before they spoke
always found it weird that he followed that line with "now i know too much". He def knew some shit about diddy. kindda out of character for him to keep silent tho.
GUYS CMON yall know wht happens when u speak out. If yall were in that situation wht would u do??? Hmmm OK.
i don't know what i would've done but i know if i didn't do anything i would think im in the wrong
speaking up at the wrong time does no one any favours, and can get you killed. gotta be strategic to take down powerful, nefarious people.
All of the artist that have spoke out about him havenāt really said anything incriminating, that should show you how dangerous he is, theyāve been to his house and saw everything yet canāt say anything above surface level
I give him props for making his own choice. Hard to do when your fans call for war. Not to disrupt or compromise oneās own peace is a priority regardless of your craft or job. Fame is to risk becoming a pawn to masses if you fear losing their approval and lose yourself in the process.
Ya Real Talk People need to fix their tone talkin about J Cole ššæššæššæš„š„š„
Drake could never
Streets say Meek Mill got em beat
āJ Cole the only one who put hands on Diddyā No Diddy
He slapped diddy but now has to ride a bike for the rest of his life in fear diddy may blow his car up
You can still blow a bike up
You can probably tell if itās been tampered with though instead of starting a car or closing a door kaboom
Out of every rapper or entertainer j. Cole is the dude where I feel like me and him could genuinely be friends. No ego, no fake persona, he is just him.
a lot of rappers āputs handsā on Diddy apparently
J Cole is a king Forever
āā¦ā¦now I know too muchā šš
He lost sleep over a rap beef. I mean cmon.
...... fake the jab. What would u do in that situation oh great one I'm srry but wtf is ur name brudda
Dawg we are all on reddit discussing celebrities. Chill.
lol Iād rap back?
When did this happen?
Being humble, prioritising mental peace over beefs, not promoting albums are CHOICES. Otherwise we all know he can F anyone up with his verses. He can come up with his version of Control verse (like Kendrick). HE CHOOSES NOT TO COZ HE'S NOT STUPID.
Humble ass whooping (full diddy)
Itās grippy
slapped diddy for my grippy
Diddy aināt tough thoā¦..
Old video of 50 getting Diddy pissed because he kept reaching inside his jacket pockets.
50 did.
GRIPPY
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MIDDLE CHILD - āBut I'd never beef with a nigga for nothin', If I smoke a rapper, it's gon' be legit, It won't be for clout, it won't be for fame, It won't be 'cause my shit ain't sellin' the same, It won't be to sell you my latest lil' sneakers, It won't be 'cause some nigga slid in my lane, Everything grows, it's destined to changeā and I just feel like people donāt realize J Cole has nothing against Kendrick and respects him as an artist and he just did it all for the fans in a lapse of judgement
Source? I could only find one video on YouTube on Jcole and Diddy fighting, and the only thing I found was a play fight that made it seem like they were best friends. Where can I at least see an article about this?
Yeah I remember that story Apparently Diddy took offense to the King of New York line by Kendrick on Control and tried to pour a drink on him to humiliate him and Cole wasn't having that and defended him
Blah blah blah
is this the only topic keeping this sub alive? just take the L and move on from the beef entirely.
Why you calling him soft lol thatās my thing and how you know
Featuring 6 lack
I still lost most of my respect for Cole
cole has been on a lil bad streak recently but itās ok the fall off is coming š£ļø
Em actually took a J Cole style shot at Diddy on kill shot (he said diddy killed pac then took it back and apologized all in the same song).
Cole just needs a reboot. Someone unplug him and plug him back in
corny ass post made me delete this app
He still didnāt bring Diddyās behavior to the attention of the public or law enforcement
Please smack diddy more until I get my hands on him
Quit playing with my niggas
I am ever more attracted to this gorgeous mans
Drake stay talking gangsta mob connection talk but got peed on and slapped. and them guys aināt did nothing about it
It had been reported that the two got into a dual at the after-party of the MTV Video Music Awards. Rumor had it thatĀ Cole was dancing too close to Diddy's then-girlfriend and singer Cassie Ventura, leading to the two men getting into aĀ fight
Havenāt you MFās ever heard of a some rapper named 2pac lol he was dissing Diddy 30 years ago
Buffy
Pretty sure em did too
nobody diddles the diddler!
I read this in Dave Chappells voice
Grippy
This was when Kendrick dropped his control verse and Diddy had an issue with him saying heās the king of both cost and tried to press him in the club when he saw him and Cole was with Kendrick and was like wtf you got the physical advantage on my guy if you want to throw hands catch mine!
Styles threw a chair at Diddy if that counts lol
Love Cole. Heās a good person.
Soft and heās feeling it, even his fans are turning on him with his recent verse, you canāt just say āsaying my name in a verse will killā and then someone does it and he apologizesā¦
Jcole is one thing. The realest.
Actually from the sound of it alot of rappers put their hands on Diddy
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Then he bowed out of the big 3. Then he went n made āgrippyā. I canāt cape for em anymore dawg. The Lās are too stacked. He be disrespecting himself crazy at this point.
I think a lot of rappers put hands on Diddyā¦. Just not how youād think at first.
love cole but who tf listening to diddy album
And Cole been riding bikes ever since
JUSTICE CRASH
Ion think he was the only rapper to put hands on Diddy, I'm sure Meek has had his hands all over Diddy š¤£
The real villain here is Cash Cobain lol. Coleās verse is illegal, so many rappers have played on the same theme haha but his delivery (amidst current climate) is cringey. Itās so bad; I wonder if itāll get streams/plays just cause folks are roasting it
Ok grippy.
Grippy was just a bad song. I don't think Jcole is a bad artist, I feel like he ruined his image with the apology, I also stopped supporting him over that transphobic bar. All in all I think people are overreacting to the song.
You know the diddler liked it.
Nahh I remember hearing about it on the radio it was at some award show Cole called him out about killing Tupac and he 2 pieced em and Diddy fell and started grabbing him
J.Cole didn't slap Diddy he broke up an altercation lmao. And it is what it is. It's wack he waved the white flag and apologized, and as an MC, it discredits him. Kendrick told everyone, it's love behind the scenes but get on the mic, and he's tryna murder everyone. If you call yourself the best, the Muhammad Ali of Rap, and someone challenges you and you talk tough, then apologize because you're scared of the consequences, that's cowardice. Cole is still a great rapper, but he also happens to be a coward, and there's nothing wrong with that. I'm still gonna listen to his music.
Grippy
And btw it's time we hold rappers accountable. If the song sucks, people should tell the artist. Hopefully, that artist goes back to the booth and comes back with hotter shit.
i believe Meek mill also put his hands on diddy
I love Cole, but quite franklyā¦ dudes a bitch. All rappers genuinely are. Cole roasted someone then apologized and took the song down. Thatās gay asf š¤”
He put hands on diddy, shit prolly hit like grippy Before you make a face, no diddy
Did he grip Diddy by the neck?
"The only rapper that put hands on diddy". Phrasing
I heard he apologized for it right after!
"it's.. it's...it's.. grippy" -Jcole "I was gonna kill a couple rappers but they did it to themselves Everybody's suicidal they don't even need my help" -Kendrick Lamar
Grippy
Respect to J Cole then. But I mean, you kinda have to throw hands at a pedophile. Can't be associated with those predators.
He needs to stop commenting dumb ass shit on trans people like a sly shitbag in his songs before he ever gets recognition again. Ya ain't slick and it's hypocritical to his the "conscious" rap movement he's always supported. How a dude who pop off with crooked smile then revert so hard to tell people not to be themselves - or "confused". Apparently he's been confused about his own message for a long while.
Facts
Grippy
Lyrics are still as soft as cottonelle.
Mfs in this sub saying heās mid now after that single with Cobain like he didnāt have an insane verse on Red Leather